GM has unveiled the all-new 2023 Chevy Colorado, pulling the sheets on a fresh third generation complete with an updated model line, revised exterior styling, a completely overhauled interior, and a new powertrain.
Let’s start with the model line. The 2023 Chevy Colorado trim level lineup includes WT (Work Truck), LT, Z71, ZR2, and the first-ever Trail Boss, the latter of which was previously offered as a package upgrade for LT and Z71 trims. Outside, we find a refreshed exterior design, where the 2023 Chevy Colorado adopts a more technical, premium look compared to the previous generation. LED lighting is offered for Z71 and ZR2 trims, while wheel sizing ranges between 17 and 20 inches in diameter. There’s also a new built-in tailgate storage system, which is equipped as standard on ZR2, and offered as optional for the rest of the lineup.
Moving inside, the 2023 Chevy Colorado boasts an all-new interior, with four unique interior trims on offer. Standard spec includes an 11.3-inch diagonal color infotainment screen, as well as an 8-inch diagonal digital color instrument display. Both displays are customizable. Standout onboard tech includes the standard Chevy Safety Assist package, which rounds up features like Forward Collision Alert, Automatic Emergency Braking, Front Pedestrian Braking, Lane Keep Assist with Lane Departure Warning, Following Distance Indicator, and IntelliBeam automatic high-beam assist.
Motivation is sourced from the turbocharged 2.7L I4 L3B gasoline engine, offered as the lone powertrain option for the 2023 Chevy Colorado. Output varies depending on the trim level selected, with three distinct tunes available. Output from the “base” 2.7L Turbo, which will actually get its own RPO code, is measured at 237 horsepower and 259 pound-feet of torque (standard for WT and LT), while the 2.7L Turbo Plus is rated at 310 horsepower and 390 pound-feet of torque (standard for Z71 and Trail Boss, optional for WT and LT). Finally, the 2.7L Turbo High-Output tune is rated at 310 horsepower and 430 pound-feet of torque (standard for ZR2). Max trailering for the base tune is rated at 3,500 pounds, while max trailering for the other two tunes is 7,700 pounds. The second-generation GM 8-speed automatic transmission serves as the singular transmission option.
Production of the 2023 Chevy Colorado is slated to kick off on January 25th, 2023 at the GM Wentzville plant in Missouri. Official pricing details will follow closer to the start of production.
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I was excited. I read 8 speed.
🙁
2nd Generation 8-Speed. Quite a few improvements and changes.
According to a line of literature or do you have any real information? It was new / improved / fixed for 2019 silverado’s too. That didn’t work out so well.
Everyone complaining about this truck should consider the fact that this segment is way more competitive than the full size segment and moves around a lot more. You still have four new trucks in this segment this year and one new one next year and one new one from last year. So go out and text drive all of them and buy what fits you best. You don’t have to buy a Colorado, a new Canyon, new Ranger and Tacoma debut this year. The Frontier was updated just last year, the Gladiator gets an update next year.
Will there be an AEV Bison model? Maybe not just on the ZR2 but also on the Trail Boss too?
That would actually be very interesting- lose the DSSV and front locker, still get 35s for a lot less.
All I can say is wow wow holyyyyyyyy heck wowwww!!! I’ve ripped GM for leaving the Gm Small trucks for looking feminine and allowing the Tacoma to be the only small truck that both men and women want because of its strong aggressive looks. I said over and over on many social media sites GM TRUCK DESIGN NEEDS TO LOOK STRONG, AGRESSIVE, HAVE HOOD SCOOPS, ROLL BARS, LIGHT BARS , STUNNING INTERIORS ETC. WELL GM YOU LISTENED AND HIT A HOME RUN!!! BRAVO AND I MAY BUY TWO ZR2 BOSS VARIATIONS FOR MY DAUGHTERS. THESE TRUCKS ARE WAYYYYY BETTER THAN TACOMA FINALLY
Dude, if ur just buying Colorados like that….can you grab 1 for me too? 😆
This is quite an upgrade inside, outside and under the hood
Winner winner-chicken dinner!!! Finally, a muscular aggressive design that looks better than the market-beating Tacoma (which is a good looking design).
Chevrolet will for sure narrow the market gap with Toyota. Reliability and reputation, which Toyota reigns supreme, will be the next step for Chevy to earn the market overall.
I honestly believe the key to Toyota losing Tacoma market share is for everyone in this segment to start taking it seriously. The Tacoma has a reputation for never leaving the market to begin with, plus a reputation for reliability. The Gladiator has the offroad chops to take on the Tacoma, but is too much of a niche model. The Ranger is bland in current form. The Frontier just got updated to match the Tacoma as the Tacoma is about to jump into the future. I think this new Colorado especially in trailboss form will be the one to sway current gen Tacoma owners the most though, because I believe the next gen Tacoma is gonna be ugly. Think smaller Tundra.
A little salt in the wound:
Ranger, 10 speed auto
Frontier, 9 speed auto
Colorado/Canyon, 8 speed auto
Gladiator, 6 speed manual or 8 speed auto
Tacoma, 6 speed manual or 6 speed auto (soon to be 6 speed manual or 10 speed auto)
A little more salt in the wound:
Tacoma, 4.0 V6 or 2.7 I4 (soon to be 2.5T I4, maybe more than one tune just like Tundra)
Frontier, 3.8 V6
Gladiator, 3.6 V6 or 3.0TD V6
Colorado/Canyon, 2.7T I4 (three tunes)
Ranger, 2.3T I4 (soon to be 2.3, 2.7, 3.0 just like Bronco? See European 2022 model.)
GM was smart using the three tunes knowing the upcoming Ranger would have various engine options. The 3.0 Ranger Raptor is more than likely coming to the U.S.
The 23 taco uses a four banger or optional 3.5 V6 that barely makes more power than GMs base 2.7. And taco only comes with a 6A. Better at least than the 5A in the 4Runner, but this is 2022, not 2002. Toyota is again phoning it in. Interested in 2023 sales numbers, as taco will be least modern of any mid size….
Does the 2.7L turbo plus and high output require premium fuel? I have never owned a vehicle with a turbo.
No they do not.
I don’t understand. Are you rating these engines in order of displacement?
I’d EASILY take the 2.7 with the 390 or 430tq tune option over any of those others. (well…at least over any other truck listed that’s in production. The Ford 2.7 and 3.0 options will be very sweet).
Because displacement of the motor doesnt really matter, the performance does. And this engine is better than most, if not all of those.
How do you get a downvote from stating facts? Idc though, just wondering. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
Because displacement of the motor doesnt really matter, the performance does. And this engine is better than most, if not all of those.
Anyone notice the word COLORADO on the front doors? It’s kind of a weird place to that badge in my opinion. It would definitely look better on the front quarter panels or something if it has to be there at all. When you roll the windows down your gonna be fiddling with it, because your hands will be right there lol.
If anyone at GM can enlighten us on what has changed in the “2nd generation 8 speed” that would be very helpful. Right now it is a deal killer for me. Please change my mind!
I guess my thing is, why not put the 10 speed from the get-go?
GM’s thing. Be sure we’ll get the 10spd in the 2nd or 3rd MY.
When the Silverado gets the 10 speed behind the 2.7, the Colorado will as well. When the 2.7 gets the 10 speed, the 5.3 will go bye bye. If the 5.3 and 2.7 both have a 10 speed, but the 2.7 is lighter with more torque and similar hp, why would they keep the 5.3 around? The 2.7 will probably get better fuel economy with the 10 speed as well. Why have 8 cylinders bounce around on cylinder count with dfm, when you can have a 4 cylinder just go from 4 to 2 cylinders? Talk about less parts and reliability.
The only thing that could keep people from talking sh!t about the 2.7T I4, was the 8 speed roflmao. I have to ask though, do any of you current Colorado/Canyon owners have issues with your 1st gen 8 speed right now? I have to ask any guys who own a Silverado/Sierra with 2.7T I4, do you have any problem with your 8 speeds, or the 2.7T I4 for that matter?
No issues in my 2018 ZR2 V6 8 speed. It was fixed after the transmission flush TB.
Nice upgrades. Looks great but no long bed option = deal killer. Bad decision not to offer CCLB!
Not a fan of the round vents though.
Agreed. Long bed has been essential to my work. Don’t want the added dimensions of a full size truck to work in tight urban areas areas and a desire for good mileage, but need a longer bed for work. Will certainly defer any plans on changing out my ’17 Colorado CCLB.
You’re missing the fact that the 5.3 is extremely reliable and gets good mileage. The 2.7 doesn’t have the reputation and the mileage is the same. I’d rather have this truck with a 5.3, but the 2.7 offers the same performance after the torque upgrade.
That’s why I said after the 2.7 gets the 10 speed. I believe the 2.7 with the 10 speed could edge the 5.3 out on mpg, but not with the 8 speed.
Their is a big hole in your argument. So far any engine that has received the 10 speed that previously used the 8 speed has seen a mileage drop at GM. One example- 2019/2020 Silverado 4X4 with the 5.3 V8 and 8 speed were rated 16/22. The same truck for 2021 with the 5.3 and 10 speed dropped to 15/20 and drops yet again to 15/19 for 2022. The 6.2 saw similar drops going from the previous generation Silverado using the 8 speed to the current using the 10.
Hitch up a 6000 pound camper and pull it up and down i70 and tell me how big your gas bill is
I like the body changes and powerplant tune options. I don’t see fog lights and they don’t mention the type of headlights nor the blinker types or the final drives that come with the 430ftlbs. 8spd 10spd who cares, its not a 4spd auto.
I’m sure the other brands would sell you an 8spd or 10spd and “tell” you theirs are best in class… lol… those who fall for marketing lol…
Improvment for sure but that’s expected. It will be tested against the other brands. Listen to truck rags and not granny rags like CR and other rags that appeal to grocery getters…
As for gas mileage, 430ftlbs, this is not a place to cry about gas mileage but to celebrate. Want good gas mileage and weak ftlbs, by a new Hyundai truck and others in this class.
I’ve owned 3 gm trucks and have been pissed on gm’s fake attempt in this class. I had an 87 4 bang 4sps manual, 94 GMC Sonoma Highrider 4.3, and now a 09 Colorado v8 5.3 4×4. I tried to like current gen Colorado but couldn’t…excluding ZR2. This model could change my mind since gm has many big truck features with this gen and getting serious.
I had a 16 Malibu with 1st gen 4 bang with the turbo with 257hp 295ftlbs and was very impressed with the immediate response and power. Can’t imagine the Buick and Cadillac 272hp 295ftlbs. Gotta say, the Euro 2.0 turbos took note as they saw tail lights, actually it didn’t matter what 2.0 turbo.
Never had any issues.
The v8 will last longer though because there will be no turbo fade. The 2.7 is half the size of the 5.3 anyway. I’d say a 2.7 powered traverse or xt6 would be more likely
Some accountant said they could save $10 per truck with the outdated and unreliable 8 speed. Hopefully it really is a second generation, but the old 8 speed has a terrible reputation.
it’s the 2nd Generation 8-Speed. Not the same as the current 8-speed.
You know nothing about it so don’t don’t act like you do.
The 8 speed reputation alone is worth spending the $10 or whatever to put in the 10 speed. Like Ford.
TALK ABOUT KNOW NOTHING.
GM stated this is a second gen and new 8 speed. That is clear in the GM material.
It would be wise to wait to drive it and just see what it is before we get all worked up over it.
It is not like Ford had no issues with their version of this 10 speed GM shares with them.
Lets let them tell the story and just see why they stuck to 8 speeds. More is not always better.
Read = comprehend
All we know is it’s a “new 2nd generation”. THAT’S ALL WE KNOW. To label it as good and fixed now is completely false and inaccurate. The 8 speed has a reputation. A reputation of being trash through multiple revisions.
Have we heard the 8 speed was fixed before?
YUP.
And to label it as crap and think it will be the same as before is FLASE and INACCURATE.
Trashed through multiple revisions? What revisions? There were different models, two to be exact.
You have heard it was fixed, and as noted in another response to you it was in MOST cases with the fluid change. The others usually a torque converter would fix it and the final small percentage needed a transmission replacement.
GM is sure aware of what was going on with the first generation and leaves little double they wouldn’t have addressed any issues in the second generation. Those that didn’t have problems or had it fixed with the current gen are quite happy with it and reviews well for the most part.
My man, the 8 speed came out on 2016 in the 1/2 tons. The 2019 was new and improved and was supposed to fix those issues. Then the fluid change was supposed to fix it (and only improved it, still has issues). This is at least the 4th iteration.
As of so far all we have to go by is it’s still not good. To believe it’s now finally a good transmission soley on the bases it has a “2nd generation” tag shows you lack the common sense you seem to think you have.
So the question is, is the 2nd gen 8 speed an updated 1st gen 8 speed, or a 10 speed minus 2 gears? Just wondering if the 2nd gen 8 speed shares any parts with the 10 speed.
You don’t need a ten speed transmission. At some point enough is enough for most driving. What benefit is the 2 top gears going to give you in real world driving other than more hunting.
I doubt it has anything to do with how many gears and more of the terrible reputation all of their 8 speed RWD based units have. The 10 speed is much better received and thus should have been used.
The issue isn’t the quantity of gears. The issue is the 8 speed is a bad transmission with a bad reputation. Even the silverado only gets it on base trucks, further proving it’s inferior.
It isn’t a bad transmission, it had bad transmission fluid. Those that don’t have the shutter for the most part are happy with it. The more gears is giving all manufacturers some issues with gear choice while driving. Most people have no idea about the 8speed, they aren’t car guys buying these most the times and in most cases a fluid fix cured about 80% of those that had issues. The others went too long and had to have a torque converter and the final small percentage actually needed a transmission replacement. But still overall the percentage of vehicles that had this happen to weren’t huge, maybe 5-10%. So maybe stop making a mountain out of a mole hill. I am sure GM was well aware (hence the fixes) with what was going on with their 8speeds and addressed it in this second generation.
I personally would prefer 8 speed over 10, there are a greater number of chances to not have it properly read that right situation and have a hesitation or a wrong gear scenario with more gears, so more isn’t always better.
The 10 speed works great behind the 3.0 diesel. It keeps the rpms in that ultra low torque band for maximum power and efficiency. 10th gear is a super high overdrive for highway cruising at low rpms.
Weight/cost/optimization. The 10 speed and 8 speed are 90% the same to begin with with the main difference is twofold, the 10’s triple clutch drum and the variable fluid system. So besides the faster warm up and 2 additional sets of overdrives, there’s no advantage to the 10. The 10 was designed to be perfectly optimized for a half ton as well, and the next size down 10 speed is the 10l45 for caddies. There’s no Colorado sized 10 speed, the 10l90 is too heavy and has excessive bearing friction, the 10l45 would have its guts pulled out…. Optimization… GM should have made a 10l65 for this truck, but doesn’t have the budget for it. They settled for the slightly cheaper lighter 8l90.
I’m not a transmission tech but I do know GM developed the 8 speed completely independent of the 10 speed which was primarily developed by Ford. I’d assume they share almost no parts. The 10 speed is not a improved or modified 8 speed.
Ironically Ford has issues with the 10, but GM doesn’t. There are minor differences between the two.
Not sure, but there are articles that state GM engineers said that the 10 speed provided no benefit over the 8 speed, so there you have it.
IIRC, both the 8 and 10 spd have roughly the same 1st and top ratio. The 10spd basically has an extra gear between 2 respective gear steps. Connected to a a gasoline turbo with tons of torque band, I wouldn’t expect it to matter at all. Once the ‘22 Silverado rolled out with the 8spd, there was no way that GM would allocate production of their top tier trans and pay for integration for the 2.7/10L90 for just the 120k units of Colorado/ Canyon. The 2.7 Silverado I drove ran just fine, with nice, direct shifts.
NICE! I like it!
Very rigged looking. The interior is miles ahead of the previous gen.
“Rigged” as in jerry rigged?
Rigged as in rugged.
Rigged, as in rig-ed. Lol
Love all the plastic used on the exterior
I assume whoever was in charge of design was fired and someone competent has been hired.
The last few GM’s (really just this year) have been amazing. They have been so lackluster for over a decade.
We left the Welburn Era, and are now in the Simcoe Era. The GM design VP is the most valuable industrial design job in the world. Its a true Reign.
Simcoe is the first non native American to hold the position.
I had heard that Ed was out years ago and was glad to hear it. All I know is he was in charge and the designs ranged from crap to ok. Some were nice but very few.
Must why GM Design has improved, got rid of those non native American (indigenous people) stylists.
Not sure GM went far enough in the exterior design to make it look new and Modern but man that Interior seems to be light years ahead of the current Colorado. I will withhold final judgement until i see the materials in person. Design wise it is Best in class depending what Toyota does with its new Taco.
Agreed. Exterior looks like a slight refresh via plastic trim changes. Exterior already looks good on current trucks but you’d think they’d be more agressive to help it age better. Interior is great as is the case with most new GM products.
Ford uses the ten speed in just about every vehicle they sell. People were hoping the 10 speed would be part of this long delay truck. I’d like to know the reasoning for not going with the best transmission in gm’s fleet (10 speed). Was this done to save $. Shame, poor choice.
i’m not sure why everyone is hungry for more gears, it makes for a crap driving experience. transmissions these days shift way to much, they don’t like to lug and just annoy the crap outta me. give me a good old 6speed and i’m happy
Not everyone likes the sensation of gears changing. Most people would prefer smoother shifts, which is an advantage of more gears.
it isn’t the same old 8-speed either. It’s a new animal.
I think their “new” 8 speed means taking the 8l90 from the silvy, instead of the 8l45 in the current truck as the turbo would strip its guts.
The 8 is a great transmission now that the fluid problems are resolved still shifts faster and smoother than a Porsche DCT.
It does not shift faster than a Porsche DCT. GM found that one of the gear changes under certain circumstances was faster. Down shifts and all other upshifts are faster in the DCT.
GM misleading marketing.
Awesome except the 8spd. Cmon GM.
The Silverado EV should be a bigger version of this truck.
Why no Day? Not everyone is a fan of boost.
Why no Night? Not everyone is a fan of naturally aspirated? Wait, WTF are we saying here?!
they need to release more info on body configurations, give me a long box crew cab and payload numbers
Everyone else is reporting this is the only configuration. Short bed Crew cab. It’s a beautiful truck, but I really was looking for a standard bed. My 16 Sierra was soldier on for a while longer.
I am in the same boat as you. My 2014 Silverado is about to hit 100k. Was wanting to replace it with a CCLB Canyon or Colorado as our Canyon CCLB is fantastic. But since this won’t happen it will either A) push me to the competition (Ranger CCLB’s have been seen around) and B) push me to a full size which I am reluctant to do. We will see in a few years, but I much prefer driving the midsize truck.
Unless Ford had the next generation in a CCLB, the current generation isn’t offered in one. The Ranger started the trend to not be offered in a CCLB and why I’ve never liked it, plus it looks like an escape.
GM really dropped the ball here, offering something and then taking it away from those that need the bridge between and expensive half ton and the cheaper full length, versatile midsize.
I’m actually incredibly disappointed in GM they just sh!t on a more then profitable group of customers
They might release more versions later on. But to say the version you like is is more profitable is just dead wrong. They even explain in the video that this layout was the one most people wanted.
Long bed please, on roll out. Waited long enough for this configuration. Truck looks good. Like to know the epa numbers for 3 different tunes!
That front end is a godawful mess. What is their obsession with making the Colorado facia look like a car. There’s still hope for the Canyon but this is a total fail. Also – all we’ve heard for the last year is the 2.7 was going to be the new sole option, this was really exciting, even in the pre refresh full size it had serious power/torque. So what a major disappointment that they detuned the hell out of the base engine, which in the *work truck* of all places it limits you to 3500 towing. How much are they going to upcharge so the wt can actually be used to, you know, work with. The greed is disgusting.
Most midsize work trucks are used as parts runners, not towing vehicles. Most people towing with a midsize are towing personal boats or small campers, and are more likely to get an LT or higher.
The LT gets the base engine as well. I could see having the two top tunes, but why that bottom tune? The 2.0T I4 makes this much and I even wonder if the 2.7T I4 could make the 237 hp without the Turbo…
my guess is the detuned model is optimized for MPG’s. The mid-grade is optional on the lower models, and the top grade isn’t a huge difference, more of a token upgrade for the ZR2. However, these combinations seem more complicated and expensive (production and inventory) than just offering the same in all.
It’s a defense only engine strategy. Low trim is price point, and the segment meat is regular 4×4 high trims. A vr6 should be dirt cheap in cost, defending low, and a hybrid variant of a vr6 with good mpg attacks the meat of the segment. Then have a plus HP top engine, covers all bases. Make a deal with VW if need be. GM’s previous misses and now dogma against hybrids doesn’t help.
You suggesting having 3 engines would…reduce costs? nah..
Suggested taking a cut at giving the ginger-breaded-up trucks broader appeal. Yes a spend on hybrids, with a play to build in margin, by trading turbo/forged/cgi for cheap cast iron. Would go in crossovers too. High Hp option is shared with full-size.
It’s the same engine block/size why not offer all tunes in all trims?
I agree it only makes sense that the WORK truck have max power optional for actual WORK!
Most midsize work trucks are used as parts runners, not for towing, so if the lower powered engine is tuned for fuel economy (as several have speculated here), it’ll be tuned appropriately for its usage.
The top engine tune can apparently be added in to any truck with the right options checked.
“Base WT (Work Trucks) and LT models will have 237 hp and 259 lb-ft of torque. A Plus version of this same engine with 310 hp and 390 lb-ft of torque will be standard in Z71 and Trail Boss models while available in the WT and LT trims. The enthusiast-oriented off-road ZR2 model returns and has 310 hp and 430 lb-ft of torque from a high-output version of the turbo-4, which will be available as an option on all trims with a confusing caveat: WT and LT buyers will have to option up to the Turbo Plus and then from there the High-Output engine when ordering their trucks.”
This from some online article. Sorry I can’t remember which. I copied the above from another forum it was posted in.
That is a good looking truck.
The front end/grill is over done.
Good looking truck.
Concerned about the 8-spd, but will give them the benefit of the doubt for now since it’s a “second generation”.
I think the V-6 should have been available, but the numbers from the 4 are really good. Hopefully it’s smooth & quiet.
My last gripe has been long standing. No RCSB, no ZQ8, no manual trans.
Get a Tacoma, or get a Gladiator…or just to continue to live in denial because you have to have gm build what you want and they refuse to do it.
Why would they only offer one body configuration? GM is becoming more annoying by the minute with their discontinuations.
The 8 speed, redesigned or not, is yet another cost cutting move and shameful considering Ford has a 10 speed across the board on its Ranger. And how in god’s name did they manage to detune the 2.7 down to the already detuned 2.0T LSY numbers as reported on certain Cadillac models for WT and LT? I can understand making it under 310 HP for lower trims but a loss of 73 HP and 131 torque from the higher output 2.7 is a huge loss and well under Ford’s 2.3 Ecoboost and will be another money grab option that GM will count on most buyers wanting. That base weak sauce engine had better be putting down some good MPG numbers or it will be a fail!
Also hope there are some better looking wheels than what is shown and they expand the lack of both interior and exterior color options.
They will offer the 310/390 version as an upgrade. As a fleet owner, having a truck that will last longer and not be hot rodded around is a good idea.
Im just wins if they even need the turbo on the engine to make 237 hp…
not any different than years ago when they charged you a grand more to move up from the 4.8 to the 5.3, or before that from the 5.0 to the 5.7. All those years, dealers rarely stocked the smaller motor, and I can’t see any cost difference to produce – the only thing I see is that it’s a stepping stone to move up the price. The only way I can see an exception to this is that if the detuned engine gets crazy good MPG’s, that may be GM’s motivation to complicate orders and inventory with a detuned engine that costs the same to build.
Quit thinking the 8 speed is crap. Its 2nd gen and a 8 speed is plenty of gears. I have 2019 Terrain with 9 speed and it really only needs 8. With the 8 Speed it can be tuned for more power down in lower gears and good economy at the top.
The 9 speed has been a good tranny. The 8 speed has not. GM has claimed to have “fixed” the 8 speed a few times.
Early on the 9 speeds had issues in 18 and 19 models. It is fixed today.
It is a transaxle anyways.
I gave a 19 traverse. The 9 speed almost shook itself apart. Dealership did a flush, 15K latter same thing. Frustrated , I Swapped in valvoline full synthetic ATF on my own, no issues ever again 50k miles later.
All transmissions that used that mobile advanced crap were subject to hard shifts up to even failure. If the 10 speed had it it would have been no exception!
GM never needed to fix anything on the 8. It was all fluid, not a design problem. There were without a doubt some transmissions that were already destroyed beyond return from the fluid and required a rebuild, but most were good with a simple flush.
This right here. Most that had any issues were fixed with fluid, most of the remaining were addressed with a torque converter. Those that had no issues or had the flush have been happy with it and it was pretty well reviewed in tests. It isn’t a bad tranny by any means and I am in the boat that the more gears isn’t always better.
It’s like they’re competing with Toyota to see just how much exterior styling can be crammed onto one truck. Damn, those are some busy surfaces and graphics.
The majority of buyers in this segment want MORE of that…
GM is giving them what they want… I prefer the full-size look but I understand why this looks the way it does…
Dad cab only, with a 2 foot bed. Mine as well just get it over with and eliminate the practically useless box and call it an SUV. That’s what it is actually.
The trailblazer in the rest of the world is an suv version of this.
No it’s not
Yes it is. Australia has had it for years…are you dumb? Google Holden Trailblazer.
Hey Alex Luft,
Will this gm export this truck around the world? Australia/New Zealand etc?
Still uses an old-fashioned mechanical shifter
Good!
Here is the deal. This truck is not like a full size that sells in millions. It is around 380K units a year and the profits on mid size trucks are not big.
To build a mid size truck is about the same as it is to build a full size and you can’t charge the full size price. Think about that.
So they have only so much money to put in to a model and you have to decide to where to spend it. Las time they did it on multiple engines and body styles. So every one got upset when they had to cut corners on the interior and features.
So they took the body style that sells the best and spent the money on the interior and other things they had cut corners on.
I am sure the rationalization is that if you has a extra cab you would go crew or full size. If you had a long bed for just a little more they will go full size. They can make more customers happy with a crew with a better interior than two slower selling body styles and everyone gets a crappy interior.
If it were money was no object they would offer you all sorts of things but reality is they only have so much to spend and price this truck and they are going to cater to the majority.
Ford is going to a long bed but if you look at the Ford truck it cuts many corners that GM truck already covered like folding back seat , 4 piston Calipers and more.
I looked at a Ranger stickered at the same price a my GMC and it was lacking many things I had it failed to offer at $45K including leather seats.
“I looked at a Ranger stickered at the same price a my GMC and it was lacking many things I had it failed to offer at $45K including leather seats.”
You can get a Ranger Lariat for $45k with leather interior standard.
Ranger Lariat SuperCrew 4×2 starts at $36,030 MSRP. If you opt for 4×4, it jumps the price up another $3,000. Still well under $45K. A 501A Tremor is around $47-$48,000 MSRP and is the highest-priced Ranger you can get at the moment.
On the other side of things, a ’22 Canyon in AT4-Leather trim starts at $41,995 with the LGZ, and $47,995 with the LWN (if you can find one). A loaded gasser comes to about $49-$50,000 and still has a traditional keyed ignition, no LED lighting, no cooled seats, and no adaptive cruise (which are all things a 501A Lariat Ranger DOES have).
A Denali will get you cooled seats, but still no LED headlights (Yes, it does have an LED signature/DRL, but the high and low beams are still halogen), no adaptive cruise, and no push-button start or proximity entry. Add to that, a Denali starts at $43,000 for a two-wheel drive and $46,995 for a four-wheel drive gas engine.
The segment has a low price ceiling, and you’re arguing against variation. How is a Denali let alone a GMC justified? Especially if it comes at the cost of doing standard bed variants or an SUV?
Bubbly headlights sort of remind me of a Tacoma, but wow…. this is much better than the current one.
I actually think it looks better than the Silverado.
The ZR2 with that 2.7L will fly.
Good now make a real Blazer off of this
Beautiful inside and out, especially the interior. GM is known for tacky and plasticky interiors, and this one is absolutely beautiful and tasteful.
Ford, Nissan and Toyota will still sell you an extended cab truck. gm? They feed everyone a load of BS that……”well we have a much higher inventory turn on the crew cabs, everyone wants a crew cab, etc….” In reality it’s just about the money and profit. gm could care less what the customer wants. Not “everyone” wants a crew cab!!!
Not everyone wants a crossover either, but if enough people do, then it’s not worth building anything else.
If the customer ain’t buying (or worse yet, buys from a competitor) because the OEM doesn’t offer what they want, the profitability goes out the window. I tend to believe GM when they say the Crew Cabs are the best-selling offering. While Toyota and Ford do offer an extended cab, look at the inventory mix next time you’re on their website or driving past the dealership’s front line. Most Rangers and Tacomas are crew cabs, it’s what sells.
A High Country version would have been nice.
I do like the interior. Exterior is mostly good, not a fan of the high-up location of the Colorado badge, but that could be fixed with a heat gun and some fishing line.
Mixed feelings
I looks more like the Silverado
C8.r the frame is basically the same so to put the standard bed on the truck really isn’t adding a $ for gm. I understand some features might add to the bottom dollar but it’s a truck not an suv, it needs a standard bed. Who ever thought of a truck with a 5 ft bed shouldn’t be involved with building trucks. It’s a Subaru brat
Nice to see it comes with the 2.7 4 popper. This truck is going to fly. Hopefully the TB will come in at a decent price point.
Because very few people bought them. People are buying them for their families, and the regular cab won’t do it.
What are the divots in the wheel flares for?
I’d like to know how the Trailboss and ZR2 achieve their wider stance. I see they have bigger fender flares, but what about the track? It’s not like GM to add that much track to just a set of wheels, so is it a wider axle in the back and different control arms and axles up front?
The stance of the Trailboss is perfect. The ZR2, in my opinion, sits a little high. But I like the options/interior of the Z71. Maybe the zr2 without the bars and beadlock wheels would look better.
So from what I can tell the models are Boss, Hoss, Boss Hogg, Hog Boss, Boss Boss, No Boss, Trail Boss, Road Boss, Air Boss, Line Boss…….am I missing one Boss?
Do all models have two speed or 2 speed with Autotrac transfer cases ?
Yes, It is a Beautiful looking redesign.
Are there a few disappointments as far as I am concerned. Of course.
But, Love that there will be a sunroof, body style is great. Looking forward to the 2.7L Turbo. Should get the power of the V6 but better fuel economy.
Sad no Extended Cab with Long Bed
What is the height at the roof for the zr2 ?