We have to give General Motors a pass right now since the next-generation 2019 Chevrolet Silverado and 2019 GMC Sierra will hopefully catch up. But, right now, Ford is on top with its F-Series Super Duty, reported Ford Authority.
Ford stole away Ram’s power and towing capacity crowns with an update to the truck’s 6.7-liter Power Stroke V8 diesel engine. The engine now makes an extra 10 horsepower and 10 pound-feet of torque for a total of 450 hp and 935 lb-ft. Recall, the Ram 3500 makes 930 lb-ft, which was on top of the segment since this past August.
And that leaves Chevrolet and GMC in a distant third. Despite the updated 6.6-liter Duramax L5P diesel V8 engine, it still makes just 910 lb-ft of torque and can pull 22,000 pounds with a fifth-wheel trailer. Ford’s updated Super Duty will pull 34,000 pounds with an identical setup, thanks to the new F-450 4×2 dual-rear-wheel Super Duty. Ram’s 3500 will tow 30,000 pounds.
GM certainly has something brewing. It announced new 4500 and 5500 pickups will soon join the Silverado lineup. GM is co-developing the trucks with Navistar.
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who in their right mind will compare a f450 to a 3500? that is like pitting a mustang GT against a camaro RS. How does the Silverado 3500 do against the f350? that is what really matters. Torque figures aren’t a concern as Gm has leaned on the world beating Allison transmission, which transmits the more torque to the wheels than ford or ram does. Chevy is still the quicker and smoother puller, and the soon to be realeased 4500 will put the f450 to shame
I think they compare the F450 to the GM 3500 because the F450 is basically the same truck as a F350 for body, step in height, design and look whereas the GM 4500 and 5500 coming look to be more like the old Kodiaks, etc where you have to step up a couple steps to get in. A lot of people who pull stock trailers, etc don’t want to climb up into a truck when they can just step into one like you can on the F450 (no different getting in and out than a F350 or a GM HD truck).
who in their right mind will compare a f450 to a (GM) 3500? Sean Szymkowski
Hold up…….. will we get a new Silverado/SierraHD at the same time as the 1500? In the past the HD trucks usually came a year or 2 later.
Being one, two or three is meaningless as you only use the torque and HP needed to pull your trailer, which, in almost all cases, is much less than rated.
Now…….If you drag race someone pulling the exact same trailer, it might make a difference in who wins.
More important is efficiency and reliability.
I own an F250 gas motor, 6.2L as I have, and continue to, hear poor reports on Ford’s diesel.
This one upmanship by five or ten ft/lbs is silly. Ford does it every time they are matched or exceeded in hp or torque. Neanderthals preoccupied with comparing wiener sizes.
Could you tell Drew that one? He’s terribly preoccupied with the wheelbase size of Cadillacs to the point that it seems excessively anal that anyone outside of the automotive engineering world would even care about it.
Compounding this, he thinks the wheelbase size has a larger narrative tied into ‘America vs. the world’.
The Duramax 6.6 block is nowadays made at Halberg Guss in Germany. That foundry has a good capacity for making compacted graphite iron , same as you may find in the Ford PS 6,7 l. Why not a change to CGI giving a strong platform for an upgrade for the engine? With CGI instead of old fashined grey iron the Duramx can stand more hp and torque.