The 4.5-liter LMK Duramax V8 engine was so close, yet so far, from being a reality. As the housing bubble burst, and the economy took a hard nosedive in 2009, General Motors was putting the finishing touches to the “baby Duramax.”
Unfortunately, in 2009, GM released an official statement scrapping the project entirely as it filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy and consolidated brands and closed dealerships. Now, seven years later, Truck Trend has brought the zombie Duramax back as a talking point. Is there any chance it could return?
The 4.5-liter Duramax V8 was to serve as an additional engine option in the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra 1500, producing 310 hp and 520 lb-ft of torque. Those are healthy numbers for a half-ton pickup truck, and it sounds lovely. However, it’s unlikely we’ll see this engine ever surface from the graveyard.
Even with GM gracing the U.S. market with the 2.8-liter four-cylinder turbo diesel, diesels aren’t a hot commodity, especially following Volkswagen’s doing, making diesel a dirty word. There likely isn’t much of a market for the engine in a half-ton pickup.
Unless, maybe there is. Talk to us down below. Would you consider a baby Duramax diesel over a regular gasoline V8?
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In a heartbeat…..
Diesel the way to go! Power and efficiency. I currently drive a 2015 2500 Sierra with Duramax and would have gotten a 1500 had it been an option. Canyon and Colorado Diesels are nice but to expensive for small trucks and actually not that smaller when seeing them next to other sizes.
“Canyon and Colorado Diesels are nice but to expensive for small trucks and actually not that smaller when seeing them next to other sizes.”
I see two contradicting statements here. They’re too expensive for their small size but actually they’re not small.
Other than that I agree that it would be nice to have a diesel option on Silverado and Sierra half tons
I would buy a Tahoe, suburban or Yukon in a “Heartbeat” if it offered Duramax option!! This 5.3L is a joke in terms of power and mileage…especially if you got a full house traveling! Come on GM let’s see a Duramax Tahoe on the road!!
Pretty soon to come diesel Chevy equinox! Would love to see the bigger SUVs with a diesel option.
I would love to see the 4.5 diesel in a half ton. I haul my travel and snow machine trailers which is pushing my 5.3l gas engine to it’s limit. Dodge has introduced it’s 3.0l diesel and Ford will be introducing their 3.0l diesel shortly and I my opinion their are really missing the mark. Their options will compete with the V8 gas engine but not offer much more in torque. Now a 4.5l diesel would make a huge difference when I pull my holiday of snow machine trailers through the mountains. Lots of towing power is what I am looking for without buying the 2500HD.
Maybe we will see it in the revamped 2019 aluminum Silverado/Sierra 🙂 Years ago when the 4.5L was being developed, my dad worked for a GM supplier and he saw the 4.5L running around in a couple Suburbans here in Michigan… That’s a nice thought too!
Worked for a Tier-1 in Auburn Hills, on the 4.5L among others. Would have bought one in a heartbeat then (owned a “infamous” 6.5L Detroit Turbo) and would now.
Should probably look at how the Ram 1500 Diesel is selling? Being a GM sales consultant in a small town where Dodge is our main competitor.
It would blow the snot out of the dodge way more power and torque and wouldnt have to buy euro oil all the time
Build it it will sell
Put it in the new Canyon/Colorado….alternative for towing with plenty of power, yet still economical for everyday driving.
I want a 5-cylinder Diesel in the Colorado.
Will it sell? Ask ram! Should have been built 3 years ago.. Ford already working on one too…
Yes I certainly would buy a diesel in a light duty GM. Had one in 1996. Loved it although it was the poor old 6.5.
The 4.5 Duramax would be a wonderful engine for the Express/Savana vans and cutaway chassis. The cutaway needs this engine for the ambulance, bus, and RV markets. The 2.8L is just not enough for the cutaway chassis to do any serious work.
Charley Anton
45 year Chevrolet sales veteran
I wonder how a 2.8L diesel hybrid would do, and how the costs would compare?
From the powertrain dynamics, diesel and electric share a lot of the same characteristics, so I wonder if together they accentuate each other or if combining them increases the shortfalls, ie they both already have good torque on the low end, but low horsepower on the high end.
I agree with Charley Anton the 4.5 would have been a better option for the vans.we currently have a couple of full sized vans with the 6.6 duramax,and it is to much engine for what people do with vans,and then it’s the front weight issue where you have power steering pumps give up.
The 4.5 would have been the envy of the industry!
Fuel mileage is a big issue; but with CAFE requirements of 54.5 miles per gallon becoming the law in 2025 unless Congress repeals the law, one has to wonder whether there’s room for any type of vehicle that isn’t electric and another question is when will the US government take steps to upgrade the US power grid to support the tens of millions of electric vehicles it wants on the roads of the country.
The Duramax 4.5L V8 would be great as an option in the Cadillac’s CTS, CT6 besides the XT5 and Escalade as it’s got power and torque besides excellent mileage numbers.
Cadillac will have its own diesel engines won’t be “sharing” them with the other GM Brands
With the Express and Savana van twins getting the 2.8 Duramax as a replacement for the LGH 6.6, I suspect that the 2.8 will make it into the Silverado/Sierra as opposed to the LMK. I was so looking forward to the 4.5 as it was a clean sheet design with some cutting edge tech (reverse flow heads, intake outboard/exhaust dumps directly into the turbocharger), the profile being smaller than a 5.3 (remember the test fit into a second gen CTS?). To compete with Ram’s EcoDiesel tough, the 2.8 will likely hit the trucks. Besides, having driven a Colorado Diesel (shop foreman for a Chevrolet dealer), usable torque is plenty and the tune is surely conservative.
2.8 is to small for the 1/2 ton trucks
@ Dmax fan “2.8 is to small for the 1/2 ton trucks”
Maybe it’d be a good fit for regular cab, short and long bed, work trucks.
Extended and Crew cabs not so much.
Only if GM doesn’t screw up like they have with the Canyon/Colorado and make you order a crew cab to get it. I wanted to get a Canyon extended cab, but GM won’t let you order one with the diesel. Another missed sale GM.
Is there really that big of a difference between the two? If this is what is keeping you from buying then I think you actually have zero interest and are just looking for a reason not to buy one!
Don’t say you want a diesel then go out of your way to find a reason not to have one.
It would have to get great MPG , Close to what the RAM gets and not have the high cost of the larger 6.6 Duramax .
I have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 3.0 Diesel, which is the same VM Motori engine that’s in the 1/2 T RAM. I get 22-28 MPG, until I hook up a 4000 lb. trailer. Then it drops to 12-15 MPG and struggles a bit on the Mountain Hiways. I get better MPG towing the same trailer with my 2015 1 Ton Duramax and unlike the Jeep, towing it is effortless. I can’t imagine trying to tow a 7000 lb. trailer with the Jeep/Ram 3.0.
While I really like the 3.0 for general driving and off roading, it really lacks power and fuel economy when towing. On the other hand, I love my Duramax 6.6 for everything except the rough ride. I would buy a GM 4.5 Yukon-1500 in a heartbeat!
We could sure use this combo in our 1500 trucks, but it would even do well in the Suburban. People are so up tight about power, fuel economy is secondary. Remember the old Dodge Cummins. Now look at the ratings of the new diesels. 6.2 is a great power house, but GM advertise the heck out of them, and nobody has got them. And you can only get in the upper two trim levels.
No we really need the 4.5 diesel.
One of the ibbest mistakes GM made was to kill this engine. Heck they even tested it in a rear engine Corvetter prototype (saw the photo). If built, GM would have owned the light truck market now. Originally built to fit in a sbc envelope, so there is retrofit opportunite also.
It’s not too late! Build it.
I’d love it as long as it didn’t push out the 4.3 V6. That’s too good of a motor to ever lose.
Bunch of respectible comments…that engine in a CC half ton is what I need now.
I read people stating they would love the 4.5-liter LMK Duramax V8 engine, but there is only one problem. The cost to the consumer. The 2.8-liter four-cylinder turbo diesel in the GMC Canyon/Chevy Colorado has an MSRP of $3700. With the higher cost of diesel gas compared to regular unleaded it would take up to five years to make up that price tag (depending on how much mileage is put on the truck). I own a Canyon and I probably will by another Canyon, but I can’t justify the cost of the diesel engine. Now take the GMC Sierra and put the 4.5L diesel in that. It will likely cost $4500-$4800 MSRP. Can you justify the cost and will you make up that cost over a five year period in gas savings? Some may, but I definitely would not. I did the math figuring out my yearly mileage, the MPG differential, and gas price differential between diesel and regular unleaded. The price of the diesel for the GMC Canyon would have to be cut in half for me to even consider it. Think about what it would take to save money on a diesel for the GMC Sierra. If you are talking about towing/hauling, that is another issue entirely. However, many people don’t haul a true heavy load. There are those that do. Have friends that tow camping trailers (a lot). I don’t. Many people use their trucks just to go up to the local hardware store and load stuff up in the back. That is not too say there aren’t businesses, farmers, vacationers, that routinely need the heavy tow/haul capacity, but for the vast majority they don’t. I would think twice if I were GM before stepping in. I would look at the diesel sales for the Canyon/Colorado first.
Where I live, Diesel fuel is typically around the same as Unleaded gasoline. If you use B-20, which is available at most of the Shell locations in my area, it is 15 – 20 cents per gallon less than Unleaded. I use B-20 in my 2 Duramax’s, Jeep 3.0, Power Stroke, and VW. The VW, Power Stroke and 1 Duramax all have over 100,000 miles on them and are going strong. Because I utilize B-20, I use synthetic oil in all of them and change the oil/filter at 7000 mi.
My fuel mileage:
38-45 MPG City-Open Hiway VW Jetta
22-28 MPG City-Open Hiway Jeep Grand Cherokee Eco Diesel
12-15 MPG Towing, 18-22 MPG Open Hiway 2006 Duramax
12-15 MPG Towing, 15-18 MPG Open Hiway 2015 Duramax
11-13 MPG Mostly City, 2006 Power Stroke
You can make the paper work say what you want it to say. Something that you will have a hard time factoring in is drive-ability and total lifetime cost of ownership. Most folks that buy a good Diesel vehicle, like them a lot and keep them a long time. That’s why Diesel vehicles have been growing in popularity. However, they are not for everyone!
…. did you factor in resale value in your calculations? My experience is that you get a lot of the added cost of the drive train back at tradein.
I would definitely buy a 1/2 Ton GM Truck with a 4.5L Duramax Diesel in it. What I would Love to see is the option to get a 1/2 Ton Tahoe & Suburban with a 4.5L Duramax Diesel!!!
Sounds way better than the eco diesel ram has, plus GM builds a better truck.
A lot of good discussion. I agree it “briefs” well but cost would be a concern. While GM make great trucks the price of a 1/2 ton truck is nearly eclipsing 60k these days! Put a duramax in the loaded up LTZ/SLT (which GM would most likely require) this is what they do with the 6.2 and 2.8 motors and you’ve got a truck over 60k. My current Sierra retailed for 55k, if it weren’t 10k off end of year deals I would have never gotten there. Then you start talking about Tahoe/Yukon/suburbans, these suv’s are already in the 65-75 range, add a diesel and there getting close the 80-85k! I think the sales point would be a lower trim used for towing where they could keep cost below 50k.
Hmmm,
Interesting to read all the comments. A few years ago, I would have been one of the build it and I will buy it guys but now, I am not so sure. I have at 2016 Sierra Crew Cab with the 6.2 and it is amazing. I am consistently getting 20MPH and I drive it like I drove my Camaro – hard and fast. It hauls/tows beyond my needs so… I personally think any new diesel from GM needs to be Hybrid. For me to pay an additional $5K I would really want to see something different/better in terms of torque and fuel economy, etc. In the end though, I still love the idea of a diesel in the 1500 series but after owning this 6.2L, not sure I need anything else.
How much weight are you towing? I have a 29′ travel trailer I pull with my 5.3 2WD 09 Yukon with tow package rated at towing 8700 lbs. Obviously the Yukon struggles on hills. I have also considered the 6.2 1/2 ton since I dont need the 3/4 ton however I need the torque. Also I have a Bullydog on the 5.3 and have to run premium with octane boost in tow mode.
Diesel engine in all pickups, Wheather 1/2 ton, or 1 ton should be an option. Diesels have more power, greater efficiency, and a longer life. If GM brought a diesel to their 1/2 tons, I know loads of people who would be interested in getting one.
The power and torque figures for the 2.8 are comparable to mid-eighties-era 350’s and 454’s, respectively. There is nothing inadequate about either in a modern full-size truck, particularly when backed up with a good 8-speed automatic. With that said, I probably wouldn’t buy one – because I’m a power junkie. I bought a 3/4 ton just to get a diesel. I would probably go back to a half-ton if something respectable (read 4.5 Dmax) were available, because I don’t “use” the capacity of the 3/4 – I just like the way a diesel drives. I might try the Nissan. I won’t try the Dodge. If the 4.5 were available today I would have one.
I want one. The 6.2 puts out 460lbs torque running premium. I would rather pay extra for the extra torque when towing in the hills and still have the 1/2 ton ride.
Evrything I own runs on diesel fuel and I have been running diesel engines since the day I got my licenese back in 2004. I was most excited for the possibility of the 4.5L Duramax making it’s way back into a Suburban. I’ve had a number of 6.2 Diesel and 6.5 Turbo Diesel suburbans. And currently I have a 1998 6.5L Turbo diesel suburban, a 2004 Volkwagen Touareg V10 TDI and a 2006 Chevy 3500 Dually, Duramax of course. But then I’ve been accused of being a little biased because of the fact that I’m a diesel mechanic.
The primary selling point of diesel engines, for me, has always been the longevity. The mileage is just a bonus. All of my vehicle have well over 200,000 Miles with my 1998 suburban at 345,000+ and they all run perfect with no engine lights…
So yes I would buy a new V8 half ton without even thinking twice about it. Unfortunately I can’t say for certain that it would be a Chevy/GMC. We just got the Touareg for my wife after handing back a Leased 2013 Buick Verano that had nothing but problems for the whole 3-year lease. And the service at all 6 dealerships surrounding our location was appalling…So I’m pretty disheartened with GM these days.
The 4.5 engineering was unique and exciting. Could it be possible that the new 2017 HD’s will have this engine in a 6-7 litre size. After all the engine info has been very secretive on these trucks. Just thinking.
My next 1/2 ton truck purchase will be one that has a diesel engine under the hood. So, if GM wants my business then they need to offer a diesel engine.
With the HP race on in deisel why doesn’t GM have variable power built in much like the after market units available. Sometimes 300 HP would be more than adequate and if you need 500 just dial it up. It would be an industry leader. GM needs to get back to leading, not following and playing catch up.
I have been waiting , stretching out my 2011 , the 4.5 litre diesel would be absolutely perfect for my needs ,,, as I said I’m waiting GM !!
I will be buying a new truck in 2017 ,, want a diesel 1/2 ton but doesn’t look like GM is moving in that direction have had GM for over 20 years now but will not have any choice ,, will have to change to get the diesel ,, wake up GM!!
I have been waiting so long for gm to come out with a diesel in the 1500 series truck. It would be a slam dunk in my opinion! I would order a truck right away if they came out with a diesel in the 1/2 tons. I like the diesel engines but prefer the ride of a 1500. It would be awesome!
Think about this.What GM needs is to built a regular 3/4 ton(like they had with the 1500 heavy duty)with a long box option with the 4.5 duramax engine.How many people need a heavy duty that drive one?Just because they want a diesel engine.
Don’t get me wrong I love a diesel but the 6.6 duramax and heavy duty truck is more than the majority of people that drive them need.
A half ton truck with a Diesel engine does not make economic sense if you think of how far gas engines have come,and what the majority of people do with their half ton trucks.
So I still say a regular 3/4 ton with crew cab and long box option would be the envy of the industry with the 4.5 baby duramax.
Chevyman is correct in saying many people buy the HD trucks for the deisel but would like a lighter truck. A 1500 with a 4.5 would be ideal. Are there numbers to tell us how successful Ram has been with their 3.0 litre deisel?
With deisel it is so easy to vary the torque/hp numbers. Just look at the aftermarket products you can buy to do that. And many deisel owners do, not only to increase power but also fuel economy. Why doesn’t GM build that right into the truck. Probably the majority of the time you don’t need all the power the Duramax provides and could get better mileage. Than if you needed more just adjust it up. This would be an industry leader and could give GM the bragging right so coveted right now.
A diesel in a 1500.. sign me up. I need the benefits of the diesel engine without the 3/4 ton truck. And I do not want an ecodiesel! The 2.8l duramax is just a little too small. Sierra 1500 duramax sounds perfect!
GM doesn’t have any choice now that Ford has stated they will have a diesel in their F150 next model year. Now that you will have Dodge, Ford and Nissan with a 1/2 ton pickup, it doesn’t leave much of a choice…
GM should build it. It will sell. Why not put in your highest volume vehicle to help with cafe standards. We need to be a leader in the market and not always be last.
I would trade in my 2015 2500 GMC Duramax tomorrow if I had the option of a 4.5L 1/2 ton diesel. And I know 20 other guys that would add well.
The half ton should definitely have a diesel. The Ram EcoDiesel is doing well around here, and Ford has its Ecoboost, while GM just sits on old technology. I tow a 7,000 lb travel trailer with a 5.3, and the truck handles fine with that load, but It falls on its face through the mountains where I’m always towing. If they don’t do some sort of diesel, I’ll be forced to jump ship after owning Chevy for 20 years now.
I would buy a 4.5 diesel in a 1500 in a heartbeat (pun intended.)
Colorado is just not what people are looking for, they are almost same size as 1500
Costs are a factor, but so is mileage, we are enjoying cheap gas at the moment but that will change. GM needs to look at us folks that use a truck for what it is intended for, Hauling. Not a pavement queen that is used to look good.
Keep the price under 40K and they will not be able to build them fast enough.
GM needs to get on the bandwagon, Dodge has and Ford in not far behind.
Well folks, the “Pressure” is now on GM! Ford is showing a 3.0 diesel at the Detroit Show, Ram has one and Nissan as well has a diesel in their half ton trucks. The Colorado is great, and people love them, but have had a few comments that it is just a little to small for their needs. I think with the requirements by the government for future MPG requirements on trucks, that they would be looking very hard at the 4.5. It would be the premier engine in the best truck built. Common GM, quite stalling. You know you got to do it, so be more proactive on the diesel application!
Michigan just raised gasoline taxes for 2017, good enough reason to get better fuel economy numbers.
I definitely would buy one. I have owned 2 Denali 2500’s in a row now. A 2010 and now a 2016 Duramax. My wife will not stay out of my trucks and she loves the Duramax but I couldn’t get her to drive the smaller Canyon with the Duramax. She says it’s a girls truck..lol So I bought her a Sierra 1500 5.3 liter. I still can’t keep her out of my truck because she love the Duramax diesel sound. I blame this completely on GM and think they should do everything in their power to remedy my situation by giving me the option and it 1500 Sierra…lol
I’m a GM fan through and through but if they don’t put a diesel in the 1500 that gives great fuel economy when not towing and around 450 ft/lbs so it can pull a decent trailer I’m afraid I’ll have to go Ford which is normally a swear word in my house. I need a truck that is good on fuel for the 80% of the time I don’t need big power but still has the torque to pull my enclosed trailer the other 20%. The Dodge Ecodiesel and the 2018 F150 fit the bill but I really don’t want to go with another brand. I don’t need a 3/4 for the towing I do and for how little I actually pull the trailer. I’ve had an ’88 1500, 2000 Sonoma, 2004 Silverado, 2010 Canyon and a 2011 Silverado all of which are / were great trucks. GM please don’t make me jump ship!
4.5 liter Duramax when it was designed had the same power output as the original 6.6 Duramax in 2001. I feel to make a better distinction between 1 ton and 3/4 ton trucks the 4.5 Duramax should be the diesel option in the 3/4 ton and the 6.6 Duramax in 1 ton and above. That could give the 3/4 ton buyer a cheaper diesel, better fuel economy, and capacity distinction from the 1 ton. 315 horsepower and 520 foot pounds of torque made a great power plant back in 2001. The 4.5 Duramax would surely gain a little power if updated with the latest know how that GM has gained since they moth balled it.
I believe that GM and myself would be better served if they also built a v6 version of the 4.5 liter which would make it about 3.4 liters. It would have a small size advantage over Ford and Ram, but should be able to match fuel efficiency numbers.
GMC will have to stay on track with Mercedes GL 350 Bluetec diesel engine witch gives you amazing milege.3.5 L DIESEL will be amazing to see in the TAHOE and Denali.Why Germans can do it why Americans can’t? Mercedes GL 350 Bluetec it’s in the same category as Tahoe and Denaly 8 seater SUV.RAM 1500 clean Diesel have the best diesel engine at the moment in The States and the best gas milege in the same category.Please don’t lag behind your competitors.Ford has 2.7 L engine in F 150, RAM 1500 HAS THE 3 L clean diesel engine.Give us TAHOE 3.5 L clean diesel you will make a boom.
I’m in an Eco Diesel now would gladly trade for a Chevy 1500 diesel!
Sure I would love a duramax 1500. Just wondering what percent of Colorado/Canyons have been sold with deisel since it was available. I’m sure GM is looking at this before committing. Any one know?
Thats a hard number to compare. Just like when GM teased the world with a Colorado ZR2 concept and built the “Trail Boss” package to test the waters. You can’t properly test the waters by marketing something that’s only a half assed version of what people really want. I bought a Z71 Diesel Colorado, but definitely would have bought a Silverado had it been offered with a diesel option that had good power output AND good fuel economy. I will likely trade-in on an F-150 diesel when they hit the dealerships, but like everyone else, I’m a GM owner at heart.
As far as the Colorado’s market. I’m in the Houston area and, at least around here, Diesel Colorado’s didn’t a week on the dealer lot. There is certainly a demand for a half-ton diesel pick-up’s. Chevrolet would do themselves a great service by offering one.
NOT MUCH OF A MARKET!?! Since GM discontinued their diesels in the early 90’s (from the 1500 lineup) there’s been a vacuum in the market. You can choose gas… or gas. I’ve tried to find an economical diesel in something smaller that a 3/4 ton for years. They are a rare gem (though usually wore out IF they can be found).
BRING BACK THE DIESEL!!
As a diesel lover it would be interesting to know what percent of Colorado/Canyon has been sold with the Duromax since it became available. I’m sure GM are looking at these numbers. Anybody know?
I am looking at updating my 1500 and would definitely buy the 4.5 duramax in the 1500 if was available. Already have a duramax in our 3500 and it’s a great engine.
4.5 would be perfect for me! I want the half ton with a diesel!
GM has never been very smart in the decision they make … the engine tech they are pushing now for the half ton trucks is a joke … I would love to see a diesel 4.5 in the 1500s if you tow anything it would be great .but the issue is they will make it cost prohibitive.these trucks are so over priced now the average guy or gal truly can not afford them … just like the 6.6 HDs the up charge is like 8-9 grand … that is insane … but people keep laying out the dollars so they will keep charging these inflated sums … so I guess I will just abstain from buying anything …
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If the baby duramax came onto the market I would certainly consider buying one love the power that a Diesel engine provides and it would be cool to have it in a half ton pickup truck
I pull a 1/5 wheel (10,500 LB) camper with a 2014 Silverado 1500, it does the job. But I’ve been waiting for the 4.5 Duramax diesel ever since it was developed. I’m one that likes the low end torque to do the job and obsessed with getting better MPG. Lets face the fact that people that want a excellent riding truck to pull their expensive toys will pay the extra to due it in a best in class 4.5 Duramax Diesel. I will buy one as soon as it can be ordered.
100% want/need it! My next truck (currently have a 2015 Silverado 1/2 ton) will be a half ton diesel! Which may be a Dodge or Ford at this point. Always been a Chevy guy, but if they don’t have a solution i’m jumping ship.
I would be happy with the 2.8L in the 1/2 ton. Better yet, I would like to have the 2.8L in the extended cab Colorado. The crew cab is half truck, half family car and is bad at both. Say, nothing of the $8k premium for the “upgraded” inconvenience.
Give me the option of a 3/4 ton suburban and a diesel to tow with – I’ll pay
GM needs to put either the 4.5l or 6.6L duramax in the Suburbans and Tahoes and Half tons as an Option.. It plain stupidity that they don’t offer it to begin with.. Fuel Mileage and Towing alone is enough to justify the argument.. I know for a fact id by a diesel suburban over a gas model any day. Towing a trailer down the highway with 3 to 5 kids you it couldn’t be beat… I currently have a LBZ Duramax and Im at 250k Miles with it now. Low Goal is 500k but my real goal would be 1 million miles. Before retiring the truck.. I get anywhere from 18 mpg to 29 mpg depending on circumstances not towing. And 13 mpg to 18 mpg towing..
ITS A NO BRAINER!!!! DMAX THE halftons and the Large SUV’s
Would be one of the best decisions they could make.. They make the most profit of the large vehicles.
In western canada it would sell for sure, people love diesels their buying the dodge version so no reason people wouldnt buy a far more superior 4.5 L Dmax!!!