This is a question we’ve been pondering for some time. So, we decided to pass it on to you all. Let’s build a brief argument for it.
The 2016 Chevrolet Camaro will feature some of the most powerful engine choices ever offered in the long-running nameplate. They include a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder making 275 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque, a 3.6-liter V6 making 335 hp and 284 lb-ft and finally the mighty LT1 6.2-liter V8 producing 455 hp and 455 lb-ft of torque.
Those potent powerplants could arguably benefit from more then just the rear wheels for power delivery. And as the American muscle car evolves, we see it becoming more, and more globally competitive. Heck, you could even say they’re more sports cars than straight-line, torque-twisting muscle cars.
On the other hand, all-wheel drive was already considered for the 2016 Cadillac ATS-V as an option, but dropped in the name of weight savings. And both the ATS-V and Camaro ride on the Alpha platform, which gives us a feeling it may have been looked at once before. The 2016 Camaro has already lost 200 pounds, but depending on which engine is under the hood, even more mass is eroded from the curb weight.
Besides, a good set of rubber and the 2016 Camaro should be ready to put all of its ponies to the pavement.
But, we turn it to you now. Should the Camaro team ready an all-wheel drive system for the 2016 Camaro? Or should it soldier on in its true rear-wheel drive fashion. Vote in the poll below, and sound off in the comments section.
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Yes! RWD is the only thing holding me back from getting one. After the winter he just had here I’m Massachusetts, I can’t go without AWD. I really like the new Camaro, but without AWD there’s no chance of me getting one as my primary car.
MA resident here: My winter wheels/tires allow me to daily drive my Camaro all year long. And its super fun.
I still want AWD, but I would enjoy both equally.
The Camaro SS NEEDS the OPTION of AWD option IMMEDIATELY. Look up OPTIONAL in the dictionary before you say no. Alpha is already engineered for it, the majority of the population deals with cold/wet roads, and the GM V8 has been traction limited for years. Statistics show buyers will pay for AWD if offered. If you disagree with the stats or the benefits, you should research the following: Porsche, Lamborghini, Audi, Infiniti in addition to 911 Turbo, Lamborghini Huracan, G37x, and the list goes on and on.
^^^THIS^^^
Make it an option and an option ONLY. The rest of us should not have to suffer the loss of optimum driving dynamics that RWD has for a few snow belters and or, no skill having drivers.
The only way I would want this would be as a high tech option electric motor hybrid paired with the 2L turbo with more boost. But you would have to fine now weight savings in the design by using aluminum and/or carbon fiber. Of course the cost would push it way beyond the average Camaro buyer. Maybe a Z28 tech package? I’m spit balling.
Same here man! I just had one as a rental. I had it for 5 weeks. Amazing vehicle and loved driving it. We got hit with a small snow storm and had to go to work. I learned quickly that this car did not like snow in any way. Chevy! Please make this option available! I’ll pre-order one!
stuped qestion. awd is must have in options
Do it.
AWD in a hi-po option package would be an ace up the sleeve and give the Camaro an edge that the Mustang would never have.
Then again, a performance AWD Camaro would be several rungs up and away from any flavour Mustang that it would be foolish to compare them.
Not sure if that would play well with the true Camaro enthusiast. It would add much to the price if you use a good system and add back the 200 pounds you just lost.
Now on the other hand a Buick coupe call it a GN if you need to then add a TT V6 and AWD Haldex system. This car would be at a price where it would be better able to support a quality AWD system and it could be better suited for those who buy the Audi like cars. The Buick also would be joined by a Opel and Holden.
This way you can address both markets and keep both cars. The Camaro has always been a hang the tail out car to drive. To remove that would dampen the image of what it has been.
Also if you want to put AWD where it really would do more good add it to the CTSV and ATSV. Also it will be on the new CT6 hybrid where it will have less weight than a Tesla and 1,000 foot pounds of combined torque at the wheels.
Scott- A Buick GN with AWD would be ideal, but having that option on the Camaro might work as well. This is especially true for the 2.0 liter turbo. Either way, I sure hope GM has something along this idea in the pipeline. Almost time for me to shed the Corvette for a car my wife would actually drive!
I would love a AWD Camaro but here is the thing. Most Camaro owners are not crying for it and they would amount to a small percentage of the price.
The AWD system would not be cheap as $5K is not cheap in a car like this that is seen as the performance value leader. Also with 455 FT LBS it needs to be bullet proof.
As it is now the Camaro would not be the first to get such a system as Cadillac would be in the CTSV if anything.
GM is trying to keep price down, the weight down in this model and both would be hampered. Also the MPG would drop a bit and the power to drive the front drive robs power and with a car like a Camaro 1/4 mile times are king and with the car as it is odds are the quart times are as good better with RWD only.
Winter driving the present car has no issues as a all season machine with the electronics and good tires.
Buick is needing to make models that will be unto itself. This is a good niche that would benefit them. It also would make a great Opel and Holden model. Could a RHD Camaro be not in the cards for a Buick Holden coupe with AWD?
Finally the Camaro will not see AWD before the Corvette. Just not something I would expect as they have explained already the reasons they would not put it in the Corvette.
Though I would note that the CT6 hybrid is coming and the torque from t he AWD system is said to be reaching 1,000 FT LBS. If true it has to have gas rear and hybrid electric front drive. Now this may be a system we will see at one point? If cost on the system drops and weight is lost it could be at some point.
I like the idea of AWD Camaro’s but you really have to ask and answer the real world questions that many on the web fail to answer. Building cars is much more than just hey this is a good idea.
Also look at the Nissan GTR, while an amazing machine it still pays a price for it’s AWD system. Weight is a major issues in this small car. With AWD there are advantages but too often in some price segments there is a bitter price to pay too.
I hate that GM restricts options like this from chevy, drives me nuts. But in this case, Chevy please do not put an awd in the Camaro. I’ve owned four Camaros, and awd will take away some of the spirit that makes it a camaro. GM should make awd buick GNX with the twin turbo v6, that makes sense.
If they wanted to give chevy an awd coupe, I’d be down for awd Monte Carlo, take a camaro, give it a new front clip, tail lights, and awd, share a lot of the camaro’s components. It’ll give the camaro a stronger aftermarket support, especially when gm decides to start “obsoleting” replacement parts. Also if somebody wants to make an awd camaro they can transfer the front cross member from a wrecked awd monte.
The GTR with it’s AWD is faster than everything GM produces. (that hurts to type) GM needs AWD to compete. To argue anything else is just plain stupid.
Please don’t confuse “inbred luddite fools” and “Camaro enthusiasts”. I am a Camaro Enthusiast owning new Camaro V8’s since 1993 and I insist on AWD as an option for the Camaro SS.
GM already makes such a car, it’s called the Opel Insignia OPC and it has a turbo V6 with 321hp/321 lb/ft torque, a six speed and Haldex AWD. It’s the car the current Regal is based on.
Alpha fully supports it, and doing an RPO option for around $5,000 across all trims would be the way to do it properly.
The way to not do it properly would be to restrict it to SS or ZL1. Then the bean counters will use that to rationalize limited demand for Chevy AWD cars as so few will uptake.
The problem is you will cannibalize sales from the ATS and CTS. With blind spot and sudden-stop, the visibility limitations are less of a sales differentiator.
Chris even opened up to all Camaro models you may see 10% as the take rate.
Even on the Ford Fusion it is at best at times 12% on the AWD take rate.
AWD is a expensive option and most people really do not care. Even on the popular CUV models over half are FWD even with a Cheaper AWD system offered.
$5K is not cheap for option on a car that starts around $25,000 and goes up from there. The reason AWD is often linked to the expensive models is it is easier to sell when it is not approximately 1/5th or 1/6th of the cars sticker price.
Also we much factor in that Chrysler and Ford both are also not doing AWD for the same reasons so GM is not alone in how they package cars. Trust me if there was enough demand and advantage to an AWD system in this segment GM and Ford would both have packaged it in.
Maybe once the CTSV gets a system it will bring the cost down and make it a better chance here but for now until the CTSV and the Corvette do not have it the Camaro is not going to be the first to see it.
I expect Buick to feature AWD on almost all models as an option. We are almost there now and I expect it to expand. They have to bridge the gap between Chevy and Cadillac and being featured with AWD would really help and their price segment would support it .
Aside from Verano, Buick already does that already.
I can’t see GM losing money at $5k/car with a 10% uptake. GM may just fear the numbers will be quite a bit lower.
As to CTS-V, not sure why GM didn’t roll it out. With Sigma II CTS’s, there was a huge performance hit as the AWD system was ported from first-gen Sigma. It’s possible they’re gunning for a torque-vectoring rear-based Haldex array, but I don’t see any huge benefits to doing that until you cross 700 hp.
The Sigma is dead and the system needed for the new V needs to be world class to make good use and control of the AWD. It for sure will have vectoring but it will also have to be very strong. As of now how much would that cost and add in weight. Also how much would it really lower a lap time?
The stability tuning is already doing much of the work.
Lets face it how much faster would a Z06 be lap time? With added weight and drag of the driveline it would not always add up.
AWD is still a niche market and it has to be used in the right place under the right circumstances.
The Camaro would not react well with a Subaru bases system. Even the better Subaru systems on the top line WRX are not the same as the cheaper Foresters.
How is AWD affecting the Porsche 918 while it’s setting track records all over the world? The AWD Porsches are the fastest accelerating stock cars on the street, and the AWD Lambos are the fastes street cars on the planet. END OF STORY.
You do realize that is a whole different program as it is a hybrid and it is using mechanical and electric drive.
Also you do realize that they are going for close to $1,000,000. It is very difficult to compare a 918 to a Camaro. Even the GTR price is now over $149,000 for the good one.
I think you said you were the Camaro enthusiast and not the imbred fool so tell me just how much you want to pay for a AWD Camaro? The RWD now in SS form loaded is nearing $50K and the even the Turbo with AWD would be well over $35,000 by the time you get all the good things.
You have to realize there are limits on how you can price a Chevy outside a Camaro. People will only pay so much.
We heard the gnashing of teeth on the Z/28 when it came out because it was using some real world class parts on it. The brakes and shocks alone are a fortune.
If you want AWD and to do it right it will not be cheap or light. Maybe if the Hybrid system the CT6 comes down it may be a viable option.
Scott3, you mention a 10% uptake at 5k per car. That is actually not so bad as far as an option goes. You are right in that Camaro enthusiasts would most likely not take the option, but as the word implies it is simply an option. There is another section of the market that looks at a Camaro but decides it is not a viable option due to winter road conditions for example. These people would be willing to buy a Camaro if AWD was offered. In the end Chevy would be reaching more people, not loosing customers by adding the AWD option. Also the example of the fully loaded SS. If you are at the point of spending 50K on a car, really the 5K would not be so much more for a customer already willing to spend that much and 35K is actually a great deal for an AWD car when you look at available options and pricing. I think the main idea here is not to look at the people already buying a Camaro because for them nothing will change and they will continue to buy it. The idea is to look at who else could be buying one if an AWD option was offered
I think there’s a considerable market for pony car buyers that don’t care about the added weight. GM is really big on promoting that this is the first pony car… that is more than just a pony car. It’s a premium family coupe that happens to be a sport car.
If it were 15 years ago and 335 hp wasn’t standard on the V6, that weight might matter. I’m already stuck behind a car 75% of the time, so I’d rather take the slower lap time and not swear every time I hit a puddle and trac-control all over the place in a RWD car.
The AWD option is around $2,000 for almost every other manufacturer. But, even at your ridiculous $5k price for adding AWD to my Camaro SS is better than having to buy, maintain and insure an additional AWD car for wet and winter driving.
Yes if you are buying a Lacrosse, Equinox or low end Subaru.
I seriously doubt the cost of having AWD on a Porsche 918 is anywhere near $2000. More likely in the $15-20,000 range. Same goes for the GT-R. These are nearly $1M cars and no one can compare them to a Camaro, nor should anyone sane be trying. AWD systems like the Equinox, Lacrosse, etc are cheaper systems that only need to handle 300 hp and under 300 torque. Plus these systems only send partial power to the rear wheels while main driving system is FWD. There is a completely different need in the abilities of an AWD that has to handle 425+ hp and torque under various driving situations (track racing, drag strips, or slaloms).
I feel like im one of the few who perfers rwd to awd, just based on the cars iv’e driven that are awd, understeer seems to be a huge issue, also for some reason from a roll the cars feel slower. I feel RWD is perfectly fine and better for performance. Less weight, Less complexity, plus I feel its superior from a performance standpoint. AWD is another way of doing things. but for the Camaro RWD seems to be superior. Im not saying Chevy a shouldnt have a AWD performance car (they really should) but i dont feel it should be the camaro, and im not just saying that becuase its the cars heritage to be rwd, im saying rwd seems to be the best for performance, and the camaro has always been about on road/track performance.
AWD how ever, that would be more then welcome for a car in chevys lineup, could you guys imagine a sonic sized hot hatch with a 2.0 turbo with the ability to rally and hoon around in the snowy states?
damnit chevy just make more performance cars! there so good they have us wanting more and more!
Yes please make AWD an option on both Camaro and specially on the Corvette!! This way those Camaro’s and Corvette’s get better 0-60’s and quarter mile times. Its time GM offered those options. Way overdue actually!!!
AWD is what makes the porsche 918 and the nissan gt-r amazing. Every consumer performance car should have it.
I’ve been a camaro affections do for practilly my whole life and would say that going awe would be a bad idea. Camaro was made to be a poor mans sport car . Putting it in reach for those who want a sports car and can’t afford a vette . Perhaps making another model car that will compete with Audi , Bmw such as a chevelle SS Awd or like before mentioned a gnx Awd will suit the bill better.
This is what most Camaro owners are saying. This is the most popular thought with this model.
All wheel Drive for the Camaro? no, not for now
Always has a RWD like Mustang or Challenger, the AWD must be for the Cadillacs o some Buicks sedans they have a competition with the same arquitecture in other cars in his segment
Is not necessary, maybe the future Z/28 high performance yes
AWD can be a major force directed to the rear wheels. The AWD system is very clever nowadays. for the most part could be behind the belt of the car and the front wheels when needed will come to the rescue. and can also be adjusted. However, the AWD may be an additional option.
YES! I can almost guarantee that I’d buy one if it came with AWD (assuming the back seat and trunk are at least usable). I prefer two doors to four, but living in the Northeast I will not consider a rear-wheel drive only vehicle. I can only have one car at this time, and still need to be able to get to work in the snow too. I’m not talking performance here on the SS, it’s about traction. If they can’t offer it in a V6 model, then don’t bother because it will be out of my price range.
Oh my God! An AWD Camaro? Please, GM, don’t do it! What’s next… FOUR DOORS! If you want a market competitive AWD car with some muscle, SCRAP the “SS” grocery-getter, throw on AWD, and reintroduce it as a Chevelle in various configurations. This would appeal to those who can’t handle a high-powered RWD legend like the Camaro (and Corvette).
What a stupid post.
GM already sold multiple Camaro sedans. Pontiac G8, SS Sedan, CTS-V. A a 900hp Corvette owner that wants AWD as an option for all GM performance cars, I laugh at your moronic assertion.
Take it easy dude, deep breaths.
A Pontiac G8, SS, CTS-V may have similar powertrain/platform but it is not a 4 door Camaro. A Camaro is a Camaro and has been since 1967; 2 doors, rear wheel drive, puts smile on your face from ear to ear, allows you to drift, fish tail, do smoke shows, etc.
I grew up in Camaros and there is no way I would want an AWD Camaro. If I want an AWD performance car, then I’d buy the CTS-V as that is what it marketed for. There is a reason the Mustang and Challenger are RWD…… for those who want classic muscle cars. An AWD would turn it into a tuner car like the GT-R, Porsche, etc. GM has stated that the CTS-V is the AWD that goes after the $50,000+ AWD European sports cars. Even a Mustang Cobra or 500GT are RWD and look at the price tags of those.
There is a market for European AWD sports cars in North America, and that is what the CTS-V was designed and built to compete again, both in performance and price tag.
Snow tires = Camaro that is good in snow.
AWD – ehhhh, maybe. I’d go RWD still myself.
You can run snow tires on an AWD car for winter performance that’s superior to a RWD with car tires. The fact that I have to spell this out for some people is absolutely pathetic.
You don’t have to be a condecending prick to anyone who disagrees with you. There is more to it than just throwing AWD from a 300hp ats in. They would have to spend a large amount on R&D to develop and integrate this option into a car that simply doesnt need awd. Time and money they could spend on things people do want and will pay for. So yes, it would affect the Camaro enthusiast that would never buy it. If the Camaro loses profitabiity it either goes on the chopping block or gets less upgrades.
Stop acting like a pouty child and realize that people have other opinions and that your opinion is not a fact.
I don’t know about you, but I DO NOT want to deal with the expense and hassle of snow tires, or finding a place to store them through the summer, plus having mismatched wheels for 1/4 of the year or paying for two extra factory wheels to match. AWD would just be cheaper in the long run, and a lot less hassle. Also, I don’t know where you live, but snow tires work better in some areas than other. If you live somewhere flat, snow tires on a RWD will get you through all but the worst blizzards, but not here. With the hilly windy back roads that my 15 mile commute to work consists mostly of, the best snow tires in the world aren’t going to get you through. If I see a RWD car, I’m usually passing/going around it because it’s stuck.
You do not need winter tires. There are good all season performance tires that work just fine on today performance cars.
I live in a town with most of the Tire tech centers and we are in the snow belt. The folks I know who work there use the all seasons like myself with no issues.
Most of todays cars with electronic aids and a limited slip will do just fine in most major conditions as we see here. We see up to and over 80 inches of snow a year but yet few of us need dedicated tires and or AWD.
Most people who are stuck have bald tire. Check it out.
By the way we are in the foot hills of the mountains so we know hills.
Being a larger GM dealership who sells our fair share of Camaro’s, with the new 2016 being in the works and promo’d for quite some time now, we have yet to have a single customer ask about an AWD options on the new 2016’s. We have lots of people ask about being able to turn off the stability system for drifting, racing, etc, but not one ask about AWD. And we are in the snow belt in Canada.
I realize there are those who would appreciate the feature and yes, GM could have it as an option, but doubt the sales numbers would offset the costs of having it as an option. Don’t forget that GM has to have a committed number of AWD systems otherwise parts suppliers won’t guarantee a supply of parts needed and would there be enough demand for the number needed for a commitment to suppliers? That’s the magical question.
Where is your dealership located?
Prairies.
What many here don’t realize [or the average guy on the street for that matter] the only thing AWD would do for the Camaros is:
guarantee quicker off the line acceleration
make it slightly more surefooted in extreme weather conditions
Add alot of weight
Ruin driving dynamics and general handling
Don’t be fooled, EVERY AWD “sports car” out there uses electronic tricks to make up for the inherent understeer, increased weight and wonky sliding/loss of traction/beyond the limits handling dynamics AWD throws in the mix.
I always laugh when you hear the ignorant say “it’s got AWD so the handling is better” LOL…NO. The combination of AWD and behind the scenes electro-nannys allow you – the average no skill having driver – to keep it sunny side up. Pro and experienced drivers prefer and race RWD for a reason.
That said, I have no aversion to a AWD Camaro. Just think of all the Butt hurt GT-R Fanboys there will be if AWD SS’s, and ZL1s, or even Turbo 4s were to start hitting the streets and youtube in force.
How’s the driving dynamics of the Porsche 918, 911 Turbo, Lamborghini Huracan, and Nissan GTR ?????
The Camaro SS needs AWD right NOW. End of story.
I think if we all say the Camaro needs AWD, then we can all just say the Corvette needs AWD as well.
AWD conjures images of extra drive shafts, U-joints, differentials and power take-offs…. expensive, heavy stuff, plus understeer. Instead, add a case of lithium batteries, ceramic motors and charging system for more weight and much higher expense. Neither works in an economy-boost market. GM, having become ever more witty and inventive of late….. should be able to figure out that a dig accelerating Camaro shifts much weight to the rear wheels. Applying over 200 HP would only spin the front wheels, which could be dangerous. A Part-Time front wheel drive system is indicated. A 100 HP hydraulic motor per front wheel and a belt-driven pump would do it. Sprague clutches would let the motors rest when not needed, which would be 99% of the time. Such an add-on system spells O-P-T-I-O-N-A-L, plus GTR-beater. Besides, how the hell (cat) does one add dual exhausts to ceramic motors?!
I traded in my 2011 SS for an Audi. If the 2016 SS had awd, I’ll come back to Chevy.
First, saying “the Camaro needs AWD, like the Huracan, Porsche 918, GT-R…” etc. is stupid. All of those cars have base prices some 5x the base Camaro – or higher. And a comparably priced WRX doesn’t make nearly the power of the base SS.
Second, the Camaro finally is getting the weight loss it deserves. The ATS-V gained alot of weight in the stiffening it got to handle nearly 460hp… including a large shear plate in the front that sits where the front drive line would go.
Adding AWD as an OPTION now means you have to design in the space for the center/front diff and halfshafts in EVERY car, which has huge engineering and design implications downstream (such as needing an expensive dry-sump system to shrink the oil pan for space).
Third, I would think GM would be rightly concerned that any “performance enthusiasts” might try to make a “GT-R on the cheap” by modding an AWD Camaro. While a modded car isn’t a warranty issue, stories of a weak center differential could plague the new Camaro, just like stories of a weak rear end plagued the first-gen CTS-V.
And don’t tell me people won’t try to mod an AWD Camaro – especially when posts on here are wishing that exact thing – AWD to aid acceleration.
I say this because I’m not sure GM has an AWD system that can handle the torque of a modded LT engine, yet is small enough to fit something other than an SUV platform.
YES for the 4WD option. After looking on MT lap times on how it was improved on a 4WD Porsche Carrera S4 VS Carrera S, now I can see some logic on that, if you had ask me before I will answered just RWD.
Yes make it AWD, but don’t make the AWD mechanical. Drive the rear wheels with the turbo four and drive each of the front wheels with its own 75-100 hp electric motor. The performance and mileage improvements that the motors bring will offset the extra weight; the battery will lower the CG, and computer controlled motors will compensate for every moment of lag. The cars that get the best performance from AWD are TTR hybrids, and really, who needs to idle a Camaro engine when you’re stuck in traffic?
AND AN AWD IMPALA!!!!!
i personally don’t think AWD is necessary in a pony car. i’m not sure how many people in snowbelt statrs would consider an AWD Camaro as a daily driver personally i think putting an AWD option on the Corvette is a more sensible option, as it performs in the supercar class, where many of its competitors utilize AWD as a marketing tool to indicate to potential buyers, many of which are not “car guys” or engineers, that their cars have, on paper “street cred” and specs to give their cars legitimacy. i understand the Caddy CT6 was purposely designed to NOT have AWD, in a class where this feature is often expected and included as the price of admission.
i think putting an AWD option on Corvette makes a lot more sense, and when Chevy marketing and engineering honchos see the real world take rate, they casn make a much more educated
decision on the AWD Camaro. personally, when i was a kid, i used to drive my beloved second-hand ’70 Mustang convertible in the snow and winter all the time. i don’t believe all-season tires were available back then and i didn’t want snow tires killing the look of the ‘Stang. my solution was to throw a couple of big cat litter bags in the trunk, for weight and for use if i ever did get stuck, which might have happened once, if at all. i just used regular Michelin radial tires which always had good rubber, to me they were like snow tires. i’ll admit i was more of a daredevil back then, i was young and strong and that Mustang, my first car, was my baby. last point to me, pony cars were all about affordable American fun, big bang for the buck that could build brand-loyal buyers. Putting AWD in the Camaro would be a bold and risky move, one that i’d be hesitant to sign off on. i’d bet the ’16 Camaro will be a huge hit, with or without AWD. Perhaps mid cycle, when the car might be showing it’s age, the option can be made available, to renew interest. i certainly don’t think AWD is needed for 2016, but down the line, who knows? i think GM and Chevy can bask in the glory for the moment. i would trust Chevy engineers if the Camaro really needed AWD for vehicle dynamics ( does anybody say “handling” anymore? ). From a marketing standpoint, AWD could create quite a buzz, like IRS in the Mustang or 707 hp
in the you know what. I think Corvette as a testbed still makes the most sense. Corvette is the GM crown jewel built to showcase GM’s best stuff. Let real Corvette performance drivers decide if AWD is worth it, they have more disposable income. The price of AWD would have to make
sense from a performance standpoint (is the extra weight worth it?). The answer may be in all the numbers.
Need the option, both for SS and higher performance versions of the car. The pinnacles of automotive excellence all offer it, as well as key German competitors Audi and BMW.
The fastest cars around the TopGear track and Nurburgring are RWD.
AWD yes. This is my third Camaro and probably my last. Love the car but the RWD sucks big time and is downright dangerous in any weather condition other than a warm sunny day.
I had no choice but to drive quite a distance from my home and the weather turned horrible as I had to make the return trip. This was yesterday. I am now re-thinking wtf am I doing driving a car like this just because it’s pretty. It’s a freakin’ death trap. The car is not meant for any weather condition.
Please re-think why you are building this car with RWD? Seriously I have 2 1/2 years before I buy another car and I am now looking for an affordable alternative to the Camaro.
Please make the New Buick grand national all wheel drive twin turbo to compete with the gtr! Try to keep the Chevy muscle rear wheel because they’ll always set the records! Let’s show a real 3.8L V6 to companies like Nissan, and Porsche. 😉
Cad 2st choice. Bought 15 ATS Jan ’15 turbo /all wheel, happy with car. Camaro would be 1st choice if all wheel were available.
That may be why Chevy won’t offer AWD on the Camaro, because they want to sell more AWD Cadillacs with bigger profit margins. I also plan to buy an ATS4, but I’m getting mine used so as not to reward GM for their foolish business practices.
Living in Michigan with its Bad Winters I leased a Chrysler 300 with Hemi (392 hp) and AWD. Now leasing a Lincoln MKZ 6cyl 3.7 L (300 hp) with AWD. When the lease expires I will lease an AWD car. Maybe I don’t “need” all the hp, but in Northern U.S. I NEED AWD. I make this post in the Hope that mfg engineers are reading . . . BTW. I Always Buy or Lease U.S.A. Domestic vehicles. Would really like a Chevy Camaro with AWD.
Your comment is completely false and you are just perpetuating a myth. All cars have stability control and Traction Control as of 2012 anyway which makes is nearly impossible to lose control even if you try to. Lose the summer tires.. better yet. Put them on your AWD car and compare it to a well balanced RWD with a solid all season or winter tire and then get back to me on that BS statement that RWD is bad in all weather. Totally false. Bad information like this sickens me. Been driving a RWD for 17 years in PA winters. Never once had a problem.
Hey Dude. Sorry that you are “sickened.” Do you drive in the Frozen North? My college roomie of years ago is a retired Mech Eng specializing in Suspensions Engineering for a Big 3 Mfrg. You May be right, but I doubt it . . . call my observation “BS” brands you as a teenboy. Get a Life dude.
Elmer, when I read Dan’s words, they seem more like a reply to the words Jesse wrote in February than a reply to words of yours.
I would buy a Camaro in an instant if I could get one with AWD! No V8 option necessary, I’ll take the LGX V6 AWD combo that’s already developed for the Alpha-based ATS. Why? Because I want a sports car but cannot afford two cars and an empty garage bay for one of them to reside as winter garage queen. This, despite the fact that I despise the cartoonish styling of the Camaro. It comes down to the superiority of the Alpha chassis and my desire to buy American.
An AWD Camaro is such a no-brainer that it leaves no doubt that GM HQ is contaminated with some unusually powerful stupid. Their obstinance regarding AWD is really bizarre given the location of their tech center and proving grounds in the snow belt. It’s like they take pride in standing up to their customers to deny them what they want. Maybe someone should check to make sure they’re drinking unleaded water.