The Ford F-150 will drop the Power Stroke diesel engine from its lineup sometime in the near future, according to a new report from GM Authority’s sister site Ford Authority.
The 3.0L Power Stroke V6 diesel engine was added to the light-duty pickup’s powertrain lineup for the 2018 model year, so its demise comes just a few short years after its introduction to the F-Series lineup. It’s not clear why the Power Stroke V6 was dropped from the Ford F-150’s order book, but there are probably several reasons for its departure. For starters, the Power Stroke V6 was not as powerful or as efficient as the new 3.5L PowerBoost V6 hybrid engine, but still carried a $500 price premium over it.
Additionally, the Power Stroke V6 diesel was not available to order with certain popular options. For example, the larger 36-gallon extended-range fuel tank could not be paired with the engine, nor could the Pro Power Onboard external generator system. Pro Power Onboard is available with every EcoBoost engine on the Ford F-150 and is standard on models with the PowerBoost hybrid engine. Diesel engines are also falling out of favor with certain consumers, who may view them as less eco-friendly than their gasoline-powered equivalents.
While Ford has elected to ditch the diesel engine from its light-duty pickup line, General Motors looks set to continue on with the 3.0L LM2 inline-six diesel in the Chevy Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500. This engine was introduced on the trucks for the 2019 model year and has seen moderate market success so far, with Chevy citing a take-rate of between 10 and 14 percent. In an interview with GM Authority, Director of Chevrolet Truck Marketing, Bob Krapes, told GM Authority the diesel has helped drive “great growth” for the Silverado nameplate on the west coast.
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Keep the 3.0 DMax!! Such a great powerplant. I plan on getting one in the fall, failing that I"ll have to order a 2022 NBS most likely
FORD F-150 never needed the Diesel 3.0 PowerStroke that’s what the Super Duty is reserve for. Plus it’s over shadow and out shine by a family of EcoBoost Engines
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Overall, I'm a diesel fan. Growing up on a farm, it's kind of natural. I've also owned several used and four new diesels over the years. Personally, I'd love to see a PHEV with a very economical diesel instead of a gas engine for the max MPG's you would ever see. But diesel is not gaining in popularity and is falling.
I'm not surprised to read this and I'm sure GM and Ram will follow. With trucks going electrified in a big way,why offer the light duty diesels?
Won't see diesel hybrid. Too expensive and too heavy. Works for trains, not trucks.
Andrew: True. Kind of a wish list for me and something that I feel would make the greatest impact on fuel efficiency and helping climate. Imagine a large truck with a small turbo 4 diesel putting out about 200 HP along with a hybrid tech now available. I imagine something like that would be able to pull 40+ mpg average.
Dan, but there is much that can still be done with diesels. No half ton uses a turbo compounder Ike the new DD8’s and Mack HE strait sixes do. Cummins is also testing cylinder deactivation to eliminate regeneration cycles and reduce emissions while increasing chemical cycle efficiency. We could see for some time now the GM 3.0 receive many enhancements to keep it competitive for at
Least a decade. The power stroke 3.0 was a lug that really never was competitive and never should have existed. the 3.0 on the other hand is a sweet engine and i know lots of People who are interested in it. It’s number one problem honestly IMHO, is just how good a deal the 5.3 is
Steven: You mention Cummins developments.
Cummins is now the world leader in diesel engine technology. Cummins has gone into technical collaboration with Motorola Solutions on electronics for their fuel delivery and emission control enhancements. Also Cummins R & D has more diesel engine test cells than any other diesel engine maker on the planet. And they are a pure stand alone power products maker unlike equipment makers like Caterpillar, Volvo, and Deere, and unlike truck makers Daimler and Navistar.
Cummins big devotion to R & D has made them king of the Hill in on-high light duty and heavy duty diesel engines.
Proud to see this with an American based company.
Go Cummins!
Yet my neighbors Ram 2020 with a Cummins continually has a performance issue when driven in town or stop and go freeway traffic. It loads up, dealer says no fixes currently.
Rick:
Your neighbor must have a sloppy dealer.
Have your neighbor contact Cummins directly in Columbus, Indiana about his engine performance issue.
If still unresolved, have your neighbor contact the RAM zone office.
If still unresolved have your neighbor contact the state agency consumer affairs department in the state where he lives.
Last try is the BBB.
In my experience the BBB in Colorado is totally worthless.
Best of luck and wishes in resolving this.
Ford's offering was phoned in. Imported from the UK from LR. Before Covid I checked national new F150s forsale. 6 3.0 Powerstrokes were listed nation wide. SIX! Checked 2 different national car sale websites. Ford didn't care.
Now where's the same people about dropping an engine choice?, if the 3.0 Dmax was dropping for the same we wouldn't hear the end of it.
If Silverado had an optional hybrid on all trim levels they could drop the diesel
Or just some better MPG numbers from their existing gasoline engines.
If the Sierra and Silverado Hybrids from 10 years ago were any indicator, Hybrid pickups are TRASH. 65,000km on a rear diff before the carrier grenaded. Hybrid drive sensors going wonky causing complete failures. The list goes on. Oh, add to that my GMC Jimmy had more cargo capacity than a Sierra Hybrid. If my former employer hadn't put the keys to that junk pile in my hands when I worked there, I wouldn't have anything bad to say about him or the truck.
The problem with diesels popularity falling is the emissions. It’s an expensive, unreliable system that needs to be reengineered. Who wants to spend 60k plus on a truck that doesn’t have the reliability of the older diesels.
That's just people whining. Injector failures, timing sensitivity, cavitation, block failures (6.0 Powerstroke) were all things before the big emissions hit.
The dollar per MPG cost is around 50% better on a diesel than a plug-in hybrid.
And as I mentioned before, gas is going to get the exact same emissions controls because they work so well from the regulator's standpoint. European gas engines already have particulate filters. Gas engines are barely meeting falling NOx limits today, plus DI lean burn is going to be needed to meet CAFE. Get ready for gas SCR, which has already been built in test vehicles.
Great, now we can deal with particulate filter sensors failing and regen cycles on everyday cars. I guess that's one way to make you want an EV.
Delete. If you don’t know how probably shouldn’t own a diesel
I wasn't talking about a diesel.
That was the whole point.
Ford and Ram charge too much for the diesel. GM seems to be at a lot more aggressive price point, making it a lot easier to justify the cost, not much different that a lot of other add-ons.
Agree on the Ford but not on the Ram. Another thing that Ram does is let folks order the Diesel on all trim levels from the lowest to the highest.
No wonder I keep getting flagged down with folks wanting to buy my 97 F-350 4X4 crew cab XLT with the 7.3 power stroke. Best truck I’ve ever owned after the tranny was warranty overhauled.
Diesel is overkill in a half ton. Costs more to maintain and when parts start breaking you will end up losing over a gas.
Agree 100%
Jim: Your truck is Gold. Hold on to it. The 7.3 Ford diesel is the engine of choice. Vintage diesel pickups are stellar compared to the new offerings. Sad that automakers are now burying their engines in the engine compartment and having to accessorize the engine with all the emission control components.
Ford floundered for several years on their own in house development and offerings of light diesel truck engines. The 6.0 was a nightmare.
At the outset of equipping Ford light and mid range trucks with diesel engines they went to International - Navistar for the NA 6.9, and to Caterpillar for the 636 cubic inch 3208 diesels. Both made a bazillion of these diesels for Ford.
Chrysler - Dodge went to Cummins which turned out to be a huge winner for them. This saved Dodge trucks now Ram. Funny that Ram is now No.2 in light truck sales behind Ford. Chevy - GMC is now in the number 3 position. Cummins put FCA's light trucks back on the radar big time.
My friends fleet of work trucks were part diesel, part gas. Over the life of the trucks (he kept them 150K) the gas trucks were less expensive to keep and spent less time in the shop for repairs/maintenance. The gas units were finally less expensive including resale.
One other thing, the diesels were all DEF units and when driven in city/traffic they all had engine performance problems.
He now has all Ford gas hybrid trucks.
Funny that in continental Europe and particularly in Germany diesels are approximately in 80+% of automobiles and light trucks. Also with gasoline and diesel fuel prices in Europe 30 to 40+% higher than the USA. Do the Europeans know something than we do ?
BTW: A gallon of diesel fuel weighs more than a gallon of gasoline fuel. More bang for the buck. Also diesel is much safer from a flammability and ignition standpoint.
None of that is really relevant. The issue with diesel is the emissions.
Perhaps you recall a certain European manufacturer that found a novel way around that?
Hey Nate:
This in vogue emissions thing with vehicles and any IC engine for that matter is totally getting out of hand.
What about all the methane sewer gas emissions from the vent pipes on the roofs of the bazillion commercial, residential, and industrial buildings, and homes, along with sanitary sewer vent stacks and methane gas vent holes in manhole covers releasing toxic methane fumes into the atmosphere.
Raw sewage methane gas is a much bigger toxic pollutant than motor vehicle exhausts.
Some municipalities are utilizing this raw sewage methane gas to fuel IC engines running electric generator sets.
How about the bio methane gas being discharged from the bazillion sewage settling and filtration ponds.
And environmental freaks talk about digestive methane discharge from livestock. ???
It's turned into Bizarro World.
Oh I agree completely. They want to drive around in EV cars, but get on planes and fly from one coast to the other. Maybe take a cruise.
Somehow not noticing any issue with that.