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    • #38252
      yabadabadoo
      Participant

      GM has retired the Pontiac brand for a reason, so it can invest and build its other brands, this recipe is and has been very successful. We will all miss the brand but it was in decline for a long time and lacked overall direction and was horribly managed…

    • #38924
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      Agreed. I just hope GM finds a good way to compete with the new and reborn Dodge, which is positioning itself as an adrenaline-inducing driver’s brand.

      Perhaps the passion line within Chevy is the way to go:
      http://gmauthority.com/blog/2012/01/chevrolet-concept-coupes-have-corvette-cross-flag-emblems-because/

    • #38925
      dontbelate
      Participant

      chevy is seen as a family/value brand not a drivers brand so bring on pontaic

    • #38928
      PontiacRulz
      Participant

      It only declined because GM let it happen. They made bad decisions and murdered the brand and it’s a Shame. Screw them for that.

    • #38929
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      @dontbelate That’s an overarching statement. To those who buy Sonic, Cruze Equinox, perhaps you’re correct. But not to those who buy the Camaro.

      Chevy can be many things to many people, including a mainstream maker of cars and a high-performance brand that instills passion.

    • #38939
      Brian_E
      Participant

      @ dontbelate: I didn’t know that Corvette and Camaro were family/value brands. 😀
      Also, the Sonic has a suspension tuned by Corvette engineers – at least that is what marketing info says. Sounds like affordable performance. Who else used to offer affordable performance? I wouldn’t be surprised if the people who were responsible for the GOOD things about Pontiac (Engineering, Design, R&D, etc) are within the Chevy (and maybe Buick) group now.

    • #38940
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      @Brian_E They most certainly are. In fact, it’s “GM engineering” and “GM design”. The General just moves those folks around to different vehicles/project when the time calls for it.

      In my opinion, the Sonic, Cruze, and Malibu are best-in-class when it comes to chassis tuning, ride, and handling. It’s minor stuff like this that makes a car for me.

    • #38942
      Brian_E
      Participant

      Thanks for creating the multiple discussions yabada…!!!
      Now I can have the same conversation twice. :))

    • #38943
      yabadabadoo
      Participant

      Ha, a little redundant I know…

    • #40233
      Dinkus_McG
      Participant

      Yes, should return and if it does. I will be the 1st one at the door trading my G8 for another; perhaps a GXP if they make one. There is plenty money there, the cars that I want are not in the GM line up.

    • #512974
      ThePontiacLovah
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      They were a niche market ALWAYS STAY HOPEFUL
      how many threads do I have to say this to? this is # 3

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