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yes i have heard of the 442 and i do know what it stands for. i also know that there has been cars with the numbers denoting the horsepower (original gt500) what I’m saying is that those specific numbers on a chevy generally stand for 427 cubic in. now it could still be the 427ss if it had the 427 engine.
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@chevytothemax I was just saying it doesn’t have to be 427…it could be numbers that represent horspower, cu inch or what ever else this car may have to appeal to the new buyer.
@Grawdaddy Tradition…a time honored practice. That is what I think GM should be all about. As far as new names…Gm has a lot of names they could use…names with a tradition behind them…start with Impala or Bel Air or any other name they have in there library. A new name? Sounds good but they could end up with a name like Commodore. You prbably like that one:) -
@ Rick
A tradition is anything anyone has ever done more than once. Period. That includes things like bowel movements, turing lights on and off, using your turn signal, and complaing about the weather.
Here’s the biggest offending statement I’ve read this week: “Tradition…a time honored practice. That is what I think GM should be all about.”
No, GM is a automaker, not a fond memory factory of a time from 50 years ago. GM needs to make cars for the world IN THE PRESENT, not mear shadows of poorly built barges of the past that the world at large doesn’t want.
What you’re confusing GM with is not automaker, but an old dusty photo album grandma keeps on the coffee table. If you want tradition, I suggest your visit her.
As before, screw tradition and screw the old namesplates. That also extends to the Commodore nameplate. It’s already in place and doesn’t need to change. If it were to die tommorow, there would be no need to resurect it 20 or 30 years from now for the sake of a petty “tradition” of the weak.
Holden can keep the old Commodore name, it isn’t hurting them (yet). As for the SS and as I’ve said before, N^4.
New muscle.
New names.
New history.
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@ Grawdaddy
Wow…I am not going into a rant about bowel movements and the weather! But, The biggest offending statement you read this week was me using the Webster II Dictionary and their definition of TRADITION.
Now let me try to bring you into the 21st Century about GM and tradition…GM has traditionally been an automaker of cars that are dependable transportation! GM has traditionally been an automaker of cars that are competatively priced. GM has traditionally been an automaker of automobiles with good designs (although they could use a little help on the Impala and SS). GM has been a traditional automaker that listens to the consumer. Values consumer input into the design, economy and pricing of the cars of the future. And, because of all this tradition GM is the #1 seller of automobiles in the world. Don’t be afraid of, “an old dusty photo album grandma keeps on the coffe table” traditionally she keeps some real jewels in there! N^4 must stand for…negative views 4 you. -
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I don’t know guys. I like the simplicity of Chevy SS… and @oldchevyman48 those are interesting suggestions — but seem much more complex than needed.
Now, @Rick — when you say that “GM has traditionally been an automaker of automobiles with good designs (although they could use a little help on the Impala and SS).” — have you seen the SS? Obviously, design is highly subjective, but given the fact that no one has seen the SS just yet, I’m skeptical as to your opinion in general.
That said, I find the Impala nothing short of beautiful.
And in regards to this:
“Values consumer input into the design, economy and pricing of the cars of the future.”Taking the feedback of your customer base and/or potential customers can be healthy, but doing so blindly is anything but. There’s a reason most of us are not engineers, designers, and system integrators. That biggest reason for that, I believe, is because we are limited by what we know and have seen, whereas true professionals in the industry know what’s possible. Moral of the story is that consumer input should be taken at face value and should not drive a company; doing so is a surefire way to eliminate innovation.
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@Alex…Yes I’ve seen the camouflaged SS (pictures on the internet)…it looks like another version of the Aussie Commadore. Hendricks motorsports has several that they are testing for Nascar. Win on Sunday sell on Monday! Impala and SS very similar in design… my opinion.
GM does not do anything blindly. Consumer input is very important…Consumers told GM that the Aztec sucked! They still built it and it is now considered one of the ugliest cars ever built! No one gets it right everytime! Don’t worry about eliminating innovation, GM will do just fine…even if some of us “gearheads” give them our opinion…! Yes, they do need help on the design of the SS and Impala. Not edgy enough…too blaahhh! They already look like rental cars!
Chevy SS can apply to any Chevy with an SS…Cobalt SS is a Chevy SS. I like the way you thinking oldchevyman48! Just SS is “over” simplified! -
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@Rick So we’ve determined, once again, that styling is subjective.
You may not like the styling of either of the cars we’re discussing, but I love both. Now what? B-)
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@oldchevyman48 The GoAuto report doesn’t seem to bring anything new that we didn’t already know here:
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2012/05/vf-holden-commodore-refresh-to-bring-lighter-weight-improved-production-efficiency/ -
@alex & @oldchevyman48 Now we wait until we can take them out for a test drive!Which reminds me, I once dated a girl who was not very good looking (Impala /SS design) but she sure could….dance: – )
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@Rick Indeed! 🙂
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