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    • #38264
      TonyK
      Participant

      What is going to be the real difference, other than chrome and price, between the 2013 Terrain Denali and the 2013 Terrain SLT2? What will the Denali offer that the SLT2 won’t?

    • #39641
      Z15
      Participant

      Here is what i can find that the Terrain Denail will have that the SLT2 won’t

      Grille, Denali-specific with satin chrome surround
      DCS NEW! Mirrors, outside heated power-adjustable, satin chrome
      UFG NEW! Rear Cross-Traffic Alert
      AH8 NEW! Seat adjuster, passenger 8-way power and power lumbar
      UFT NEW! Side Blind Zone Alert
      NEW! Sill plates, front illuminated, Denali specific
      NNC NEW! Steering wheel, 4-spoke leather-wrapped with wood
      QDT Tires, P235/55R19 all-season, blackwall
      1 – Included with (RBM) 4 – 19″ x 7.5″ (48.3 cm x 19.1 cm) Denali
      specific wheels only.
      RV6 NEW! Wheels, 4 – 18″ x 7.5″ (45.7 cm x 19.1 cm) Denali-specific
      1 – Included with (LEA) 2.4L DOHC 4-cylinder SIDI engine only.
      RBM NEW! Wheels, 4 – 19″ x 7.5″ (48.3 cm x 19.1 cm) Denali-specific
      1 – Included with (LFX) 3.6L V6 SIDI engine only

    • #39650
      TonyK
      Participant

      Thanks for your research. I thought I had read in their initial announcement that the ecotec 4cyl would be available. Any mention of that? Also, are all of the options, except where you mention, available on either the 4 or 6 cyl models?

    • #39651
      Z15
      Participant

      The data I seen from GM only mentioned the 2 engines list above being available.

      Yes, those options mentioned are available on the Denali not matter the engine except for the notations shown on wheel and tires size.

      Here look for yourself…url=http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/

    • #39652
      Z15
      Participant

      Engine for 2013
      http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/proddesc.jsp?year=2013&regionID=1&divisionID=2&type=0&vehicleID=12483&section=engineAxle&page=5&butID=3

      Found another Denali exclusive
      FE2 NEW! Suspension, Enhanced Ride and Handling

    • #39671
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      Here’s our official RPO Central article on the 2013 Terrain and 2013 Terrain Denali:

      http://gmauthority.com/blog/2012/04/2013-gmc-terrain-gets-denali-trim-intellilink-with-nav-rpo-central/

    • #39725
      Vic1212
      Participant

      I just don’t know why they don’t put rear air conditioning on the Nox/Terrain.

    • #39729
      Babersher
      Participant

      I know, even the freakn camry has it, but the malibu doesnt, let alone a cuv

    • #39734
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      This is all thanks to the fact that the Equinox/Terrain is a compact CUV masquerading in midsize clothing. What needs to happen is a new compact crossover (like Escape/Tiguan/CR-V/RAV4/Tucson/Sportage) and a new midsize one (Edge, Highlander, new Santa-Fe)… with real features of a mid-sized family vehicle (such as rear-seat A/C).

    • #39739
      Vic1212
      Participant

      Because even the Edge don’t have one either!! I suppose all the compact crossovers don’t have it(maybe some but not all).

    • #39742
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      @Vic1212 The Edge does have rear AC vents.

    • #39746
      Vic1212
      Participant

      oh oops…. but then again the Terrain is Edge’s competitor so they should offer it.

    • #39747
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      After driving a 2012 Edge this week, I would classify the Edge as being in a different class than the Terrain. Basically, the Edge was made from the ground up on a midsized chassis — and it shows while driving, more than anything. The Terrain and Equinox, meanwhile, have similar dimensions as the Edge but have that compact car feel… in driving, and in options/features as well as luxury amenities/niceties. Soft-touch materials, more interior room (from similar dimensions), and a ton more luxury options…

      See, I think the problem is that GM still considers the Equinox/Terrain to be compact crossovers — and treats them as such; instead, it should remake and reposition its crossovers by class (compact vs. midsized) — and utilize appropriate architectures. A Malibu/Epsilon derivative for a mid-sized crossover, and a Cruze/Delta derivative for a compact one.

    • #39757
      Vic1212
      Participant

      I, too look at the Edge before buying the Terrain. But what turns me off is that my goodness gracious it’s hugely expensive ($40 grand for a midsize I can just buy a Lambda triplets or the Flex) and the legroom is much shorter than the ones in the Terrain too! And to me this is a problem with Ford is that Ford is a mainstream car company so that means trying to keep cost as lower as possible. But right now for a top of the line Edge costing more than 40 grand I can just spend a little much to buy the MKX and I think that’s the problem of Ford and Lincoln trying to differentiate each other.

    • #39759
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      Yeah, the Edge can get up there in price. But I’m of the opinion that you get what to pay for.

      For instance, you can get an EcoBoost Edge with much better materials, push-button start/hands-free entry, the huge moonroof, reclining rear seats, and HIDs — vs. the Theta pair — for right under $40,000. Drop the EcoBoost and some of the luxury options and you’re down to a reasonable $32,000. Even in the base trims, you get a true midsized crossover that feels and drives like one. And that’s not to mention that the current Edge is aging and will be moved to the new Fusion/Mondeo platform in the next 2 years (to market).

      Also, we can’t really compare the current portfolio of Lincoln products until the entire line is redesigned and re-engineered by 2016… Until then, all Lincolns are are just badged up Fords with some niceties, which doesn’t reflect the future of the brand.

    • #39764
      Vic1212
      Participant

      True…. as of right now the only model in the Lincoln lineup is the new MKZ that’s coming out. I do like how they have the big sunroof that extends all the way back to the rear and looks nicer inside. That car compared to the ES that’s coming out it makes the ES look bad (IMO). But until then, I just hope that GM can hurry up and make the midsize crossover platform to production. But then again I have two questions for you Alex, If the LaCrosse/XTS/Impala gets rear air conditioning on the back, how come Regal/malibu don’t have any?? And is the CD3 platform going away?

    • #39765
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      Yeah, GM either needs to move Theta to midsize or modify Epsilon and Delta for midsize and compact crossovers, respectively.

      CD3 is going away, being replaced by the global EUCD/midsize architecture starting with Fusion/Mondeo/MKZ and next-gen Edge.

    • #39766
      Babersher
      Participant

      I would say throw out theta, use epsilon for mid size and delta for compact cuv. both great and established ad perfect sized platforms. A winning formula.

    • #39783
      Vic1212
      Participant

      hmm I really want to know if the new malibu is a disappointment because like every comparison test that I saw with the eco model it always gets the 6th place (in another words, dead end last)….. I mean is it really that bad?? Like jesus christ Even camry and Sonata is doing better.

    • #39784
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      @Vic1212 It’s as far from a disappointment as Earth is from Pluto. Remember they rushed the Eco model and released it six months early? In other words, wait until the 2.5 and the 2.0T… and let the consumer decide with their dollar. The mags can only do so much…

    • #39785
      Vic1212
      Participant

      because the main cons that the mags have is that they think it’s really heavy, some fit and finish alignments, rear seat legroom, and the trunk space on the eco.

    • #39786
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      Those are all highly debatable!

      The fact that GM cars are slightly heavier makes them more solid on the road; I’ve mentioned this before, but Lutz even said that this was intentional on their part to bring a greater “solid” feeling to driving their cars. Conversely, look at the Hyundai line that’s as light as a dandelion — and they drive like ones, too.

      Fit and finish issue and/or with alignments? Are these not present on all the other models? I personally haven’t witnessed these, but suffice to say that even if they do exist on the Malibu, they exist on all the other class players as well.

      Lastly, the trunk space — as you know — will change when the naturally-aspirated Malibus comes to market.

    • #39788
      Vic1212
      Participant

      all I wanted to see is that Malibu be on the top three in sales.

    • #39789
      Vic1212
      Participant

      But i will say this, I begin to wonder if these magazines are starting to get biased like CR

    • #39790
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      I think some magazines are beginning to forget why people buy midsized mainstream sedans. And once the car is selling in full force (with all options/engine configurations), there will be no keeping it out of the top three, at the least.

    • #39792
      Vic1212
      Participant

      I think it’s probably because they tested too much supercars. But I want to ask for your opinion Alex, do you think putting the cargo shade on the back of the Terrain would be helpful with the air flow so that it wouldn’t get soooo hot in the back??

    • #39793
      Babersher
      Participant

      I dont know about air flow, but the cargo shade will definitely make it cooler.

    • #39794
      Alex Luft
      Keymaster

      Yeah, I’m not sure about airflow, but it definitely will keep the cargo area cooler. Not sure by how much, but cooler for sure.

    • #39798
      chevtothemax
      Participant

      ^^^ thread hijacked

    • #39805
      Vic1212
      Participant

      And then maybe put the air flow to the foot area then buy the fan?

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