Re: Who thinks it’s time to start talking about Pontiac again?

@Grawdaddy:

1. GM is an American company, isn’t it? That’s why I lay emphasis on GM’s traditional American brands. It has nothing whatsoever to do with “xenophobia.”
2. I would define a “traditional GM brand” as one that BEGAN in the US. That simple. No homework required.
3. Did Opel begin in the US? I don’t think so. Saturn did, so yes, I would consider Saturn to be a traditional GM brand. By the way, shortly after Pontiac was murdered, a post was made featuring bar graphs illustrating the sales of GM brands. The ONLY brands featured were Chevy, GMC, Pontiac, Saturn, Buick, and Cadillac. I don’t remember HUMMER being listed. Perhaps THOSE brands that were listed, should be considered traditional GM brands.
4. HOW can you “assure” me that Pontiac was perceived “negatively” by people outside of North America? And HOW can you assure me that if Pontiac WERE sold outside of North America, people wouldn’t find it appealing?
5. Elvis isn’t coming back because dead people CAN’T. Dead car brands CAN.
6. I don’t “look down” upon SAAB; I simply don’t CARE about it.
7. I’M being a dick? YOU are a dick for CALLING me one. And I invite other people on this thread to weigh-in on that one.
8. I would imagine that Chevy is more blue-collar than Pontiac; you have your signals crossed.
9. I have SIX “officially-licensed die-cast” Pontiac models. Not a ONE of them came with a free tin of Skoal.
10. Not everyone was interested in Pontiac V8s, but not everyone is interested in ANY one thing. So what’s your point?
11. If I recall correctly, you’ve criticized Pontiac on this thread for being a Chevy clone, and now you say that “if Pontiac had gotten its act together, it would have become more of a Chevy clone.” You’re making no sense at all, and you’re contradicting yourself.
12. YOU are the one who started talking about Pontiac V8s. I’m simply about the brand returning, with V8s or not.
13. You say it was a mistake for GM to emphasize sportiness for Pontiac; that GM “could have moved Pontiac into a more better, more stable long term sales position.” And how, pray tell, should GM have done THAT?
14. I have an ’84 Pontiac, and all it needs right now is a new carburetor. Not bad for a 28-yr-old car (and that’s the original carb that it has right now). Otherwise, it’s quite reliable.
15. I didn’t say that Pontiac will return tomorrow. But however long it takes, I plan to keep pushing for it.