“car and driver or motortrend mag i get has a zl1 camaro, a 2013 shelby gt500 or a charger/challenger srt8 on the front cover. muscle cars are huge”
Those aren’t even muscle cars, those are pony cars.
“obviously performance cars are in because cadillac, and buick both scrapped their old man reputadion in favor of a younger, sportier image.”
Hence why they command a premium. Because the average buyer just wants reliable, affordable transportation. If they want more, Cadillac and Buick are there to serve the demand of a few.
“i can tell your not a car guy”
Can you now? A few words from someone you hardly know and think you have it all figured out?
“because you think everyone should be driving in a shoebox with wheels to get from point a to point b.”
Or rather that is what historic consumer trends have shown. People see cars as tools of transportation arising from their NEEDS and not as an object of consumer demand based on DESIRES.
Feel the weight those two words I’ve capitalized for you: NEEDS and DESIRES.
Basic transportaion is a need for many. 150hp 4-pot FWD compacts satisfiy a vast range of people’s basic NEED for transportation and at difference price points AND in nearly every automotive market on earth.
Performance cars are a desire for a few. 450hp V8 RWD large coupes satisfy a tiny fragment of car buyers DESIRES in select markets around the world. Their price keeps them out of the hands of many and their shortcomings make them undesireable to even fewer people. As such, their R&D costs keep them well and truly beyond any hope of making them affordable for the masses.
“you probly think its a good idea if we just scrapped cars alltogether and ride around in wheelchairs with batteries.”
No. I just think that in the future, cities will do away with cars or have little need for them as city populations continue to increase. Over half the people on earth live in cities, and nobody is going to put up with gridlock for much longer. What this means for GM in the long term is that they need to become a transportation company, not a car company. But that’s another topic for another time.
“thats why your lame and shouldnt even be posting on this fourm, because you have no taste in cars.”
Said they guy who thinks Pontiac and its fabulous G3 should come back.
Furthermore, I don’t really much care if Mr. Luft agrees with me or not. It’s not something that I or him are losing sleep over, and I very much doubt that he cares either. Same deal with Moanalua, but even I know he’s not going to keep bad blood over a disagreement with me on a car forum.
What this shows is that you’re getting “butt hurt” because I’ve poured cold water on your outdated worldview. And since you can’t exercise emotional stability, you’ve decided to lash out like a toddler who’s thrown his toys and broken them.
So here’s the best thing you can do right now, hotshot. Put together a working argument for Pontiac that fits the 21st century and not the mid 20th century. Make it work and make it meet the needs and demands of people today, not from 50 years ago.
Because I really don’t think you have it in you to defend Pontiac.
