how are you going to tell me muscle cars dead? are your serious or joking? i cant even tell anymore. every other car and driver or motortrend mag i get has a zl1 camaro, a 2013 shelby gt500 or a charger/challenger srt8 on the front cover. muscle cars are huge. srt is even thinking about bringing back the barracuda. im just talking about muscle cars here, not even performance cars as a whole. obviously performance cars are in because cadillac, and buick both scrapped their old man reputadion in favor of a younger, sportier image. i can tell your not a car guy because you think everyone should be driving in a shoebox with wheels to get from point a to point b. you probly think its a good idea if we just scrapped cars alltogether and ride around in wheelchairs with batteries. thats why your lame and shouldnt even be posting on this fourm, because you have no taste in cars. im pretty sure toyota has a section in their fourms about the new prius line, maybe you would fit in better there. because your only friend here is alex.