@alex Calm down, just because they can make money with 4 brands in NA doesn’t mean they are good enough to handle another brand on their plate. I personally don’t care that GM made a profit. I’m wealthy and I have everything that need so in the grand scheme of things. GM’s profit doesn’t matter to me and the fact that I’m happy is what matters not GM’s profit. My happiness is not dependent on Pontiac however, I personally would be more leaning towards Pontiac being sold however I know GM won’t do that. They don’t want someone who is smart enough to deal with Pontiac to make a competitor out of it and start eating away from GM’s business. No I didn’t look at the thread because this all irrelevant to my point. I’m looking for another car right now that has a manual and RWD. I wonder what could it be……..