Back in February, General Motors announced a new partnership with Tesla that would provide GM EV customers with access to the Tesla Supercharger network. The plan originally outlined early access to open as soon as Spring of 2024, but access was later delayed. Now, GM states that it expects GM EV customers to have Supercharger access later this year, although no specific date was provided.
“GM continues to work in good faith with Tesla to finalize an agreement that offers a seamless Supercharger network experience for our customers,” General Motors stated, per a report from The New York Times.
At present, the only non-Tesla brands with access to the Tesla charging network are Ford and Rivian, although many of these owners are still waiting for the adapters required to plug in. The Supercharger network utilizes the North American Charging Standard (NACS), a charge type original developed by Tesla. GM announced last year that it would transition to the NACS charging type by 2025.
The Tesla Supercharger network includes nearly 30,000 quick-charge plugs, but remains largely inaccessible to non-Tesla EVs. According to The New York Times, the delay is due to software problems and hardware shortages, although some speculate that Tesla CEO Elon Musk may be reconsidering the decision amid declining sales.
Contrary to the speculation, Tesla recently announced that it was producing roughly 8,000 adapters per week at its factory in Buffalo, New York in order to provide non-Tesla EVs with access. Indeed, Tesla stands to profit by opening its network to non-Tesla users by charging a fee for use, plus the sale of adapters. However, the company still risks alienating existing customers, who previously enjoyed exclusive access to the network, a perk that will likely be missed as more and more EVs hit the road.
With limited accessibility to the Tesla Supercharger network, as well as a slowed pace in new Supercharger installation, the overall adoption rate for all-electric vehicles could be in jeopardy, given the availability of public charging remains a major barrier for prospective buyers. In response, some Ford and Rivian owners have turned to third-party adapters, although manufacturers warn that non-approved adapters may come with some safety concerns.
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Soooooo, nothing new. 😅
Dissapointing
Just want to know when does GM start shipping with NACS port in the cars?
Also, why is the only source for the adapters from Tesla? They published the specs via the standard, certainly someone else could be manufacturing adapters?
Through leaks from GM, they are also sourcing the adaptor from Lectron, they may also source it from A2Z have to see.
There is movement, lots of testing has been observed and recently the Terms and Conditions for using the Adaptors on Tesla’s network has shown up on OnStar’s website.
Access to Tesla Destination Chargers is available if you have an adapter for Tesla plug (NACS) to J1772. This is an option found at hotels/motels/businesses in various locations.
This adapter is not for the Tesla Superchargers, but is an option where the Tesla Destination chargers are located. I purchased an adapter from Lectron (Lectron Tesla to J1772 EV Adapter | 250V | 48 Amp $139) in May and recently used it to charge my 2024 Blazer EV to 100% overnight (at the Crown Plaza Atlanta SW in Peachtree City GA) for $0.25/kWh. Although this is a slower charger, it was great for an overnight charge; very much like charging at home. Just had to download the Tesla app, add a payment method, plug in the Tesla plug to the adapter, plug the adapter into your vehicle, scan the QR code located on the side of the charger, and voila, you’re charging!
Don’t hold your breath. “Working in good faith” means GM is very frustrated, and likely believe Tesla is NOT working in good faith. GM can’t say too much because they’ve already promised their customers supercharger access, but I have a strong feeling this is all going to blow up.
I suspect native NACS adoption will be delayed by at least a couple years as well.
A delay could work to Tesla/Musk short-term profits, but not long-term. I expect commercial chargers will in the future have NACS and J1772 cords. In time, that will cut into Tesla’s charging profits, and in 2-3 years Tesla will be increasingly dependent on charging profits as there is more competition in EV’s from all the vehicles producers – Tesla will no longer be the only game in town. And keep in mind that GM made billions of profits last year, and very little came from EVs. GM can sell EVs at cost and still make billions. Musk can’t do that – he has to sell at a profit. On the other hand, the execs at most car companies are rationale people, where Musk is kinda borderline….
This is a strange situation, from a business standpoint. GM has already promised this to the public. Tesla stands to make more $$ from this every day; AND Tesla has already given access to other manufacturers like VW, Volvo and even Ford. So, I don’t get what the issue is. Maybe someone can tell me what I am missing here. Seems like a win/win for everyone.
Musk in a fit of rage fired the entire team responsible for superchargers and charging deployment. And had to rehire some of them back. It’s caused a lot of delays with NACS adoption.
I have heard that the delay is caused by the negations on dividing up the charging income between GM and Tesla. GM wants more $$ for “giving” Tesla access to all the GM owners and the profit potential. Right now it’s just a pissing contest to see who can get the most.
Does anyone know the split deal Ford has with Tesla?
Sounds about right for GM CEO Mary EmBARRAsing…
I think this whole NACS thing is an unnecessary MESS.
CCS1 was the agreed upon standard years ago.
The newer Tesla superchargers ALREADY have adapters to charge CCS1 CARS.
When the 2025s come out with NACS jacks there will be a slew of existing chargers that can’t be used without a backwards adapter. Which no one makes.
With all the problems GM has with their vehicles it is childish to open up another manufactured totally unnecessary problem.
You can blame Tesla for the NACS thing, trying to pushe their plug as the standard.
When it happened my first reaction was, well, this is a way to delay others and slow down EV adoption for a couple years as the mess gets sorted.
But Musk wanted access to the federal grant $$ for expansion of charging infrastructure.
Without it, their charging business was about to be irrelevant with thousands more CCS stations built by competitors.
There are CCS to NACS adapters. Tesla sells one of course.
Nonsense revolutionary. Unless you just don’t get it.
Just went on shop.tesla…
$50 adapter goes the wrong way. You must not be paying attention.
Not for fast charging. Good for Tesla wall boxes but not 510 amperes Steve’s Lyriq requires.
The CCS1 combo adapter is $125. No specs of this device.
Probably cannot do 800 volts either.
Didn’t edit in time.
CCS1 combo adapter is $125, which can’t do anything above 500 volts, doesn’t work with cyber truck, and some Tesla x or 3 require $Hundreds of conversion.
Since Tesla can’t make this thing transparent to their own stuff good luck getting GM stuff to work with it .
Steve V. Must have deleted his comment
We have Silverados at work and using the EV Go network for charging is a crap shoot compared to the tesla superchargers (we’ve had model 3s for almost two years, just started getting the Silverados a couple of months ago).
I’ve literally NEVER had an issue charging the Tesla, the last three times I’ve charged the Silverado I’ve had to try two or three different chargers (in the same location) before I found one that worked. One thing I don’t understand is how it makes any sense for Tesla to open their charging network to other manufacturers. It’s taking away their competitive advantage and I don’t see how they benefit.
Tesla benefits by charging an extra 10 cents per kWh for non-Tesla vehicles to use their superchargers.
EV Go chargers near me are $0.69/kWh, plus $0.99 connection fee if you don’t pay for a monthly plan. Even charging ten cents more the Tesla super chargers would still be cheaper.
So…next year. Probably. Maybe.
EVGO chargers at flying j – pilot are, including tax, 68 cents/kwh
ChargePoint is a few cents more.
Tesla is a few cents more than ChargePoint ..
Since NACS current limitation is 500 volts, no point in buying the GM founder or high priced editions of anything with 800 volt charging.
Your fancy GM can do 800 volts and your EVGO can do 800 volts but your NACS adapter cannot….
What a joke !
Note to WD whose comment hasn’t appeared yet.
“Tesla had CCS1 converter for years. A solved problem “.
Yeah but since it has a 500 volt max rating, all the money spent on superduper GM 800 volt charging option is totally wasted.