GM will be the automaker hardest hit by the Biden administration’s proposed new fuel economy standards according to the American Automotive Policy Council, with The General said to be likely to rack up $6.5 billion in penalties by 2033.
The other Big Three automakers are also expected to pay ten-figure amounts but not as much as GM, with Stellantis estimated to pay $3 billion and Ford $1 billion in penalties during the same timeframe, Reuters reports.
“Alarming” penalties are attached to the new Corporate Average Fuel Economy or CAFE standards according to the American Automotive Policy Council, which represents the Big Three. The organization notes the potential new rule disproportionately punishes American automakers versus foreign companies selling their vehicles in North America.
The largest penalties likely to apply to a foreign automaker are the slightly more than $1 billion in fines to be paid by Volkswagen by 2033 if the new CAFE standards are adopted, with the rest of overseas vehicle manufacturers paying less. Due to certain details of the new rules, compliance expenses per vehicle are estimated to be $546 for foreign companies and $2,151 for GM, Ford, and Stellantis.
In particular, the new standards will sharply reduce the Petroleum Equivalency Factor for EVs, meaning each EV model will count for less in calculating a company’s overall average fleet fuel economy. The Sierra Club and other environmental organizations lobbied for the change in 2021 on the basis that “excessively high imputed fuel economy values for EVs means that a relatively small number of EVs will mathematically guarantee compliance.”
The new rules will not only heap the biggest penalties on American companies like GM, but will “reward those auto manufacturers resisting the transition to a fully electric future the most,” the American Automotive Policy Council argued.
The Council earlier described the new fuel economy standards “unrealistic.” It claimed the added cost per vehicle would simply drive Americans to use older vehicles or continue driving currently owned vehicles longer, defeating the purpose of the regulations by encouraging utilization of older, less fuel-efficient cars.
The NHTSA proposal includes a requirement for an annual increase in fuel efficiency of 2 percent for passenger vehicles and 4 percent for trucks starting in 2027. As a result, required fuel efficiency would climb to 58 miles per gallon by 2032. Simultaneously, the lowered MPGe rating of EVs under the new formula would make it harder for GM and other automakers to achieve this average fuel efficiency, even by producing more electric vehicle models.
The NHTSA has not yet responded to the latest commentary on the proposed CAFE standards by the Big Three, though it previously dismissed concerns by saying making more EVs is a viable solution for avoiding penalties.
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The “Big Three” should consider reintroducing a few cars back into their lineups. Small SUVs and CUVs are less efficient than the cars they replaced.
I think you’re missing the point though.
Alex G: Although I really dislike both Honda and Toyota, I still give credit where credit is due. Kudos to them both for still offering some cars and promoting them as well. So I couldn’t agree more with your comment. And yes, especially on here, you will get tons of thumbs down for saying it, but it’s true and needs to be said.
Go ahead and let GM and the others pay these fines. They can take it out of the massive profits they make selling the exact same vehicles (trucks and SUV’s) that is putting them in this place. And I laugh at GM now as you see the push for PHEV’s picking up steam because they now see how important they are in the transition to EV’s. They had the best PHEV on earth (Volt) and killed it when they should have kept improving it and putting it in everything they could.
Dan, unfortunately the added cost will not be taken out of the massive profits they make. It will be passed along to the consumer by raising the price of their vehicles.
Zuc: I hate to burst your bubble, but most of the vehicles being sold today are ICE with a much higher MSRP than a lot of EV’s. Your comment is silly at best and obviously just trying to get a reaction. I’m not a “rich lib” and I drive an EV that had an MSRP of $28,315.
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Zuk and Bill replies: So now you’re moving the goal posts and trying to change the narrative? In my response to Zuc’s comment, I simply pointed out a FACT that many popular selling ICE vehicles (Tahoe, Yukon, Silverado, F150, Explorer, Ram, XT6, loaded Honda Odyssey, and the list goes on…..) sell for more than many EV’s (Bolt’s, Model 3, Model Y, Mach E, C40 and XC40, and so on…..). Don’t take my word for it, look them up yourself. Nowhere did I say or was anyone speaking about the price after any tax credits. Nobody talked about them losing money or not. You are correct that many are still losing money, but that’s not what we were saying. Yes, many may feel the tax credit is not appropriate, and that would be a good conversation if that’s what we were having.
But the fact is that my Bolt EV had an MSRP of $28,315.00 before any tax incentives. So to be fair, take a comparable equipped Chevy Trailblazer and they are about the same price. Point clearly that what Zuc said was silly at best and they were only trying to start an argument they couldn’t back up.
Now, if you wish to have another conversation about tax breaks and/or loss leaders, then let’s do that. You may be surprised that we would probably agree on a lot there.
Homeless guy: I wouldn’t disagree with you on that. But then lets drop any and all tax breaks the big oil companies get. Let’s drop any and all tax credits for all foreign companies (Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc, etc) for them to set up shop here. And I didn’t call the ICE “nasty”. I personally own two older Cadillac’s and I have no problem with them.
What I do have problems with is these companies pushing big trucks, SUV’s, CUV’s, AWD, huge sunroofs, etc, etc on me and others who don’t want them. I have a problem with the few telling everyone else that we all need massive HP and mega fast vehicles at the cost of better MGP’s. I have a problem with the big oil companies manipulating the prices by any lame excuse they want to tell us.
Well toyota sold over 500,000 Corolla and Camry models last year in the us alone. Look up car sakes by toyota and Honda alone. Huge.
That’s a pretty good offset.
Ever wonder what gm could do if it was managed like Toyota with a more reasoned approach, like for example hybrids instead of all or nothing on battery go carts.
No. Electric or nothing.
Old Mary will be long gone when this hits the electric fan 5-10 years from now.
Sad for the employees. Glad I’m gone. What a disaster.
Wow. Interesting how so many comments just seem to disappear on this site. There were a lot more under this one, but gone.
I certainly don’t agree with many of the comments made, but as long as they stay civil and stay on subject, I think they should be kept on here. Otherwise, it loses purpose and commenting on here is futile. If there were one or two comments that got out of line, then remove those and not the entire bunch.
Just my opinion.
Yes DanB, It’s common on the GM Authoritarian site. Disagree with ole Ed and you get censored. After all, Mary might be mad that you don’t go along with her program of company self destruction.
No cars, drive thru any parking lot and count the detroit 3 cars. A few old ones kicking around like beaters, a million kias, Hondas, Toyotas. Etc.
Mary doesn’t associate with riff raff driving cars. She also doesn’t like someone calling out her rich friends like zuc, bill, soros etc flying around in their private jets while telling you not to drive your truck.
Watch this comment disappear. The so called GM authoritarian doesn’t like any comments that Mary doesn’t like. May not get any more suburban s to drive for free. That’s the catch on any site like this. There’s no real journalism. It’s a fan boy site for GM groupies and Mary toadies.
Get on the bus or mugway. Your days of driving are coming to an end courtesy of EV s priced out of the normal persons income. Cap and trade, no oil exploration, social engineering at its finest. How much thought for what the customer wants or can afford. Not much. Just drive this battery car or else.
Read this quick, or the thought police will delete it. How Orwellian. You think ole Ed would realize he’s playing right into the censorship of the dems. Tells you all you need to know without asking.
Yes, and who decided what’s out of line?
Anyone that’s watched this site realizes that plenty of comments get censored. Or as “Ed” says, spam comments.
Don’t go along with the program? You’re spam.
Noticed this a long time ago. Not going to change. They have been looking for an editor for years , most likely in charge of censorship.
So where do these fines go? Seems to be a just a hidden tax again on US Citizens. We never see this money. It used for stupid pet projects. All this will change again when a new administration who does follow the goofy scientist about the fake impending doom of the earth.
I beg people to vote for the person who has good policies for the USS not because they are nice or don’t hurt your feelings.
I’m sure the “big Guy” is getting his cut…..lol
The fines go to the government, but credits can be bought from other automakers that are below the CAFE threshold – these credits are market based, but always less than the government fines. GM chose not to pursue this option in 2022 and paid the full amount to the government.
They will just pass this on to the consumer.
You are 100% correct! Every item that GM sells from new vehicles to windshield wiper fluid will be increased so that the consumer pays this fine and not GM.
I hope consumers are finally getting to see what kind of scam this is. Numbers pulled out of their donkey as to tell them how many miles they should be getting. Follow the science….oh wait…there isnt any!!!
Sorry Joe. That’s over. The masses or at least 60% of them, are voting for free stuff that you the working man will pay for. No thought to the country or any drivel like that.
Nobody is buying cars. Only trucks and suvs
Ken: Nobody stocks or promotes cars. Only trucks and suvs. See the pattern there?
Earth to Ken. Drive thru a parking lot. Filled with Korean, Japanese branded cars. Millions.
Just no detroit three models.
Just stupid planning by Mary’s band of Mary’s girls running GM. Fords dunderheads with their 90 mile towing truck for 100k and the inmates running the asylum at stellantis or fca or whatever they’re called this week.
GM Could Pay $6.5 Billion In Fuel Economy Standards Penalties By 2033 – GM will not pay… customers who will buy its products, yes, cars, trucks, SUV’s, spare parts will pay and so will its stockholders.
GM is blaming the Government for its failure to plan and design/manufacture vehicles that are fuel efficient, demanded by the buyers. Where is the advanced materials engineering that would reduce the weight of the behemoths? Why does a 2023 Camaro weigh 4,000 Lbs? 800 Lbs more than its 1970 counterpart. Anyone at GM hear of using carbon fiber, aluminum, other alloys or composites to reduce the gross weight of the vehicle, while retaining safety of its occupants?
Why has not GM figured out that there is direct correlation between energy required to propel a vehicle its mass? Reduce mass by 1,000 lbs and no longer need 400 HP to that beastly heavy vehicle.
GM could easily reduce the weight of its vehicles and meet the CAFE standards, if it is serious and determined to do so.
Please check the price of carbon fiber. Have you heard of crash standards they have to be met and all the safety in a car, like airbags? They all add weight. All automakers try to remove weight, and it’s one of their big goals when engineering a new vehicle.
And the 1970 Camaro didn’t have 5 MPH bumpers, it didn’t have side door guard beams, it didn’t have a ton of emission equipment, it didn’t have a catalytic converter, it didn’t have power seats, it didn’t have heated and cooled seats, it didn’t have a 10 speaker sound system, it didn’t have nav, it didn’t have two or three command modules, it didn’t have cruise control, it didn’t have power locks & mirrors, it didn’t have eight air bags, it didn’t have electronic ABS & traction control, it didn’t have a rear view camera and blind spot sensors, it didn’t have a heated steering wheel, it didn’t have 10″ wide tires on 20″ diameter rims, it didn’t have IRS, it didn’t have etc, etc, etc. The fact that the current Camaro only weighs 800 pounds more then the ’70 is nothing short of a miracle when you figure how much more content the car has now, a large portion of it required by Federal regulations. Heck, the current Camaro probably has 800 pounds more wiring in it then the ’70, just to connect together all the modern comfort features and emission equipment. Oh, and by the way today’s Camaro is far faster, handles way better, stops better, is much cleaner and is far more fuel efficient!
I really love when clowns blame GM for not designing and manufacturing “vehicles that are fuel efficient, demanded by the buyers”. GM is building exactly what people want. It wasn’t that long ago when people were on here blaming GM for building too many cars and not offering enough CUV’s. Mr Biker Clique 01 you were probably one of them. GM is in business to make money, they aren’t making CUV’s, SUV’s and trucks because nobody wants them, they’re building them because that’s what they can sell.
In order to meet the proposed 58 mpg of NHTSA all ICE cars and trucks will need to weigh much less. For example, carbon fiber bodies would save a lot of weight versus steel. Ford switched to aluminum bodies to save weight on the F150’s, at an increased cost. But carbon fiber is really expensive, adding thousands of dollars to the price of each vehicle. And the costs to consumers will continue to go up with increased insurance premiums to repair carbon fiber bodies.
Sales will plumet and people will keep driving old vehicles that are less fuel efficient.
Ernie A: This all goes much deeper than that. Yes weight is a large part of it and yes a lot of that weight comes from meeting safety standards. But in a quick and simple way, let’s look at the other elephant in the room: Power/performance/speed/towing capacity increases. When I was a kid growing up on the farm, we didn’t see and have the huge trailers they have now. Everything is growing in size (in tandem with the American people). The side by side recreational toys, motorcycles, etc. Instead of horse riders going camping the old fashion way and taking a smaller trailer with two horses, they now have a 30′ trailer for two horses but with luxury living quarters in the trailer. My point in all this is that with the increases in the size/weight of everything comes the need/desire for more and more power. This requires new tech along with good old engine size. And for heaven sake the soccer parents take their kids to/from school in a reasonable sized efficient car. No. Now it’s Tahoes and bigger just to haul 2 kids and a few basics.
I’m sure you see my point. This is getting worse every year and it’s totally making it’s way into the EV world. You know, because it’s not about efficiency but how f-ing fast you can go to 60 MPH and racing everyone to the next stop light. This country needs a huge reset and fast. The only way I can see that happening is with gas prices at or above 6 bucks a gallon all over the nation.
No, they just can’t burn gasoline.
ITS ONLY IN THE U.S. AMERICANS HAVE TO HAVE THE BIG BOATS. ITS A PRESTEAGE THING.I THINK GAS STATIONS SHOULD HAVE A SCAN GUN AT THE PUMP SCAN YOUR VIN # AT PUMP IT ADJUSTS PRICE TO WHAT TYPE OF VECHILE IT IS. I YOU WANT TO DRIVE A GAS GUZZLER YOU CAN PAY A HIGHER PRICE.IF YOU DRIVE A MORE SENSIBLE WAY OF TRANSPORTATION YOU PAY LOWER PRICE ACCORDINGLY.
Well, first, if you are burning more gas, you are already paying more at the pump and therefore also more taxes. Second, your way of thinking sounds really fascist. How about people get to decide what works best for them and what they want? If you want an EV, great. If you don’t, great.
Ruining the planet with carbon emissions isn’t just fascist, it’s completely reckless and stupid.
Biden and the administration are raising the standards to eliminate ICE period, so they threaten to fine the automakers. Biden and the Global elite think they can mandate people to trade in their ICE for EVs. It’s not going to happen by 2033. This green push will bankrupt the automakers. There are over 31M ICE vehicles in the US. Every day I am on the highway whether in the city or on the interstate and while looking at the volume of vehicles, anyone with common sense realizes our electric grid, and charging network and the people will not be ready accept or to transition to all EVs in the next 20 years. With the current state of the economy, the ongoing inflation, interest rates, people living paycheck to paycheck along with the highest credit card debt in history, buying a new car is not on the top of their list. Wake up America.
The Biden administration alone is not to be blamed for the CAFE standards. These fuel efficiency standards have been rising for the last thirty years. IE: decades, and every administration since Carter. Greater fuel efficiency requirements have greatly improved internal combustion engine technology. Look at the Horse Power improvements using fewer cubic inches.
Well,when you sell your soul to the devil “GOVERNMENT” you evidently have to pay.
Understand there is NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING! Binden is telling Americans to get rid of their gas stoves,
gas furnaces for their homes, air conditioners, etc. Telling us what kind of light bulbs to use, etc. I don’t remember giving him that power. I must have missed it in our Constitution. Throw this Crooked Dictator out!
“Understand there is NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING” – what credible scientific studies are you basing this on? I’d like to read them.
How about COMMON SENSE !
Common Sense? You’re kidding right. Since when is common sense an acceptable scientific proof? Ice caps and ice sheets have shrunk. Sea levels have risen. Average global temperatures have risen. Droughts and rivers and lakes have dried up. Show me the credible scientific studies that prove that global warming doesn’t exist. If you can’t then STFU and go away.
It’s happening because of NATURAL OCCURENCES. Been happening for a million years and will continue to do so.
Agreed, but not at this vastly accelerated rate. Again, show me the credible scientific studies that prove the pollution that we pump into the environment is not a cause.
Scientific Proof ? What caused the Ice Age, what caused the Big flood for Noah’s Ark, why did the Dinsaurs to become extinct. Get out your HISTORY Book and then you can STFU !
Don: I think the nut house left the door unlocked again. Common sense and proof means nothing to people who say things like they are. I could probably cite their “sources” for the info they are saying, but then we all know where it’s coming from already.
LOL. I think you are right Dan.
I used to look at scientific data to make my decision but not any longer. All of the data today is not being analyzed to produce the real truth or findings. The data is being manipulated to meet the people in power narrative. Case in point. Look at the way the vaccine was handled. It will prevent you from getting Covid. You won’t die if you get the vaccine or boosters. The same with masks and the use of Ivermectin. All proven wrong. Studies from around the world now prove the vaccine is causing more deaths than Covid. Masks don’t work and Ivermectin does work as an alternative drug. Botton line, research the scientific data and make your own decisions using common sense. It is sad to say but do not believe our government or associated agencies.
You’re not up with the times. I lived through the “Global Cooling” hoax , The “Global Warming” Hoax and so now they call it climate change.
Hmmm., Maybe they should just call it “Weather” . Anybody ever notice that this “Climate Change” happens most when sunspot activity is hign or low every couple of years and is very predictable.
Just follow the dollar and you’ll see exactly where climate change is. I’m sure this post will get the lefties attention.
We must have gone to the same college. I remember be handed a flyer on the coming ice age in about 1971. I guess that didn’t work so now let’s say it’s climate change. That covers cool or warm.
I wonder what happened a billion years ago to form the Grand Canyon? Climate change from Fred Flintstones suburban. Maybe Mary’s jet.
Where’s the climate report from that era?
NHTSA allows big semi trucks to use re-cap or re-tread tires that fly all over the highway putting motorists in harm way. At the same time they use all their resourses going after air bags inflactors that no one cares about but them. These derbies from these tires are more harmful to motorists than anything on the highway. Until NHTSA can stop big trucks from using re-cap tires NHTSA can go to —-
This will be my last post on this as NO ONE has been able to provide any credible scientific studies that show that man has not contributed to global warming. I will leave you with these FACTS.
What is global warming?
A. Since the Industrial Revolution, the global annual temperature has increased in total by a little more than 1 degree Celsius, or about 2 degrees Fahrenheit. Between 1880—the year that accurate recordkeeping began—and 1980, it rose on average by 0.07 degrees Celsius (0.13 degrees Fahrenheit) every 10 years. Since 1981, however, the rate of increase has more than doubled: For the last 40 years, we’ve seen the global annual temperature rise by 0.18 degrees Celsius, or 0.32 degrees Fahrenheit, per decade.
The result? A planet that has never been hotter. Nine of the 10 warmest years since 1880 have occurred since 2005—and the 5 warmest years on record have all occurred since 2015. Climate change deniers have argued that there has been a “pause” or a “slowdown” in rising global temperatures, but numerous studies, including a 2018 paper published in the journal Environmental Research Letters, have disproved this claim. The impacts of global warming are already harming people around the world.
What causes global warming?
A: Global warming occurs when carbon dioxide (CO2) and other air pollutants collect in the atmosphere and absorb sunlight and solar radiation that have bounced off the earth’s surface. Normally this radiation would escape into space, but these pollutants, which can last for years to centuries in the atmosphere, trap the heat and cause the planet to get hotter. These heat-trapping pollutants—specifically carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, water vapor, and synthetic fluorinated gases—are known as greenhouse gases, and their impact is called the greenhouse effect.
Though natural cycles and fluctuations have caused the earth’s climate to change several times over the last 800,000 years, our current era of global warming is directly attributable to human activity—specifically to our burning of fossil fuels such as coal, oil, gasoline, and natural gas, which results in the greenhouse effect. In the United States, the largest source of greenhouse gases is transportation (29 percent), followed closely by electricity production (28 percent) and industrial activity (22 percent). Learn about the natural and human causes of climate change.
How is global warming linked to extreme weather?
A: Scientists agree that the earth’s rising temperatures are fueling longer and hotter heat waves, more frequent droughts, heavier rainfall, and more powerful hurricanes.
In 2015, for example, scientists concluded that a lengthy drought in California—the state’s worst water shortage in 1,200 years—had been intensified by 15 to 20 percent by global warming. They also said the odds of similar droughts happening in the future had roughly doubled over the past century. And in 2016, the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine announced that we can now confidently attribute some extreme weather events, like heat waves, droughts, and heavy precipitation, directly to climate change.
The earth’s ocean temperatures are getting warmer, too—which means that tropical storms can pick up more energy. In other words, global warming has the ability to turn a category 3 storm into a more dangerous category 4 storm. In fact, scientists have found that the frequency of North Atlantic hurricanes has increased since the early 1980s, as has the number of storms that reach categories 4 and 5. The 2020 Atlantic hurricane season included a record-breaking 30 tropical storms, 6 major hurricanes, and 13 hurricanes altogether. With increased intensity come increased damage and death. The United States saw an unprecedented 22 weather and climate disasters that caused at least a billion dollars’ worth of damage in 2020, but 2017 was the costliest on record and among the deadliest as well: Taken together, that year’s tropical storms (including Hurricanes Harvey, Irma, and Maria) caused nearly $300 billion in damage and led to more than 3,300 fatalities.
What are the other effects of global warming?
A: Each year scientists learn more about the consequences of global warming, and each year we also gain new evidence of its devastating impact on people and the planet. As the heat waves, droughts, and floods associated with climate change become more frequent and more intense, communities suffer and death tolls rise. If we’re unable to reduce our emissions, scientists believe that climate change could lead to the deaths of more than 250,000 people around the globe every year and force 100 million people into poverty by 2030.
Global warming is already taking a toll on the United States. And if we aren’t able to get a handle on our emissions, here’s just a smattering of what we can look forward to:
Disappearing glaciers, early snowmelt, and severe droughts will cause more dramatic water shortages and continue to increase the risk of wildfires in the American West.
Rising sea levels will lead to even more coastal flooding on the Eastern Seaboard, especially in Florida, and in other areas such as the Gulf of Mexico.
Forests, farms, and cities will face troublesome new pests, heat waves, heavy downpours, and increased flooding. All of these can damage or destroy agriculture and fisheries.
Disruption of habitats such as coral reefs and alpine meadows could drive many plant and animal species to extinction.
Allergies, asthma, and infectious disease outbreaks will become more common due to increased growth of pollen-producing ragweed, higher levels of air pollution, and the spread of conditions favorable to pathogens and mosquitoes.
Shat caused the Big flood for Noah’s Ark? It’s a story in a book. No Scientific proof.
Why did the Dinsaurs to become extinct?
One of the most well-known theories for the death of the dinosaurs is the Alvarez hypothesis, named after the father-and-son duo Luis and Walter Alvarez. In 1980, these two scientists proposed the notion that a meteor the size of a mountain slammed into Earth 66 million years ago, filling the atmosphere with gas, dust, and debris that drastically altered the climate.
However, other scientists maintain that the evidence for a massive meteor impact event is inconclusive, and that the more likely culprit may be Earth itself.
Ancient lava flows in India known as the Deccan Traps also seem to match nicely in time with the end of the Cretaceous, with massive outpourings of lava spewing forth between 60 and 65 million years ago. Today, the resulting volcanic rock covers nearly 200,000 square miles in layers that are in places more than 6,000 feet thick. Such a vast eruptive event would have choked the skies with carbon dioxide and other gases that would have dramatically changed Earth’s climate.
Don: Very well stated and thorough. But too many words only makes those denying the reality lose interest and instead go back to listening to that one network that sounds like box. haha.
We can’t call it global warming, because when it gets cold outside they come back and say see, it can’t be global warming because the temps are very cold.
We can’t say climate change because they then think we are talking about the change of seasons.
About the best way to speak about this is by pointing out that (like you did) the weather patterns have changed for the worse. Dry is getting drier. Wet is getting wetter. Places that would normally be warmer are having more cooler weather. Places that normally have cold seasons are having warmer ones.
They can’t explain away the reality of what’s been going on, so they instead resort to repeating non-factual information that they heard on the box network.
Very disappointing…I don’t see a chapter in the white paper above with a detailed discussion of continental drift, magnetic pole shifts, or more recently, deforestation…and their respective impacts to climate change over time.
The problem with demanding studies in these arguments is that data collected is inherently incomplete for geologic timelines/prehistoric times, and the data that is collected is subject to interpretation…and therefore not conclusive.
Also, just to nitpick one item above, it’s probably more simple & accurate to just say that the dinosaurs died off due to Earth’s cooling…i.e., more rapidly than they could adapt, and regardless of the cause if the cooling…I would just like to thank them for their sacrifice, and any contribution to the oil/gas that I enjoy using in my cars today.
Lastly, re Noah, all I’ll say is that I’m glad he doesn’t have to do that job today…back then you could grab two animals and have the genders covered…that would certainly be a tricky assignment today.
Isn’t there a character limit to Dons epistles.
READ ABOUT THE TONGA VOLCANO THAT NO ONE TALKS ABOUT THAT IS CHANGING THE WORLD GOOGLE IT
Large volcanic eruptions can inject large amounts of sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere, causing the formation of aerosol layers that reflect sunlight and can cause a cooling of the climate. In contrast, during the Hunga Tonga–Hunga Haʻapai eruption this sulfur was accompanied by large amounts of water vapour, which by acting as a greenhouse gas overrode the aerosol effect and caused a net warming of the climate system.[73] One study estimated a 7% increase in the probability that global warming will exceed 1.5 °C (2.7 °F) in at least one of the next five years,[74] although greenhouse gas emissions and climate policy to mitigate them remain the major determinant of this risk.[75]
Gee,How many millions of years have they been erupting ?
By 2033 the new green deal will just be another Democrat wet dream and gone by the wayside…just like Biden. Nobody will pay any fines.
The OEMs produce and sell the vehicles that customers demand! The state wants to regulate!
Politicians are demanding that OEMs force customers to buy small vehicles! Now BEV and ICE with PHEV are less CO2 intensive according to CO fleet consumption, but extremely toxic in production!
So what does the state and these authorities want from the OEMs by 2033?
They won’t get any money because the OEMs are now building extremely heavy vehicles, regardless of whether they are BEVs or ICE-PHEVs, which are always 50% heavier than the same ICEs! Progress??? NO! Eco no never! The customers are being ripped off!!!
Look at Europe, especially Germany, and then notice how politicians want to control the population with BEVs and ICE-PHEVs! The funny thing is that in Germany the heavy BEVs and ICE-PHEFs are 99% subsidized by the state with tax money.
What is particularly weak is that the ICE-PHEVs are mostly driven by customers (users) on the ICE alone! You could also say that the customers are intentionally screwing over the OEMs and the state. And what is the German state doing? he is subsidizing more and more heavy SUVs weighing over 5000 pounds!! Eco-insanity legalized?
Well Noah’s ark was powered by an LS engine or maybe a big block. They threw the Vega engine overboard as an anchor.
Today it would have a melted down lithium battery pack, dead battery, and the animals wouldn’t be happy.
Oh, as mentioned before the censors got to it, cancel all taxpayer funded credits for EV’s and we will see whether GM is building what the public really wants or if the demand is created by tax credits.