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Don’t Hold Your Breath For Second-Gen Cadillac CT6 In America

Although the Cadillac CT6 full-size sedan exited the North American market at the end of the 2020 model year, the full-size sedan continued to be sold in China. In fact, GM released the second-gen Cadillac CT6 in the Chinese market for the 2024 model year, prompting GM Authority to ask our readers if they thought the all-new CT6 should be sold in America as well. The answer was an overwhelming yes. Regardless, CT6 fans shouldn’t hold their breath waiting for the second-gen Cadillac CT6 to arrive stateside, per comments made by Global Cadillac Vice President John Roth.

The second-generation 2024 Cadillac CT6, exclusive to the Chinese market.

In a recent interview with GM Authority Executive Editor Alex Luft, Roth was asked, “any chance of us getting the CT6 here [in America]? Like the second-gen that was revealed in China?”

Roth’s reply: “Nothing to announce right now.”

Luft: “So to Cadillac in the U.S., the E sedan segment is dead?”

Roth: “Nothing is ever dead in the automotive business.”

Despite Roth’s “non-answer,” Luft got the impression that GM and Cadillac have no plans to bring the latest second-gen Cadillac CT6 to the Americas. However, just last month, a whopping 94 percent of GM Authority poll-takers voted that they think GM should sell the CT6 in America (roughly 1,300 votes total), while in another GM Authority poll conducted in 2018, 43 percent of poll-takers expressed interest in buying a new Cadillac CT6 if it was imported from China.

GM Authority previously laid out the business case for bringing the second-gen 2024 Cadillac CT6 stateside, arguing that GM was already importing the Buick Envision, a higher-volume vehicle with lower profit margins. In addition, we think the twin-turbocharged 3.0L V6 LGY gasoline engine would make a great option when it comes to powering a hypothetical U.S.-spec second-gen CT6. Even the pricing, set at 359,700 yuan to 469,700 yuan, or roughly US$50,000 to US$65,000, is on the money here.

Unfortunately, it looks like no such consideration is being made at GM currently.

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  1. It seems GM is on the fence about sedans.

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  2. I’ll believe the poll when people put down a 10 grand NON refundable deposit. Talk is cheap. Market said there was no market when it was available. Nothing has changed, well except now the only powertrain is a 4 banger, so even less in the US would buy. The only excitement in the US was around the TT engine and even that had abysmal takeup. Remind me, how many did they sell?

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    1. Not only is it only a 4 banger, its coming from China too…..much prestige.

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  3. I own 2-CT6’s and would trade my 2017 for a second gen sedan. I will not buy one of the fugly CUV/SUV’s or the compact CT4 or CT5. Forget about an EV as we travel and drive more than 300 miles in a day. There is still a market for a full-sized sedan in the US. Look at Toyota, Mercedes and Genesis.

    We ordered our 2020 Premium Luxury AWD, AWS Super Cruise sedan and our 2017 Premium AWD, Super Cruise. We get comments all the time about what a good-looking car it is and are asked where they could get one. If the CT6 is brought back, GM/Cadillac need to MARKET the car like they do all of the pick-ups, CUV and SUV models. When do you ever see marketing for the Chevy Malibu? Make that NEVER. Not all buyers want a truck or a high hip vehicle because they are hard to get in and out of. Watch elderly people struggling to get into and out of a CUV/SUV or a pickup. Driving them and parking them is a whole other story.

    Bring the CT6 back with the 3.0 V6 and a V-Series.

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    1. To be fair, my parents (both in their mid-70s) traded in a sedan on a Buick Envision. One of the reasons why is because they found it much easier to get out of (and, to a lesser extent, to get into). Sure, that’s just one sale and is hardly a trend, but as much as I may not like it, people are buying CUVs and SUVs for a reason.

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      1. My parents switched to minivans for that reason.

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        1. What about everyone else thats not 76 years old and can still bend down? Are we also all forced to get SUV/cross over/minivans too?

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    2. I am 76 and we went to an Equinox because it is way easier to get in and out of by a long ways. I love the looks of the GM sedans, but it is so hard to get in and out of one.

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    3. The CT6 was nice, but not widely appreciated in these times. 10-15 years earlier, it would have been a hot seller in a very different climate. The current market is simply just too small in North America.

      Contrary to your belief, most elderly people find it much easier to get into and out of SUVs and the like, rather than sit/fall down into and have to climb/crawl out of a low sedan. SUV door openings are much larger and the ingress and egress is far easier overall.

      Setting up an assembly line, even a flex line that can assemble multiple models such as the old Hamtramck plant was utilized, just to build a “handful” of CT6’s doesn’t make good business sense at all.

      The volume of annual sales determines whether any model will remain in production, not the likes of a “few” die-hard model lovers. It’s all about the numbers and they tell the true story. Unfortunately over the years we have lost some nice looking and performing vehicles, simply because the numbers no longer added up.

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    4. BTW…I am 73 and can still bend down as I also drive a 2001 Corvette C5 Convertible. The CT6 does NOT require a person to bend down to get into it. The CT6 has a higher hip line than other sedans. My wife has rheumatoid arthritis, and she has issues with the high hip vehicles (CUV/SUV & mini-van styles).

      I have 2 younger sister-in-laws who went to high hip vehicles and both struggle to get in them and they have no problem getting into our CT6’s, in the back seat I might add. One has a Lexus SUV (what a POS) and the other has a 2-year-old Chrysler Pacifica that is rusting away in front of her face along with the dealer having it more that she has. It is on its 4th or 5th transmission.

      Many of us still want our full-sized luxury sedans. I have driven both a CT4 and CT5 as loaners and I had issues getting into them. My Corvette is easier than they were.

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  4. Honestly, I just scratch my head at the machinations inside GM. Does anyone have any sense of the market? With the ultimate loser (CELESTQ) on their doorstep, they turn a blind eye to the back-up….really?

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  5. Second issue…. don’t even talk to me a out another sport ute (Envision) as a substitute for the mid-level Cadillac. The Wildcat gave some hope…despite $hit roofline… but I just don’t see any direction here at all. You might as well go back to the moronic Dutchman that screwed Cadillac’s best-ever design theme.

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  6. Please don’t believe in polls. The CT6 barely sold 10,000 cars per year from 2016 to 2020. It is Hardly worth building. GM was correct in getting rid of it. Cadillac cars lost their way many years ago, with bad engines and designs, and have never recovered. All the luxury foreign cars took over and they let them. They should rename the division Cadillac Truck Division. That’s where their sales numbers add up.

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    1. Bad design? Matter of opinion of course but the reason the CT6 failed was mainly a half-hearted attempt to turn it into an F segment competitor but was settled as an E segment competitor instead which was crowded with the XTS and CTS that played the same segment at that time. It was lousy marketing at best with all three playing in the same market. If you want to combine all the sales of the CTS, XTS and CT6 at that time on the monthly basis, the volume came close to the Mercedes E class and BMW 5 Series. IMO, Cadillac don’t need all those sedans because each were walking on top of one another. They only need one great car at that time between the CTS and CT6 and would had succeeded with either one of them.

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      1. The CT6 is not a bad design at all. I am talking about decades ago design along with engine and transmission problems that everyone in those times remembers. The dealers got mad at Cadillac for sending them junk and ruining their business. That was the start of the downfall and opened the door to foreign luxury cars.

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  7. GM should offer the Chinese built CT6 as a market and sales test befire building the CT6 locally. And please design and produce an electric CT6 sized sedan for those of us who cannot pay for a Celestiq.

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    1. They already did that This is the result USA told GM they didn’t want a CT6 by looking at the numbers.
      Calendar US China
      2017 10,542 11,917
      2018 9,668 17,223
      2019 7,951 22,637
      2020 3,117 21,689

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  8. I guess the Chinese people rate over the us people.

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    1. They’re a growth market. We aren’t.

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      1. Not anymore. The Chinese economy is collapsing.

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        1. True, though their car-buying habits aren’t as ingrained as ours are.

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    2. Remember that GM in China is a different company, owned by the Chinese with GM as a partner. Some decisions are not made in Detroit.

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  9. Chevy, Buick and Cadillac. One of them needs the large sedan. Buick has no cars in the USA.

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  10. Cadillac made its bones selling big, comfortable sedans to Americans. I think it sucks that Cadillac is walking away from the customers that made it successful. Catering to the Chinese market at the expense of a loyal American customer base is a mistake that will bite them on the ass. I hope GM and Cadillac management realize it before it’s too late.

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    1. As per my comment to one other person…remember that GM China is a different company than GM USA. It is cChinese owneed and run by the Chinese government. Gm in the USA is not making the critical decisions…except (hopefully) to agree to directions that would other wise screw them,.

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      1. Not to mention look at the specs and amenities of the Chinese CT6. Id rather have the last gen chevy impala. Cadillac in china is stripped down almost spartan

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  11. It is terrible that Cadillac is not faithful to Cadillac enthusiasts, unlike BMW and Mercedes who continue producing their big sedans. They are much more understanding of the need to support and continue developing their large sedans. Therefore they have made their own market where the people running Cadillac forgot us.

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    1. Cadillac is going to be making Eight EV’s
      Three Sedans
      Three CUV’s
      and Two full size SUV
      Thats Eight EV’s for Cadillac and a lot of faith

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      1. What about the 96% of buyers that don’t want an EV?

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    2. Did you buy a CT6 when they were selling them.

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  12. Is it all about your profit margin GM in regards to importing American vehicles to the States?.. What happens to those of us who purchased GM cars over the past decades and made it what it was?.. Did the Chinese mkt.do that?.. NO! Cadillac has a heritage commitment to America to sell all Cadillac models here… Now GM get to it!!

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    1. When time came to purchase a CT6 they stopped production here in the States!.. Was hoping to buy a refreshed version that never happened here!

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  13. The C-Pillar and back kind of reminds me of the late Impala on the sides to be honest.

    I don’t want the car to be imported here for nothing if the Blackwing engine is no longer in development with only two engine options with the NA and twin-turbo V6s. Too me that is going backwards without offering a V model and pricing being reduced by $10K-20K less as a starting price and that will indicate that the CT6 was not a success and GM mismanaged the car in the first place for the first generation model.

    Do we need to fill a gap between the CT5 and CELESTIQ? Yes but we need cars between the E and F segments that are ahead of its time and far superior than the CT6 where the general public sees the want factor in them.

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  14. GM should build a sedan with V8 power (CT6). I believe people would go for it. I had to go to Chrysler 300C for a V8 sedan w/ 485 HP, and it’s a beast. I’m 72 and still love my gas V8’s. Always will.

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    1. And this is the last year for the 300C or Dodge Charger, at least in their current forms.

      I love my V8 sedans as well (currently have a Pontiac G8 GT), but, sadly, they are a dying breed and do not sell in volume.

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  15. Too bad. Cadillac has a lot of potential in this segment. But NOT with this car as it is.

    It’s not good enough to compete with the S/7/A8/LS/G90. It’s a fine car, but not at that level.

    With that in mind, it’s better to not offer anything at all, rather than something like this that’s uncompetitive that will fail. I just wish Cadillac made a real effort and understood what it took to compete….

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  16. The driving reason that it won’t be imported to the U.S. … it’s not electric. GM has committed Cadillac to new vehicle launches being all electric. The only hope for something similar filling this segment is an electric offering that Cadillac is cooking up. Note how Roth said nothing is ever dead. He could just as easily be hinting at a new electric sedan on the way.

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  17. I voted “yes” because I would like to SEE that beautiful sedan in the US. However that is not to say that I could afford to actually BUY a CT6 if it would get here.

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  18. Yes, Cadillac needs to make the new CT6 available in the US market. I don’t want an SUV! … and I don’t want a foreign car either!!

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  19. The Chinese CT6 doesn’t fit Cadillac’s upcoming EV line-up. It’s actually a positive thing. Clearly, Caddy’s resetting and Standard of the World looks to apply to all US models across the board, not just Celestiq. And CT6 is just not good enough to compete with the Germans, never mind rising above. What replaces it should be a stunner though.

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  20. Well, if they don’t want a CT6 here, in the States, they can kiss my butt twice.

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  21. Build a big Caddy (coupe and sedan) again only with the LS V8 motor in it this time! Back to the glory days! Just don’t try to market it for $110+ grand again. Give the foreign-made luxo-cruiser competition something to really worry about this time! Enough trucks already! All the Caddy EV market will sort itself out only when the charging infrastructure and better batteries finally arrive years from now. GM already has all the parts and engineering available ‘on the shelf” to build a killer ICE coast-to-coast dream cruiser with power, comfort, fine handling, and an established network of American dealers in place ready to sell and maintain it.

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    1. Agreed. We drove Cadillac Fleetwoods for many years. Then it was the DTS. Our current Caddy is a CT6 with a V6. Not too bad but certainly not the luxury of our previous Caddies. The Northstar V8 in our DTS was great. Good gas mileage and plenty of power.

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  22. I currently have a 2019 XTS and 2019 CTS V-Sport. Both have the venerable 3.6 L naturally aspirated engine. Both are dead shot reliable, quiet and get 30 miles per gallon on Long Highway trips.

    I am asked all the time where people can buy an XTS and. unfortunately, have to tell them 2019 was the last of its kind for this beautiful luxury cruiser. Having driven the four cylinder and six cylinder turbo charged current models, I much prefer the naturally aspirated engines.

    These are my fourth Cadillacs and probably my last. I plan to keep them for a very long time.

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  23. Lower case gm vacillating pondering and unsure of itself again. There is still a market for a traditional large luxury ICE powered sedan for private customers and commercial interests.

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  24. If GM would pull away from the “Government Teat” of electric vehicle incentives and actually unleash its Cadillac engineers to do what the Corvette engineers did with the C8, then they would be the “Standard of the World”, but as it stands they prefer corporate welfare and to produce Ev’s.

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  25. You knew about the screw up on your motor I’ve already had to buy a motor for my GMC Damn near $10000 for 1 And now that I have it display so when it goes into V44 cylinder I punch it so that it goes back in the eighth so it doesn’t blow the motor So that means I can’t use cruise because they going to be foremold and it’ll blow the damn engine being a traveler that kind of sucks

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  26. To be honest this vehicle with the exception for the Cadillac face, this “Cadillac” looks like it could have been the RWD Impala GM was too scared to build over 1mpg difference between the FWD and RWD Impala platform.

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  27. The direction the US automakers are going is force Americans to buy what they don’t want and not give us what we really want. Wake up! Your freedom is getting taken away little by little. It’s import for me going forward. Brand loyalty went out the window.

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    1. Speaking of freedom, the orange carrot vowed to govern like a dictator next time… Wait until your real freedoms are taken away.

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  28. I AM 87 AND HAVE A XLR AND A XTS AND HAVE HAD 2 CADILLACS IN MY GARAGE ALL MY LIFE. AFTER I BOUGHT MY XTS THEY CAME OUT WITH THE CT6. SINCE I HAD JUST BOUGHT THE XTS I WAITED TO GET A CT6 PLATINUM. BY THE TIME I WAS READY THE CT6 PLATINUM’S WERE ALL SOLD. I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A USED ONE FOR SEVERAL YEARS. IF I DON’T FIND ONE I WILL DRIVE MY PRESENT CARS UNTIL I DIE AND KEEP MY MONEY IN THE BANK. I WILL NOT BE GETTING ONE OF THE NEW ELECTRIC CADILLACS, BECAUSE MY DEALER HAS SEEN THEM AND SAID THEY WERE ALL SMALLER.

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  29. When they sold the CT6 here, how many of you complainers owned one? The numbers I listed in a previous comment show how low the sales numbers were. Salling 10,000 units one year. And most years are really low. Does this data not prove people did now want a CT6? That’s what you told GM.

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    1. Not me. I bought two CT6s. GM should not have been selling the XTS at the same time.

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