New Proposed EPA Emissions Rules Are A Challenge For Automakers
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The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) recently issued a proposal for new emissions rules requiring stronger internal combustion engine emissions cuts, demanding 13 percent yearly reduction in emissions and a 56 percent cut by 2026 over the whole fleet.
Multiple automakers are now protesting the proposed ruling according to Reuters, claiming the emissions rules timetable is too short to be met by the current available supply of EV components.
The EPA’s aggressive proposal appears calculated to drive more rapid electric vehicle adoption. The new emissions rules would push 60 percent of the U.S. new car sales to EVs by 2030 and to 67 percent just two years, according to the EPA’s own projections.
GM, Hyundai, Toyota, and Volkswagen, represented by the Alliance for Automotive Innovation, countered that multiple factors make the targets from the new emissions rules very difficult to implement. These include resistance to EV adoption by U.S. car buyers, along with the hurdle of obtaining enough EV batteries, motors, and chargers in the indicated timeframe.
The new EPA emissions rules would create “significant impacts to automakers, workers, consumers and ultimately the availability of vehicles that meet the needs of individuals, families and businesses across the country,” the Alliance for Automotive Innovation said.
The automakers previously agreed to aim for 40 percent to 50 percent electrification of new vehicle sales in the U.S. by 2030. President Biden’s subsequent executive order set 50 percent as the target. The new proposal raises the bar further, but some environmental groups say the new emissions rules are too lax and should be even more stringent.
The Alliance notes the “proposed rules effectively require an additional 10-fold sales increase in a mere eight years” for EVs. GM says 2023 is a “breakout year” for its EV plans, and intends to introduce 30 new electric vehicles worldwide by 2025. Additionally, The General claims it will have EVs in one third of automotive segments by the same date. The segments it’s aiming for are the most popular, accounting for 70 percent of vehicle sales each year.
Other GM electrification plans elimination of all tailpipe emissions from its new light-duty vehicles by 2035. It expects 40 percent of its U.S. models to be battery electric by the end of 2025. GM has also earmarked $35 billion in investments for new EV programs and autonomous vehicle technologies through 2025.
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The EPA under brain dead is cracking down on the auto industry and Americans for the environment, but yet has allowed 6.3 million illegal aliens and gave over 170 billion to Ukraine for war. I bet you the amount of damage those weapons are doing to the environment is terrible. Not to mention the drain on resources the illegals will create. Questionable elections have consequences.
Why not blame the Russians who started the war for destroying the environment. You make it sound like Ukraine is doing something bad when they are defending their country. Biden and the democrats have many faults but helping Ukraine isn’t one of them. Remember all the help the US got after 9/11 from many European allies including Ukraine.
SpacePolice – the Russians don’t run the EPA. Also it’s our tax dollars that is funding this war. I don’t remember this happening under the last President.
No, Trump was making the most perfect phone call to Ukraine ever. As HE tried to get Zelensky to start a BS Biden investigation, and refused Military Arms until one was started. Fortunately Putin didn’t attack until after that POS lost the election. Now he spends his time bellowing about rigged elections, while many of his fanatics are doing prison time for being morons. Or as Trump likes to say, ” the most beautiful morons ever, no one has ever seen a bigger bunch of morons” as he laughs his ass off.
Our supplying arms (using our tax dollars) to a country willing to help destroy the Russian military as well as economy is brilliant. The Ukranians are doing an excellent job as our proxy warriors destroying Putin while defending their country. Our biggest mistake would be to cut off aid to Ukraine.
Okay, Democrat-favoring-MSM gullible dolt.
I suggest that the EPA gets defunded and that the money saved is given to Ukraine. Freedom and liberty is under threat from both Russia and the EPA. The last president was good at domestic policy but not at international. Now it is the other way around.
Hey Space, I thought the lefties/greenies/Democrats were anti-war and anti-nation building? What happened to that lie?
Space, you there?
Since I’m not a leftist, green or Democrat I don’t know the answer to that question. But I guess the threat that Russia poses to the world have opened the eyes for many people and made them realize that the freedoms we take for granted must be defended when evil forces are on the rise.
Ignoring the kickbacks to the Democrat party, why isn’t there the same pushback on China? Equally as dangerous, no?
Completely agree with you. China is equally dangerous or perhaps even more so due to the size of their population and the aggressive communist ideology they follow. We should put sanctions on all red Chinese companies and organizations and stop all imports from mainland China.
Have you been able to connect the dots between Ukraine and numerous Democrat back room deals, employment on Ukrainian companies, such as Burisma (and others), and the sudden recent interest in Ukraine overall…..especially when China sits out there unaddressed?
Russia has been a threat since before the Cold War, but suddenly, all anti-war Democrats want war via Ukraine.
Nobody in the Democrat party seems to have any real concerns about China. Why is that?
Kickbacks and payoffs, and everyone knows it.
It would be great if people on both parties could put party politics and conspiracy theories aside and just focus on real issues instead of making up fake stories and spreading them like you are doing now.
It all goes back to my original question which you wouldn’t address: why the sudden interest in war from the once anti-war Democrats?
What could it be that changed all of their minds?
Why not endless money and weapons to China’s enemies, instead of only sanctions?
What a world-class double standard.
It’s because the Democrats found their boogeyman in Putin. Not defending him in the slightest, but they certainly use Putin as a wedge every chance they get.
Textbook boogeyman.
If biden did not high-tail it out of Afghanistan like a bunch of cowards there probably would not have been a Ukraine invasion.
You’re not supposed to talk about, or notice, the massive influx of illegals, I mean future Democrat voters….
Nail meet head. Was thinking the same thing this morning.
These radical are running the show and the mfgs are between a rock and a hard place.
These radicals at the EPA are making and changing not just rules but established laws. Even if the left is voted out there is no guarantee that in 4 years they will be back.
If an automaker speaks up the media and the web attack them. They would destroy anyone to defy them.
Th3 next step is they will come after our existing ICE cars. Collector cars too. Think not they already are after the cars we race. Read up on the ROM act.
I have has to deal on the RPM act and dealt with House Members trying to pass the laws to stop them. I can understand why GM is doing EV models. It is an act of survival.
But GM is in no hurry cutting ICE models. They will be around as long as they can keep them. But they will have to do the EV models just to have a future.
“we will own nothing, and we will like it”…Klaus Schwab
Somewhere, Karl Marx is having a beer with Mao Zedong and high-fiving in amusement.
And Stalin is bringing the munchies.
As it pertains to the environment we are a minority in terms of population. So we can think we are doing our part by creating hardships for our fellow Americans. Oh in the mean time our adversary are watching us become weaker and trying to do something that will take 20 years but we are trying to do it in 5-7 years.
China with 5 times the population has a much greater EV manufacturing base than the US. Only India has a greater population that is still using cow pies to cook with.
So please explain how our adversaries are watching us become weaker. Do you base this on us trying to clean up our environment? Probably the greatest accomplishment of the Nixon administration was the EPA, because even Nixon could see the damage Corporations were doing to our quality of life with the damage to our environment. His biggest boondoggle was opening China to the world, due to our corporate greed (looking at nearly 1 billion customers and workers) as we off-shored our manufacturing and started the decline of the middle class.
Our greed created the giant that is China, the country that is challenging us militarily in the Taiwan Straights. If that candle get lit Ukraine will look like a brawl at a backyard BBQ.
Cleaning up our environment is a crock. It is not 1970 where companies were dumping waste in rivers and there were zero smog and pollution controls in cars and on factories. If these draconian and stupid policies take place, the reduction in pollution would be small. Sorry, I work hard for my vehicles and home and I am not willing to go without air conditioning in the middle of summer or wait two hours to charge my car instead of ten minutes to fill it up for the sake of maybe lowering pollution by some miniscule amount. Put these mandates in place, and what is left of US industry will simply pull up stakes and move to China, India, and Africa where there are literally no pollution controls. The net will be a world that is more polluted- including our nation- as the increased pollution from China and India will make its way across the Pacific.
And right here is how they are going to force us into all electric. The left can make any claim they want but the reality is right before our eyes and already my state is set to outlaw gas stoves, lawn mowers and weed wackers by 2025. Making unbearable emission rules in a short time is yet another way along with making us dependant on foreign oil which is costing us not only more at the pump but more for heating our homes and everything around us. The cute redistribution of wealth rule enacted May 1st punishing those like myself with good credit and scores above 740 that are in the market for a house will see yet more of our hard earned money go towards those with lower credit scores making it even more difficult to obtain your own home. To think anybody would actually support this speaks volumes how out of touch with reality so many are these days.
The real problem seems to be politicians with possibly good intentions, but more likely just wanting to get re-elected write laws from a perspective of technical ignorance. New York State just recently outlawed natural gas hookups for new construction starting in 2026 for buildings less than seven stories high. Their reasoning; methane (natural gas) is 80 times as powerful a greenhouse gas as CO2. Apparently it totally escapes them that when the methane burns, it turns into CO2 and water. Additionally, gas furnaces and gas water heaters are readily available at reasonable cost with greater than 90% efficiency. The most common power plants in the USA are gas fired and run at about 35% efficiency. As I said, laws are being made by the ignorant to placate the ignorant!
I don’t think any of these dems have good intentions- they are just virtue Signaling and appeasing fringes of the population on order to cover up their massive failures in other areas.
The people supporting this are the voters looking for nothing more than a “D” next to someone’s name.
That’s all they need, rational thought be damned.
Is this the Land of the Free or the home of the slaves?
Dissolve the EPA. Problem solved.
What a better way to control the people than to not eliminate a product but to regulate it out of existence. And they regulate business to eliminate a monopoly but yet the government can do it. High priced fuels, emission regulation, shortages rebates on EV’s. More EV’s on a questionable grid, limited range, higher purchase price, and what happens when the battery dies? But, but they are better for the earth. Really after mining for those minerals to make batteries, transporting those minerals, and what to do with dead batteries. Once motor fuels are eliminated hang on to your money, electric rates will increase to rates your can’t afford, more people control, more money in the politicians pocket, less freedom for the people .
And the government can control electricity (as in scheduled blackouts and down times) via ‘persuading’ the electric companies. Not so easy to control the oil companies.
This move could also be interpreted as an acknowledgement that current EV technology, infrastructure and raw material supplies / cost will not be able to support even the previous goal of 50% EVs by 2030 without added government intervention. By initiating these regulations now the Biden administration is trying to further embed this commitment into automaker’s long term plans in case they are voted out in 2024. It is interesting that the huge environmental impact of mining & refining millions of tons of EV raw material is not even mentioned in the same breath as the incremental reductions in CO2 driven by these regulations. In addition, the increased output of CO2 at power plants to due to the increased number of EVs has also been ignored. As C8.R has pointed out this is purely political and auto makers have little choice but to comply, however, educating others is something that all of us can do either on this forum or others. Take the time to debunk the falsehoods surrounding EVs (many of which are on this forum) and discuss this topic in a factual way with others. People are beginning to understand these falsehoods even now as evidenced by the slowing EV trend. I expect the EV proponents to respond with anger and and probably some name-calling, that’s OK, it is the facts that matter and I expect that there will also be some good points along the way.
Congress needs to stand up and say NO to EPA tyranny!
Unfortunately, we got what the majority wanted so if you voted for the current dumpster fire, thanks a lot!
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There is no way that the infrastructure is going to be ready for that many EV’s in the next few years. Maybe they can install that many charging stations that fast but I’d be surprised. The environmental groups need to chill out because the average family already has trouble buying a new vehicle. Let them put their money out there to support construction, not coming up with more restrictions. If everything is out there and it works the change will happen on it’s own.
This expensive, time consuming “better-for-the-environment” government mandated push from ICE to current technology EVs reminds me VERY much of our transition from incandescent to cfl lighting. That turned out to be very misguided, expensive and even MORE polluting. So as we are now forcing everyone to LEDs, they obviously are quite gun shy of being financially ripped off. And they are: having to throw away the entire LED light FIXTURE simply because many do not have replaceable “bulbs”. So we are creating MORE landfill clogging waste. Once again by a short lived technology that was promised to be the end-all-be-all of the future.
Hydrogen anyone?
The majority of what the lefties/greenies want is shortsighted, but it’s more important to feel good about the environment than actually long-term benefit the environment.
Why isn’t anyone talking about all the unnecessary rocket launchs ,like going in space is not even good for your health. All that fuel burnt what a waste , and by far has to be the biggest contributer to pollution. Guess people are kind of blind to it . Wars too they just suck
If EVs were truly better than ICE vehicles, they would not need subsidies and forced government mandates. Let EVs achieve their natural market penetration based on consumer preference, not moronic political regulations.
All these years ice cars have become the most fuel efficient and nonpolluting vehicles as well safe and powerful in our history .When it comes down to it some people whine ,what they really need is some education. Ev s are a nightmare waiting to happen
We should not be throwing the word environment in any of this. The environment is where you live, they are claiming this will fix the climate and we all know it won’t, climate is control by the earth. We humans may affect it by maybe 1 percent. Its sad the manufactures really have no choice. Even Elon doesn’t agree with going full EV. However this is going to be like the plastic bags, they said it would be better than using paper, well they were so wrong and they will be so wrong here again.
It’s possible that the original intent of the EPA was to do ‘some’ good, but the now-power-hungry-and-willing-to-shove it-down-your-throat bastards are running that show with little to no pushback.
Their green pipe dreams are making them unbearable and unrealistic.
The idiot in the Whitehouse is just a puppet for the crazy climate fanatics. They keep spewing their garbage because it keeps them employed. The earth was much hotter millions of years ago. It is still trying to get back to what was once the normal. Weather is not static. It has short and long cycles. Daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and by the centuries and Millenials. Get over it and let mother nature run her planet! Ruining our economy and country in the process is a fools errand. Oil is not from plants! Never heard of plants growing 10,000 ft below the surface. It comes from the core. Free and Never ending. Old wells keep filling back up years later.
The EPA should be disbanded. They have cost the taxpayers of this country Billions, if not more, dollars will little effect.