General Motors first introduced the all-electric Cadillac Lyriq luxury crossover for the 2023 model year, and production has been slowly ramping up ever since. Initial reports indicated that several thousand units of the Cadillac Lyriq were produced during the early months of the 2023 calendar year. However, Cadillac has since pointed out that those figures are in fact inaccurate.
According to a Cadillac spokesperson, more than 2,000 units of the Cadillac Lyriq have been produced so far this year, and deliveries to customers will continue to accelerate going forward. In fact, about 1,000 units were shipped during the mid-January to mid-February timeframe, according to the automaker.
As GM Authority covered previously, only 122 units of the Cadillac Lyriq were delivered over the course of the 2022 calendar year, 20 of which were part of the new Cadillac Lyriq Ambassador program, GM’s early adopters program offered to select customers that includes a substantial discount in exchange for permission to track how the customers use their vehicles.
The slow deliveries are partly the result of an intentional strategy on the part of GM to address certain teething issues for the Cadillac Lyriq. Just a few of the issues have included a fix for the Lyriq’s vehicle software management system, as well as a fix for a cracking liftgate panel and a recall for display screen issues. More recently, a fix was issued for issues pertaining to the Super Cruise system and Surround View cameras. The motivation behind the more gradual rollout is to make sure that customers receive a relatively problem-free vehicle when it is eventually delivered.
For those readers who may be unaware, the Cadillac Lyriq is produced at the GM Spring Hill plant in Tennessee, which was renovated for EV production following a $2 billion investment. The facility also produces ICE-based models like the Cadillac XT5, Cadillac XT6, and GMC Acadia.
As for the bits under the skin, the Cadillac Lyriq incorporates GM Ultium batteries and GM Ultium drive motors, while the GM BEV3 platform provides the underpinnings.
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I will admit that I saw the LYRIQ for the first time on the Jay Leno Show ,with looks and options that were quite impressive ,for the Money. But playing catch up with the new EV Giant Tesla .Is not much of a sales strategy .If only 122 units of this car were delivered in 22 , what nexted pray for 244 units in 2023 . GM has a long way to go in the EV market .Having a former Engineer as a CEO does not necessary mean she has the Foresight on how to approach the EV market . Someone who is being payed 30 million dollars to run a now some what competitive Company should not make remarks like (we will be the leader of EV,s in 2025) .Tesla will be on Mars by then .
But GM has had record profits. So her salary will suffice.
I’ve started to drive my 2023 LUXURY TRIM LYRIQ a bit more lately, as I like the car much better now that I’ve driven it a bit…… Several comments not covered so far by GMA.
– If my car’s ULTIUM 102.5 kwh battery pack is any way representative of the ULTIUM system in general, the charge rate slows down greatly after reaching 80% state-of-charge, and is about 3 kw (no misprint) at 89%.
– Unlike 180 days allowed to delay Implementation of the BOLT’s 3-year $500 Fast Charge Card with EVGO option (who – fortunately – partner with ChargePoint since there are ZERO EVGO installations in my area) allow only 60 days from date of purchase to start using the LYRIQ 2 year unlimited fast charging card deal.
(Since my Purchase Date was 4/28/23, I might as well totally use up my existing bolt EVGO card by 6/27/23, as I must accept the new card by this time, which would then expire on 6/27/25. My existing card I started 1/2 year after a june, 2021 purchase of the BOLT EUV, so this card expires 12/2024. I’m about $250 used up so far, so I basically have 44 more days to use that much up). Since the new card is unlimited, it makes sense to use that card.
The range has been somewhat better than claimed, but then I don’t drive interstates at 70 mph. A head scratcher is why a 2023 is epa listed at 312 miles and the 2024, which is the same exact car, gets 308.
– A question comes up as to why the 2023 RWD models had 80 amp Level 2 (home) chargers and the 2023 AWD models (of which few, or NONE were actually made) have 48 amp Level 2 chargers. The 80 amp Charger in my car is physically huge, and is placed where the top of the radiator would normally be. Since my vechicle is a RWD only, the huge hood area is cavernous, only holding this charger, and the HVAC heat pump plumbing (4-way valve, etc).
– The radio is good and bad…. The good part is there is less Inverter Hash on weak AM stations. The bad part is that you cannot fast forward through an individual song as you could in all other recent GM music players. The radio ‘recognizes’ Windows Media Player selections but trying to play them results in dead silence.
– On my evs, I use plain jumper cables on the 12 volt battery to run a 2000 watt inverter to power household essentials during a power failure, and also use it when camping in areas that are minimalist – that is, no electricity. The 2019 VOLT I still own is the easiest to hook up. The 2022 BOLT EUV battery may be accessed by removal of 2 restraining bolts…
This LYRIQ battery copies the dumbest of Tesla’s Ideas – namely building the fuse box on TOP of the battery, which must of course be removed to change the battery or to have big jumper cables…. There are plated ‘tabs’ to grab juice from, but I need 150 amperes minimum to run the inverter… I’ll try the tabs but I would suspect they are flimsy enough to overheat…We’ll see.
BTW, my LYRIQ was manufactured mid April 2023 as around the 3000 th one made.
But how does it drive. Everything you mention is inconsequential to most people.
Bill:
1. From what I have read and seen on YouTube (State of Charge channel) much slower and quickly decreasing charge rates after about 80% are common to prevent battery overheating. Only 3 KW seems very slow, but there are lots of variables involved most notably, the temperature. With all of the battery issues GM has had with the Bolt, they have probably set the upper end of the charge rate curve very low to prevent thermal runaway and to maximize battery life since the Ultium batteries are an unknown quantity at this point.
2. Again from my reading, the difference between the range of the RWD and the AWD not being as much as expected is mostly due to the larger optional wheels & tires. The larger diameter optional tires on the RWD have more rolling resistance and thus consume more power and currently the AWD is only available with the smaller wheels. There is also a small difference between the rolling diameters and that as well as probable differences in the power management system programming to accommodate the second motor could also be contributing.
3. The electrical service in most modern homes is 200A. If your home has an AC or a heat pump, electric stove top and/or electric oven, microwave, not to mention a swimming pool with a 2Hp pump to push water up to solar panels, your main electrical box is probably close to being at the max load allowed by code with an additional 60A breaker (for 48A max load) for a 11.2 KW charger hard wired (no plug/socket permitted) with #6 wire.
The 19.2 KW charger (80A max load) requires a 100A breaker (with the 20% code required headroom) and more expensive #4 wire in larger diameter conduit. While you can find a few 80A chargers, they are considerably more expensive than the 48A versions.
I looked at “future proofing” my new charger wiring for when we replace my wife’s car with an electric in a few years, but decided it would be too expensive and just easier to buy a charger now that will load share on the same 60A circuit with another compatible charger. The shared system would not charge each car as quickly when charging both at the same time, but we both don’t drive enough miles that sharing power will happen very often. The shared system with two chargers just limits the plug swapping. Just plug in each car and let the sharing software deal with distributing the available power according to what each car needs.
4. I can’t recall now where I read it and I suspect it was pure speculation, but it sounds logical, that GM had supply chain issues sourcing the 11.5 KW chargers for the Lyric (which is about all that a vast majority of users will ever need) but did have a supply of the 19.2 KW chargers that were sourced and standard on the Hummer. They used those since even fewer Hummers were being made at the SOP of the Lyric so it made sense to use what they had available.
My 2023 Luxury Lyriq has zero options other than the forced optional $625 plus tax black paint since its the only color available. I DID get the grey interior which is rather an off white… Not as nice as the cream colored leather of old coupe de villes but still ok.
Therefore I have 20″ non – low – profile tires which should give the best mileage.
The car drives fine for a big car (almost 3 tons).
The controls are borderline hideous but I’ve gone over all that before… The touch screen needs work as it is obtuse. Worst GM touch screen I’ve ever seen.
Super cruise is pretty good, Works as an assist which is all it is trying to do.
As far as my comments not helping most people, if you read between the lines, they SHOULD help most people in that the whole car is designed by 12 year olds. But the basic car shares engineering with the rest of GM and that saves the day overall.
I’d personally be much more satisfied with the car if you took a 2024 TECH, removed the 5g, removed the hideous huge touch screen stockbroker dashboard, and light shows and other nonsense. Switch gear is pretty horrid. Controls are not as well laid out as a typical GM EV usually is. Will have to wait on winter to see what type of heat pump system installed for winter weather… In moderate weather the system uses moderate electricity. Sketchy information in the pdf owner’s manual, in that its 600 plus pages talk all day but say nothing.
80 amp charger now basically $2,000 option. 32 amp charger like old bolts and some volts had would be a ‘standardization’ of parts, and it is all that is installed anyway by Qmerit. But now, monkey see, monkey do, theyve switched over to 48 on the 2024s and EVERY lyriq gets something other than the 80 unless u cough up the bucks.
As far as the charging that is mentioned, I have a relatively good sized 4 bedroom colonial, 2200 sq ft, Large 8′ x 10 ‘ hot tub with 3 – 3 horsepower pumps,
Central Air conditioning throughout.
All heating in the house, including the converted hot tub to gas (by me) is natural gas other than a 1,800 watt dry 3 person sauna in the mud room, and the chromlox in dishwasher. 1 hp insinkerator – slow speed commercial 3 stage model. The slow speed is so that it can work on 110 circuits. 2 or 3 hp normal speed units are for commercial kitchens, so I trade slow speed for ultimate performance.. 2 hp 220 volt commercial air compressor and 2 hp 110 volt toy sears oil-less. 5 hp pressure washer that is much more powerful than the helpieselfie car washes 3 hp. 3 hp dual stage home made snow blower.
3 car chargers for the 3 cars, plus 110 volt emergency wall box.
32, 30 and 16 amp things I installed years ago over a few years…Only people who need more are traveling salesmen and technicians who have to come home for a few hours sleep and then immediately travel another 300 miles. In my case I have at least one day’s notice for a 300 mile trip and therefore 32 amps is plenty.
64 year old 100 ampere aluminum residential service.. Converted the kitchen from all electric to all gas (gas built ins are getting hard to find), saving the juice for the large hot tub pumps, and 3 plug in cars. Nothing ever runs more than luke warm since I’ve redone any marginal connections. Yes I mentally keep track of what is on in the house at any given time since I am not yet brain-dead.
How effective is the AC?
Cooling works ok on moderate weather. Hot summer and cold winter after that I’ll find out then
I have a 2023 here in Maui where we average 80 degrees. I precool the car – get in and turn the ac down. Works great. Average speed around here is 35 to 45 tops. Drives well not much road noise.
Did some testing today in high 50s weather. Heater seemed to crank out about 4x the energy as taken by the battery, but then again the real test will be what happens at 10 degrees f.
The Ironic thing is the most EXPENSIVE Hummers for the first year only had 48 amp chargers available. The next model year will have the 80 amp unit available. If any vehicle needed a larger than normal charger, I would guess its the Hummer because the thing is so Juice Thirsty and the vehicle is so pricey that anyone buying one or 2 of them can afford to pay an electrician to beef up the electrics.
So the car is very good but charging for DCFC is poor…like any other EV.
@Bill Howland, thanks for your continuing commentary on what you are finding on your Lyriq. Those of us still waiting are appreciative readers. I hope GM is paying attention too. Free market research to continue to refine the new product.
StevenB :
My pleasure Steven…… If there is a specific question I can answer, please ask it.
Hi Steven B.
You and others have asked for continuing detail as I find it. There is a slight difference between the LYRIQ and all other former GM plug-ins which – when using the 110 cord would default to ‘reduced’ ( 8 amp) charging speed except when deliberately changed to ‘maximum’ ( 12 amp ), except if home gps location charging was set for maximum.
This choice is now gone – charging at 110 with the portable cord is now 12 amps.
My ’emergency 110 wallbox’ is actually the wall mountable charging cord from my 2011 VOLT, which selected 8 or 12 from the face plate and NOT the car. This still works as expected.
I’m just supplying this info since some might find themselves over at relatives or friends with very meager electrics available, which could withstand 8 but not 12. I’ve run into this situation several times over the past 12 years.
So , one would have to have a charging cord with them like my 12 year old one if a Lyriq owner wanted to maintain that flexibility.
Note on the 2023 LYRIQ USB-C jacks:
– There are 3 ‘Power plus Data’ jacks for front seat passengers, and 2 ‘power only’ USB-C jacks in back…. The power level provided is pitiful – under 5 watts. There is a 15 watt – to – the – phone wireless charger IF your phone can handle it…
– Curiously, my 2019 VOLT has equally wimpy USB jacks, but the 2022 BOLT EUV has about 10 watts available from its USB-A jacks.
Why this is an issue is a LYRIQ TECH, LUXURY ONE, or Sport ONE buyer gets no 140 watt built in 120 volt jack for the back seats…. They must run everything off a 15 amp rated 12 volt accessory jack in the front cubby, or else a separately circuited ‘always on’ 15 amp accessory jack in the hatch cargo area.
Bill:
Thank you for your observations.
Could you use a tape measure and let me know the distance from the back of the front seats to the cargo hatch and the width between the wheel wells? I realize that the hatch tapers down for the last foot, but I am interested in the longest and widest 1/2” thick item that would fit.
I can’t get this from Cadillac or GM and I routinely carry RC model sailboats (my hobby) and I would like to confirm that my fully rigged sails when off the boat(s) will fit.
Hi Steve V.
With front seats adjusted far forward, length is 82″ at bottom and 76″ at top of hatch.
42″ wide between wheel wells. 27″ minimum height at hinge lip but many inches additional height to glass roof.
Bill:
Thank you so much. That is just what I need.
Enjoy your car and keep updating with what you like and any issues.
With the way things are looking it will be Q1 of 2024 before I get my vehicle 😞 but is nice to know the Lyriq will carry what I need!
Steve
Taking Lyriq off our shopping list to replace our 2020 Tesla. GM just can’t get the QRD right in time for us.
122 units of Lyriq was sold last year and 968 in 2023-Q1 which is a vast improvement and hope this will increase in the coming quarters, and hopefully it reaches the Bolt level in next year. Unfortunately the Bolt twins were killed for no reason.
What is more interesting is the launch of Silverado EV and lets see how it impacts the truck market.
I would almost bet my Lyriq that the Equinox EV and Silverado EV do not get released to the public in 2023. The slow production rates of the Lyriq have not been really answered by GM and it may be due to battery supply issues…in addition to their “quality issues”. I just don’t see GM releasing any additional EVs this year when they can’t even supply their current two models in any effective quantity. It would be really nice to know just how many current Lyriq orders are in the system and waiting for a vehicle at this time….10K…15K …20K..???..and only 1500 at best that have been delivered to actual customers since the start of production. I don’t trust GMs VIN numbers to accurately reflect the actual production numbers of their newer vehicles.
I’ve had my Lyriq for almost five months and I’m still having several software issues that GM cannot get a handle on. I’ve had no back up camera for the last eight weeks or so and prior to that, had it 40-50% of the time. No consistency to why it would work or not. I’m getting continual error messages on the display related to driver assistance, system side detection, headlamps, collision system, etc. Essentially, I have no back up assistance in the form of the camera or distance detection and when driving, side detection mirror alerts are not working as well as parking front detection. GM has tried a few items to include software patches, and a reinstallation of the computer module, which did not work. I was told they were bringing in another, different module this week but then just yesterday was told they’ve changed their minds and are now shipping a new cabling system. For some reason it’s taking at least 9 to 10 days to get those cables shipped in. With the Lyriq in full production for the 2024 model year, I’m not sure why I’m unable to get parts in a more timely manner. I really like the Lyriq and it drives great but this situation is extremely frustrating , especially considering it’s been going on since I purchased the vehicle.
GM needs to get their act together. This is no way to enter the luxury BEV market.
The cheap interior is why we will replace our 2020 Tesla with an EV that has a high quality luxury interior. Mercedes certainly an option. Sadly don’t think Tesla can get there.
GM won’t put the batteries before the car!
I would like to try a lyrig but can’t wait that long.looking to order 2024 xt4 and was told it might be six sixxmonths before it comes in and they are only offering white or black to begin with.I don’t understand what is going on at gm.I hav bought gm my 60 years of car buying never have I seen this kind or problems I hav e2 xt4 s but might be my last
Robert:
Agreed… In my case, if I am to believe my eyes, exactly the same as your case Why would Caddy run out of Blue Paint for almost a year and then have me forced into an unwanted Black paint for a Lyriq – supposedly one of their flagship products?
Decades ago I would have considered this a trivial problem.
Knock on wood – the car seems to be carefully assembled and at least nothing has fallen off the car yet.
Bill said; “…the car seems to be carefully assembled and at least nothing has fallen off the car yet.”
At the current rate of production (1,000 per 20 days, or 50 /day assuming only a single shift per day) they are almost hand made and ought to be very well assembled!
Robert:
Where did you get the information that initial 2024 production will only be in white and black?
I have a white Lux2 dual motor with black interior on order and selfishly I hope you are correct, but there are so many rumors floating around I don’t want to get my hopes up prematurely.
I contacted the Cadillac EV Concierge this morning to inquire about the status of my order for a Lyriq. I’m one of the customers whose order has been moved from a 2023 to the 2024 model year. Here’s what the agent told me: “Please keep in mind that production start for the 2024 LYRIQ will be officially announced this Spring, which is between April and June. We’re in the end of May now, so we’re expecting to hear the official announcement of production start soon. Once production officially begins then your order will eventually be officially accepted by Cadillac into production. Once it’s entered production and see a Target Production Week listed on your order, we should have a better idea of estimated delivery times for you.”
We ordered our 2023 Lyric on May 19, 2022. We were told months ago that our order is now a 2024. We reconfigured our order to 2024 Luxury Level 3. Two weeks ago we got notification from Cadillac that they have accepted our order. Beyond that we know absolutely nothing. We are giving them until the end of September.
S. Westphal:
Did Cadillac offer to give you a $5,000 consolation check OR $5,000 off the MSRP? The Luxury 3 Trim is similar to my 2023 but it is much more than $5,000 more to have it configured exactly the same way…. You can save $1,980 plus sales tax by forgetting the 80 ampere charger option and ‘suffering along’ with the standard 48 ampere model, which is what I assume 98% of the people will do.
Deleting that option would bring the price difference to around $5,000, which is what I suspect Cadillac is offering 2023 reservists from 5/19/22.
Incidentally, I also ordered my vehicle on that date.. Months later I was told i would be forced to BLACK. ON delivery day 4/28/23, I was the only 1 of 6 at the dealer since the other 5 ordered awd
I’m one of the customers whose order was switched from a 2023 to 2024 model year. Here’s what the Cadillac EV Concierge told me this morning: “I understand your concern. Please keep in mind that production start for the 2024 LYRIQ will be officially announced this Spring, which is between April and June. We’re in the end of May now, so we’re expecting to hear the official announcement of production start soon. Once production officially begins then your order will eventually be officially accepted by Cadillac into production. Once it’s entered production and see a Target Production Week listed on your order, we should have a better idea of estimated delivery times for you.”
We were offered a $5,000.00 credit toward the purchase of the 2024. I agree that the equipment on the 2024 Luxury Level 3 is similar to the 2023 we ordered. The credit closes the difference, but does not eliminate it. I am not happy about that, however the additional choices on exterior color and interior color and design helped. We are still totally in the dark on when we will be delivered the vehicle. I am a big fan of GM and Cadillac, but the total lack of communication to loyal and patient buyers is unforgivable.