All orders placed for the Debut Edition of the 2023 Cadillac Lyriq will be fulfilled by the end of first quarter of 2023, according to Cadillac global vice president Rory Harvey.
Harvey revealed the information during a recent media briefing in which he provided updates on a range of topics relating both to the Cadillac Lyriq electric crossover and to the brand in general.
GM opened reservations for the 2023 Cadillac Lyriq Debut Edition on September 18th, 2021 at 4 p.m. EST. The introductory Debut Edition was the only trim level offered at launch. At that time, customers could place a reservation by paying $100 to secure a fully-refundable, non-binding pre-order for the special-edition crossover.
The Debut Edition sold out within 10 minutes of reservations opening. Rory Harvey described the response as “extraordinary” and said that “since the show car unveiling last year, more than 200,000 people have expressed interest in learning more about the vehicle.” Cadillac has not revealed how many Debut Edition units of the 2023 Cadillac Lyriq were ordered, nor has it said how many will be built.
GM has delayed shipping of the 2023 Cadillac Lyriq to buy more time for fixing early quality issues. The lengthy wait for Lyriq shipments to start resulted from a quality hold. The General wanted to address a September 2022 recall for display screen issues and a liftgate trim panel assembly that sometimes cracked in the cold.
Most recently, GM released a new customer satisfaction program for a software issue potentially causing dropped audio on the infotainment system, flashing cornering lamps, and other lighting problems. Following this fix, GM removed the quality hold and started ramping up shipments, with 1,000 units reportedly shipped in the past 30 days.
As a reminder, when reservations were taken in 2021, GM said the 2023 Cadillac Lyriq Debut Edition will be equipped with an Ultium 100 kWh lithium-ion battery pack. A single Ultium Drive electric motor developing 340 horsepower and 325 pound-feet of torque powers the rear axle. The crossover sports a 450E badge derived from the Cadillac’s torque-based naming convention started in 2019.
Range-per-charge for the Launch Edition is rated at 312 miles, with a DC quick-charge source able to add 76 miles of range per 10 minutes of recharging. Under the skin, the Cadillac Lyriq rides on the EV-dedicated GM BEV3 platform.
2024 Cadillac Lyriq
The 2023 Cadillac Lyriq will seemingly have a low production run, with numbers only ramping up significantly in September 2022 despite a March 2022 start. The model year’s final day of production is scheduled for March 17th, 2023.
Start of regular production (SORP) for the 2024 Cadillac Lyriq will start on March 20th, 2023. Cadillac plans to shift at least some 2023 Lyriq orders to the 2024 Lyriq instead, offering a currently unspecified incentive to do so. The electric crossover’s second model year introduces a number of updates, including the launch of a new base trim level named the Tech trim.
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10 minutes, one year, and five months later people are still waiting their their debut edition orders to be fulfilled. That’s rough. I was told one guy ordered a Terrain and had to wait 3-6 months to receive it, and he didn’t get all of the options he wanted. I hope this supply constraint gets fixed soon.
You’re kind of stretching the truth. People that order in September 2021 knew the car wasn’t going to be released until 2nd quarter 2022. So at most people have been waiting 8 months and that assumes you thought you where getting it at the beginning of June last year.
It is entirely reasonable for people who ordered the debut model to believe that they would get their vehicle after nine months of waiting. For GM to add another eight-twelve months is excessive, especially since the standard model involved buying off a dealership’s lot. How did we get to the point that waitlists extending beyond 1 year became acceptable?
Well, my dealer has no reason to LIE; My Opulent Blue Metalic LYRIQ ordered May 19th, 2022 – since I couldn’t get in on the 2021 orders – will be manufactured MID APRIL 2023, as a BLACK METALIC MODEL, and the people who HAVE ACTUALLY RECEIVED their LYRIQs to date all have vins indicating well under 1,000 have been actually manufactured…
There used to be well under 100 Lyriqs available at Cars.com but lately this has hovered around 150.
So empirical evidence Strongly Suggests everything we’ve been told here is FANTASY…..
As in:
1). 2 colors with the Debut edition, then 4 for the 2023s – when the vast majority of them, and anything that the later allocations of the 2023s will appear in, will be BLACK ONLY.
2). I had a contractual – numbered – Build Order for a precise vehicle, which GM won’t honor. Many others have had the same experience.
3). Cadillac, made a BIG MISTAKE in releasing the top end model first…. Something similar to the 2024 Tech Trim should have been released first to at least get a small number of LYRIQs on the road… Many friends who were initially interested in the LYRIQ have purchased Model Y’s or EV6s or Ariyas. Sales numbers USED TO MATTER for the old Big 3. They have made a half-hearted attempt to decrease the content of the 2024s, but everything they do lately seems backwards. Actually producing vehicles is far, far down on their priority.
4).. It looks like there has been not much disadvantage into waiting until May 19th, 2022 to HARD ORDER a vehicle, since the last ‘DEBUT’s will be manufactured 3/31/2023. My vehicle will be made prior to 4/20/2023, only a few weeks later – even though GMA and Cadillac Society repeatedly state they’ll make only 2024s by this time..
If GM states they made over 8,100 in 2022 and delivered 1,000 of them by yesterday – somebody is telling Whoppers.
I have nothing against the Lyriq. So if you want to get one it’s your choice if you want to put up with the negative stuff they don’t tell you about owning one. EG:: Higher insurance cost,road use fee and if keep it long enough, expensive battery replacement. To top all this off ,if you don’t keep it that long forget about a deal selling it,Noone will want a used EV.
To each their own, but just understand if you purchase an ev in the name of being better for the planet, please understand from cradle to grave an ev is worse for the planet. Not to say technologies that could turn that around aren’t possible but an ice vehicle still overwhelmingly better on your wallet and the planet.
Mechanic Bill and Frank Rizzo:
Agreed: ICE vehicles these days are extremely clean compared to 70 years ago….
I just happen to like EVs, and while my spending about 1/5 th on refueling compared to ICE vehicles doesn’t make up MORE than their added price tag, it at least balances things out.
Obviously I’m fearful that GM managerial incompetence will eventually trickle into the product I’m Buying; so far I have had good luck with GM ev products since this company – at least by inertial aggrandizement – produces reliable products.
On the contrary, its the ICE vehicles the major manufacturers are making lately that have more than the typical amount of trouble. EV propulsion batteries and even the Advanced Glass Matte 12 volt batteries easily last 10 years – which is unheard of in the ICE world.
A $4000 Fed tax credit for the first used buyer will almost guarantee an easy future sale.
You guys are worrying about troubles that aren’t there.
Well a few troubles are there, not only are evs worse for the planet than ice, but they also require many materials that come from some of the worst countries. Not only do they (China,Congo,India) enslave children as young as 7 to work in mines, but the dust they breathe while mining is a death sentence. Also, we give countries like China the power to rule an industry (rare earth materials). Not sure why we would wanna give them anymore power than they already have. Also what about control? What if whatever administration that is currently ruling our country decides, you know what, that Bill Howland guy has said some things on social media we dont like, lets turn off his transportation for the good of humanity. To end, when i said that an ev from cradle to grave is worse on the planet and your wallet than an ice, i didnt include having to modify your homes electrical system(costly) trouble with repairs on evs(requiring special ev techs) the distance one would have to drive to find one, nor the nearly impossible to put out fires they can cause. These are still just a tip of the iceberg of problems associated with an ev, but those problems are real, and they are there.
Having 3 EVs – I can charge all 3 at ‘220’ simultaneously on my home’s original 1959 100 ampere electric service.
Hey Chief: If you have OnStar they can shut it down faster than Tom Cruise in Minority Report. All gm vehicles have on-star.
As far as no electricity goes, I will always keep 1 of my 3 vehicles a gas powered plug-in-hybrid.
“ All orders placed for the Debut Edition of the 2023 Cadillac Lyriq will be fulfilled by the end of first quarter of 2023, according to Cadillac global vice president Rory Harvey.”
Mr. Harvey appears to have been in hibernation this winter, or his staff is way ahead of their skis.
My dealer has taken pre-orders for 50 cars and says that their TOTAL allocation from the SOP in 2022 through the end of Q1 2023 will be SIX cars, all 2022 DE. Two are in shipping and the other four don’t even have a scheduled production date yet. All other pre-orders are in the process of being converted to 2024 MY.
I entered the wait-list on May 25, 2022, so I’m probably a ways down on that 50 car list. He has taken my order for a 2024, which Cadillac has now confirmed, since there is no way the remaining 43 on his list will arrive before production of the 2023 ends in mid-March, a scant four weeks from now.
Cadillac has botch this roll out so badly that many on this forum who were going to buy a Lyriq have said they have purchased another make of EV and will never consider buying a Cadillac again – several of whom have a decades-long history of brand loyalty. This is mostly from failing to keep their high interest potential customers in the dark. People will forgive production problems, supply chain issues and regulatory issues, but they will not forgive being lied to, or having information deliberately withheld from them to cover someone’s mistakes for PR reasons.
My dealer’s Area Rep has told him his wait-list will be cleared by late Q2 or early Q3, mostly because of production issues and Cadillac’s “priority allocation system” that will first ship cars to dealers in areas of the country that have had previously high ICE sales and to major metropolitan areas. I imagine that many dealers are in a similar situation.
Extrapolating the current 560 US Cadillac dealers multiplied by an average of 30 cars on the original wait-list of each, you get about 17,000 cars that will need to be produced in FOUR weeks, to meet Mr. Harvey’s commitment, when ALL of last year’s production was 8,000 units.
If this is how well Mr. Harvey as a Global VP is dialed into his company’s production capacity, it explains a great deal. He needs to “explore other opportunities and be able to spend more time with his family”.
I too have started looking ar other EVs. I don’t think I will see mine even in 2023. Once I purchase another EV my Lyriq will be cancelled and I’ll take back my 1G.
I missed out on Sept. 2021 order (out golfing) when the May 2022 came up I waited a little to long and missed that opportunity. Finally reserved a 2024 last December, I heard earlier this month that they were delivering over a 1,000 Lyriq’s. I checked websites of dealers and saw some on there so I called local dealer that had 4 and sales lady said they were all pre-sold but 1 might back out. She called me back a week later and said it was available, I pick it up Monday. Guess I was in the right place at the right time.
That’s a lucky break…but I suspect there will be more buyers backing out if the original purchase prices and features /colors are not honored as per some of the contracts. The dealer I went to see just to take a look at one in person did not actually have it and did not know when it would arrive even though they stated it was “in” for viewing.
What I can’t quit understand is this…they have a debut run, 2023 model and 2024 MY currently. If the debuts are not even finished in building until Q1 of 2023, how can they have a 2023 MY and a 2024 MY all produced in the same year and same QUARTER?? Are they trying to have me believe they will be producing 3 different run types in the first quarter of 2023? That doesn’t make sense and doesn’t add up since there is only one Lyriq assembly line from what I read.
Does the new Nissan Ariya qualify for the Fed rebate??
Cadillac built 8,200 last year and building to March 17th will probably be another 5,000. Dealers are getting a demo so they are probably delivering a total of 12,000 ish 2023 DE. That might have been the Sept. 2021 orders, I think Cadillac figured they couldn’t sell any more at that price and decided to convert orders to 2024. You would have to buy a Luxury 2 or Sport 2 to get close to the DE content adding the 19.2 KW charger those models would run 68,500+. I’m not sure how many 19.2 chargers will be ordered seeing how you will need a 100 amp breaker to use that. Mine has 22 inch wheels so you would have to go up to the level 3 trims which would start around 72,000. I heard the door handles might be different on the 2024 so changing to 2024 models this early in the year is for modifications and mostly financial.
How much does It sell to you? I should receive it at the end of the month, i am of the first édition is september 18, 2021. In Canada no subsidies for Lyriq and you?
I get the $7500 Tax credit it is a 1st Edition. My dealer hade a $10000 market adjustment, negotiated it down to $7500, nobody likes the market adjustment but I read somewhere that Cadillac required dealers to pay $300,000 for the privelege to sell electric vehicles. They are required to buy a fork lift for battery replacement and had to install heavy duty lifts so that is the major reason for market adjustment.
From where I sit here in Western NY State, apparently even Large dealerships have been locked out of the initial DEBUT trim offering at $3,000 cheaper than the May 19th 2022 LUXURY trim we were all forced into…
If they have truly made 12,000 Debut models that is eyebrow-raising since my LUXURY car will be in the First Allocation for NY.
Latest info I have from my sales manager is my 2023 model year BLACK – forced change from the blue one I contractually agreed to -LUXURY Trim, will be made prior to April 20th, 2023…
Which is supposedly impossible if the last 2023 is to be made 3/17/23.
Does the management not know what the factory is doing?
Or, is this so much worse than the normal SNAFU at CADILLAC?
Roger :
Please tell us the BASE MSRP of the vehicle you are purchasing before options….
Base price is 58,795 22″ wheels is 1,550 LP bracket 15.00 minus 25.00 credit for Rear Pedestrian alert and 1195 destination charge. Total of 61530.00
Oh ok thanks.. seeing as it’s under $60,000 this must be a Debut model…
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if your car will be made prior to 3/17/23 wouldn’t that also be prior to 4/20/23?
It is certainly an odd way of saying when it will actually be made, but odds are that those dates were just inserted from a computer file into a form letter. GIGO
As to whether Management knows what Production is doing, based on their track record, that is an open question.
Well, the actual verbiage was that the car will be built mid April 2023.
I asked,”Is this the black 2023 LUXURY we’ve been talking about?”
Ans. “YES”
“Compared to 70 years ago” hahah Jesus dude isn’t everything better then it was 70 years ago!? I mean is your tv better is your phone better? Who the heck would compare anything to 1953. You live in a different timeline boomer time to catch up. The solar I produce for my car is 100% “cleaner” than the oil you dig. Don’t get left in the coal mines.
Kevin :
Well, I wasn’t around then, but as a kid people used to say I must have grown up in an Antique Store….
Is the phone better? – Well no – they’ve ruined it…. Before you would just talk to somebody – now, you are forced to do all the Customer Service yourself – instead of having someone fix your problem you are being on hold for sometimes over an hour…. And you have to have your calls screened by voice mail since businesses are always calling for one thing or another.
It is cheaper in real money than it was earlier -though that is true…
The best car radio was in the 2011-2012 VOLT at least in the GM world, since it would easily do anything you wanted it to do, such as store 200 CDs, all systematically organized, along with a good sounding BOSE sound system..
Radios nowadays take longer to warm up and play music that at any time in my life.
And people constantly complain their New Silverados start out blasting full volume , and / or forget all the stations everytime they start the car..
But TVs are mostly better and cheaper – and the colors are better – I’ll agree there.
I’m out of the ‘Coal Mine’ since all EXCESS American Coal is being sent to GERMANY to save their Woke Bacons…. They’d freeze if they didn’t burn coal to make up the short fall from the snow covered solar panels and damaged bearing wind mills.
Yeah you’re right 1953 phone lines were better when 15 people had to share a “party line “ and wait your turn instead of individual lines how often are you calling customer service? your radios takes time to” warm up “? Haha lol what now? 200 cds? That’s was never a thing in any car. Streaming music has over 10 million albums. You cannot win this argument everything is better now. Is your air conditioner better then 1953? Your microwave? Vehicles didnt even have ac or air bags you cannot compare anything to the 1950s
My reservation for Debut Edition was confirmed September 18, 2021 at 4:02pm EST (yes, 2 long minutes after the opening). My hopes for the Debut Edition on my driveway have long since faded. BUT, I was told that my 2023 Luxury RWD will be built April 19 or 20, 2023. Forced to get Black, not complaining about the colour, just the fact I have to pay for it while there is no “base” colour option, and was told “it is what it is” multiple times by the salesperson. Will the factory really stop the line, revert to last year’s model to build some, then stop the line again to return to current model build? Doesn’t make sense. I will gladly take a fair incentive to have a 2024.
That said, I also have an order for a 2023 AWD Luxury that, according to the salesperson, will be built “sometime in October or November 2023”. Time will tell what kind of run-around I’ll get on that. There is a very large disconnect between GM and their dealer network. While my dealership has their faults, I don’t think they would outright lie to a customer, would they?
For those who may ask, I am in Toronto. RWD $71000, AWD $74400 Canadian Dollars, (incl. $900 for paint and $2200 destination charge). Wonder what I’ll end with, since Lux2 or Sport2 would be the closest 2024 equivalent, both in terms of pricing, options and build/delivery.
All in all, if delays worsen, maybe I’ll get in line for the XT6 version, whatever it may be called, “Xteesiq” might be available…
“While my dealership has their faults, I don’t think they would outright lie to a customer, would they?”
I have a bridge I would like to sell you, but I only take US dollars.
Kevin:
You are proving you know absolutely nothing at all. EVERYTHING you said was inaccurate… I have 38 Solar Panels on my home that I fully own to get the maximum financial benefit….
In the city, only 2 party lines existed,, they were a bit cheaper than flat rate single party…. My family growing up never had a party line, as we were message rate and paid per call. But by the time I was born party lines were on the way out anyway. Some rural areas had A FEW 4 party lines, and – before I was born – a very, very few 8 party lines, where you had to listen for your specific RING pattern.
Technology advances are funny things…. Most of the time they are improvements – however sometimes there are Knee Slappers..
Such as when AT&T data centers collapse a few times a year, and people who own the MOST MODERN homes cannot enter their homes since the CELLY won’t open the front door, OR the CAR DOOR any longer… A FEW and far between group
of intelligent people have kept at least ONE outside door to their home accessible by a mechanical KEY, so that they would not be totally dependent on AT&T whims.
dude what are you talking about? you cant open your car door or home door? do you also ask at&t to open your garage door too? is your internet provider (wifi) the same provider as your cell phone? funny how you skipped over all your earlier points of 200 cd changer in a vehicle. party lines still existed well into the 60’s. someone suggested up top that we take the keys away from you (both keyboard and car keys) obviously your losing it
Kevin:
Sorry – I didn’t realize you were as clueless as you were, but with every response, NO OFFENSE, you are proving it..
The lock problem has happened several times in various areas – please try to keep up with current events.
Yes party lines actually existed into the eighties and nineties…. You must have trouble with comprehension since I said I was ‘not ’round’ in 1953… That did not mean I was a Parallellogram.
I did own both 2011 and 2012 CHEVY VOLTS. Both cars could take in 200 CD’s.
Uh – Chief : You inserted them one at a time, and then they’d eject after the content was copied onto a mechanical Hard Disk…. Hopefully, you have seen pictures.
prove it, show me and article where people cannot get into their cars. + show me any advertisement or seller who has a 200 disc changer in their stock car. i just don’t understand why you are continuing to say things were better in 1953 and then also say you weren’t around at that time either.
Ive got a great idea, Bill and Kev yaw should agree to meet up. Get in your lil electric cars plan and head each other’s way. By the time both of you have had to stop and recharge multiple times and wasted all those hrs of your life you won’t be at each other no more. Bill you can show him your 200cd disc changer, Kev you can tell Bill how you rigged up ur solar panels, hold hands sing kumbaya, come up with some lame electric car driving handshake and then figure out the next step to saving the world, or the polar bears, or where to put more bird killing wind turbines, or better yet yaw could go get matching prius tattoos:)
@mechanic bill are you still dreaming about oil? time to open your eyes boomer. did you get left behind in the coal mines too? did you just learn about the word “woke” and think this applies to everything you hear? you sound butthurt (look that one up) do you enjoy filling up for gas as an errand or would you like to recharge at your house?
All 3 big experts.
This is a discussion thread for people who are having mostly unexpected issues with their contractually ordered LYRIQs.
In that I have only a finite amount of comments to instruct ignoramuses, I suggest they continue their discussion with someone who cares.
So… over 8,000 Lyriqs have been manufactured and less than 1,000 have been delivered?
What is the reason?