It’s been more than three years since the Buick LaCrosse left the American market, as production for the U.S. ended after the 2019 model year. Despite this, there still seems to be a handful of LaCrosse units sitting on dealership lots, as GM recorded a few deliveries of the Tri-Shield brand sedan during the 2022 calendar year.
As a whole, General Motors recorded 2,273,942 deliveries of new vehicles in the United States during the 2022 calendar year. Of that figure, the Buick LaCrosse accounted for 14 units.
These 14 LaCrosse deliveries are amusingly known as “zombie cars,” since they are sold long since the vehicle was officially discontinued. It also means that these vehicles have been on dealer lots for quite some time now.
It’s worth noting that the Buick LaCrosse is still manufactured and sold in China for the Chinese market.
As a reminder, the third-generation LaCrosse launched in the U.S. as a 2017 model year vehicle, and was removed from the American market following the 2019 model year. During its final year of production, the LaCrosse was available in Base, Preferred, Sport Touring, Essence, Premium and Avenir trim levels. Base, Preferred and Sport Touring trims were offered in front-wheel drive configuration, while Essence, Premium and Avenir trims could be ordered with either FWD or AWD.
In regards to powertrain, Base, Preferred, Essence and Premium trim levels with FWD featured the 2.5L LHN I4 gasoline engine as standard, which developed 194 horsepower and 187 pound-feet of torque, and was mated to the GM six-speed automatic transmission. For Preferred, Essence and Premium trim levels with FWD, GM offered the 3.6L LGX V6 gasoline engine as an option, which produced 310 horsepower and 268 pound-feet of torque, paired to the GM nine-speed automatic. This LGX V6 and nine-speed combination was standard affair on Sport Touring, Essence AWD, Premium AWD and Avenir (FWD and AWD) trims.
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Comments
But people want Buick sedans! That’s why they linger on the lot for several years.
It’s easier for them to complain that GM doesn’t offer any sedans versus actually going out and buying them.
And they don’t want to buy them unless they can get $5k off the price.
That’s because they’re $10k too much! Gm has lost their minds on their prices.
These cars didn’t linger on the lot. They were loaners, shuttles or a dealership owner’s wife really liked it and wanted to keep it as a demo. The car is now around 3-4 years old and in the window for a lease return used car, so it’s being sold on.
The thing is the car was never sold to a customer by the dealership, never titled, and ran on dealer plates, so it’s counted as a “new” car.
We shopped two year old new Lacrosses a few years back. They were $50K cars with AWD in White and Silver for just over $30K.
I have found Impala a year or so lingering too.
If everyone complaining about wanting sedans actually bought one they would build them. Problem is GM built sedans and even offer a wagon no buyers. They cried for a hatch so GM built one. No buyers. Diesel cars and SUV. Again no real buyers.
GetReal, GMC Fan and C8.R:
What BS are you going to spew on here when Buick dealers can’t sell the boxes they call vehicles? All of you love to throw out the bait for others. But explain to the rest of us (since you all have the answers to life) how you will explain away the over 2 million CARS sold in the USA in 2021. I’ll be waiting.
Only 2 million? The Impala used to sell half 3/4 of that alone in one year. [1965]
1,647,600 units.
Look at the year over year numbers and it has been a steady decline.
You may not notice but odds are greater you are following a box now.
Buicks main issue now is the boxes are old and need replaced.
The bait must work we caught a fish.
“Only 2 million?” Yes, of the 15,080,000 total vehicles sold in the US that same year. So if my calculations are correct, that would put the industry at 14% of the total sales for cars/sedan models. OMG, how terrible.
BTW, looks like I also caught some fish with the bait. See how that works?
2 million models spread out over how many models? 30? 40? Probably more like 50.
Spread out over 30 different models, that’s about 67k units per model per year. Unless the models are luxury, profit per model is very slim making it very difficult to justify developing a whole new model. In your case, you want 2-3 models for Chevy and another 2 models for Buick and at least another model for Cadillac. That’s just going to split that two million models even further making each model even less profitable.
Considering you’re in the car industry, do you not get the concept that these models wouldn’t be profitable? It’s not difficult to understand. Instead, all you think about is the emotional aspect and just complain endlessly that you can’t have 6 more GM models to choose from.
It seams you want GM to go back to its past of building volume instead of being a profitable company. I’ll trust management that they making decisions based on the potential for profit versus filling every little nitch and going bankrupt again.
GMC Fan: Since you are such a fan of GMC and SUV’s (you know, so you can carry that big box once or twice a year), please expand on how many Acadia’s were sold in 2021? How many Terrains? Let’s go to Buick. How many SUV’s (in total) did they sell?
When you come up with you own numbers based on your research, please share them with us. Then we can come back and re-visit how they all stack up against the sedans I posted. Thanks.
Add the number of the terrains over the Nox and you are nestling 350,00 to 400,000 units.
Same with the Acadia platform being used 6 ways to Sunday.
By the way it is used weekly and often daily. Ever try to carry a dog kennel in a Bu? If I fold it flat but the Dog hates that.
The wife uses often for work. She used to use a GM but found the SUV to be much easier.
When my mom was still with us she found getting in and out of the Terrain easier than the Malibu. That surprised me too.
I’m glad those solutions that work for you and your semi geriatric life doesn’t mean that everyone has these same needs, I think that is the problem that you have understanding. You might be perfectly happy with a greybeige Equiterricore with 1.2 2 cylinder turbo and a CVT but guess what…..and heres what might be a big shocker….not everyone is you.
I have no need to put a dog kennel in a car or a senior citizen or 90 rolls of toilet paper in my car. I don’t need a hatch or rear doors, or shop at Costco…..
Mr R. you assume too much. My wife drives and wants the Acadia, it is in her name and it is what she has. I have a GMC truck and yes I own a Malibu sedan. Yes I even own a 2 seat sports car but I do not personally own a SUV and never have owned a SUV unless you count my HHR SS I had only because the first gen Colorado was crap and I needed something to haul a Soap Box Derby car in. I hated HHR’s, FWD and Turbo engines but I drove one and the drive hooked. I added the Turbo upgrade and 300 HP was a blast accept for the FWD.
My observations are of what the majority of the market is and the trends as they are to say why MFGs are doing as they do.
Heck if it were up to me it would be all trucks and performance cars but I know performance is a declining segment today. Sure Mopar has their cars but they sell a fraction the number they used to do back in the past.
See the problem is you make this too much about you and you are trying to make it about me but you have no real clue.
It used to be that people were in love with their cars. They Identified with their cars like a Packard man or Cadillac man. Your car was tied to your image.
I am old school and I love my cars and I love driving.
Today people are more focused on being able to #1 afford a new car. #2 can I use it in my life to do all I need. #3 Is it safe, #4 MPG. far down on the list is styling and image anymore to many buyers. I get it as my Malibu is a great car but I can only haul 5 people and not much else. My Father had Chevelles from 67-73 one new one every year, These were not just cars but it was a truck as it hauled plywood on the roof, it was a bus hauling kids to swimming etc, it was an image car because it was at the time loaded for a car. it was all things needed in a family.
Yes I enjoy the Acadia and I enjoy the ride and drive as it is the most comfortable vehicle we have. But if I were to buy a vehicle to so it all I would still rather have my Denali. For driving enjoyment I like my Sports Car. The Bu is great for beating around town and generally I don’t have to worry about anyone stealing it of I go to Cleveland.
Sorry I just get it that most buyers are migrating over to the CUV and SUV models. Not my personal choice but I get it.
I also understand automakers like it because they can make more money on these models or sell twice the volume vs the car. It is about making money.
I would be thrilled if all we had were trucks and Corvettes. I wish I could get an El Camino again but The truth is this is bigger than me. I would do away with FWD if it were my personal choice. All RWD or AWD. But that is not going to happen and I accept that. Don’t like but I get it.
You may not like it and that is fine but you need to accept it is not all about you too.
So if you want to pick a fight with a SUV owner you need to find someone else. Sorry I am just secure knowing the market is not all about me and my observation are of the market not my personal tastes.
I’m sorry, on what planet is an Acadia NOT an SUV and I’m not sure what type of arrangement you have, but you DO own and SUV, even if it is your wife’s.
I’m curious as to what your mystery 2 seater is…..its not a Corvette I’m guessing.
The Acadia is her choice her car in her name. Do I drive it yes but if not for her I would not have it.
No corvette right now and it matters little what it is as the point is I do not personally own a SUV and my comments are of the market not my own personal ownership choices.
As I said don’t assume.
Not all of us take this personal. We just state what is going on not what we personally want or like.
Some of us can keep the personal likes superset from expressing what is going on.
You keep bringing up your personal anecdotes, its great for hauling your dog carrier etc etc, I think I’ve read that about 4 different times in different threads and thats great, some people don’t need that or care.
A 3500 Silverado is great for hauling a horse trailer….for the people thats important to…..but every car on the market doesn’t need to be a 3500 Silverado.
MrR: As you rightfully pointed out, not everyone has the same needs/wants as GMC Fan or C8R/CR8 or whoever they are. The problem with the arguments that they make is that is misses several key points. First, they never take into account the lost future sales. In other words, when the person going into the Chevy or Buick store to look for a car, many of them don’t buy the SUV’s and instead leave. Where do they go? Toyota? Honda? Nissan? Kia? We sure know it’s not Ford! But these people buy something from some other brand. That’s one lost sale. That person likely stays with that brand down the road. Another lost sale or two. That person refers family and friends, not to Chevy or Buick but to the brand they purchased. More lost sales.
Second, they don’t address the fact that some of the SUV/CUV sales that Buick/Chevy do make are to customers who did come in looking for a sedan. So these sales numbers on the SUV/CUV’s are still real sales, but they are overly inflated compared to the sedan’s for that reason. Lastly, there are people out there just like me that did own SUV’s in the past, but have grown tired of them and want cars again. I’m not the only one there and many more will take that same path. This is what I keep referring to in this business as being cyclical.
If you want to address future sales you need to be relevant to where the market is going not where it has been, It is not going to the sedan side in volume as it has dropped for near a decade. When you see some MFGs kill all their sedans that is telling you about their future expectations.
As for the second point. You are not the point of the spear in the market. I get it you want a sedan but unlike the majority of the market they are buying these other models.
It used to be automakers economically could address all segments with all types of models and variations.
today Development cost are no longer low enough to do all that so many companies plan models for markets that will sell in the greater number, Make the most return on investment and can be used for more than one model.
GM made a lot of sedans in the 90’s and early 2000 yet they went bankrupt.
Markets evolve. Case in point. Cars moving into the 80’s went to FWD and grew smaller. This is when the Mini van appeared and SUV models and truck sales grew.
As time went on the automakers have tried to make the SUV and now the CUV in various sizes to still give the utility many demand today. These models replaced the Mini Van and have grown in variation and numbers. You also have the number of truck models growing. In the 70’s you could not give away a crew cab and today it is the leader.
A market watcher pointed out that the size of a vehicle is really in play as to what sells. I think he may have hit the point. The average car in 1940 was a sedan that went on to be similar in side to most Full Size cars and and mid size cars. A 1940 sedan had a similar size to the popular Caprice in 1977. Yes the Caprice is more efficient in interior space but similar foot print.
Today many SUV models are the size of a Caprice Foot print.
Average Americans are not fans of many of these down sized cars. He felt if the cars were larger they may actually gain sales but with the growing CAFE issues that is not likely unless it happens with EV models. Add to all this the new car market in North America is shrinking. Only China has shown growth and even ow that is shaky.
The last thing the auto market is would be cyclical. We have never seen it repeat. But if you look a the history as a whole it has been evolution.
The next evolution is going to be EV as I expect the lower development cost of basing models on the same platform will open the door to more models and styles again but they will be EV this time. Lower volumes may be economical again. Time will only prove that.
Where the market is going: Back towards a sedan like higher sitting car.
I may not be the market, but there’s an awful lot of us demanding sedans yet.
GM also made a lot of trucks and SUV’s in the 90’s/2000’s. And they still went bankrupt.
So size does matter. Got it.
Not cyclical? Really? The market has gone from different body styles over the years. Back in the 30/s and 40’s, many of the cars actually resembled SUV’s of today but in that era’s unique styling. The 50’s and 60’s ushered in more of a larger sedan. The 70’s and 80’s brought downsizing and the wagon (more 70’s) were quite popular and mini-vans became the rage in the 80’s and 90’s. Sedan models held strong however and the 2000’s brought the people who think a truck makes a great grocery getter and work commuter. By 2010 the SUV/CUV’s became the more popular. And now you will begin to notice a resurgence in a more sedan like vehicle that may be AWD and may sit up higher and may be more hatch like, but the boxes like Acadia and Terrain are already in decline. This business is cyclical.
You have a right to your opinion but I see little evidence of that.
A few companies have tried tall SUV like cars with fast back hatches but they have done little.
Soon the 300, Charger and Challenger are to die.
Talk now of a SUV Corvette that I am totally against as well a possible Camaro line of models including a SUV.
There is a push for smaller trucks right now but I am not sure there is a large segment for many models. Truck people don’t like FWD and the models out there are not really out selling much. Even the Maverick for 22 sold 70k units. Their plant is not at full capacity.
I just don’t see sedans growing in numbers or volume.
Noted: Crickets from GMC Fan and a total spin from CR.8 in response to my challenge to them. I love how CR.8 decides to combine BOTH the Equinox and Terrain sales in an attempt to reinforce his point. How sad.
So let’s put those real US sales numbers down since they won’t.
Total Buick US sales for 2021 = 180,000 and a few of those may actually be sedan models.
Total Terrain sales for 2021 = 48,000 rounded up.
Total Acadia sales for 2021 = 50,000 rounded up.
That’s 278,000 total sales rounded up and with a few sedans in the mix for Buick. Now compare that to just the Camry sales for 2021 at nearly the same.
Share with us again how sedans don’t sell?
It’s futile to discuss a point when the other person doesnt understand the concept of what goes into making business decisions. Hint: Emotion doesn’t come into play!
Why do you keep referencing 2021 sales numbers? 2022 is final. Oh, but 2022 dropped a few hundred thousand in sales and it makes the point you’re trying to make even more ridiculous?
Does it make you feel good to judge me and suggest I only use my GMC once or twice a year? You’re just so ridiculous.
GMC Fan: Sorry if using my already researched numbers from 2021 offends you. Over a month ago, I referenced sales numbers in another article and because 2022 wasn’t over, I used 2021 as the last full year of sales. If it will make you happy, I can easily Google the results for 2022 now. Suggesting there is some other reason for using numbers from 2021 is just silly.
I love how you and C8R or CR8 keep trying to make my comments out to be personal. Do I personally like SUV’s? No. Likewise, have you EVER read where I think they should stop making SUVs? No. And that’s where the “personal” side of it ends. The rest is factual as can be found with simple searches online. That’s why I like quoting numbers. Sounds to me like you two are the ones taking this stuff personal. But go with what makes you feel better. I’d still love to finally see either of you address the lost sales now and in the future instead of diverting to something else.
Buick is what GM describes as white space. That is their words. It is becoming a division where they will toss models against the wall to see what sticks. In other words Buick has nothing to lose.
All their SUV and CUV models are old and due for replacement. There also is the move to EV there at a moderate price under Cadillac.
I as well as you have seen the new styling at Buick but I am not impressed. But then again Tesla sells a bunch of product with similar plain styling.
You make a mistake saying sedans sell you should say Camry sells. Chevy sells the same class Bu and it is no where as close.
Let’s examine Camry sales.
TOYOTA CAMRY – US – BY YEAR
Year sold
2005 431,703
2006 448,445
2007 472,808
2008 436,617
2009 356,824
2010 327,553
2011 306,510
2012 404,885
2013 408,484
2014 428,606
2015 429,355
2016 388,616
2017 387,081
2018 343,439
2019 336,978
2020 294,348
2021 313,795
2022 295,201
I see a steady decline for 18 years
HONDA ACCORD – US – BY YEAR
Year sold
2005 376,293
2006 354,441
2007 382,231
2008 368,161
2009 290,056
2010 311,381
2011 252,304
2012 353,204
2013 366,678
2014 388,435
2015 355,557
2016 345,135
2017 322,655
2018 291,071
2019 267,567
2020 199,458
2021 202,676
2022 154,612
CHEVROLET MALIBU – US – BY YEAR
Year sold
2005 237,065
2006 197,966
2007 144,096
2008 178,964
2009 161,574
2010 198,800
2011 204,808
2012 230,938
2013 200,594
2014 188,519
2015 194,854
2016 227,881
2017 185,857
2018 144,542
2019 120,302
2020 102,652
2021 39,376
2022 115,468
CHEVROLET EQUINOX – US – BY YEAR
Year sold
2005 130,542
2006 113,888
2007 89,552
2008 67,447
2009 86,148
2010 149,979
2011 193,274
2012 236,472
2013 238,192
2014 242,152
2015 277,589
2016 242,195
2017 290,458
2018 332,621
2019 346,049
2020 270,994
2021 165,325
2022 212,072
TOYOTA HIGHLANDER – US – BY YEAR
Year sold
2005 137,409
2006 129,794
2007 127,878
2008 104,661
2009 83,118
2010 92,121
2011 101,252
2012 121,054
2013 127,572
2014 146,127
2015 158,915
2016 191,379
2017 215,775
2018 244,511
2019 239,437
2020 212,276
2021 264,128
2022 222,805
TOYOTA RAV4 – US – BY YEAR
Year sold
2005 70,518
2006 152,047
2007 172,752
2008 137,020
2009 149,108
2010 170,877
2011 132,237
2012 171,875
2013 218,249
2014 267,698
2015 315,412
2016 352,139
2017 407,594
2018 427,168
2019 448,068
2020 430,387
2021 407,739
2022 366,741
HONDA CR-V – US – BY YEAR
Year sold
2005 150,219
2006 170,028
2007 219,160
2008 198,505
2009 191,214
2010 208,963
2011 229,703
2012 311,069
2013 308,454
2014 338,581
2015 348,720
2016 359,673
2017 378,600
2018 379,021
2019 384,168
2020 323,502
2021 361,271
2022 238,155
Now if you look the sedans are declining the CUV are not only increasing sales but also increasing in numbers of models offer vs declining sedan sales as well models offered.
Not my opinion just what is being sold and offered.
Then if you factor in that the prices on a number of the CUV models are at a higher transaction price and see more profit.
You are entitled to your opinion but numbers show differences.
Note on all models the Covid and chip years are difficult to say much on since they were affected by outside forces.
Increasing…..
CRV down 123,116 from 2021 and down 146,013 from a peak of 384,168 in 2019
RAV down 40,998 from 2021 and down 81,327 from a peak of 448,068 in 2019
Equinox UP 46,747 from 2021 and down a big 133,977 from a peak of 346,049 in 2019….
Anyone see a pattern here?
Have we perhaps hit peak boxy mommy mobile mini wagon?
Remember when mini-vans were IT and every car company sometimes had one or two in the line up?
Is the “profit above all else and we only sell what makes money” edict best served by developing more overlapping indistinguishable high chair mini wagons with a few differences in wheelbase inches? Do we really need a a Trax, Trailblazer, Traxblazer, Blaztraxer, Blazer, Ballblazer, Traverse, Inverse, Universe, Equinox, Equitynox, Blazer EV, etc etc etc…..
But room for one sedan and a sporty car that isn’t a 5 door baby buggy…..thats just throwing away money…..
MrR: I love what you just did. You made several fantastic points while putting a very humorous twist on it. Thank you for the great comment and laugh. I think my favorite line was
“Have we perhaps hit peak boxy mommy mobile mini wagon?”
I have to say that this is what struck me to most. Every morning and afternoon while dropping/picking my kids up at school, I watch one SUV after another pulling up, watch the mommy’s jump out, drop off their kids and jump back in and race away! The way most drive those boxes makes me think the mommy’s take the “Sport” in SUV to be literal. haha.
If you want to make a good argument you need to negate the last 2-3 years for Covid, and chip shortages as even full size trucks have been down.
You need to use numbers but not cherry pick.
I would not even hold you accountable for the sedan decreased in the last couple years.
I too question all the trail blazers and all these models but most of them are based on the same platform, engine and drivetrain. So they must be making money by sharing them just as they did making a Regal, Monte Carlo, Impala, Grand Prix and Olds. The problem back then was they did not make much money on them as sales tanked. I recall them dumping GP on fleet rentals just to keep the plants open as they lost less money selling at a loss vs closing the plant due to union contracts. It impacted my GTP Comp G resale.
I think we have gone as far as we can as you just keep seeing fabrication vs market realities.
Even you should understand the impact of chips and covid on the market in 21-22. Just the drop in sales of the Camry should be telling from 2005 to 2020 of 130,000 in sales as the Rav 4 went from 70,000 to 430,000 in 2020.
We can lead you to the truth but we can’t make you think.
You can’t judge this stuff based on personal preferences and emotions. It is not all what I want to see either but I have at least understand the market is not all about me.
Wow. Simply wow. What amazes me the most is how people who think they have an argument will gravitate only to things that they believe will make their point. That’s exactly what you just did once again.
Look at my post where I list many different sedans. NOT just the Camry. I simply made a point of the entire Buick line and the Acadia/Terrain combines selling about the same number as the Camry. Nothing more. This entire thing has been about sedans (plural). What’s even more funny is how you then attempt to make a point by using only the CRV and Rav4 and Equinox. So why didn’t you put the yearly sales for all Buick SUV’s? The Terrain? The Acadia? Instead, you use ONLY the Equinox and even those numbers don’t really make a very good argument towards your point either.
The bottom line is that sedans still sell and for some perverted reason, you two just can’t accept that fact. You keep going to the “direction” of the sales, which really doesn’t work well. And yet not once. Not one single time have I ever read anything from either of you about the lost sales, lost future sales, etc. By your logic (or lack of), GM should sell a couple trucks and SUV’s and nothing more. After all, if they can make a good profit on 10 models from 2 brands, why have anything else? Why offer a Corvette? Why offer any sedans? Just drop everything but those few trucks and SUV’s and tell the rest to go pound sand. Right?
Most sales were lost in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s due to crappy poorly built FWD cars.
Much if the market was gone long before the CUV came about.
GM went bankrupt with a full line of how many sedans and coupes?
GM moving to the new segment help gain some ground back as they had lost the sedan battle. People buy Toyota and Honda as they are brand loyal. They are happy but they are not changing. Much like the Tacoma. It is the worst truck in class right now outdated as it is but loyal buyers are hard to turn.
The Malibu is a great car but few are going to change from models they like. It is hard to reverse a market unless your competition really screws up like Detroit did in the 70’s.
GM now is hoping the forced change to the EV products will jumble up the order in brand loyalty as it is a while new game. Their goals are to reduce cost, extend range and shorten charge times to where these cars are not life style changers. They are well on their way but it will still take time. They want to make these cars so customer want to make the change not feel like the government forced them to a compromised model.
Will that work?? Who knows as only time and investment will change things. When they hit these goals is not a sure thing yet. This is why they are going to offer both ICE and EV.
The automakers are really trying to meet regulations, customer expectations and survive. Not an easy task right now. I expect more mergers and more problems in the industry as even some secure companies can not afford the changes. Honda did not work with GM on EV because they wanted to.
Now we have high interest rates and ever increasing cost of ICE. Many customers are priced out of the market.
Also the new Generations that are coming are much different in thinking than Boomers and Gen X. Read the profiles they have on the later gens like Gen Z. I have one here in the house and while he was taught right at home the schools have programed these kids into some crazy thinking. He seldom leaves the house yet he is getting a Masters from a very expensive Collage. He meets his friends on line and fights battles on line with them. He will soon have to go to an internship so he will finally leave the house. He wants a Subaru SUV once he is out of school. I am letting him drive my Malibu now but he hates it. Too low or so I am told.
I used to own coupes till he came along and the wife then wanted a sedan as it was easier for the car seat. I miss my coupes.
To many next gens would rather have a phone than a car. They like Uber. They skip door bells and text I am here. Technology has changed much. Automakers have a real challenge on their hands SUV, Sedan or what ever.
The was a 2 door, 4 door, wagon and Convertible.
They also have levels of trim in the Enclave too.
That was on top of Chevelle, Nova and their variations. That sold normally in the range of a half mill or more.
Today the best sellers are 200,000 plus. Good number but nothing like it was.
Chevy is doing the Nox 2 to one over the Bu.
It is not that GM should not sell a few cars but how many times do we need to see them deliver what is asked for and then never sells.
They are doing something right as they continue to remain stable in a very tough market while investing not only in EV but continue to invest in ICE.
Ford can hardly buy their own lunch right now.
Fun facts:
NOT including any cars/sedans from Subaru or any discontinued car models. After Google search of many sedans sold in the USA only for 2021, there were approximately 2,300,000 cars/sedans sold. I used only the main models from each brand, for example the Camry and Corolla, but not the Avalon, etc.
Toyota over half million.
Honda just under half million.
Nissan about 300,000.
Kia about 250,000.
Hyundai around 205,000.
Chevrolet about 50,000 (without Camaro or Vette).
Cadillac 17,000 with no CT6.
Mazda 55,000.
VW about 80,000.
BMW (just the 3, 5 and 7 series) 76,000.
Mercedes Benz (C, E and S class only) 66,000.
I know I could have pushed that number up had I just included every car/sedan/coupe sold in the US in 2021. But that’s ok because the 3 musketeers above will have enough to just spin these numbers.
Might not most of the models noted are sold in some form globally. They may share different names but the platforms are used globally. Unlike GM who most is in limited global markets.
There are only three mfgs of cars that are doing SUV numbers and they are declining year over year.
Toyota was around 500,000 a few years ago.
Sorry CR.8, I Googled sales for each of the cars based on the US sales. Not globally.
I want one too!
Can we live in a world where there is BOTH cars and suv’s?!?!?! GM still has the Malibu and the last report I saw indicated they are working on the next gen Malibu – let’s hope!!!! Should GM follow the lead of Chrysler and Ford and drop the Malibu, they are just turning customers over to Toyota/Honda.
An interesting story, my parents for decades bought huge sedans (Caprice Classics/Grand Marquis/LeSabres), when my dad died my mom traded the LaSabre in for an Encore. She now loves her “little” ride.
My 2 cents, with the EV conversion under way, GM should offer 3 EV sedans – Chevy mid-price Malibu, Buick premium LaCrosse (the 2 on the same platform) and Cadillac super luxury Celestiq
Car companies sell what makes money. People today are buying what they want. Sedans and Coupes have been in decline.
Some thing GM made a choice to killed the sedan but they have been dying for years at many MFGs.
Ford killed them all and GM is trying to keep the Malibu alive..
With the EV coming we may get more lower volume models at a moderate price as they will be using platforms that under pin a number of models with different bodies. It may give them more flexibility in the future.
Other wise when a company can invest 5 Billion in a new Malibu or they can invest the same amount to build a Nox and Terrain that sells 400,000 units vs 140,000 Malibu models they will choose the volume and money.
Some folks look at this emotionally and it is all business.
“Car companies sell what makes money.”
Which explains the $5,000-$6,000 rebates on electric cars that already sell at a trickle and lose money at sticker…..
Because they “make money”……
It’s ok, GM just opened up their wallet for an F1 team for Cadillac, that they will probably support for 2 years and then abandon again, SOP for GM, but there is no money for a Camaro or a Malibu replacement or even possible CT4/5 replacement.
If everyone wants a crossover/suv why are 95% of GM’s crossovers the 5th, 6th and 9th best sellers in their categories? Why does the Lexus RX outsell the entire Cadillac line up? Why did Buick’s sales go DOWN after they got rid of all those dead weight sedans?
Kind of hard to qualify rebates on old outdated Bolts.
That market is evolving and not to where the development cost have been recovered yet. That time is coming.
We agree, it’s all business. but . . . tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Camery buyers – they must have missed the memo. I’m sure Toyota is making a bundle off its Camry (and Corolla) – the Camry is all business.
Outside of the Silverado, Camry outsells EVERY GM model which is now pretty much trucks/suv’s — for “cars” 3 chevy (Malibu/Corvette/Camaro) 2 caddy (CT4/CT5), 0 Buick. Equinox/Terrian combined sales barely outsold the Camry by a mere 3,000 units in 2022 – look it up do the math.
I personally own a 2019 LaCrosse, Premier model, with the 3.5. This thing is a little rocket. I,ve always been a v8 guy, I owned a Monte Carlo with the v8, and currently also have a 6.2 silverado. Both the Monte and the Silverado sure provide the v8 get up and go I grew up on and still love, but I have to admit, my LaCrosse is no slouch, and provides me all the zip I need or want. All that, on regular gas, and giving me over 30 mpg (Canadian numbers).
I for one am very sorry to see GM virtually abandon the sedan market. I will put my LaCrosse up against any current sedan on the market. Why the LaCrosse or Impala didn’t, sell well enough for GM to continue them is upsetting to me. For one thing, in my opinion, (in my neck of the woods) you hardly ever saw either car advertised. Both cars are a stunning design, and having owned them both, I’ve gotten more comments from perfect strangers on how good looking they are.
Take a look at the newer version of the LaCrosse, which is still sold in the Chinese market. Wow……..now there,s an eye catcher. I,d buy one of those in a minute. I my opinion, that car blows away anything offered by the imports. GM made the decision to drop the sedan, and that was that. They sure had the car to compete, I know they just about abandoned any marketing effort for either car. Too bad, they just conceded the north american sedan market to the imports.
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I agree they are very nice.
But the trouble is they bring them here then they sit. The people who want them buy then they stall.
Then you have the I won’t buy Chinese cars people and the cost of importing. Is there money left after rebates?
The Buick you have now is one of the best offered but people still snubbed it for no real good reason.
Sad people just are not open minded and sadly and blindly brand loyal to Toyota and Honda.
The car LaCrosse story aside…why are people arguing about meaningless things on this blog? As they say, “Move along…nothing to see here, folks.”
GM should get these zombie cars on a central website. I know the independent dealers are the ones with the inventory, but it seems like some of the cars could get sold faster if consumers had an easier way of finding them instead of stumbling across them at a random dealer or asking their local dealer to look them up.
Seems that 14 buyers got lucky.
Buicks are generally great deals except for the anemic models running the 4 cylinder engines. I would have bought a new lacrosse in 2020 to replace my 2016 however 2019 was last model year. I was ready to replace my enclave in 2021 for the refresh but held onto my 2018 enclave till they had an avenir on the lot in spring 2022. There were virtually no new cars on the lots and I had one on order even. Now I not sure what I’ll do with my lacrosse since nothing yota or Honda can compare. Acura maybe? I like em but they’re kinda small. Lexus is a grandpa car plus I don’t want to pay caddy money. Cts vnis in my wheelhouse but again caddy money plus less reliable than Buick.
Buick lost sight of its dedicated customer they made the lacrosse to techy difficult to operate the customer base was the over 60 market then they say nobody buys sedans but all the foreign makers have sedans . Was a quality performance product at one time until GM got lazy with out Buick there would be no GM
I have a 2017 Buick Lacrosse Essence and I really love it. My previous car was an Infiniti G35x and this Buick is just as fast, not as loud and with much more room! I really love the look of it too. Get lots of compliments when I’m driving!