New Corvette C8 Owners Don’t Know The Protocol
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Let’s paint a quick mental picture – you’re tooling down the road in your Chevy Corvette when you happen to cross paths with another Corvette driver. What’s the protocol? If you happen to own an example from the first seven generations, the answer should be obvious – the “Corvette Salute,” of course. Maybe it’s a thumbs-up, or a little wave, or a flash of the headlights. Whatever your Salute of choice may be, the protocol is simple – acknowledge your fellow Corvette driver. That said, it appears as though new Corvette C8 owners didn’t get the memo.
For those readers out there who don’t own an example of America’s Sports Car, the Corvette Salute might seem a bit silly, perhaps even juvenile. However, for owners, this is just simply what’s done. Corvette ownership grants entry to a special community of enthusiasts that bridges race and creed, bringing together folks that love the iconic Chevy nameplate. That’s all there is to it. It doesn’t matter who’s driving it – if its got that crossed flag badge on it, that’s all it takes to be a part of the club.
That said, GM Authority has received several reports from readers that Corvette C8 owners are refusing to give the Corvette Salute.
“It seems that C8 owners don’t know the Corvette Salute that owners been doing for years and decades,” writes Chuck W. “Have now come across a few on the street and they’re oblivious.”
“Corvette C8 owners don’t say ‘hi’ on the street,” writes E. Pearlman. “Do they think my C6 ZR1 isn’t worthy or maybe they just don’t know that us Corvette people greet each other on the road.”
Even our own Executive Editor, Alex Luft, has had a similar experience. Luft’s time behind the wheel of the Chevy Corvette dates back years and years, most recently with his own personal C7 Chevy Corvette Grand Sport, and he’s always received (and reciprocated) the Corvette Salute.
“Ever since I’ve become a Corvette man, it has always been great to salute and be saluted. It’s like you’re part of this big extended family with whom you share a unique bond,” Luft says. “But ever since the C8 has started to rise in popularity, attracting a new customer, the salutes from the mid-engine cars have become non-existent.”
The reason why Corvette C8 owners refuse to give the Corvette Salute remains unclear. Perhaps the new generation of Corvette owners simply don’t know the protocol. Or maybe the whole thing is just an outdated tradition.
One thing is for sure, the Corvette C8 is definitely attracting a new kind of customer. In fact, according to GM North America Vice President Steve Hill, the new C8 is attracting younger buyers, doubling among Gen X customers as compared to the C7, and wealthier buyers as well, with a $76,000 increase in median household income. Additionally, most C8 customers are new to the Chevy brand.
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Sorry no wave here.
Next thing you will find rubber ducks on your car like Jeep.
Before I purchased my vette, the first thing I did was read about the history and the culture surrounding the iconic automobile. The Does and Don’ts as a Vette owner. It felt special to belong to group of owners that took pride in ownership. The “V” is simply a welcome to the club you have arrived acknowledgement. Maybe GM needs to include it in the purchase package. New owners take the time to learn the Vette culture before writing the check…Lets preserve it for future generations ✌🏼
OMG this is pretentious thinking JUST IGNORANT
Do and Don’ts of Vette owners. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!
Preserve being pretentious for future generations?!?!?
this thinking leads to “counter culture” thinking and that is why we have so much division in this country today and why there is such a HUGE counter culture in America today!!!
People are tired of these old pretentious values that divide the classes and America values.
IT IS A CAR TO GET YOU FROM POINT A TO POINT B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And this is the trophy for everyone society we live in. Oh you may hurt my feeling because you have a car with a culture attached. These are the same types that vandalize Teslas because they assume a Tesla driver is pretencious. I will continue to wave to my fellow Vette owners…and those that know …know! And if you ever want to own something with a history and culture attached to it……WORK FOR IT LIKE WE ALL DID!!
“It is a car to get you from point A to point B”….spoken like a true 2012 Toyota Camry owner. We live in a county where people proudly display their ignorance with giant flags emblazoned with various messages of hate on their gas-sucking lifted pickups (while whining about gas prices) and stickers of poor Calvin peeing on various car brand logos and politician names and big NRA stickers to exclaim to the world that their $300 weapon they bought at the local Walmart makes them more of a man….and drivers of a particular sports car waving at each other bothers you? Run along and clip your coupons so you can save 4 cents a gallon on your next fill up at the grocery store gas station….and if you want to wave to fellow coupon clippers, more power to you.
F-J-B
F Vicarod
Brandon…is that you?
Aw sweety, why would your President be on this forum…even though he is cool enough to have a nice Vette.
Aww Vicki…..show us on the doll where your President hurt you. pus.
If your purpose forr purchasing a car was to get from point a to point b you would not have bought a vette. Better not wave to your neighbors either right. Owning a vette is an experience, if you want to lessen that experience by being the putts that doesn’t acknowledge other vette owners go ahead it gives the rest of us someone to talk about. Good conversation starter.
bwahahahaha! I am buying a car, not marrying vette folks…. no need to if you don’t want to, just enjoy the fake Ferrari. Its so lame to “make sure you know tradition” bwahahahahaha!
Well Sally, I hate to break it to ya, but your Camry is no Mercedes, even though your mom tells you it is sporty.
Well this opened up a can of worms, got to be a record for comments. My 1st Vette was 67 – 427/435 that I bought in 1968. I presently have 3 Vetts C2 – C6 & 2022 C8. I have been doing the wave for over 50 years. Except for Corvette’s at Carlisle I don’t get tired of it. Now, I am not talking about the beauty queen wave elbow, elbow, wrist, wrist. Just a little non enthusiastic raise of the hand that acknowledges the on coming Vette. If you are out for a drive what, you may see 5 or 6? It’s no big if they don’t wave back.
Well said buddy…
Great input!
You are the very reason why Corvette owners have a stereotype, act like a normal person
Sorry you don’t appreciate or enjoy having something that is different than most. Like the person who buys a Sporster Harley rather than a Fat Boy. It’s just acknowledging another like-minded person. Why not drive a Camrey if you see nothing special.
Juvenile indeed.
I’ve seen a lot of different recognition signals from ‘Vette owners through the years (got my first one in’72). Maybe because the C8 looks like a high end european sports car some of the rich people who buy them feel they’re better than the rest of us. I’ll just continue to drive our C6 and wave. Nobody should feel forced to return a friendly greeting.
Agree….but these people that overpayed by tens of thousands of dollars for their C8 may feel less “special” when the Z06 and E-Ray come out and blow the doors off of their new “Corvettes” (in name only)….then perhaps they’ll wave to us lowlife C6 and C7 drivers.
The same thing happened when the c5 came out.It appeared that they felt they were better than the previous generations.Thankfully they began to wave and realize that we are a big family and waving is nice but also makes you feel you belong!!!
Stuck up LOSER
I ride motorcycles also and the salute means something. You have the right not to wave, we live in America.
God bless,
future C8 Z06 or ZR1 owner.
I give the “V” wave to other Corvette owners even while riding my Ducati. BTW…I wave at ALL motorcycle riders!
The Jeep wave appears to be dying out, as well.
Most D’ette owners get the one finger salute when they cutoff people in traffic 😉 🤬😉..
For over 30 years I drove motorcycles 5 of which were the Harley Davidson brand. Just about all of the time when a motorcyclist driving on the other side of the road, the low hand wave was given and received. It never mattered brand or model of your motorcycle. Those of us who own Corvettes do it as well. It’s just a friendly wave of acknowledgement.
The motorcycle wave and any other car wave is unnecessary and people should not have to feel pressure to do anything back. When I rode a bike it was annoying and exhausting every time another rider waved to you.
Honestly, who cares? Why should you feel compelled to wave? There is no rule.
Saying “please” and “thank you” is also unnecessary, and you may find it to be annoying and exhausting, but you should still feel compelled to say “please” and “thank you”… and give the Corvette salute .
Excellent reply.
Saying please and thank you is being courteous and has nothing to do with cars.
You are being pretentious
Having unwritten rules to judge others bye is really stupid behavior.
Your Mom and Dad should have taught you to be courteous, who teaches you about silly rules like “vette salutes”. ROFLMAO!!!!
What if you simply do not know about this un written rule?? you think the person is bad because of it??? seriously ignorant thinking
Craig, simply dumb comment. Apples and grenades. Stay in your lane.
This tread has been running for what 4/5 days now going all over the place. Let’s face it there a whole lot of different Vettes out there with all types of owners. For many this something that they dreamed about and worked hard to get. It has also created a billion $ industry to support it. I don’t care what year or what “C” series it is it means something different to each. I met a young couple at a car show with a mid 80’s Corvette that was a little rough. But they were telling me what they have done to it and what there plans were for the future. Is this not what we want to protect ?
Excellent point Peter! Very well appreciated!
And this ladies and gentlemen this is the reason why we have disrespectful children growing up. No respect for anything. It’s not a rule, but it is common curtesy, something I see your parents didn’t teach you!
Exhausting??? Ha, ok! I bet you get really exhausted then just getting up from your computer down in your parents basement to get a bag of Doritos.
I don’t have to waive to you and then not the other car owner simply because we drive the same make and model. Completely silly and nothing to do with how you are raised or having common courtesy.
Are you waiving to every car you drive by simply because they drive a car? Childish.
bro you are lecturing others about manners while making fun of him, how do you know he lives in a basement? This is why I dont give a fk for saluting anyone i dont know, just cuz we drive the same car, if i am in a happy mood and the other person seems nice, i will wave regardless of car and brand…. this cliquish behaviour is elitist and wrong and annoying, you should wave at everyone then, why just rich vette owners…. geez the stupidity, you people nit pick everything, i wont wave, sue me….
LMAO “rich Vette owners”….so Sally, you obviously don’t own a Vette, because nobody that has one would say “rich Vette owners”…so, why are you here trolling? Nobody cares if you wave….funny that you wave from your Camry to total strangers in other random cars when you’re in a good mood…..that’s not creepy at all……..I DO agree with you that the premise of some sort of odd requirement to wave is stupid though.
Your generation ruined the country for those younger people, please excuse them if they don’t want to wave to you in your base C6
You my friend TNTSilverado are hilarious! Very well spoken words.
Above comment is from an angry, unimportant, sadsack of a little man/ woman.
Translation: “whaah, you don’t like my D’rocket, the salesmen said I’ll look 30 years younger in it..” 😉🚀 😉
Awww Guestt…I bet the salesman told you that the 12 year old Cavalier he sold you was gonna make you get all the chicks because it was red. Salesman lie….and most Corvette drivers don’t buy cars to look younger. I bought my first one at 23….didn’t really want to look younger.
I’m sure your ’69 Vette you bought new when you were 23 made you feel “groovy” after your forced Nam deployment…
I’d wish they can offer the new Cavalier here…
Aw sweetheart, my first Vette, at 23 was an ’84. I wish it was a ’69 lol. Fun trolling a troll like you, but you’re simply not witty enough to bother with. Bubeye.
KaBoom go the Boomer…. 💥
He’s just a troll ignore him.
Or hang a VP….
Hey Guestt…..tell everyone you can’t afford a decent car without telling everyone you can’t afford a decent car. Bet you also thing people that cut their lawns in front of their nice houses are D’s too…..”look at that jerk, cutting his lawn like he’s some sort of millionaire”.
Lol, you’d be surprised what I can afford, I just don’t get the logic of getting excited for a impractical sports car where the rest of the Chevy (and GM) car line-up is lacking or GM trying to import every car from China, even if it’s profitable to be built here..
“you’d be surprised what I can afford”…sooo, shockingly low huh? Go cut your dad’s lawn.
I let my landscaper cut my lawn, his name is Bill uh, waita minute, get back to work!…
I haven’t noticed it dying out at all, a lot more
Jeep owners do the waive than Corvette
owners. I have a new mid engine and the other
Corvette drivers seem confused like they don’t
recognize it as a Corvette.
LOL….calling your bluff. Who calls their Corvette “a new mid engine” and not simply a C8….and if you think ANY Corvette owners don’t recognize a C8, you showed your hand.
Chevy Volt owners also have a simple salute: two fingers making a “V”.
Although some Volt drivers forget the second finger.
Troll ! How much did this one earn you ? You never miss a chance to get paid by the EV lobby do you ?
So says someone whose ancestors were among the “GET A HORSE!” people.
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Uh oh…looks like Billy is threatened by EV’s…sorry Billy, about 15 years from now you’ll be searching apps to find the nearest gas station while EV owners will be able to top off at most any corner station. And yeah, I own a gas-sucking Corvette and 2 SUVs right now…but fail to understand why some people are so threatened by progress.
Change is the only certainty. While I love my C8 I will wait for the E-Ray versus the Z06. 4 wheel steering and 4 wheel drive! What’s not to love.
Only makes sense to acknowledge someone because you appreciate them, their actions,… or their car.
With the numerous cars on the road and the need to pay attention to your own safe driving, that is an extreme expectation from seemingly needy people. Waving at EVERY Corvette you see is like giving a standing ovation to every performance you ever attend. It minimizes the impact of your acknowledgement.
Are these the same people who still confuse all their childhood awards for “participating” with awards for “winning” at something?
Sounds more like a few overly vocal owners of older Corvettes being jealous of the few who have managed to score a C8 thus far. When a few thousand more C8s hit the roads, this will most likely be a “long ago” non-issue instead of a “current” non-issue.
Nope. Knowing you are a part of a larger club, just through ownership goes a long way. And if ever in need, that Corvette owner is just a freind you have not met yet.
The brand is now stronger than ever.
In 1968, I purchased my first ‘Vette – a 1963 convertible w/340 H.P. 327 (solid lifters) & 4 – SPD tranny and “real” knock-off aluminum wheels. Our family owned a Buick dealership, so I had access to a shop to work on the car. From the first day of driving, I picked up on the “Corvette “SALUTE!”
In 1974, I purchased a used ’71 T-Top with 454 ‘Big Block’ w/TH-400 auto. It also had side “factory exhausts” from the 427 engine. This car was a “Cop Magnet!” I was driving back from Ft. Pierce, FL going back home in West Palm Beach area. I was the ONLY car going 55 MPH on US 1 – and a local sheriff deputy had been following me for about 10 miles – all other vehicles were passing me! I finally saw an abandoned gas station, pulled off the highway and stopped; he pulled in behind me w/blue light flashing. He stated that all he had to do was follow me and I would do something wrong!
Later, my wife and I decided to drive over to Palm Beach via the downtown West Palm Beach access bridge around 9 o’clock in the evening. We pulled into a large well-lit parking lot to review a map for the route we wanted to access the Lake Worth Bridge. Within 2 minutes of stopping the car, a City of Palm Beach policeman drove over to where I had stopped and turned on his blue light. He noted that I had a Palm Beach County tag and verified that I was a resident of Palm Beach County. He stated that “We do not like that kind of car in Pam Beach, and I needed to get back of the street, point my car west and go back to West Palm Beach!”
We also sold the Triumph TR-3 and the TR-4 later – their owners also gave a “salute” as well!
LOL…so, you think C6 and C7 owners are “jealous” of C8 owners? Nope….in reality many C6 and C7 owners are laughing at C8 owners because they are paying tens of thousands of dollars over sticker for a car that will drop in value like a rock once Z06’s are being cranked out of the factory as fast as they can make them. a 2021 base model C8 will be as appreciated as a 1984 Corvette was in 1985…old news. I remember getting a flyer in the mail in 1990 from my local Chevy dealer that got one of the first shipments of ZR-1’s….it said “bidding will start at $10,000 over MSRP”. Four months later I got a flyer from them saying “ZR-1 for $4000 under MSRP”…for the same red on red ZR-1 that nobody bid on. You want to feel special because you were the first person in your town to have a C8 and you love the C8?…great. You want to feel special because you think you have something others can’t afford and they’re “jealous”?…wait a few months and see.
Paid list for my C8. Stop stereotyping in order to justify your current preferred Vette. Ownership is not a C-# contest.
If you paid list for your C8, then you should really sell it and pocket the big profit while waiting for a Z06. I know a guy that bought a C8, decided a few hundred miles later that he wanted to wait for the Z06 and sold it for a $20,000 profit. He now is on the list after ordering 2 Z06’s….one to drive and one to sell for more than he paid. It’s not me creating the stereotype, it is the dirtbag dealers jacking up the prices…but it seems society, in the US anyways, has gotten like that with everything now…teens on waiting lists for PS5’s a couple years ago and people trying to sell them on ebay for $300 over MSRP.
Supply/demand has always been a thing, but it is now out of control. Have fun in your C8.
I’ll take my 62 over any c8 any day.
And I’m sure countless folks waiting in line for their C8s appreciate that. 😀
OK. Looks like the thumb-downers here on my post think we should all wave at every Vette on tje face of the earth. My disabled post surgery left hand and right elbow say otherwise. Give it a rest you needy people. My psych degree tells me you all have significant self esteem issues, seeking, no, DEMANDING, validation from total stangers under the guide of “ socially accepted traditional politeness”
Yup….I’ve always thought the “wave” was juvenile and a bit pathetic, just like the low hand wave motorcycle riders give each other in an attempt to look cool and badass. I do wave if waved to, but only initiate a wave if I have eye contact with the other vette driver.
Its Respect and Hello to another Corvette Lover. Because we love all Corvettes, no matter the year. Except the ‘83.
Increasingly, there are those in America that reject American culture and many traditions…there’s a variety of reasons which is just too much to dig into here, but these ppl want to change everything. This said, I find it sad…while of course, we need to progress, that shouldn’t mean destructing all we know and giving up little things like this.
You don’t have to initiate it, but why not reciprocate? It’s friendliness…isn’t that something we’d want to spread around?
Maybe I’m wrong…maybe Corvette owners are simply becoming just as oblivious-while-driving as most others on the road these days.
I think people are increasingly rejecting American culture because of things like “Vette ” salutes
Unwritten pretentious values you can judge others bye who may not even know they exist?!?!
read some of the posts here, listen to how pretentious some sound, thinking a vette salute is somehow a god given right practically.
Americans are extremely pretentious and have been for many decades because of
“American Exceptionalism”. We think we are so damn cool and the current generation are tired of the pressures of living up to these high expectations.
If we are so cool, why are so many of the products we buy made in China??? we are just a consumer based society who thinks they are better than the world and that is simply a lie.
We all put our pants on one leg at a time
MIC DROP! While I love my Corvette, I hear ya and agree. It’s kinda funny that, as I have traveled all over the world, to places like Australia and NZ, up until 2016 we weren’t really hated and laughed at as a Country…but the same people in the same places I have gone went from googly-eyed “I just met a celebrity” looks when I told them I was from the USA to trying to hide smirks and laughing after 2016. The funny part is, the event in 2016 that led to this change was supposed to cause the opposite. It was supposed to make people suddenly respect and adore the USA..but we turned into a worldwide laughing stock. So you are correct, acting like the Vette wave is some sort of requirement (and yes, I do it most of the time and always reciprocate) is the most American thing I have heard. We love our “freedoms” so much, but then whine when someone practices the freedom to not wave. smfh
Increasingly, there are those in America that reject American culture and many traditions…there’s a variety of reasons which is just too much to dig into here, but these ppl want to change everything. This said, I find it sad…while of course, we need to progress, that shouldn’t mean destructing all we know and giving up little things like this.
You don’t have to initiate it, but why not reciprocate? It’s friendliness…isn’t that something we’d want to spread around?
Maybe I’m wrong…maybe Corvette owners are simply becoming just as oblivious-while-driving as most others on the road these days.
Finger / hand signals can be so easily misinterpreted nowadays. Especially from a distance, and when moving. And possibly result in unintended consequences.
I gave a buddy of mine the “OK” sign at a baseball game once after he stole third, and some woman behind me called me a Nazi and claimed I made a “white power” sign.
I had no clue what the hell she was talking about.
It’s a Chevy,that’s all please nothing special.
Way more special than a fod or WV. The corvette is a car that’s faster than European examples and doesn’t require you to be in a high social class to purchase. That alone is special
To drive one, is to know one. Interesting to note that is not a single year or model of Corvette that is considered undesirable. Amazing. And every one I have ever driven is a blast to drive. They are all great.
Lower your nose and disinflate your head and … Happy motoring
Like any other car indeed. However, the Vette culture is unique to the brand…participate or not, the culture remains.
A funny story, but this has also become an issue with the bikes!
Actually, every motorcycle says hello to every motorcycle, but there are exceptions here too! Motorcycles with expensive bikes, which are usually only leased, do not greet motorcycles with simple motorcycles.
These negative examples are Harleys, BMW R18 and GS and K1600 models.
Well, I don’t care, because I’ve been riding motorcycles for a long time and currently since 2010 a BMW S1000RR, Kawasaki GPZ 750 Turbo and the oldie DKW RT175 from my parents.
So you see the supposed “new rich” believe they are the “elite” and yet these people are poor spirits who are poor, because a leased motorcycle always belongs to the dealer!
Only these stupid people believe something that US doesn’t care about!
You have to wave its a sign of pride of ownership
Owned a ’94 Z07 Admiral metallic blue. And from day one any and every time I passed another Corvette the hand went up . At that time I was one of less than 1,000,000 in total produced. Not sure of total production #s now but still driving owning or just riding in a Corvette is fun so acknowledge the others enjoying their turn at the wheel.
I always have waved when I see (operative word) another Corvette. Sometimes traffic conditions makes it easy to not see another Vetter. It’s not a snub. My 67 was a blast but my new C8 is outstanding!
14 year old, basement-dwelling, neckbeard present and accounted for.
My hypothesis:
The C8 has brought in first time Corvette buyers that aren’t familiar with the “Corvette Wave”.
I own a C7 GS and I always get a wave from other Vette owners, regardless of year.
Yer fired bud, you didn’t follow proto.
Yes I have a C8 and I sometimes wonder if people don’t know its a Corvette. Because the look is so much different than past generations. Our Corvette club saying is Save the wave, that’s what our Club president puts on all his emails. I drive a older CJ and the new people driving Jk’s and what not don’t always wave either. People just aren’t as nice as in the past or as cool as old school folks.
Heck I even hold the door for a lady and tell her she looks nice today and we know that’s not always politically correct .Nothing wrong with old ,the America we need to get back to.
Class act Tom. Good Post.
SAVE the WAVE!
I have been a long time Corvette fan, have owned 9 different Corvettes since 1968. I have always give a wave to on coming Corvette’s. I just picked up my new 2022 C8, ( white Z51 with red interior that I ordered in Nov. 2020). I tell you; it is a marvel in engineering and quality. As everyone says it’s fast as hell and drives like it is on rails. Whats funny is I also have a 64 Coupe white with red interior it seems everyone waves at me? I hope the WAVE never gets lost;
For months I (C8) waved at other Corvettes and they did not wave back. I finally realized they didn’t know it was a vette (probably until they saw the rear end then it was too late)
Yep, found that to be true for the most part. C8 is a turning point in many ways, not only for Corvette but for the people buying them. Time marches on. I’m just glad I got to experience the Corvette for what it was during my lifetime. Born in 1957 I’ve grown up with a great generation of Corvette owners… and I’ve had seven of them.
I have owned Many Corvettes and the nod has always been tradition, but recently I have noticed this disappearance. However opposite, it’s a no nod to my C8, and I agree with earlier statement of perhaps fellow corvette drivers are still getting familiar with the new C8 body style.
Whatever reason the corvette nod doesn’t come back, I will still send you a salute and admire your Vette what ever C? It is.
Enjoy your ride whatever it is… Vette, Jeep, Harley, Hardly Davidson, and Classics.
I usually give a quick flash of the high-beams, because my windows are tinted, and I usually can’t be seen thru the side windows. I enjoy the salute.
So YOU’RE the one blinding me all the time!
We sadly live in a society as to where people are focused on themselves and their mobile devices rather than their surroundings, it’s the same as going to the store and you don’t get a simple “Hello” from some of the people you may walk by.
I can’t believe what becomes an issue for people. With so much going on in today’s world, I wish my worry was why someone didn’t wave back.
Older Porsches always flash their lights – most of the new ones driven by dentists and Lawyers are leased and don’t , but the 2nd owners will. I just Ignore the newbes and hope they will eventually catch on. Part of the problem is that both Porsches and Corvettes used to be produced in much smaller numbers than they are now. When I bought my first Porsche they sold 4,000 cars a year.
My first experience with being recognized in my Corvette was 1980 , and I was pleased that every other Vette driver waved. Then it was explained to me. And just like the brotherhood of motorcycle riders, who flash a sign low if road clear of cops ahead, or tap the top of our helmet if a cop is waiting down the road. Corvette owners who are in the know and love the cars wave. I am in two Nationally sactioned Corvette Clubs, so we know about cars, community, and kinship by being an owner of the brand. The Corvette is special. And I hope over time, those new owners will learn to wave to others.