Wagoneer L And Grand Wagoneer L Launched As Suburban, Yukon XL And Escalade ESV Rivals34
Stellantis pulled the veil off the Jeep Wagoneer L and the more luxuriously appointed Grand Wagoneer L at the New York International Auto Show this week, with the two extended wheelbase full-size SUVs set to rival GM’s own extended wheelbase offerings, including the Chevy Suburban, GMC Yukon XL and Cadillac Escalade ESV.
The new 2023 Jeep Wagoneer L and Grand Wagoneer L are 12 inches longer overall than the standard-wheelbase models, featuring a 130-inch wheelbase and up to 44.2 cubic feet of cargo space behind the third row. GM’s own full-size SUVs feature a slightly larger 134.1-inch wheelbase but have slightly less cargo space behind the third row at 41.5 cubic feet. Jeep claims a best-in-class passenger volume for the Wagoneer L at 179.3 cubic feet and best-in-class second-row legroom at 42.7-inches, along with a best-in-class towing capacity of up to 10,000 pounds.
Stellantis’ new 3.0L Hurricane inline-six engine stars in the SUV, serving as the base-level engine in the Wagoneer L, where it produces 420 horsepower and 468 pound-feet of torque. The Grand Wagoneer L, meanwhile, will feature the High Output version of the Hurricane motor, rated at 510 horsepower and 500 pound-feet of torque. Stellantis estimates the Hurricane engine offers a one to two-mile per gallon combined fuel economy improvement over its 6.4L HEMI V8. An eight-speed automatic transmission routes power to all four wheels as standard.
Like the Adaptive Air Ride Suspension system offered on GM’s full-size SUVs, the Wagoneer and Wagoneer L are offered with Jeep’s own Quadra-Lift system. This air-ride suspension setup offers five height settings, including Normal, two Off Road height modes, an Aero mode and a Park mode that lowers the ride height by 1.6 inches. A standard Trailer Hitch Line-up Assist with zoom system allows for users to take advantage of the 10,000 lb tow capacity and easily hook up a trailer – with the air ride suspension allowing the user to lower the vehicle underneath the hitch for greater ease of use.
Inside, the Wagoneer L and Grand Wagoneer L will feature 10.1- and 12-inch reconfigurable touchscreen displays, along with an available 10.25-inch passenger display screen. Wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto is standard, with functionality further enhanced by way of an available 4G LTE Wi-Fi hotspot.
The Wagoneer L and Grand Wagoneer L will be produced at Stellantis’ Warren Truck Assembly Plant in Michigan alongside the regular wheelbase models. Pricing has yet to be announced.
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I saw a new regular Wagoneer that was debadged and had tinted taillights, there were kids fighting in the back and music blasting, literally, lol
The normal length Wagoneer models already have an awkward side profile with the window shapes and body-color pillars. The extended model only shines a brighter light on how poorly designed it truly is. GM and Ford have a far better handle on how to reduce the visual mass of the Suburban and extended Expedition.
“Stellantis estimates the Hurricane engine offers a one to two-mile per gallon combined fuel economy improvement over its 6.4L HEMI V8″….that can’t be right, surely it’s more like +5 mpg?
LOL. I was quite surprised that they aren’t reporting better improvement as well. A 1-2 mpg improvement still leaves them at the back of the pack.
I’ve seen like 2 Wagoneers since they’ve been on the market. Both were a couple weeks ago while in Moab, UT. They don’t seem to be setting the market on fire. Wonder if the new motor will help or reduce demand.
The HO Inline 6 in the Standard GW gets the same Mileage as Cadillacs v8 that makes 90hp & 40lbft Less .
5.7 Hemi 392hp/404lbft
The standard 2WD Wagoneer 16/22/18.
The standard 4WD Wagoneer 15/22/17.
Standard Out put I6 420hp/468lbft
The 2WD Wagoneer L 17/23/20
The 4WD Wagoneer L 16/22/19.
High Output Inline 6 510hp/500lbft
AWD only Grand Wagoneer L 14/19 /16;
the non-L with the 6.4-liter Hemi and 4WD was rated at 13/18/15.
S.O inline 6 The 2WD Wagoneer L 17/23/19
6,2L V8 2WD Escalade (standard WB) 14/18/16
6-cyl, 3.5 LNavigator L 16/21/18
It now leads the pack
Ironic that the last time Jeep came out with a full-size SUV, also with a wierd side profile (Commander), gas prices shot up through the roof and collapsed all SUV/truck sales. Will it be different this time?
Amazing interior but horrible exterior especially the side profile.
These vehicles look much better in person and in dark colors.
The problem with the Wagoneer & Grand Wagoneer is that the GM trio SUVs are so good and no matter what Stallantis will do, they hardly have a dent in market share. It will be a long road for them to be view on the same level like the GM trio. Chrysler should had thought about not giving the Wagoneer a long hiatus but they had to start some time I guess to compete.
You never know. Back when Airbus started they were laughed at and were expected to never make a dent, but look where they are now. The A320neo has beating the 737 Max in orders since 2020.
Boeing rested on it’s laurels for decades, and boosted profits by cheapening out on materials and software while Airbus kept innovating while keeping quality relatively high. Boeing got caught with it’s pants down and rushed a flashy plane to the market when it wasn’t ready and is now paying for it dearly.
Stellantis (especially the FCA part) is the Boeing in this scenario where GM is Airbus. Years behind GM on EV tech and entering a tough segment with a flashy vehicle that is a tough sell because it’s such a fuel hog compared to what’s being offered by the competition.
Please name one gm ev that is on the market right now that hasn’t had a major recall or caught fire.
Please name one Stellantis ev …
So that’s a no I take it? You can’t name one on the market right now? If you could you wouldn’t have just made that excuse.
Considering the sold more units than Fords Expedition line without the L’s is telling you they are getting there
Do we really need another extended length full-size SUV? This SUV craze is starting to overstay its welcome in the automotive market.
All the competitors want to compete with the GM trio. Let GM have the sole market for LWB BOF SUV market. The reason I say this is that hardly Ford have a dent with the Expedition Max and Navigator L in market share. It will not be any different with the Wagoneer L.
The steering wheel is ugly. Why would you put a 2 spoke old style ugly out of date wheel in a nice new design. I could never get use to looking at it every day. 😪 just my opinion. It’s a very nice looking suv besides that.
So Jeep gets a turbo charged engine that makes more power than a GM 6.2 liter and GM is sticking with a puny turbo charged 4 cylinder? Wayvto go GM.
“The available 3.0L Hurricane Twin-Turbo 510 I6 engine with Stop/Start delivers more horsepower, torque and efficiency than the 6.4L V8 engine” <<<<quote from Jeeps own website
The new motor makes more power than their existing 6.4 liter V8. So jeeps own 6.4 liter isn't as powerful
GM's doesn't put a puny turbo 4 cylinder in this size vehicle so you are also wrong about that too.
Always one in the crowd. The GM 2.7 is for base pickups and mid grade performance in cars. The STA 3.0 is for premium vehicles only (think Ford EB 3.5)..
Ughhh… Anybody remember the Trailblazer EXT? Haven’t seen such awkward proportions since then.
As read a few weeks ago here on the GMAuthory, this Stellantis I6 will be their “world engine” and it is manufactured at the same plant in Mexico where the Hemi’s are manufactured. The Hemi will be phased out and any kind of improvement no matter how small that increments are,p helps to meet tougher emissions requirements. An I6 is less costly to manufacture than V8’s and cost is always a factored in to produce a new engine.
New engines are so efficient that if it is four, six or eight cylinders, it takes the same amount of energy to move a 5000lb vehicle from point A to B. With all this HP and torque, Stellantis needs a ten speed transmission.
The inline is for the North American market.
Like others, that second passenger door window and rear window are shaped kinda weird. The rear window curves forward rather than rear ward going against the flow…
Same for the fascia grill. It’s a Jeep just like all Jeeps and really doesn’t set these models above the “typical ” Jeeps IMO, sells the high end a bit short. Meaning a more modern different grill with the Jeep characteristics to set it apart like the other manufacturers have done. Example: Travese to Tahoe.
I live near a Jeep/Dodge dealer, so I will take a closer look on Sunday so I’m not hassled…lol
Price yet to be determined!!!!😂😂😂😂
I seem to remember a SuperBowl ad for this and advertised at $80,000 or so. I saw one the other day.
It stands out as it is huge and imposing. But also not something I would want. But the badge Grand Wagoneer means
something, these were gorgeous inside (as I remember it). But the price was, well, its for rich people, which I am not.
I’ve seen it recently, $61k for base Wagoneer, $89k for base GW on the commercial, at least they won’t sticker shock you when you go to the dealership but these SUVs isn’t basement bargains for sure…
GM to Jeep: Good luck with that…
Wow those things are ugly. Looks like one of those rugged north pole tour busses.
The livery drivers will love them and in Utah opt 4 row jump seats for the larger families . the rear roof line up tick on the d pillar ruins the design ,the new grand Cherokee roof line ,looks more like a wagoneer than this .I’m not even going to look at it . would like to drive the new inline 6 just saying
Why oh why did Jeep fail to offer a 60/40 front bench seat and a diesel engine? What were they thinking in Toledo?
Amazing that the American masses accept the confining, no wiggle room, sweat creating, bucket seats. Also the American masses do not know about the features and benefits of a diesel engine over a gasoline engine.
The Cummins diesel engine saved Dodge and made RAM.
Jeep needs to consider my suggestions.
Hello GM. Great job on the baby Duramax in the Suburban.