An executive order signed by President Biden on Wednesday calls for the federal government to cease the purchase of all fuel-powered fleet vehicles by 2035.
In a statement released by the White House this week, the federal government said it wants to “lead by example in order to achieve a carbon pollution-free electricity sector by 2035 and net-zero emissions economy-wide by no later than 2050.” To do this, it will stop the purchase of all fuel-powered fleet vehicles by 2035. Furthermore, it plans to stop purchasing fuel-powered light-duty fleet vehicles by 2027.
“Through a whole-of-government approach, we will demonstrate how innovation and environmental stewardship can protect our planet, safeguard Federal investments against the effects of climate change, respond to the needs of all of America’s communities, and expand American technologies, industries, and jobs,” the Biden Administration said in a statement.
Biden with GM CEO Mary Barra in 2014
While the majority of federal institutions will only be permitted to purchase EVs by 2035, the executive order allows exemptions for certain military and space vehicles.
“The head of an agency may exempt from the provisions of this order any vehicle, vessel, aircraft, or non-road equipment that is used in combat support, combat service support, military tactical or relief operations, or training for such operations or spaceflight vehicles, including associated ground-support equipment,” the language in the executive order says.
This will be a welcome change for General Motors, which has several fleet-ready EVs on the way including the BrightDrop EV410 and EV600 electric delivery vans and the Chevy Silverado EV. As the executive order points out, the federal government is the “single largest land owner, energy consumer and employer in the nation,” and therefore has the power to drive an immense amount of sales to automakers that produce the kind of fleet-ready battery-electric vehicles that it will need.
The executive order also calls for the U.S. to achieve “100 percent carbon pollution-free electricity on a net annual basis by 2030,” including 50 percent carbon pollution-free electricity.
In the summer, President Biden issued a separate executive order calling for 40-50 percent of new consumer vehicles sold in the United States to be battery-electric by 2030. The executive order received backing from General Motors, Ford and Stellantis, as well as major foreign automakers like Toyota and Hyundai.
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Doesn’t matter it won’t stick it will change again with the next president.
Let’s go Brandon!
@shockandawe have some RESPECT for the president f***in douche bag
To every EV on the road today; I’m glad we still have a chip shortage. Up on last intel, the chip shortage will stay on until about June 2022 : i)
F**k Joe Biden! There, I fixed it
@Treavus Gage sounds like you are filled with RESPECT! Why would that comment upset you so much? Don’t be a hypocrite!
Stop being a coward treavus gage say the word you wanna say don’t put the cowardly censored word on here.
Only pigs respect politicians so at least we know what you are now. Pure trash.
Spoken like a true MAGA sycophant.
Car companies aren’t as fickle as presidential administrations. They see the general trend and stick with it. It’s one of the reasons why then the prior admin eased expensive MPG regulations, OEMs didn’t start tossing all their eggs into the v6/v8 baskets again, they continue to produce high quality turbo 4/EV… going back and forth from one thing to the other isn’t profitable. So it won’t be long before we see EVs become prevalent in government fleets. Like it or not.
Blah, blah, blah.
Sadly most of these laws are no longer challenged by the auto industry. It matters little who is elected anymore as the automakers all have too much invested to turn back now.
Also the automakers are finding they may be able to create much more income with the EV products so they will continue more investment.
As for the angry old man. The sooner 2024 comes the better for many other parts of life. I can’t afford a second term with him.
Me and you both brother.
I’m looking forward to seeing the EV powered fighter jet, tanks and ships!
I can’t tell if you are being for real or not but if you are that sounds crazy lol.
The industry isn’t opposed because the government is paying for it all. GM has received grants actually, Toyota has actually sued because their not allowed in the massive EV government piece of the pie. If the feds were mandating without giving tons of money for facilities, and engineering, you could be there would by lobby and lawsuits against it.
Also who really believes that EV’s will be cheaper???? The Chevy bolt is the same size as the older sonic hatchback. …. a car that GM made profit on selling at incentives for 12k, and the bolt is a car they lost money on…7k per unit….before this whole recall even started…. and were selling for more than 40k… how will a car like the bolt get down to 10K (if we’re actually assuming EV’s will be cheaper) I need to point out that Tesla has yet to have a single tear that they have turned a profit. That’s right. Never since it’s inception, has Tesla selling EV impalas for 120K have the made a single buck from sales. It’s all government infusions and stocks.
Ditto with the reliability/cost of ownership argument. EV’s are more costly to insure and Tesla’s have a very costly maintenance schedule cause after 10 years of work, they still can’t fix the spontaneous combustion problem. The bolt is just starting to realize it’s full pyro potential as well.
There is a reason why that survey in tree hugging, Tesla birthplace California shows 60% of EV owners are returned to ICE. They are not good or cost effective vehicles. And you can bet that rate will be higher in the northeast and Midwest as more EV owners have their honeymoon end.
Jake you need to take this in context. The Batteries are the major cost and they have dropped from $1500 KwH to below $100 KwH since 2015. Add to this the cars will take less parts and once fully developed they will be cheaper to move forward as with most electronics. Less parts also need less people to assemble. No transmissions or multi engines. No more Direct Injection. No more tubo system’s. No more displacement on demand.
The development cost on ICE has driven up cost of cars more than anything. It will only get worse.
While cars may not drop in price they will be cheaper to build and be more profitable. Automakers will be given an option to be more competitive in prices as they get cheaper to build.
There are some real issues yet and that is resale of an older tech EV. Will it be as worthless as an Apple 3 phone? WIll car companies start selling cars like Apple sells phones Could be.
We are yet to see a ton of things yet in the next 15 years.
FIrst thing you need to do is stop using the Bolt as an example as it really has nothing to do with future plans. It is out dated tech and just a matter of time before it is forgotten.
I get it you hate EV. That is fine. I make my living on ICE Racing so I am not thrilled either but I am not going to go around giving out miss leading info as it is not going to change anything.
It’s not just the batteries. Have you ever priced a new 100HP 3 phase eletric motor…. one without a transaxle? They are pricier than a car motor, all due to the copper windings. You can’t drop forge these windings like a crankshaft, or cast them like an engine block. They got to be carefully wound using one of the most sought after rare earth metals out there-copper. It’s expensive to acquire, it’s expensive to purify. And many of these EV’s have multiple motors!!! They could make them cheaper using aluminum windings, but then the efficiency would tank. There is nothing cheap about EV’s and it’s not just the battery. Also, battery price reduction has largely been to economies of scale. Scale is up enough that it won’t be able to bring the price down any lower.
Jake the scale these will be built on will make them cheaper. They all use a similar design and share parts.
Batteries will be to $36 per KWH soon from $1500 just 7 years ago. We are below $100 KWH now. Are you expecting them to be free?
The EV models lack the need for transmissions that have been major issues for the last 30 years, lack of many drive train parts, lack of turbo systems that are not cheap, lack of major aluminum parts from a heavier engine and more.
C8.R – Enjoy your comments. However, where do you get your cost per kilowatt hour (KwH) information? Current average price for the consumption charge of 1000 watts of electricity for one hour in my area is .14 cents.
Has anybody done an average total cost / benefit study, calculation and presentation on EV’s like Caterpillar has done on their equipment in their Performance Handbooks, now online?
Hope I am not to late for this thread, but where is the link for the current performance handbook. I would love to look at it.
It never ceases to amaze me when I hear the term that the “government” is paying for it. Exactly where do you think the “government” gets it’s money? Hint: It doesn’t come from a special tree.
Jake the loans were all paid back accept for the load Ford got $5.9 billion from the department of Energy.
As for grants and lesser funding they all get it on federal and local levels. None of it is enough to pay for what they are spending now.
GM did get $139 million in funds and that is just a tiny fraction of what’s needed. GM, for instance, is pushing forward with plans to spend $20 billion on electric and autonomous vehicle development through 2025. That money does not go very far.
The point is they have invested so much at this point they can’t just change every 4 years what direction they are going. Also the global auto market it going EV. To grow and sell new cars they will have to have product that will have ready what will meet regulations everywhere not just here.
There is enough miss leading info with out adding more.
Not the loans I’m talking about. Grants…. not loans. GM has had over 1 billion with a B in grants…. no need to repay Uncle Sam in the past 5 years.
Please provide the grants give to who from whom. Even stories from the Detroit Press would be acceptable if you can find one.
Jake
The Current Federal EV Tax Credits have been there since 2010.
GM and Tesla hit the 200,000 EV/PHEV sold Mark in 2018. Making there customers no longer eligible for any tax credits
Ford sold ~150,000. Nissan sold~170,000. The new F150 Lightning and new Nissan Ariya should push the companies over the 200,000 mark in 2022. No other major automaker builds EVs/PHEVs in the USA.
Toyota aint American why should they get a piece of the pie
Bingo
I’m Ridin’ with Biden!
Riding to where an underage kids house?
2024 can’t come soon enough! He’s horrible
This clown will be gone in 2024, he is the Jimmy Carter of the 21st century.
Please don’t insult Jimmy Carter
Dream on!
Dream on what? Joe is not running again in 24 so go troll somewhere else.
Come on man! Joe’s got a plan!!!! He doesn’t know he has a plan, or even what it is!
“carbon pollution-free”
Mining the minerals to make batteries is not carbon pollution-free. Manufacturing the batteries is not carbon pollution-free. Recycling spent batteries is not carbon pollution free. The generation of the electricity that will be required to keeps these batteries charged and usable is not carbon pollution free.
I’d even argue all this mineral mining, battery manufacturing, battery charging, battery recycling is more polluting than just drilling for oil, refining the oil, and using gasoline. What’s more, there are better options than using oil refined to gasoline. There is a company researching and testing a corn, sugar, water mixture, that is just as, or more, energy dense than gasoline, that burns approximately 50% or more cleaner than gasoline, give or take. Plus, there are hydrogen fuel cells and/or harvesting and refining methane from composting animal manure.
Using batteries to power everything is a terrible idea. A terrible idea that started way back with toy trains and race tracks. Used to be you bought either of these, you would assemble them and plug them into all wall outlet; play. The some idiot decided to cut the cord and use batteries; which constantly died, were thrown thrown away, rinse, repeat. Electric shavers, wireless computer mice and keyboards, same dang thing. So much battery pollution for no good reason.
When Joe sells his Vette he will have an ounce of credibility. Hey Joe, loose the ‘Joe Cool’ aviators, too.
The problem is this is no longer about saving the planet. It is about increasing the value of the automakers. At least to them.
GM stock never reached these levels pre. EV programs.
Automakers want to be seen high tech companies vs just as mfgs. Some may even move to just designing and engineering the vehicles and let some one else build them much like Apple does phones and computers.
This is far beyond environmental deals.
There is something in it for the automakers now that is why we saw the change.
C8.R. — Regarding your comments about Apple, they are also in the EV game big time. Apple is fevoriously developing their total autonomous vehicle and want to release it in five years. Apple has a Mt. Everest pile of free cash for this project. So everybody is now in a do or die marathon. That’s why the big automakers are going Hog Wild to get their products developed and out.
Apple will market their vehicles like Tesla. No dealers.
Watch for further consolidation in the industry like Stellantis.
No way. If Apple made a car, I’m absolutely certain the glitchy technology all the mindless tech worshipers can’t seem to get enough of would make me want to smash it to pieces in frustration like I’ve done with countless iPhones over the past decade as Apple’s Grand Plan is to gradually shorten battery life and all but brick them with ongoing iOS “updates” assuring high turnover.
By contrast, I never once had the urge to take a sledgehammer to any of my beloved Chevrolets, Buicks, Pontiacs, Fords or even the costly to maintain, always in the shop 1990 Infiniti Q45 I once had. The last thing the world needs is automobiles completely merging with tech as is the desire of so many clueless, tech obsessed people.
Adding insult to injury, the tech traitors would have every last one of their Apple cars built by their beloved slave labor force in China. They will never build in the USA, not ever.
Fools!
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Stop the madness
GM and the other automakers need to position themselves as technology companies to attract top talent. I’ve lived through this and it is a real challenge getting college students interested in what is largely viewed as “old” technology.
I think it’ll be like watches or clocks. Digital watches and clocks, though cheap, highly accurate, and reliable have never replaced the mechanical version as folks once thought. The masterpiece of craftsmanship, engineering, and precision of a fine mechanical watch are still prized among more affluent customers.
I see EVs that’ll be cheap to build and operate as the dominant propulsion method for lower priced, disposable type vehicles but the high-end will perhaps still use an internal combustion engine. The latter being equivalent to a mechanical timepiece with its precision engineering and mastery of design.
Of course gm is in relentless pursuit of EVs, like they similarly pursued FWD in the 1980’s, because they’re cheaper to build. As we all know that decision pretty much killed Cadillac and although they later changed course and relaunched RWD Caddies, it was really too late.
The real risk is if it become cheaper to build cars. We could see a flood off off brand cars flood the market like Harbor Freight tools from overseas.
Not a fwd fan but once the A,H body cars debut they sold much better than the rwd models they replaced, what got them was quality and inconsistencies with names and packages, we didn’t see massive market erosion until the late ’90s. Everyone is in a wait and see pattern to see if Joe gets his way by ’24.
Guestt,
I think what got them was deciding ALL cars needed to be FWD. For the mass market, they’re cheaper to build and more efficient so they did become the dominant configuration. For the luxury market though, pretty much everybody but GM realized RWD provides better balance, NVH properties, and is better suited to high-end cars. This killed Cadillac. Today’s. gm is again going all-in on EVs and after the novelty wears off, I think ICE might stay around for high-end products with cheap cars having batteries and running off of power not produced onboard.
I just can’t see a Ferrari having a Chinese battery pack. The magnificent engine and the experience of commanding it is what a car like a Ferrari is all about.
In the words of the Swedish Chef, Ferk Jer Berdin!
Ferk U Jrkoff
You can’t Ferk him, but he might let you Jrk him off if you ask nicely, Pate
You sound like you must be his bottom buddy!
That’s dominant power top to you, bub
Stop being a coward Edward use the real word instead of the pc word
Insurance in-case here’s reelected (which isn’t happening)…
Biden is such a douche bag asshole he doesnt even know what he is talking about there is no way for automobile companies to go all electric by 2035 the technology is not there. Electric vehicles are worse for the environment than gas vehicles
Far, far worse and not just from Lithium mining but Nickel, Copper and Cobalt too and that’s ignoring the manufacturing costs and the inability of the Electrical Distribution grid to carry all the power needed to recharge these power-suckers especially on a hot day when everyone’s A/C is humming. Watch, some moron will come on here now that is paid by the EV lobby and lie and claim they can be re-charged with home Solar….which is a huge lie.
Progressive left isn’t about substance, it’s about optics. They are betting that people are stupid enough to think that EV’s are pollution free. Looks like they are “saving the planet” and so the sheep just follow along.
People can do almost anything provided the proper motivation!
Wonder if Uncle Sam will mandate all contractors to have EV’s on federal jobsites and facilities. ???
Trump will rescind that stupid exec order in a little over 3 years . Biden is a Moron
Nah, he will be in the jailhouse!
If we let your party run things much longer, the jailhouses (like our southern border) will cease to exist – they’ll all be converted to Covid Detention Facilities for the unvaccinated (and/or Conservative Reeducation Camps) and “supervised safe heroin injection sites” while the “oppressed” demographic are given free reign to loot, plunder, rape and murder to their heart’s content. Let’s go Brandon!
You forgot smash and grab and release the thugs. A great democratic Sorros DA until it happens to the left and then it’s wrong…
Let’s Go Brandon!!!
There should be both evs and ice s.To cut and end that’s it .Clearly this guy never was a car guy ,or never knew? He just seems to through his weight around like a dictator. The science will prevail ,and people will see how far we’ve come to work together as a happy family.Science does evolve .God bless
What’s the flat rate to replace an Ultium battery? 1st you lift the body off the frame, then……………..
What’s the average life of a Lithium battery under average use and conditions? Will desert hot weather ( Southwest ), tropical warm weather ( Florida, deep South ) or Northern cold weather ( Minnesota, New England, Canada, Alaska, etc.), affect battery life? What is it’s average battery cost? Finally, what is the average cost to remove and install a Lithium battery? Or shop time hour amount in flat rate? Figure at $150.00 per hour.
Unanswered questions going into uncharted waters.
I do know that Tesla’s are wearing out tires approximately every 20K miles from their heavy vehicle weight due to the heavy battery weight and their electric motor torque friction action on the four rubber tires.
Electric motors are the best for torque. Just look at railroad locomotives, machine tools, large mining shovels, drag lines and large mine haul trucks.
Why cant I help thinking GM’s all or nothing approach to EV’s is going to bite a huge chunk out out their cheap ass’s. I have 0 confidence that this gang of hard core dull bureaucrats can pull it off.
Maybe GM can Hire Joe to run the EV program.
I just read an article that biden is placing Ole Corn Pop in charge of the electric division that he plans on standing up because he’s a bad man. I also heard he said “what did I just say?”
Hold on Joe is a street fighter! Joe gave Corn Pop a epic beat down with a chain! I seriously doubt Corn Pop has recovers from Joe’s mighty blows.
I do love my GM Corvette. It just saddens me that General Motors is such a liberal company simply because of taxpayers money handouts. An EV could never stand on its own.
As Red sad on that seventies show,
Joe you are a dumb ass
Joe Biden, God please help him for he does not know the science and the short, medium and long term affects of what he is doing and signing. Joe is signing Executive Orders written by others that are manipulating him like a puppeteer for their own enrichment. Follow the money. A blatant example of this is the Keystone XL pipeline construction halt.
We all know that the US President is the front man influenced and controlled by the Cabal. The greenies in the Cabal are clueless on climate change. Meanwhile the rest of the world, particularly Asia chugs along at open throttle / full bore.
Joe Biden, God please help him for he does not know the science and the short, medium and long term affects of what is doing and signing. Joe is signing Executive Orders written by others that are manipulating him like a puppeteer for their own enrichment. Follow the money. A blatant example of this is the Keystone XL pipeline construction halt.
We all know that the US President is the front man influenced and controlled by the Cabal. The greenies in the Cabal are clueless on climate change. Meanwhile the rest of the world, particularly Asia chugs along at open throttle / full bore.
thanks alot of information