The 2023 Cadillac Lyriq is poised to usher in a brand-new, all-electric era for the luxury marque, arriving as Caddy’s very first battery-driven production vehicle. Now, we’re getting a look at some of the design details of the new luxury EV thanks to the GM Design team.
The new photos depict a range of angles for the new all-electric crossover, including the exterior and inside the cabin. In terms of design, the 2023 Cadillac Lyriq looks a lot like the Lyriq show car, which debuted last year in mostly production-intent form. The final production design includes sharp lines and geometric shapes, with sleek body panels broken up by hard indents and chiseled surfaces.
The front end is highlighted by vertical lighting signatures in the corners of the bumper, while thin upper lighting signatures bookend the top grille line. The grille itself bears the same shape as the Cadillac crest. Complementary lighting design can be found in the tail, as well.
Inside, the Cadillac Lyriq incorporates a broad infotainment screen, which stretches across the dash in a similar fashion as the infotainment screen in the all-new 2021 Cadillac Escalade SUV. Sizing for the Lyriq’s infotainment screen is measured at 33 inches. High-quality switchgear and touch points abound.
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The production-ready 2023 Cadillac Lyriq debuted in April, offering a standard 100-kWh GM Ultium lithium-ion battery pack and single Ultium Drive permanent magnet electric motor. Output is rated at 340 horsepower and 325 pound-feet of torque, with range-per charge rated at 300 miles. Under the skin, the Lyriq rolls on the GM BEV3 electric vehicle platform.
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Pricing for the new 2023 Cadillac Lyriq starts at $59,990 in the U.S. market. Order books are set to open September 18th. Production will take place at GM’s Spring Hill assembly plant in Tennessee, ramping up in Q1 of the 2022 calendar year.
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Beautiful details. The Lyriq is without a doubt one of the best, if not the best looking in the segment.
Lyriq is a looker, but to be successful it will need more than looks.
Amazing Job, Cadillac. Futuristic styling, beautiful interior with high-quality materials, and innovation. This is great for Cadillac, a brand that’s been struggling for decades. The LYRIQ is the beginning of a new era for Cadillac.
This is the lowest end trim of the Cadillac LYRIQ. There will be more trims coming soon, which will be more expensive and similar to the concept.
U mean the second passenger’s side in the back?
Yup I agree with you justin!
Mohammad Wadud: Yeah, the LYRIQ is awesome. Very excited for the CELESTIQ.
Nice looking car, but as with all EV’s the real questions come down to Range, Charging Speed, and Efficiency. This is the first 3 metrics which all EV’s should be measured.
300 miles puts the Lyric among those EVs with the longest ranges you can get today. Its show car styling puts it in its own class; I expect it to give the Cadillac brand a big boost in the marketplace.
300 miles is more than 25% behind the Tesla model S, which is EPA rated at 412, and keep in mind the Model S is AWD, and has a smaller battery. The new X, which is not EPA tested yet, but far larger than Lyriq will likely be around 360 miles , so 20% more than Lyriq, for a larger, AWD, 7 seat vehicle.
Audi has said 2023 E-Tron (2023 same model year as Lyriq) will be getting a boost in range well over 300 miles. That is a direct competitor, and Audi currently has the flattest , and most convenient charging curve in any EV on the road today.
Both the Model S and Lyriq have 100 kWh battery packs.
The Lyriq is larger and has more bold styling.
The Lyriq also is not rated yet by the EPA and GM is stating 300+ miles, not 300 miles exactly.
We don’t know its final efficiency or range numbers.
This is true, although refresh Model S is 100 kWh gross, Net is around 95kWh, So Tesla took about 5kWh out from the old Model S 100 series. We do not have final numbers or Lyriq yet, but with 5600 lbs, compared to 4650 lbs, but we can make some educated assumptions. GM also uses hairpin wound motors, vs Tesla true wire wound motors, and Tesla uses induction motors in the front (except Plaid) as they can be deactivated during normal driving, and only activated when the performance is needed, GM is only doing permanent magnet, so when they are at low throttle, GM still has to drive both motors for AWD which is less efficient .
The Model S’s old pack was around 104 kWh.
Real Cadillac owners never drive over 200 miles in one long trip, so a 300 mile range is more than enough. In my case I don’t drive 300 miles in a month! Anyway, a Tesla owner would never buy a Cadillac. Both are for different markets.
Might be true, but Cadillac owners are dying off… and Tesla owners still being born, what does that tell you? I guess that is again why Tesla is growing 50% a year and Cadillac barely hanging on outside of Escalade.
Tesla and Musk are going down. It’s a matter of time. They should enjoy their success in the market place for now, and once GM ramps up, Tesla is on the wane. Their product is nothing special, just an expensive toy for the sudo rich. PlaySchool type plastics inside and boring simplistic interior/exterior styling make the Tesla a boring choice. Their shortcomings will be more evident as time goes on.
Agree with Walt. Current model Tesla’s look generic, vanilla, plain Jane. That laptop looking device on the dash appeals to the current Tesla buyers. Musk and his team have initially successfully targeted the liberal, geek, techie, flavor of the moment buyers. This will wane in time.
EV’s are flavor of the moment things now. Just like home fall out shelters were in the post war fifties and sixties era during the atomic age.
You will see continued success of the hybrids. GM going all in for pure electrics is a mistake. In time they will modify their business plan.
Chinese and the Japanese will continue to eat our lunch as both have been pretty successful in doing so already. The Japanese are very disciplined and tech savvy. Meanwhile the Americans have been floundering and have contracted a case of the lazies. Just look at how poor customer service has become on all fronts compared to 40 years ago when America was king of the Hill. This Covid thing has set us back 30 years. Meanwhile we live in rampant inflation, ethnic, energy, climate, immigration, and political turmoil the likes of which have never been seen before. God help us!
love the design
after you’ve shown what the vehicle is going to look like. what is the point? sort of like the new z that came out yesterday.
You’ll probably have to buy the Platinum to get an interior not dominated by black, if they offer one at all.
Black interiors / exteriors are OK in the Rust Belt, East and upper Midwest. However they are toasters in the West and Southwest. You don’t want a black interior or black exterior, or both, if you live in Arizona, New Mexico, Socal, or Nevada. Black is a sun absorber. White, pastels, 10X’s cooler, and don’t show the dirt.
Ralph – the introductory model as shown in the pictures is not available with all black interior. It will be a later option.
As shown for $60k.
Stop complaining about information that isn’t accurate. Makes you look foolish.
I said dominated by black, not all black. Almost all Cadillacs now have mostly-black dashes and carpet, and many have black headliner and seatbacks. Who’s being foolish?
I had read that there were two color options for the interior gray & black.
This is a nice looking vehicle no matter what the drive. It beats the heck out of a Tesla with the no detail nose it has.
This will be a challenge for designers of EV cars. How to shape the nose and face while still giving it some style vs a void face.
Well GM has some experience with Saturn. xD
Tesla’s are fast, efficient, and full of tech… Oh, and on the market… This Cadillac, while looking promising, is not there yet.
Would you buy this Cadillac with more style, if it was slower, charged slower, and 25% less efficient than a Tesla Model S? That right there is the big question, what matters to customers? We see in entry segments and trucks fuel economy is a huge metric, being ever 5% off is a death blow for a model, but on this Caddy, I am thinking it will be 25% worse than Model S, Slower, Heavier, and less capable. Cadillac usually wins on performance and handling (superior capability at a lower price), in this case I am doubting that will be the case. So can Cadillac win on design, alone?
Doubting Don, I would not yet assume the Lyric will be lacking in performance. One spot where the Lyric will be clearly superior to Tesla is with self-driving tech, Super Cruise being superior to Tesla’s dangerous Auto Pilot.
The biggest problem is it’s still a GM vehicle most people know they are all crap. GM will be begging for another bailout soon after they see nobody wants there crap ev
You are on drugs if you think A/P is not as good as Supercruise. Supercruise is geofenced to only divided highways, A/P works everywhere. Supercruise is good where it works, but no better at lane centering.
We know Lyriq will be down on performance because it is heavy… 5600 lbs in RWD config… Ouch, that is heavier than E-tron
Donvanan: Yeah, but Super Cruise is not as dangerous as Tesla Autopilot.
Define dangerous? Supercruise has 10 million miles of documented testing, and a few crashes.. A/P has 6 billion miles of testing (500X more) and a few more crashes. Now interesting, the government is investigating 11 A/P crashes, but half of those Tesla drivers were drunk, and 1 sleeping… Hard to blame the driver assist when the driver is drunk or sleeping, right?
Defining dangerous – with Auto Pilot, Tesla knowingly designed an imperfect system, putting drivers of their cars in the position of essentially being beta testers for the company. And a number of Tesla drivers lulled into thinking the system was capable into being more perfect than it is have been killed.
GM’s Super Cruise system only operates on hundreds of thousand miles of roads that have been mapped using laser-radar technology, allowing the car to know exactly where it is. The system will not work on roads that are not mapped.
There is nothing ambiguous with Super Cruise, which cannot be said about Auto Pilot. And that in a nutshell explains why Super Cruise is clearly safer than Auto Pilot.
Yet S/C crashed more often than A/P statistically. Lets then look at abuse cases, of the 11 A/P crashed being investigated now, 6 were given DUI, and 1 was sleeping. That is clearly abuse of the system, and not necessarily the systems fault.
“Abuse of the system’ is a sugar-coated way of dismissing corporate responsibility for letting out into the pubic domain a driving control system which Tesla knew was imperfect. Dangerously so. Had GM done this, you’d be calling them criminal. And you’d be right.
Statistics – how does the Super Cruise death count compare with that for Auto Pilot?
Super cruise needs to pile on about 500X more miles before we make that comparison, Tesla gaining more A/P miles a day than Supercruise has in its existence..
Now I agree A/P needs better nannies, without a doubt Tesla has a higher risk threshold than GM…
Don’t judge a book by its cover, the Cadillac looks it could be slow on paper but you still haven’t driven it. And there’s an Awd variant that is going to come out that will give more power and torque, and likely more ev range, this has 1 rear moter that puts out 300 miles of range which is good for a 1 moter ev SUV that weighs 5,600lb, but I think the dual moter will allow more power and better range close to 400miles maybe but it will weigh more.
What? Dual motor going to give more range? Making a car heavier, and driving all the wheels does not make it go further… and GM’s EV strategy is bad when it comes to AWD, for some technical reasons you likely will not understand.
It will give more range but it won’t be much because it will be limited by the weight.
To be clear awd on electric drivetrain vehicles work differently compared to ice powered cars. When you floor the throttle, the power comes out to all 4 wheels at the same time, while gas cars, the power comes to the rear wheels first to the front if it’s a rwd based car or front to rear if it’s a fwd based car which results less superior launch compared to the electric awd, and also the instant torque curb too. The lyriq performance will be enhanced with awd even though there’s no hiding the fact that it’s a heavy SUV.
What, are you stoned? In EV’s there are 2 things that really matter for efficiency, mass and aerodynamic drag, Lyriq does not excel in either area.
Adding AWD to Lyriq will hurt the range, especially with GMs reliance on permanent magnet motors which cannot at any time freewheel. Tesla uses permanent magnet motors in back and induction motors in front (except in the Plaid) which helps in light throttle as they do not power the front motor and it freewheels along until needed. Lyriq is not heavy, or chunky, it’s way too heavy for that case of vehicle.
Oh so I have the wrong logic.
It would be nice if GM could pay there bailout money back
They paid it off completely in 2018. Ford still hasn’t.
Ford never took bailout money please don’t spread fake news thanks.
Ford took private financing, which it still has not paid back in full, so you are both right, kinda!
Private financing is way different then crying begging the public to bail you out then turning around spitting i. The face of your customer base who saved you from going under.
Private funding is NOT taxer payer funding. Yeah yeah banks get our money too but….
That was true Ford did not because they had already taken out large loans of their own before the S hit the fan. But they jimmied up to the table with the other 2 in congress hearings since they knew if the other went under and their suppliers they may too since they alone..Ford could not keep them all afloat! It is funny when folks put em all in the same pod.
Nebula you do understand that the Obama administration placed $13.7 billion in a escrow account to pay fees for the bankruptcy proceedings and that is what gm used to pay back the so called loans. So they paid back tax payer loans with more tax payer $. But sure I’ll play along with you in this case technically they did pay it back even though it was more tax payer $.
And yes they did. Its amusing because many don’t realize how much more than GM would have been affected if they went under not to mention the loss of 2 manufacturers. Just think of all those Hell cats that would never have been sold still after the fact!
You have no idea what you are talking about please stop you are making yourself out to be a bigger fool then we all know you are. Not 1 single person agreed with you because everyone sees how stupid you are
They did!
lol hey if it makes you feel better about the situation then sure government motors paid there loan back with more tax payer money 🙂
Beautiful, best I have seen. But not a prospective buyer of any first year production. We will be looking to replace our Tesla by 2022-23.
Lyriq is pretty, but I am not thinking it will be a Tesla replacement yet, unless you want to trade down is performance and efficiency. I am not there yet, even bing a big GM fan and investor, they still have to present value. .
To me, the Model Y is a closer rival than the Model S. On paper, the Lyriq compares favorably. We know a 4wd V(?) version will follow this rwd launch version. From what I’ve read, charge times and range should be pretty close. The interior blows away any Tesla IMHO. Your mileage may vary…
Model Y AWD weighs 4400lbs, and has a 75 kWh Battery and 326 miles of EPA range, Lyric in RWd weighs 5600lbs, OUCH! Thats E-Tron territory, too heavy.
Actually, isn’t the Model X the bigger one and the Y the compact suv? Pretty sure I read that that one of those is ~5000lbs.
Model X Plaid is a 7 seater, and much larger then Lyriq, it weighs 5200 lbs in Plaid trim, with AWD, 3 motors and 1000 hp
So much larger than Lyriq, much more powerful, AWD, and still 10% lighter, oh, and more aerodynamic.
The X is $20k more than the Lyriq to begin with. Styling wise, the Lyriq is a standout, unique in a world full of jelly bean designs such as the homely Model X which looks like a bloated Model S.
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The X is bigger, more powerful, 7 seats, so ya, add a few options to Lyriq, and see how that price holds up
I was encouraged then I saw GM is replacing the batteries in the Bolt. They realize that they can’t have failure with the EV line if they want to show they are a leader in this area.
It may mean that the first people buying the GM EV models may see a level of service the rest of us wish we would get.
I agree with this comment, however, GM should have replaced the batteries right away like Hyundai did (Also a victim of Bad LG cells) . Instead they made it 6 months of inconvenience for customers and got embarrassed with more fires. GM got to the right decisions, but not fast enough to be impressive. GM had no choice when government officials cars start burning.
GM couldn’t replace all the batteries immediately anyway. They have to build up cells and set them aside for Replacement. The software fix was a diagnostic tool that constantly scanned the cars for bad packs. It worked for some but it didn’t catch them all. It was to give GM more time to build out replacement packs as needed. Now it’s all hands on deck in getting proven good packs to customers.
Replacing the packs starts with a decision to do so. What is really going on behind the scenes is LG and GM are fighting about the cost, and what has to be done. GM also underestimated how bad the flaws were, and how quickly fires were propagating. GM is now doing the right thing, which I think is great, but they could have made the decision and announcement 6 months ago before they were embarrassed by additional fires (Hyundai handled it better). GM management put their relationship with LG above their customers, which I think is a bad choice in hindsight.
I would rather buy a vehicle from a manufacturer that will not require me to rely on their customer service/dealer to keep my vehicle on the road. Not shopping gm.
but you are hanging out on a GM based blog, you must have a very boring life…?
There is no such thing. Even Tesla has to repair a lot of cars and they are seldom close or convenient.
My Tesla was delivered with 11 minor defects, once those were repaired it has been nails, has not needed anything, and the software updates are awesome… People who own Tesla’s understand there is something special when you car gains new features and capabilities overnight while you sleep. Like waking up to a new car a couple times a months… Sometimes its more power, or more efficient, sometimes its new video games, sometimes its different fart sounds. When people like you bash on Tesla, you just don’t get it… But there is a good reason Tesla is growing 50% per year and their customers are more passionate about the product then people in GM’s cars that never gain new features or performance unless you pay for it. GM gets it now, and is changing, but GM is way late to the party.
My Acadia was delivered with no defects. I also have no need for video games or Musk farts.
The reason Tesla sales increases are so large is they were selling so few cars and models compared to most. When you are starting out you will see big gains.
The real test that is coming is once the larger MFG get fully into production and offer many more alternatives to the only fish in a small segment.
Tesla did prove people would pay more for an EV than most though if you made a decent looking car. But beyond that for the most part they have lived on hype and over promised under delivered promises. Their build quality is not good. They have left the styling on the S model rot and it is where much of the money was coming from. The X was late, the 3 was even later and the truck is going to be much more later. The semi. They forget to talk about that now that it too is late.
Late products will be not forgiven when the other mfg promise cars and deliver on time and not make people wait 4 years to get them.
What GM models will do will be determined as they have not arrived. They too will have over the air updates and what GM chooses to do with it will be determined. I am sure they will not deliver Mary Farts.
There is no late to the party as the market is just starting. GM knows this is a marathon and not a sprint and there is no getting this wrong as the market will not be as forgiving on EV models. Also once GM starts to release models they will introduce more in one year than Tesla has all together.
The deal here is while Tesla did well as a market of one it is still not to late that they may not fail. The auto history is littered with once great car companies that in the end failed. A Tesla Man may one day relate to a Packard Man. I don’t expect that but never say never. No one is beyond failure.
My point is Tesla is going to have to step up better than they have on new models and on time deliveries as the cult status could end up like the koolaide drinkers in Guyana.
C8.R, Lets’ see what the market thinks of your Acadia? Sell it and see what you get?
I will sell my Y, they are going for about 15% more then I paid new right now, and mine is lower miles than any I have seen online, and has been more loved as I paint correct all my cars when I buy them. You think Tesla’s are more expensive, then you are calculating wrong. My Tesla has paid me to own it…
Wow, I thought they just paid you to comment, you got a car, too!
Yea he has a gmc with a plastic interior like everyone else
I do have a GMC too, Not for long though, as HummerEv should be out soon, and then we can be all EV…
Yes, I bought a Tesla Y last year, best EV on the market in that price class by far… Although the Hyundai Ioniq 5 is a new challenger, it seems.
I paid 49K for mine with 1 year of free supercharging, and 3 months of free FSD, The FSD is worthless IMO, but the car is great, by far the car I drive the most, and like the most in our garage. BTW, take a look at online car shopping and see what my Y sells for used today? haha! You will see what I mean…
I noticed the doors on the Lyriq are motorized to open by touching the outside door handles. Are they also closed by the same motor or do they close as a normal car doors? Would be a neat feature if they are auto closing.
Lyriq has soft close doors, similar to many other cars including Audi E-Tron from 2019…. The only car with real door openers that I know of is the Tesla X… Its pretty cool, but a gimmick feature.
I think the refresh of the Model X is getting rid of those gullwing doors.
NOPE… Falcon wings are still there on the refresh models which have been spotted all over around Fremont.
The Falcon wings were not what I was talking about though, the model X front doors also self open and close (in theory you never have to touch the door when you get in and out)
Beautiful! More art less science, the car has emotions!
Wow, Donavan is a Tesla fan boi! Good for him, how will he continue to post when middle school starts next week?
Not a Tesla fan boy at all… But you have to give credit where credit is due. Tesla builds the best EV’s on the market. Tesla does not build the nicest looking, or most luxurious, but they do build the longest ranges, highest efficiency, and best charging.
Hyundai is getting close with the Ioniq 5, which is looking good.
Tesla still can’t put a car together without giant gaps, falling bumpers, exploding sunroofs, etc. The do, however, have great technology.
My Model Y is not perfect, but neither was my Cadillac CTS-V which started leaking oil out of the engine block (due to casting porosity) at 7000 miles, and when I heard GM’s fix was to coat the back of the block with JB Weld to fix it, I figured it was time for that car to go park in someone else’s garage and leak oil. My CTS-V also had thin paint down on the rocker panels, you could see the spray pattern when you washed it which is pretty lame for a supposed luxury car. GM fans complaining about Tesla quality (which has gotten much better the last couple years) is akin to throwing stones in a glass house.
Keep in mind, GM’s Ultra Cruise is coming out and will be semi-autonomous like the Tesla Autopilot.
Tesla does not have semi autonomous systems, A/P is a level 2 ADAS system, same as Supercruise
Wow Donovan:
Reading all your comments in this particular column you have been a busy person today. I enjoy your technical input and perspective. Your comments today seem to favor you to be a mole for Tesla.
We need to taste and savor the Lyriq before we can factually argue the vehicle against any other make(s).
The Lyriq launch and success will be interesting. This will be a monumental move for gm. There will be initial kinks as with any new model, or form of transport.
We lived through a lot of these. Just got through the long and painful 737 Max ordeal.
EV’s are intriguing. They will have their nitch place. I’ve been through the former GM plant in Fremont, California, after Musk purchased it and converted it to Tesla vehicle production, just before C 19. Musk triggered the industry for EV’s. I don’t see EV’s as the universal panacea. However, I respect Musk and Tesla, what they have done and are doing.
As a fan of planes, trains, trucks and automobiles, and their histories, I will be watching with curiosity and interest, enjoying the spirit of competition and this new trend.
gm is at a monumental crossroads. With the new federal long term national plan, and gm’s 2035 objective, I still find somewhat suspect.
Lee Ioccoca, RIP, favorite automaker was Honda. At this historic motor vehicle crossroads we should be watching Toyota and Honda more closely in their medium and long term objectives. They are cautiously not going all in on EV’s. Will be interesting.
Huh? man, you are all over the place… When it comes to EV’s GM is not a leader (yet), but GM needs some criticism whether new EV products are not even competitive with the competitions existing products. Constructive criticism is good, I certainly do not hate GM, and make spiteful comments, my comments are to point out that even GM’s new products are not leading their markets, and from a technical standpoint it seems GM is being lazy, and instead of developing great and class leading products, they are happy with so so. This is not going to work in the future where people talk and compare notes on social media. There is no place to hide an inferior product. Now Lyriq looks nice, and from a design standpoint is a winner, but is that what customers are longing for? The best selling EVs are not nice looking, but they serve their purpose very well. Every product Tesla has introduced has been class leading in its segment in efficiency, range and charging, and Tesla is growing at over 50% per year while Cadillac is shrinking, do you suppose GM should try to make a class leading product for Cadillac instead of settling for so so? I think so… GM has a huge opportunity to remake their reputation, and the Bolt battery fiasco is not the way to start.
Strange how Rick comes in the GM Authority’s chat, saying that he’ll replace his Tesla soon, then says it won’t a GM product. What was the point of coming here anyways?
Probably because he likes cars and still enjoys reading the content. Just because you aren’t considering buying a vehicle from a certain manufacturer doesn’t mean it’s not interesting to see what they have going on.
Very impressive. Looking forward to full Celestiq reveal.
Anxiously awaiting first test-drive report for Lyriq.
Getoffmynutz: Well, GM payed it off. Maybe you should quit hiding facts.
Lol wait you mean out of the 52 billion they received they only paid back 6.7 billion is that the fact you were talking about that was hiding?
I sit I know the hidden facts you were referring to. You must of meant the fact that the Obama administration placed $13.7billion in an escrow to pay fees for the bankruptcy proceedings and that is what government motors used to pay back the so called “loans”. Not much of a payback when you are paying it back with more tax payer $ is this the hidden fact?
After reading the comments above, the one thing that is missing and I ask myself is this: What will that front end (grille) look like after 50K of bug smashing miles? I grew up in the mid-west where the bugs in summertime are huge and you can’t drive 5 miles without spending the next 30 minutes cleaning all the bugs off. For anyone who knows what I’m talking about, you will understand. So if you don’t clean the bugs off and allow them to “bake” on, then they stain the paint/trim/plastics. Don’t believer me? Look it up. Next, you need to be quite careful in cleaning them off. Chrome? Not much of a problem. Painted surfaces more so. But the worst I’ve encountered is plastics and a clear type plastic would be the hardest of all.
So I’m not against the styling of this car, but I certainly don’t think it’s the best Cadillac has had or can do. But more than anything, I don’t think they gave an ounce of thought to what I mentioned above. Give this car 3 years and/or 50K and that front end will probably look terrible.
Let really look at this in real terms.
I live in the mid West and know the bugs well here.
#1 no matter what wast your car more than once a month.
#2 if they do bake on there are cleaners and polish for paint and plastics that will clean it up.
#3 Chrome today is a greater issue. First off the chrome is plastic. The stone from the mid west roads do more unrepairable damage than bugs. It flakes and breakers the chrome. You can’t touch it up or clean that. I know I have two vehicles with chrome noses.
These are not the cars of your youth and as they have changed so have detailing products and while they are different they are not impossible to maintain.
C8.R: I can’t agree. Sorry. I just drove from California to IL and back in a 2018 Buick Encore last year (August of 2020). That’s not light years ago. By the time I got to IL, I had so much bug debris covering the entire front of my car and I immediately cleaned the car. Same for when I returned to California. I was detailing bugs out of places for months and there were some that I couldn’t fully remove without hazing the paint. I work at a dealership and know fully well the cleaners of today and proper ways to detail a car. I even did detail work on the side for a couple years in 2005/2006. Ad to that the fact that I keep my personal cars impeccable and always have people asking me if my cars are brand new. I only say all that because your post seems to indicate that I’m lost in the 70’s.
So yes, lets really look at this in real terms. The reality is that most people do not keep their cars as nice as I do or maybe you do. Most people think running a car through a car wash is “good enough”. Most drivers will never have a car properly detailed in the time they own/lease that car. Now, when it comes to plastics? From what I’m seeing on this Lyriq, it looks to be a tinted clear type of plastic. Scratches? Hazing? Getting brittle over time and cracking/crows feet? Then take this car to a car wash where most of the people working there could care less or are 16 years old and ask them to properly clean it? Come on. We both know what the front of this car will look like after 5 years.
Most people never go through a car wash.
Dan you or I have not even seen this new car but based on the materials out there it is not going to be a problem.
You present a doom and gloom situation that will not be common.
I have large sections of black plastic on one GM vehicle now and it has not proven problematic. In fact it holds up better than chrome plastic.
C8.R: I’m not going to go back and forth with you on this. I made a comment that I feel is relevant and will be a problem. You seem to want to slice and dice every word that I’m saying. Not going there. You have your opinion and I have mine. Let’s leave it at that. I wasn’t sounding some alarm or doom and gloom as you say. Now, can we move on to more important subjects?
Well it is not relevant so cry about it some more.
Show us some form follows function. Where’s the beauty amidst the nonsense? Where’s the actual daring greatly? If you’re going to go overboard on the details, make it memorable instead of “iighting signatures” resembling static on the TV. Bring back the Wreath and Crest. Bring back the Art.
For those touting the Model X as much bigger, the dimension comparison is as follows. Model X vs Lyriq
Length: 198.3 vs 196.7, Width: 78.7 vs 77.8, Height: 66.3 vs 63.9, Wheelbase: 116.7 vs 121.8, Weight: 5185 up to 5648 vs 5610. In the world of cars that’s about as apples to apples as you can get. Model X is an inch and a half longer, one inch wider, height is more a styling difference, but 2.5″ for the Model X. Regarding weight, the X, while more mature, has better data, I suspect the Lyriq will have a range depending on drivetrain and other options. Tesla is about to have competition it’s never experienced before, can they endure is the real question, innovate or die is the new mantra in the automotive OEM world.
Greg:
I just bought a new Bolt EUV (2022) for two reasons:
1). Wider and seems much more substantial than the 2017 Bolt EV I traded in.
2). Fantastic trade in values at the moment.
But Since I own 3 plug-ins, Your dimensional comparison of the Lyriq with the Tesla “X” makes me like the Lyriq even more.. While only driving plug-ins, I have always longed for a much larger vehicle and this Cadillac Lyriq seems like the vehicle I want… I like stripped vehicles so an under $60,000 MSRP is Music to my ears..
Classy inside and out, and FINALLY a reasonably priced 100 kwh DECENTLY sized vehicle. Unless there is something really bad about it to be seen in person, I can’t believe I won’t eventually own one of these highly-prized vehicles.
Thanks Greg for the VERY INFORMATIVE dimensional comparison.
Tesla battery packs appear to be lower in height than GM’s, so I suspect (fear) the Lyriq will feel more like a raised sedan inside than a C/SUV. Cramped headroom and seats closer to the floor.
GM is definitely not late to the EV market, they’re ahead of all the automakers (except Tesla) with its EV plans. GM will be the first automaker to have an EV truck on the market, the GMC Hummer EV.
Lol what are you smoking I want some.
GM is not late, their timing is great, but need to build class leading products. Hummer will sell to a small fan base on its looks and capabilities, but never going to be a volume product, Silverado EV needs to be perfect, as GM will not get aways with sins on that one. Silverado Ev needs to have class leading features and efficiency.
Donavan: 100% agree with everything you said. Affordable and high volume EVs is definitely in the works, will arrive before 2025. And yes, the Silverado EV needs innovation like features and tech.
Don’t forget the tesla cost waaaaay more than the caddy.
Will GM work out the fires on the Bolt? How much money will they lose because of this? Will the Lyriq suffer from these problems?I know what I red that they suggest parking the car outside. It seems all EV’s suffer from this, only look at the fires on Tesla’s. I would like a Lyriq but I think I will just wait. And you know about the chip being short in supply.
Lucid Motors, Motor Trend car of the Year! 520 miles on a charge.GM has to do better on Range!
And currently that Lucid Air Dream Edition costs 169k, while the Lyriq costs 60k, and the base Lucid with 406 mile range not even produced yet will cost 77k.
GM will have Gen 2 Ultium batteries out with longer range in the not to distant future as well.