A class-action lawsuit filed against General Motors in Oregon has been allowed to continue through the courts after GM’s motion to dismiss the claim was denied.
The American automaker had a class-action lawsuit filed against it in the U.S. District Court for the District of Oregon, Portland Division in February of 2020. The plaintiff in the suit, William Martell, alleges the 5.3L LC9 V8 engine in the 2011 Chevy Silverado pickup he purchased new in 2011 has various issues related to excessive oil consumption. The suit is nearly identical to numerous other class action proceedings filed against GM in recent years, which allege certain engines in the 5.3L Vortec V8 engine family have several issues that cause them to burn oil at a higher than usual rate.
According to Car Complaints, Judge Michael H. Simon denied GM’s request to have the Oregon class action suit thrown out last week. GM had attempted to a warranty breach claim dismissed as the suit apparently did not mention any engine defects that would be covered by the automaker’s express warranty. The automaker’s express warranty coverage only applies to manufacturing defects, and GM has in the past successfully argued that the oil consumption defect is related to the Vortec V8 engine’s design and not a manufacturing defect or faulty component. The judge denied GM’s claim this time after scrutinizing the language in its implied warranty for “about 10 pages,” Car Complaints reports.
The judge also dismissed other motions filed by GM to have the suit thrown out, which were related to a claim of fraudulent concealment and a claim under the Oregon Unlawful Trade Practices Act.
GM has had several class-action lawsuits filed against it over alleged oil consumption issues with the Vortec V8 engine. The majority of these suits have been dismissed by judges, including a nationwide class action suit filed in Ohio in 2019.
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Pretty sad when have to stoop to the good build of a bad design defense to screw your customers.
I drove one for 8 years, never had an issue with oil. It’s all how you drive it. My Ford escape burned more oil.
Got one right now, 196k on the motor. Burns 1 quart every 5000k. That’s to be exspected at its age. I’ve towed on road and off-road extensively. Great motor. A little shy on power by today’s standards. This is what happens when you let your sales and legal team define problems with your products instead of the engineers. There’s no design defect with this motor. Just poor oil and maintenance.
Jake I’m sorry to say that I have a 5.3 liter v8 that has an oil consumption issue since about 24-25k miles started simply enough about one quart per 2500 miles I change my oil every 3000 miles due to the fact I live in the city and drive about 1100 miles a month my current oil consumption rate is about one quart per 800 miles I’m a automotive technician and use the correct oil and change regularly. Glad you got one of the good ones
NATHANIEL PRIOLEAU HELLO Joseph. While it may be true that you were the owner of a Successful GM Vehicle most of the Customers that are complaining are honest about there problems.I have bought a New 2015 Silverado 1500 L/S with the 4.3 Vortex engine and I had to add 1 quart from the very beginning at about 2000 miles into the oil change I find that this is very destriving for a $30.000 Vehicle!
What year is yours? I’m looking at buying an older used one 2008
GM should stand behind it’s products they know there valve cover for the pvc was flawed otherwise they wouldn’t of redesigned it.
Instead they hide behind lawyers and warranty language to rip off there customers. I personally know several people with this issue ,the once most reliable engines are gone.
Not to mention 2.4 oil burning,3.6 timing chain issues and 5.3 oil burning
Joe I’m right with you on the 5 3’s, the 2.4 in 3.6 timing chain problems. I love my GM’s but they don’t stand behind the product. I had owned a used car business with a repair shop and we had purchased g m vehicles with the above engines. It’s a shame that took 6 and 7-year-old vehicles with 120,000 mi on them are going to have the timing chains jump it’s an interference motor so that bangs the valves on top of the pistons. If GM could see their customers crying with tears running because they have three to four years worth of payments left and they want $2,900 to fix the motor. GM says their 5W-30 synthetic oil to be used and oil changes every 4,000 mi. But that was a message only sent to the GM stores and not to the public. So if you follow your owner’s manual you can definitely get yourself in trouble. And getting your oil changed at Walmart or some of the fast lube places may have jeopardized your motor.
Robert, I started buying Gmc trucks in 2002, never had a problem with any of them till I bought my 13, yes it uses a quart of oil between oil changes, I’ve changed my oil religiously every 3 thousand miles and babied my truck, had lifters collapsed on it at 130 thousand miles, I rebuilt the engine my self and it run smoother than it ever has, I still own it, but I will never buy another gm product again… Bought a new F-150 this time, so don’t tell me it’s the way you drive or maintain it….bad product….
gM has no issues with suing Ford or anyone else.
But is sad their customers have to sue gM to replace a poorly designed product.
This is why “ we earn customers for life” only exists in fantasy land Mary Barra.
I AN 76 YRS OLD HAVE DRIVEN GM CARS AND TRUCKS ALL MY LIFE WITH VERY LITTLE TROUBLE. THE KEY TO A CAR OR TRUCK IS TO TAKE CARE OF THE MAINTENANCE ON TIME. SOME PEOPLE WON’T DO THE MAINTENANCE AND THEN CRY WHEN THEY HAVE TROUBLE.
Most of these oil burning issues is a manufacturing defect in properly machining the block and or ring design. I have seen it with Chrysler minivans as well. When you see a whole series of these complaints, it has nothing to do with how you drive it or maintenance. While it is true that you can hurt an engine by not changing the oil. You can tell that’s not the case when you get a group of very specific engines that do this. I’d bet that a quick ball hone and a new set of rings would solve the problem.
My hypothesis for which I have been body slammed on this site is that the engine families developed in the decade preceding the 2008 collapse are not great designs. New GM keeps trying to polish the 5.3 3.6 etc to keep from investing in better engines but they are polishing a turd. I will be interested to see if the newer motors such as 2.7L and 3.0L diesel are better. I certainly hope so
Hell no. The 5.3/6.2 are still the best V8 out there. Ask anyone who has tried to work on the 5.0. No better gas mileage, only better power past 4000rpm, and if you have any problem at all, even reaching spark plugs or a sensor is impossible as its massive DOHC design makes it almost the size of a duramax. There is a reason why fords new 7.3 is a pushrod.
I agree that the 5.3 is due for an upgrade, but the reason is hasn’t gotten one is beacause what is its competition? The HEMI? Tuned for 89, not regular 87 and Dynos reveal a 20HP drop on 87 at the wheels!
Fords 5.0 or 2.7? The 5.0 is priced higher, and makes less power down low. Really it’s more of a comparison with the 6.2 where it looses. The 2.7? Way more complex engine, know to having long term reliability issues and in terms of fuel economy, real life results are not any better than the 5.3.
Why change? That said, I do hope for some updates here soon.
Sometimes a polished turd shines better than a fresh turd…since all man made engines and products in general fail many while most succeed…5.7 is the oldest turd on the planet and baby does it still shine..A combustion engine does not need to change displacement or basic block and head design to excel..Actual data suggests you can continue to update and create more efficiency working from a base line…
To start from scratch is where I have experienced the biggest fails…
My extensive 5.3 data has been great so until that changes me fine..
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Recession is when your friends lose their jobs..
Depression when you lose yours..
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My 2012 is perfectly maintained it will go through 3 quarts in 3k miles fouling pugs 1 and 7 constantly. This problem is due to poor design of the AFM.
Why is it still yours???
Most of my reasoning on oil consumption I’ve noticed is due to poor maintence and abuse My 2011 Chevy doesn’t burn a drop in 3000 miles
I drove a 2012 Sierra 1500 and started having oil pressure issues and had to change my oil pump at 164 000 KM which was crazy for a truck and the only explanation I got from the GM dealership was that I just got a bad part. 6 months later the check engine light came on again and same codes for oil pump and oil pressure sensor and all they did was clear the codes and use thicker oil. After that I was done with GM and its sad because I enjoyed driving my truck.
NATHANIEL PRIOLEAU HELLO Joseph. While it may be true that you were the owner of a Successful GM Vehicle most of the Customers that are complaining are honest about there problems.I have bought a New 2015 Silverado 1500 L/S with the 4.3 Vortex engine and I had to add 1 quart from the very beginning at about 2000 miles into the oil change I find that this is very destriving for a $30.000 Vehicle!
More GM Junk!
I had a 5.3 in a 2007 Silverado and put 96,000 on it with no oil usage issues. This story did take me back to my first truck, a new 1975 Chevy Cheyenne with a 350. It burned a quart of oil every 1000 miles right from the start. Dealer told me in was “normal”. It kept getting worse and at 20,000 miles I was using a quart of 20W 50 Cam 2 racing oil every 700 miles. The truck didn’t smoke, the truck didn’t leak a drop. The dealer said there was nothing they could do. I start calling GM in Detroit and asking for the CEO. Of course I couldn’t talk to him, but I kept calling and finally got to some Vice President. He listened to my story and asked me who my dealer was and said he would look into it. A week later my dealer calls and asks me to come by. The service manager took me and showed me a crate and told me it was my new engine. He told me GM wanted my engine back for testing and they were ready to install my new one under warranty. They did, it never used oil, and had many years of good service from the truck.
GM is owned by China so now you need an oil pump and a vaccine because they spread a virus to kill you and not too sure about the vaccine either it seems to do more harm at the rate they’re pushing it it’s killing people as well wake up country men
It`s morons like you spreading mis-information about the vaccine. If more people would get the vaccine we wouldn`t be in this vulnerable position we are in now! Get vaccinated NOW please. The delta variant is on it`s way.
Alright Butch, if getting the vaccine is so important to the wellbeing of the country then explain to me why our illustrious so called President is distributing UNVACCINATED illegals many with COVID all over the country but citizens are expected to comply with the CDC’s demands.
I own a 2007 Yukon XL did regular oil changes, the lifters failed, had them replaced before damaging the cam, 40,000 miles later same thing only this time damaging the engine to the point of having to replace it. 30,000 miles later lifters failed again, this time had regular lifters, new cam installed and the active fuel management deleted. 275,000 miles now without anymore problems and no noticeable difference in fuel economy. This leads us back to we the people paying the price for government demands. Thanks EPA.
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So true. I’ve noticed that on my 2020 and 2018 chevy sparks. Made in Korea
You sound like a racist idiot.Your comment has nothing to do with this bad GM motor.
Your an idiot too
There also seems to be a developing issue with faulty lifters on the 5.3l L84 engines in the 2021 Yukon’s. Keep an eye on this. I took delivery of an AT4 in January and fortunately have not had any issues.
GM has stated that 5.3 and 6.2L built between Sept 2020 and March 2021 could have a bad batch of lifters from their supplier. It is a known issue and the replacement parts are updated parts. The problem is that parts on usually in short supply and on back order most of the time. It can take a month to get them. Usually people are seeing the issue before they hit 10,000 miles, many are under 5000 miles. So either GM changed suppliers during 2020 or the supplier changed their quality without advising GM, as the 2019’s and first half of 2020 engines don’t have the issue.
New engines have Dynamic skip fire. They have normal lifters right out of old school pushrods. DSF has new trick rocker arms with a “gun trigger” design in them that allows the rocker to push the valves or fold like an accordion. You need new standard lifters. That’s a supplier issue. New L84 engines cannot develop “collapsed lifters” like older AFM engines can. Just lifter tick.
I got a 2000 Silverado 5.3 engine .l bought with 80,000 miles in 2004 it has almost 400,000 miles on it.never any problems and I still drive everyday to work 60 miles roundtrip in Ocala florida.i love the truck.
My 2001 Silvy 5.3 had the valve rattle which was another issue GM refused to acknowledge or fix. Louder than my 2 subsequent diesel trucks. It did go 100k miles rattling the whole way. After a 2008 Duramax I went Ram. Can’t see myself ever going back. The attention to detail on the Ram is very high. GM is very low.
I have a 2014 Silverado Ltz 5.3 55000 miles no issues proper maintenance best engine ever !
I had a 2009 and a still have a 2011 neither one burned any oil between oil changes Maybe people are using poor quailty oil or pouring in these terrible oil additives and probably poor service maintience thown in there also
I know it’s an older design but I have a 03 Silverado 5.3 vortec non flex fuel and Im currently at 276,000 miles on it. Knock on wood everything runs like a dream the only thing I would complain about would be the 4L60E trans those are junk. Other then that solid truck( except the rust those years lol ) and would suggest to anyone to purchase!
Just sold my 03 1500 Silverado with 156k miles and will miss her. I agree with the tranny statement and now have 4l80E 2500 van with 197k that runs just fine.
I’ve wrenched on all brands of vehicles and feel it’s up to the owners to figure out what’s best for them.
Yugo’s are not on my list :-p
Patrick, what went out on the 4L60? 3-4 gears? I had mine go out with an 09+5.3. The transmission itself is good, but has that stupid “shuttle valve” that’s a BB in a can it can punch right through. Got mine rebuilt with the valve delete kit, corvette servo and boosted pressure valve. I like my upgraded 4L60e better than the 6 speed honestly. If they would just have deleted that shuttle valve these would be halve a million mile transmissions.
Well at the milage it has and earlier on in ownership I’ve dropped 2nd and 3rd and your completely right about that check ball/BB I also have a 05 6.0 with a 4L80E that I tow with all the time and have never had a problem with that so I guess at the end of the day it’s just preference
There is clearly an issue with SOME 5.3 Vortec engines. I had a beautiful 2014 Silverado LTZ, LOADED, I bought it in 2016 with 20K miles on it from my neighbor who meticulously takes care of his vehicles. The oil level dropped down 2 quarts one time when my brother was using it and doing a lot of highway miles. Dash lit up like a Christmas tree, thank God. He added the 2 quarts and I had the oil changed. I bought a device from Rangetec that plugs into the diagnostic port under the dash. This device disengages the AFM ( Active fuel management ) and keeps the truck in 8 cyl mode at all times. This may have solved the issue to some degree as one of the issues with oil burn on these can be when the truck is in 4 cyl mode. I didn’t stick around long enough to find out. I sold the truck in 2019 and took a beating on it. It was a great truck with a poorly designed engine. I always loved Chevy pickups for many reasons. I likely will not buy another one. U would think that they would run these engines in 4cyl mode for a long period of time before they produce them to see what would happen or not happen. This ESPECIALLY in light of the decades ago Cadillac V 4-6-8 debacle. !! Those Caddys had a 368ci engine that ran great when the 4-6-8 feature was disconnected. IT’S RIDICULOUS THAT THEY WOULD DO THIS AGAIN. I bought a Ford Bronco Sport.
Everything anyone needs to know about the credibility of your post is shown in your last sentence. These newer motors most have no issues and AFM is not a significant role in those few that do have issues.
I have tried various oil weights and brands on my Silverado and discovered that each dissipated at different rates. I just stuck with what works the best and kept a quart behind the seat just in case.
I was fully loaded with 1000+ lbs from Colorado to Florida and didn’t need to add a drop.
I drive like the old man that I am but on some occasions I like to run it like I stole it.
Ive owned several gm cars and never had an.oil consumption issue. I drove an olds with the 5.0 285,000 miles and the key is maintenance religiously.
It holds true for any manufacturer today .
Most 5.3 and 4.8 after 2006 are going to have that problem
Some 5.3 and 4.8 after 2006 are going to have that problem.
Fixed that for you…
Just like any other kind of vehicle or any kind of engine,they all will burn oil at higher temperatures which is pretty common the higher the RPM an engine goes.My late father always had GM trucks and so do I.He sometimes had problems but he fixed it himself even though he wasn’t a mechanic.Maintenance is one thing many people just don’t do.My paternal uncle who’s in his mid 70’s has been a mechanic for most of all his life and retiring soon.Out of his experiences repairing or rebuilding parts of or sometimes rebuilding a whole vehicle,he says it’s just how well you take good care of your vehicle is all it takes to get the most out of your vehicle.He too has always had GM vehicles.He says they’re easier to work on,repair,their parts aren’t too expensive and they’re always usually out of his shop in no time,quicker than most other kinds of vehicles because they’re parts are less expensive and are pretty much always available at most any parts stores.I understand that we all are different in many ways.Some of us many vehicle owners today are not experience in working on our own vehicles and some of us do.So some of us just don’t really know what goes on under the hood.I’m a multi trades,residential,commercial and industrial and not a mechanic but I do work on my own vehicles.If you just take time out for your vehicle,after awhile you begin to really figure out your vehicle.You’ll know just when your vehicle will need attention on a certain part.Best of all,anything you need know about anything,like about your vehicle,it’s all on Youtube.Thanks to Youtube for providing pretty much most of everything we,do it yourselfers,all need to know.👍👌
The 5.3 uses a high psi oil pump, when it reaches the pcv valve through the pushrod from the hydraulic lifter oil is introduced through the pcv. The pcv is under a vaccume and there is no deflector to prevent oil from being picked up and sent to the intake. GM did relocate the pcv, but I do not know if this was addressed and if it worked.
I have had 2 5.3 Vortec never ever used oil my 2005 Sierra is still the same performance as new. I use Dexos 1 5w30 Quaker State. When their are Quality complaints the OEM must step up to determine if it from a design change. Or non conforming parts from the Suppiers, that can be a material or process such as heat treating or a dimensional or surface finish non conformance. Also an assembly discrepancies from not following the written procedures. Their are many root cause and corrective methods that should be used such as the 5 Why RCCA using the ISHIOWA Fish bone diagram or the 8D RCCA. GM should take ownership. For me I will always be a GM car buyer. I have given you an over view from Quality Engineer. These companies can no longer use the good old boy system they use the Quality Managing Systems TS16949, ISO9001-2015 that requires them to use PPAP and First Article Inspections. Part of the pre production approval process is testing of the PPAP samples before the Supplier is allowed to go into production.
Soo many manufacturers have that stupid law / corporations of oil burning at 1000 miles. Im faithful at on my vehicles and had many of my cars burned alloy of oil. Its basically the design of the block sand oil rings . problem on. Most engines……
Small block GM v8’s demand the correct viscosity of oil.due to ring tolerances. Even the brand of oil is critical.
If it’s burning oil that’s the problem… Maybe the EPA should Sue them for pollution.
Complex machines (like internal combustion engines with power/efficiencies we are seeing today) clearly must be maintained properly.
At same time, manufacturers that design with a margin of error that reflects “real life” and correct problems that clearly fall on their side of ledger, will always earn loyalty.
Motors are not the main Issue with this platform/ era of truck.
I’ve driven gm trucks my whole life and never had a major issue like I have now with my transmission in a 2016 Silverado ( it’s the trashiest feeling automatic I’ve ever driven )and all the dealership wants to say is “it’s normal” …
I told the dealer I’m never buying another garbage gm truck again and will tell everyone I know not to buy one. His reply was ” why don’t you trade it in on a new one, they have no issues like this”( except first cycle of driving of the day)I just about jumped down his throat..
I said “issue” you said it’s normal!
I knew I should have bought a Toyota
Can’t believe people buy GM junk. They are giving you the middle finger by trying to throw the law suit out
Hopefully the lawsuit goes through. I bought a Chevy Silverado 2009 brand new it only had 63 miles. 5 years later the truck was consuming a lot of oil, I took it to the dealership and they told me that it was Normal. A couple of months later one of the lifters gave out. And of course it was right after the warranty had expired. So I bought another engine and guess what same issue, too much oil consumption and a lifter gave out. The 5.3L engine was a poorly designed and it was meant to fail.
FYI it only applies for 5.3L engine. 2009 Chevy Silverado 1500
Well in my opinion we’re living by the Law jungle not what all the land, it’s not about pride and what’s right and what’s wrong anymore it’s about that old mighty Dollar how they can get over on someone.
The vaccine is a joke the Delta variant is a joke the whole damn thing is a joke it’s going to be a new variant and a new vaccine every year as long as they continue to scare the hell out of you and why we’re at it those f****** masks are a joke too
I’m on my 8th avalanche… 02, 03, 05, 07, 08, 13, 08, and now a 13 with 60k miles on it. Never noticed an oil problem until my 1st 08. When checking oil on my previous ones i may have been a quart low when checking them,, but on the 1st 08 I had repeated issues with the oil just barely touching the dipstick and having to add 2 to 3 quarts. This was just at 100k miles. Took it in to the dealership and they installed a shield of some type in the oil Pan to help stop oil usage in accordance with a TSB. Drove it for 3 or 4 months with no change so the dealership took it back and replaced the lifters and pistons. I traded it about 6 months later as the oil pressure gauge continued
to indicate borderline low pressure even after replacing the oil pump again and then the gauge. Traded it for my 1st 13. I drove all of my avalanches way North of 150000 miles except for 2 with no engine problems to speak of. Sometimes you find a bad apple in the bottom of the barrel. The cracked broken dash covers in the avalanche/suburban/ tahoe/Silverado on the other hand, is a more glaring issue that they won’t address. Just bought my present 2013 “garage kept” avalanche with 60k and the dash was cracked on it in the same spot they all do. Poor quality control, But they would go broke trying to fix them all because of how many vehicles involved.
I’m driving a 2010 gmc. I went to the dealership closest to where my truck went into “conservative mode” and wouldn’t go more than 5 miles an hr. Service manager told me my truck was too old. They couldn’t work on it. 185000 What am I supposed to do when I need service? Go to Ford I guess. No response from the dealership in Catskill NY.
To Roberts comment about maintenance how does that help the conversation.
I have a 2015 GMC Sierra SLT crew cab that I bought brand new it had every service recommended and required done at the dealership he currently has a hundred and thirty-five thousand miles on it and it’s on a second engine and third transmission at 24000 miles the AC went out free crack in the condenser line $900 repair. The first engine they covered under partially covered under warranty after they had it for 8 months at the dealership sitting then I was required to come out of pocket $5,000 of the $13,000 plus total. The first transmission went out at 46,000 miles that one was covered under warranty they had it for 3 months that time. And the second one I had to pay $4,600 for and it was no longer covered under warranty because they rebuilt it instead of replacing it even though the TSB told him they were supposed to replace it. So we thought it only had fifteen thousand mile warranty through the dealership. Since they replaced it last time instead of rebuilding it now it has a 3-year 100000 mile warranty. Other than that the truck still looks brand new inside and out. It has the Rocky Mountain Truck package on it in a ceramic clear coat. But I hate this truck let me down and Stranded so many times and cost me so much money
I have my first GM, a 2011 sierra 1500 I am from the old school and change oil every 4K, EVEN with synthetic oil, a fool would go 8K between oil changes, oil lubricates and cools hence fourth the oil cooler, I had my lines replaced at 100K no problems except the original lug nuts suck.
I have a 2011 Chevy Silverado !!and it does !! Use oil or burn it ..it a good truck drive really good but that the only issue that it has ..
Can you imaging writing a check for your vehicle with disappearing ink and when they try to sue you, you can claim the ink had a “design flaw” and getting away with it. No difference. Lower case gm is screwing people without conscience. About time an honest judge heard the complaints.
My wife and I both have 5.3L Silverado’s. Mine is 5 years younger and doesn’t bun a drop. Wife’s goes through a quart every 3000 miles.
I get a kick out of all the comments about Maintenance.
I’m working at a parts store part time after retirement.
I change my own oil, most oil changes I’ll let it drain over night.
Change filter oil at 3,000 miles. With the best Synthetic oil, my 2013 truck is burning oil like mad. Asked a buddy who wrenched all his life. He said I cant tell you how may rings I replaced on that style truck.
Maintenance problems, you guys probably couldn’t tell the difference in a timing belt and spark plug.
I’ve been a GM owner for years and have worked there.
GM should have been left to go Bankrupt and die. Still like there trucks and own two classic “1969” GM cars.
But there leadership suck.
Ive owned several gm cars and never had an.oil consumption issue. I drove an olds with the 5.0 285,000 miles and the key is maintenance religiously.
It holds true for any manufacturer today .
I have 200k on my 5.3 and had oil and spark plug problems for a long time till I started changing my own oil and not using fram filters and garbage oil. Truck purrs now and the oil pressure stays at 40 not 25
What is dumb about this is that the 2011 had a redesign in the oil recovery that fixed the issues with afm – the 07-10 were the worst. If I were to buy a gmt 900 vehicle, it MUST be a 2011+ for the 5.3…
Were these the same motors that suffered from “piston slap” or was that another motor?
Quit e- mailing me please
I bought my 2008 Tahoe new. I don’t have a single complaint about the 5.3l motor. Do your oil changes every 3,000 miles with out skipping a beat and people would have the same result I have. A dependable motor now in 2021, has 9,882 hours of run time and 277,205 miles on it. Best motor I have ever owned. 5w30 full synthetic oil with a K&N oil filter is all that has ever gone into my motor. Sure other things have gone bad and needed replacement on my Tahoe, but the motor and everything inside of it is solid.
I have 2001 1500 with 4.8 ls motor. It has used 1qt oil per 1000 since new. Hasn’t increased or decreased. 236k on it now, it barely makes it to a 3000 mile oil change w/o having to add oil.
I just bought a catch can to run the blow by thru before it goes to the intake. That is the issue.
189000 miles on my 2011 Chevy 1500. All I do is drive it. I have added maybe oil twice between oil changes, that average 6000-7000 miles. Reluctant to upgrade, as I had such good success with this pickup. No complaints
I bet your Chinese made plastic dash is cracked all to hell though.
GM couldn’t build a quality wheelbarrow. I have grown up in an autowrecker and am a licensed mechanic who has worked at a dealership and no it definitely wasn’t a GM dealership. If you are lucky they only nickel and dime you to death with small problems like door handles, window regulators, switches… As far as I know GM has sold vehicles for less then cost just to make money on replacement parts for the poorly engineered vehicles. Just my opinion.
Disturbingly similar to the 3.1l V6 defective head gasket issue that GM tried to hush up and backpedal on in the mid 2000’s. Avoided having to issue a recall but any mechanic you talked to knew about the issue. I hope they wind up paying out this time.
I have a 2000 chev 5.3 with 446,000 km
No oil burn great mpg great engine
Regular service always
So true. I’ve noticed that on my 2020 and 2018 chevy sparks. Made in Korea, if we pay attention to the small print we would see that almost everything is from other countries. Even if it says made in America….mor like completed or assembled in America by Americans.
I am currently driving a 99 GMC Sierra 1500 with the 5.3L V8. This was the first year for that motor in the new body style, for those who don’t know. I have over 422,000 miles on the ORIGINAL motor and it doesn’t burn or leak enough oil to make the “check engine oil level” display to light up. I’ve ran seafoam through the motor since around 150,000 miles when it started burning oil. I haven’t had any issues since.
My Sons 2018 Silverado with a 5.3 Vortec using 0 W 20 Dexous 1 full synthetic does not use oil at all it has about 10,000 mileage likes it.
JUNK JUNK JUNK!!! My last new GM vehicle was in 2009 a silverado v8 v4 crap that’s the reason why the use oil after awhile. The dead cylinders carbon up, they get cool, etc…. After 75,000 miles I could feel a light vibration in the seat. It was caused by the engine being off balance ( like GM is ) sadly these older GM designers/Engineers are retiring and young people are replacing them. The 350 should have never went away, you should be able to buy a manual transmission in any truck. Bring back the third member axle up front, on the 1/2 ton trucks inform future ( suckers ) I meant customers
That the hood, doors, and tailgate are made of aluminum. Then GET RID OF THAT DAMN TV SCREEN IN THE DASH!! Talk about texting and driving being distracting, these screens are much BV worse!!!! Make these vehicles more user friendly for older people. My F250 gas bought new has been great! But until Ford comes Back with a steel body I guess a new GMC maybe in my future ????? While I’m on it, YOUNG PEOPLE BE RESPONSIBLE AND RENEW YOUR DAMN LICENSE PLATES!!! And bring back the 90’s and prior years!
People here complaining about the oil consumption and they have 100,000+ miles on their trucks. Idiots. These trucks will go 500,000 miles with regular maintenance and care. They obviously never owned a vehicle before the year 2000 so they can’t appreciate how good they have it. They’re all just looking for a payout. Probably don’t work a regular job either.
My 2010 Suburban just turned over 270,000 miles last week.
It doesn’t use oil.
It starts every day.
It gets 22+ MPG on the highway.
Thank God I haven’t had a problem with the stupid DOD.
I had an ’07 Chevy Silverado 2500HD with the 6.0 Vortec and manual transmission. It was a really nice truck, good looking, luxurious, nothing to write home about on the power end but the engine was smooth and was happy to run. Real shame about the rest of the truck though, 3 front bearing assemblies for the front axle, all 4 brake rotors would need replacement every two years because of rust, steel brake lines rusted out after 5 years, two dashboard assemblies failed, the clutch slave cylinder failed and many other irritating and expensive issues. I think I paid $31,000 for the truck when I bought it and another $15,000 to keep it on the road over a 7 year period.
I wish I could agree that’s it’s the way you drive and maintain it but I think GM has some serious problems. Good luck to all of you but I’m going back to something older. I’d rather spend $20,000 on something from the ’80s that’s been fully gone through and a properly rebuilt american V-8.
My 07 Serria C1500 rolled over 400,000 a couple of months ago. 1 oil sending unit, 1 cam position sensor, 1 oil pickup tube o ring, 1 evap solenoid, 1 O2 sensor, 1 radiator, 5 batteries, 2 alternators, 2 water pumps and a dozen sets of brake pads and it just now uses a qt of oil between 5k oil changes. The miles are mostly highway but it has towed everything from the lawnmower and 5×10 trailer to a 16′ trailer with a m4900 kabota with a loader. I can’t complain one bit even if it doesn’t start in the morning and I’m going to keep regardless. And for the Ford fans I bought 4 new Ford trucks and loved every one of them my last 2 were the 88 and 95 with a 4.9 i 6 and when Ford dropped the 4.9 I bought GMC in 2000 and 07 and when I need another truck it’ll be a GM with a 5.3
Uses oil and fouls plugs 120,000 miles quit making excuses for them. Oil retun windows on the pistons are to small and wont allow it to return to the pan. Come on GM you know its wrong.
Need to delete the afm, they know it’s a problem. We all start getting worried around 150-180, 000 miles cause of the failures. Another flaw in the design. If it’s flawed stop building them till you fix the flaw. They need to own up to this stuff cause if customers may start going to other brands. I say that and I’m a life long bowtie bubba.
Chaparral & dpach:
Bought a new Yukon XL AT4 in March 2021…8,250 miles lifters on passenger side And #6 rod went out….service manager said he has 4 more waiting to get fixed, 5.3L, month out already on some of them….GM stated they are extending my power train warranty and taking care of miscellaneous expenses, but WTF….. Waiting to hear if this is going on the CarFax, mfer’s
For all the haters go buy you a Ford. Because their stuff is so much more premium than GM. I’ll stink with a GM motor that eats oil. Simply because that’s what Dale would of done. Raise Hell Praise Dale.
I own a 2018 Chevy truck and GM hides behind layers
It’s hard to believe they have any customers left they have ripped off so many with the 5.3 and the 2.4
Get rid of Mary
I have a 07 avalanch and I had to put a new motor and transmission chevy don’t stand behind there product I need to be reimbursed…
Gm problem is the afm system on 2007 and newer vehicles !
Just bought a 09 Suburban w/ 130k with the 5.3L few months ago and just changed the oil. I went with synthetic 5w30 since thats what the owners manual suggests. Havent noticed any oil consumption but will keep eye on it now. My wife and I were in the market for a bigger vehicle since we have 4 kids and were looking at an 09-11 Acadia or Enclave but seeing all the timing chain issues scared be away from those engines. We are happy that we spent a little more with the suburban especially since now we have a 5th child on the way. I have a 2015 Hyundai Sonata that had the engine go due to a defect at around 110k (I have a long commute to work). I thought for sure that I was screwed and when I got a call from Hyundai the next day they told me I needed a new engine and that they were gonna replace it for me, no questions asked. I was so relieved. I found out that there were more people with my problem and that they extended the warranty to 120k, thankfully I wasnt over that and it did take a few weeks but they gave me a loaner and Im very grateful. Wish more car companies would stand by their cars. No reason engines shouldnt last over 200k these days with proper maintenance.
Your rite..my 5.3 has 195k..runs strong..looking for 100k more at least..
My second Tahoe 2002, 1st on hit 315k miles and is still running strong, my son has it. 2nd is a 2013 with 130k have NEVER had to add oil, only when changing it. Same thing goes for my 2005 Pontiac Grand Prix which I got 352k miles. All self maintained and never an oil issue.
I’ve had nothing but GM for the last 30 years none of the vehicles burned oil until I bought 07 Tahoe 5.3 l it’s used oil from the beginning about 2 quarts between oil changes at 210,000 miles engine has not been touched I would never think that burn oil would be an engine defect but is the best vehicle I owned.
I have a 2010 Silverado at 130,000 miles the lifter collapsed and too out the cam replaced the cam and all the lifters 3000 miles later the lifter collapsed on cyclinder 1 replaced that and plugged in Ranger AFM disabler and not had a problem since. I have owned Chevy all my life and am discussed wit GM not take responsibility for their products I most likely not buy another GM truck
2nd 5.3…has 195,500+..no oil consumption to speak of..New plugs wires purrs like a kitten..last 5.3..125k…same…perfect engine for my needs…build millions of drive trains turds will fall..had a 4.8 and 4.3 vortec as well..great power for bucks..boats..trailers towed..no problems..Bowties forever in my trucks…Mopar is my (Challenger Scat Pack) muscle..F the Camaro today..had one..not interested..
Bottom line Ford gave me huge turd after another with hard to fix issues…Ram trucks..expensive…overated.owned 3 diesels..Last one…a Dually Diesel cost 60k…junk..warranty help?? Hahaha…
GM..GMC…all I need to know..
I know the feeling. My 2012 used to burn a quart every few hundred miles. It ran out of oil a few hundred miles after an oil change. That is one of the reasons I sold it.
It appears the 2018-2021 5.3 engines have issues with their lifters that I am having issues with now 🙁
My 2000 has 360000 and run motor is running very well. Frequent oil changes 20w50 Castrol highmileage oil and aquart of Lucas oil stabilizer
I know larger models that gm have
Ghost handling , steering can be like a boat on a suburban or caddie but if I were gm I’d concentrate on a better ignition and power steering not just hang around pier pressure to boast a larger size class of truck, shame on both sides
I bought a 2009 Silverado with 56k miles on it. It burns 2 quarts in 2500 miles. I had to put a high pressure oil pump in it because it would hit the check engine light for oil pressure if you don’t change the oil every 3k miles. Biggest waste of money. I had the oil pressure sensor, pump o-ring changed and oil pump replaced. Stealership would take it and call the next day after changing the oil and say it was fixed.
My 5.3 has 265,000 miles. Synthetic oil changed every 4 to 5 k miles. Never has used oil. It still runs great.
Im reading fuel management system where all started. Late 07. Last fix was to big volume oil in bypass mode and misting oil that varnish on cylinders walls to point rings will not seal .. This is the short of the story.
I feel 5.3 fuel management system delete and could cut oil volumes back to early 07. You have one best engines made. So yes to EPA. And GM engineers to make our lives hell. Thats made engines burn oil eat parts are not saveing our earth. I have early 07 5.3 248,000 miles. No oil burned can measure. 05 4.8 dropped in my 84 jeep. 20,000miles . No measurable oil use. Great engins bad engineering. Hope keep fire under there butts.
I circumvented the Active fuel management system on my 2011 using a range technology unit that keeps all 8 cylinders online and stops the idiotic AFM from dropping 4 cylinders under no load the unit plugs into the diagnostic OBD plug receptacle
After 130,000 miles my 2008 GMC Sierra 5.3 dropped a valve. After $6,600 & a updated 5.3 I gave it to my nephew. My wife’s 2008 Tahoe 5.3 was fine but the tranny dropped a gear. We gave that to our son. I then bought a 16 Ford F150 for myself, and a 2019 Ram for my wife. I used to be a solid GM man. Not anymore.
The 5.7 is a much better engine
I do feel for you guys/gals regarding your 5.3 L but I have to say I’ve got close to 350K miles and damn thing keeps running strong and it looks awesome. I couldn’t be more happier with this truck! The only problem I have is the bad guys trying to steal it!
Is anyone on here from Oregon part of a GM lawsuit? I bought a 2014 GMC Yukon with about 80k miles back in January 2021. I didn’t know anything about the oil consumption problem…..but now I do after burning 3 quarts before my first oil change! I purchased an extended warranty from GWAC. I took it to the dealer a couple weeks ago as I couldn’t get the O2 sensor codes to clear after replacing all O2 sensors. The compression test revealed bad rings/compression in all cylinders. Now GWAC warranty company is telling the dealer that this is what they deem as Normal Wear & Tear, and they will not cover ring replacement. I am so frustrated with this situation now that I know it’s a wide spread issue. I have been in contact with GM Customer Care as well, but I am not expecting much help with this. I will definitely do a lot more research in the future before buying a used vehicle.
To be honest I don’t think any of us will get a thing other than a ‘loyalty discount’ coupon from GM. I think of the thousands of dollars in towing and repairs I’ve spent on my Silverado while my friends driving Fords and Dodges that haven’t had brake lines, front and rear rotors twice, ABS sensors, clutch slave cylinder, clutch master cylinder, rear axle bearing seals, throttle bodies, both upper control arms, idler arm, new cylinder heads, universal joints and a front differential because the pinion bearings decided to grenade. This was a truck that was garage kept and dealer maintained which means I actually exceeded GM’s recommended maintenances schedule. This was all within 8 years and 90,000 miles of service. I had to junk it because it wouldn’t pass inspection because its ‘state of the art’ hydroformed frame rusted out! I paid $38,000 for the truck in 2007 and paid for over $14,000 in repairs on top of the regular maintenance. WORST. TRUCK. EVER! There was always talk of the government making GM make their vehicle owners whole but nothing happened. I remember the dealer telling me my truck could never pass inspection again because of the frame rust and suggesting I go to the sales department because they would give me a really good deal. They were great guys and gals and it wasn’t their fault. They got the GM representative to review my cases but as you’ll read in your warranty manual these instances will be arbitrated by an independent adjustor and surprise, all of this was considered ‘normal’ wear and tear and maintenance. All I can say is good luck and I hope GM can be bankrupted and shut down.
What do you expect from a company that ONLY PAYS THERE CEO MARY 40 million a year…
There is no money left to build a quality product
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Rob you touched on something I was thinking and wanted to mention but avoided it. When Barra was in engineering I believe she was part of the team that decided that it was more economical to save a few cents rather that the danger it put drivers of GM in. I really don’t know what to say here but I think GM’s attitude is ‘the costumer? F$&# them!’ I have a 1970 Chevrolet Pickup that I love, GM just seems to not have a plan, they shouldn’t be in business.
Hi Charlie
I didn’t know Barra was in engineering
I do know she works for the investors not GM customers.
Unfortunately she is to stupid to realize that by not supporting her customers there will be no GM to invest in.
Quality is at an all time low. Warranty claims at an all time high and warranty denials are common place.
I read that GM trucks interiors were designed by a women to increase sales to women. I wonder if she had something to do with this fiasco too.
There has been so many complaints about GMs old lackluster interiors they finally updated them.. Now it looks like a Ram truck inside, no sign GM designed them at all.From one extreme to another.
I own a 2018 Chevy Colorado Diesel. Love this truck. Better than 30mpg is amazing. My first GM in 30 years. I stopped buying GM as quality issues were a real problem. I do see nothing has really changed at GM. Quality is NOT in there game plan even today.
The judge should fine GM 500,000,000.00
For pollution that these engines are causing. Burning that much oil will destroy the Cats. And leave the vehicle with no pollution control.
It’s time MFGs pay the price for ripping off there customers…..
2008 Silverado 4×4 LTZ engine J LY5. First issue was the dash started cracking, folding mirrors stopped working, first driver side then passenger side, the engine would idle rough ever so often found to much oil passing through the intake due to a poor valve cover design, using oil at 45,000. It had increased to 3 quarts between 3000 mile oil changes. At 140,000 the engine had to be removed, rebuilt loosing so much power from burning oil. Come to find out sticking lifters and cam lobe damage. Due to the AFM/DOD engine management system, deleted it completely using new internal components, different cam, bored out .020 thousands, replace crank, piston rods, pistons, bent push rods. Lifters, weak valve springs, A total mess. The fuel pump went out, and the bed above the fenders were so thin they have rusted out, replaced with professional fiberglass panels both sides from E Glass industries excellent panels at a much cheaper price than new metal panels. I pride myself on maintenance being a marine mechanic. I see all kinds of issues, however this 2008 Silverado LTZ 5.3 should have not been an issue. Rear axle started leaking oil. turned out after seal replacement by a professional axle repair shop, lasted about 3 months had to replace everything excluding ring and pinion gear, axles and housing, metal was everywhere inside the housing. Went with tried and true Detroit locker components. GM should be held responsible for these failures. Transmission was not doing so good found weak internal parts and is being rebuilt by a professional company familiar with 4l60e issues on 4×4 Silverado’s. I’m still in this rebuild process due to the fake president causing delays everywhere on finished goods and paying the people to not work, giving it everything he’s got to collapse the United States of America. started doing this project Sept/2/2021. about a month longer to have complete. I’ve been buying new pickups for over 40 years, Dodge cummings were good excluding interior, Ford has issues, Toyota lasted the longest with no issues. Thought I would try a GM product. I thought it was a nice pickup I didn’t want to buy another new pickup knowing the issues every manufacture has these days. So I’m building a better pick my way. My Granddad always told me GM builds vehicles to break just outside the warranty, he was right, Ford use to be the better vehicles, he drove the wheels of his.
I have a 2013 Chevy Silverado and I’m having the same problem with my 5.3 engine I got it from the dealership a year and 2 months ago and it lasted 40K now my engine’s no good and they won’t warrant my truck engine
NATHANIEL PRIOLEAU I brought a 2015 Chevy Silverado in September of 2015 and are having a noise coming from my engine and all so experiencing oil consumption.My mileage on this truck is at about 115000.