The Hummer EV Edition 1 Will Weigh More Than 9,000 Pounds93
The all-new GMC Hummer EV is big, out-sizing every other Hummer model in every dimension, as GM Authority covered previously. With that in mind, it should come as no surprise that the new battery-driven Hummer is also quite heavy. However, what may be surprising is just how heavy the new Hummer EV really is.
As it turns out, the all-new 2022 GMC Hummer EV Edition 1 Pickup boasts a staggering curb weight of 9,046 pounds (4,103 kilograms). For all intents and purposes, that’s kinda nuts – by comparison, a GMC Sierra 3500HD 4WD Long Bed Crew Cab with dual rear wheels and 6.6L V8 L5P turbodiesel Duramax powerplant under the hood has a curb weight of 8,355 pounds (3,790 kg), making it 691 pounds lighter than the new Hummer EV Edition 1 Pickup.
A few other noteworthy specs include the Hummer EV’s GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), which is rated at 10,400 pounds (4,717 kg).
Despite the heft, the Hummer EV is also surprisingly maneuverable thanks to features like four-wheel steering and CrabWalk mode.
In addition to the sheer size of the thing, the Hummer EV’s ground-pounding curb weight can also be attributed to its battery-driven powertrain. Providing motivation in the Hummer EV Edition 1 is a three-motor setup producing more than 1,000 horsepower, enough to catapult the 9,000-pound off-roader to 60 mph in three seconds, with range-per-charge rated at 350 miles.
Further down the line, the Hummer EV3X is equipped with a three-motor setup good for 830 horsepower, 0-to-60 mph run in 3.5 seconds, and 300 miles of range, the Hummer EV2X has a two-motor setup good for 625 horsepower and 300 miles of range, and the Hummer EV2 has a two-motor setup good for 625 horsepower and 250 miles of range.
Underpinning the Hummer EV is GM’S dedicated BT1 architecture, while the automaker’s Ultium batteries and Ultium Drive motor tech make the go.
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It is way too heavy, GM went wrong somewhere!
Other than battery chemistry and recharge rates, weight is another area where an improvement is greatly needed.
Its clear from the Lyriq weight and now the Hummer EV, GM has work to do, both are not competitive in their class for 2022.
They are competitive compared to other EVs in their class. Weight was always going to be heavier compared to ICE cousins.
A Model X is lighter than a Lyriq by a couple hundred pounds, but GM can still do better and they are.
They are not competitive, look at the curb weight on the Rivian (5800 lbs), and the Tesla S and X… Lyriq in usable interior and cargo space is only slightly bigger then Model Y, but 1300 lbs heavier (35%), with no AWD, No Frunk, etc… No wonder GM needs a huge battery for rather limited range.
My Faith in GM’s EV programs is shaken…. They are not in the same league as Tesla, Hyundai and others.
Rivian is a much smaller truck than the Hummer and the Model S is a sedan….
Model X is much bigger inside and cargo then Lyriq, and less mass
Model X is lighter, but do you have the cargo volume numbers to support it having “much bigger inside and cargo…”?
Model X is substantial bigger then Lyriq… Tesla has the cargo numbers on their website 88 cubic feet. Model X also has a frunk, and AWD, and nearly 400 miles of range. Lyriq is not competitive from day 1, except against the E-Tron is an ICE platform converted to EV (also designed 5 years ago)
Tesla doesn’t compete with Lyric, Y is a direct competitor for cheap Chinese vans with plastic garbage’s interiors.
Its interesting that you say that… Model Y is by far Tesla’s best seller now in the US, and they sell every one that can build for over $50K. I would tell you, some things bout the Tesla Y are better then anything GM builds, lets start with the seats… Tesla seats are extremely comfortable and Tesla builds them in house, not like GM buying them from Magna.
More like Lyriq does not compete with Tesla, first because its not on the market yet, but even when it arrives it is short on range, and efficiency… We will have to wait and see on charging, but GM has no charging network, so there is that too… Yes, Lyriq has a beautiful interior, and nice looks on the outside, but you cannot go anywhere in it without outside charging so have fun admiring it in your garage while Tesla’s go across the country… .
Dear Donavan, My faith in GM producing competitive EVs has also diminished with the release of the new 2022 Bolt EV and Bolt EUV which have the same range (or less for the EUV) and the same slow max charging rate (55kW) as the 2017-2021 Bolt EVs.
However, your facts are incorrect regarding the Model X and Lyriq. You say that the Model X is substantially bigger than the Lyriq, which is not true. Here are the interior specs for both:
Passeger Volume = 105 cu. ft.
Cargo Volume Behind Rear Seats (trunk) = 28 cu. ft.
Wheel Base = 121.8 in.
Passeger Volume = 94 cu. ft.
Luggage Volume = 26 cu. ft.
WheelBase = 116.7 in.
The Model X has a 100kW battery, so it does have a longer range than the Lyriq but that range is not almost 400 miles, it is actually 360 miles according to Tesla’s webite. The Lyriq will have a 100kW battery that can go at least 300+ miles probably more based on GM’s history of rating the Bolt and it is not yet EPA rated. Also, the Model X long range base model costs $89,990 which is substantially more than the Lyriq base model at $59,990, a whopping $30,000 more than the Lyriq and that is without the Tesla self-driving option.
Now regarding the Hummer EV Edition 1, it has more torque than the mentioned Sierra:
Sierra Torque = up to 910 LB-FT
Hummer EV Edition 1 = up to 11,500 LB-FT (that is not a typo, yes 11,500)
The Hummer’s hauling weight ability has not been released yet. But if the torque is any indication, it should be substantially more than the Sierra’s 36,000 lbs. It weighs a little more than the biggest Sierra, because it will be able to haul a lot more weight.
That 11,500 LB-FT is wheel torque. The Torque from the Motors in the Hummer works out to 1,045 LB-FT before reduction gearing.
Thank you Nebula for clarifying the Hummer EV Edition 1 torque spec. So the actual motor torque does work out to 1,045 LB-FT which is still 135 FT-LB better than the Sierra.
The Rivian is slightly smaller, but by interior space, not so much so. The Hummer interior is not huge, it is substantially smaller then a typical T1 crew cab pickup.
On another note: https:// www. bloomberg .com /news/newsletters/2021-05-14/hyperdrive-daily-is-your-ev-really-green
This article about how clean EVs are is very interesting.
Even in the dirtiest grids EVs are still cleaner than ICEs.
The primary source for that article is Argonne and GREET, but upon evaluation of the .gov site it seems more like a .edu source. It also requires you to divulge personal information to access the quoted statistics. Doesn’t seem like a very transparent source for being so scholarly.
Considering its founder is cotton soft with questionable beliefs on the second amendment. I for one do not care what his network and ilk have to say.
EV’s will be greener at a much later cycle in their lifespan. Lets look at EVs before they are born. It is very dirty business mining for materials for these batteries. Oh and guess what they need a lot of energy to get to them. I feel sorry for ecosystems downstream from lithium mines. Then they must be shipped on a dirty container ship as people forget about those.
lowercase gm is crying about the semiconductor shortage now. It is only going to get worse when the demand for even more precious metals speeds up. As people will still want their idevices every few months.
Also batteries are not recycled or repurposed. The last time I checked throwing those in a landfill is not good either. Its going to be a messier world when more EV’s are on the road and they start crashing and the EVS go bad. Like I said there is not good programs overall for taking care of the batteries we have today for all consumer electronics.
Go look up EV battery recycling. Systems for closed loop recycling and reuse of the batteries exist they are now just starting to take off as the number of EVs are increasing. They are not going to be dumped into landfills.
GM has already refurbished the reused Volt batteries that they get back and other Volt batteries are being reused in other energy projects second hand.
The materials are far to valuable to be lost.
Last time I chirped this for its low mileage I got downvoted heavily. This is just icing on the cake . I’m a big fan of hummer… but the numbers gotta make sense gm
The harsh fact is batteries add mass and that is why I questioned the added weight to our own crumbling roads.
As density increased the weight will come down but they will remain somewhat heavy.
There is a move to transmissions now in development. These can permit better efficiency and that means smaller and cheaper batteries and motors can be used. I have seen several 2 speeds that may be seen at some point in future models.
Tire companies also have expressed the challenge of building tires for these vehicles. They will need to deal with added weight. They need to be quieter, they will need efficient in rolling resistance but still have good all season grip.
You are so full of —- Transmissions in an EV are only helpful at high speed, ala Taycan, and Audi E-Tron GT. EPA range test speeds are low enough they have limited effect to have a 2 speed. It’s clear GM is just behind on vehicle light weighting, and it seems their batteries are not competitive. Time to look at Rivian, since I will not buy a Cybertruck.
But if you think its just battery density and not poor engineering by GM, why is Rivian so much lighter, but same ground clearance and 4 motors so they have 4 wheel individual control?
Rivian more payload and towing, and same 0-60 time, and 40% cheaper…
You forgot that Rivian doesn’t have a lot of Hummer options. Also we don’t know what is the sound insulation, battery protection, passive safety of these vehicles. Hummer has removable roof panels and therefore a reinforced structure.
Your childish conclusions about performance based on the paper numbers of these vehicles are ridiculous. And by the way, Lyric weighs less than the E-tron and Tesla, if you take into account all the features.
Yes, the Hummer has removable roof panels enabled by the unibody structure, however the Rivian has more ground clearance in normal mode, and the Rivian will also have a removable roof coming next year.
Lyriq weighs more then the E-Tron and E-Tron is AWD… Lyriq is RWD. E-Tron is also one of the quietest cars on the road, rock solid in structure (most testers call it a bank vault), and not bad on a race track. I am not sure what feature Lyriq has that E-Tron doesn’t, but my E-Tron has a frunk, heated, cooled, and massaging seats. E-tron is also a converted ICE platform, not a dedicated EV, and designed 5 years ago, Lyriq still has not hit the market so its hard to compare.
Did you know that the Hummer has very massive off-road underbody protection? Not much at Rivian.
Yes, Lyric is RWD, but I haven’t seen how much the 4WD version weighs. And you too.
“Lyriq weighs more then the E-Tron and E-Tron…” Actually it doesn’t. AWD is coming later to the Lyriq
Lyriq weighs 5611 lbs in Base RWD trim, Audi E-Tron weights 5699 in AWD trim, when the AWD lyriq comes it will be substantially heavier (400-500lbs), likely have worse handling and noisier, and GM seats are crap… E-tron is on the market, I have one, we know its capabilities, Lyriq is still vaporware, good looking, but poor use of space, and less cargo capability than E-Tron… Worse news for GM, Is E-Tron is an ICE platform converted to EV, Lyriq is an all new platform, but poorly designed.
But the Lyriq comes with a 100kW battery which is why it weighs more, but that extra battery capacity gives it a 300+ mile range which makes it much better for long vacation travel. The E-tron only has a range of 222 miles. Also, the base E-tron cost $6,000 more than the base Lyriq. I’m getting the Lyriq when it comes out next year hands down.
There you go again. You are just a fraud in grandmas basement.
Check out the cover and story here and learn. You may want to invest millions that you don’t have.
Complete story on how the two speed can help lower cost and extend ranges. This is one of several transmissions you can find that are being developed buy the supplier market.
It’s not BS if you can back it up.
I saw these guys trying to pedal that EV 2 speed system on Autoline 2 years ago, but nowhere in production… Maybe it will help in China, for the Hong Guang Mini, but GM’s problem is they are so far behind Tesla its not even funny when it comes to Ev powertrain design (and car design, GM can make them pretty, but the spec sheet sucks), and Tesla does not need a 2 speed, to not only outperform the GM products, but also be more efficient doing it. Tesla Model Y is more efficient than a Bolt in watt hours per mile or MPGE, even though it is much larger, more spacious, more comfortable, higher quality, and has massively more performance. Why? Tesla did not need a 2 speed. I mean GM needs to go back to the drawing board, and Wall Street has been giving them the benefit of the doubt, but if GM does not deliver EV’s that compete with Tesla, that wall street enthusiasm will dry up just as fast as it came, and GM stock will be back to the doldrums like it was the last decade. Worse, Now Tesla is taking the next step in chassis design with their die cast chassis sections, like most things, Tesla will struggle with it for a while, but eventually they will get it, and GM’s unibodies will overnight become obsolete. GM should be a leader, not a follower. GM got attacked by the Japanese in the 70’s and 80’s on quality and fuel efficiency, and they lost, in the EV movement GM is under attack again, by VW, Tesla and Hyundai now, but eventually the Chinese will be here with their EV’s too. Old people buy cars on design, young engineers buy them on specs, that is why outside of just about any large companies engineering offices you see a parking lot filled with Tesla’s. My children’s friends when they visit they have no interest in our 2500HD Denali, or E-Tron they want to look at the Tesla (which is our cheapest, and lowest frills car). GM is in trouble again, they just do not realize it yet (or maybe they do?). If GM has to put 100 kWh battery packs in cars to make them go as far as Tesla’s with 75 kWh batteries, GM is at a 25% disadvantage on battery cost if all other things are equal. Then you factor GM’s software disadvantage, and no clear vision on charging infrastructure, and you can see, they have risks going forward in the EV age. I see myself pairing my GM holdings over the next year as just like in Tesla stock the easy money has already been made, and going forward I am not sure if I will own GM vehicles as they seem to be technologically obsolete. I mean driving my HD pickup is laborious (I try to drive it as little as possible) compared to the EV’s, its clunky, and slow, and has a long list of flaws that come with all combustion vehicles. Now, you can focus on insulting me, but the bottom line is GM is being terribly, and over the next 2 years it will get worse as cars like the Ioniq 5 come out, and have superior efficiency and charging rate. GM has the T1 program to keep them in business, but even that is not competitive in many ways, and GM is blowing the launch of the refresh models. The problem as I see it for GM, is they are not thinking outside the box, they are not relentlessly pursuing doing things different and advancing their technology. The Unibody under the Hummer is one example, it has hundreds of stamped parts that take a lot of people just to handle, and then an expensive body shop to weld all the bits and pieces together. Tesla is doing 3 casting that replace the entire unibody, and then extruded frame around the battery. I sure hope GM is paying attention, as if Tesla’s plan works, its a game changer in automotive body shops. Its that out of the box thinking is why Tesla has a $500B market cap and GM, well only $80B Even though today GM has a solid fundamental business, but Tesla’s visions go way past GM, and instead of doing it with dozens of different models Tesla does it with 1 model in each segment, and mass production. Tesla also does not spend billions of dollars per year advertising. OK, now I officially sound like a Tesla fan boy… Yuck!!!
Exactly… SO disappointing… and that I am a GM fan boy, but cannot support overweight vehicles any more then overweight… Well, I am not going to say it.
I’m a GM fan when they earn it, not a fan boy, and used to be more of a Ford man until pretty recently. But even so, its obvious that you are totally overreacting, my guy. Calm down a bit. All this doomsday apocalyptic hysteria…over a weight rating? And then picking fights with everyone over it? It’s a solid truck man, chill. Supposedly you invest? With this kind of panic, how often do you bail out of stock? Relax, let’s see what GMC does on the road before all this.
160 lb. soccer moms are chauffeuring the kids around in large SUVs
120 lb. soccer moms are doing their personal trainer, while the nanny takes the kids to soccer.in a rusted out Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme.
The maid drives a Chevy Spark.
I don’t understand your specific kind of crazy, but I do admire your total commitment to it. Sorry about your ex.
It’s not that I am panicked about the Hummer, it’s what this means for the Silverado EV and all the other BT1 platform vehicles. They are all going to be porkers, and overweight, its just floors me that GM brass let this get so far along, and I already entered my votes for this year, darn. GM needs to like Tesla, relentlessly look at every part and squeeze efficiency out of every part they can. You know Tesla puts in very basic and plain interiors, but every part is soft touch, and quality looking and feeling, not that cheapened ugly hard plastic we find in so many GM vehicles including the new Escalade. Tesla also spends big money on Silicon Carbide inverters, because they are a bit more efficient, I am guessing GM is just running bargain basement off somebody’s shelves inverters. As an investor I do not panic, but I might sell a stock if I no longer believe their story (actually I bought more GM last week to replace shares I sold a month ago, I always sell a little when a stock makes a new high, then buy it back in a dip). I cannot buy the Hummer Ev now, not because I panic, but because it does not have the capability to fill the roll I need a truck for. I need to be able to pull a 12K lb trailer occasionally, and that means 1200-1500 lbs of tongue weight, already past the Hummer EV’s payload before I even get in. the cab.. I only have a 3 car garage, so it looks like I have to keep the old 2020 Duramax for now, until somebody builds a capable EV pickup that can replace it (the sooner the better). GM better have some miracle light weighting by the time they get to the Silverado Ev, because if it is over 7000lbs its going to flop in the market as Tesla’s Cybertruck will be well under that, as well as the Rivian. The Rivian is 5800 lbs with the 135 kWh battery, 4 motors, and the off road package. What I want to ask is how much does the extreme off road package on the Hummer EV add for weight? If it’s around 1000lbs it should have been optional, not standard, because many customers are not going to be rock crawling, and would prefer the truck to have more efficiency and capability. GM succeeded in building a great looking toy for Hummer fans, but its a terrible truck, and a terrible EV. Lyriq is not much better, terrible packaging efficiency, and TOO heavy to be competitive on efficiency.
“I cannot buy the Hummer EV now, not because I panic, but because it does not have the capability to fill the roll I need a truck for.”
I don’t know if you’re as rich as you say, if you own as much stock as you claim, if you drive an Audi E-tron, if you can even afford a Hummer at all, etc. But this statement you made says it all – if you wanted the Hummer EV to fill the role of a 1500 or super duty pickup, you don’t have any grasp of the purpose of this truck. None.
This is new technology, and anyone expecting it to totally supplant traditional BOF ICE pickups is either extremely misguided, or downright delusional. That kind of role you want the Hummer to fill is decades away; this is an offroad monster and halo vehicle. No hard feelings on our bet or anything else, but please adjust your expectations a bit. And not just for your sake. Cheers.
Can’t reason with idiots. He is just another fraud that will vanish in time or get banned.
Grossly irresponsible. This product is being pushed as a “green” product to deal with a climate crisis and its an utter sham. They’ll be driven by tiny soccer moms who have no need for a 9,000 vehicle to move a 120 pound person from home to the school and back home. It’s electric, yes, but electricity is still largely generated by burning fossil fuels and the a Hummer EV is consuming, way, way more than its fair share. At least the old Hummer was an honest gas hog and an unapologetic climate destroyer. This thing does the same thing under the guise of being green. If one cares about the planet, buy a Spark, not this $100,000 monstrosity.
this is correct. well said.
The climate changes daily mate. A weak argument. During the middle ages earth was colder and had a lot crop failures. Just look at the black plague during that time. They also did not have chevy small blocks going around to bring the earth back to warmer cycles. Oh wait I forgot the climate change crowd is only looking at a zoomed in portion of the X axis for earths temperatures. Go to China or North Korea with that mindset. If one can afford it they can buy. Who are you to say what one should buy with their money. I agree with you on this vehicle being too much for a 120 soccer mom broad! Too much power. She should be in a FWD underpowered Buick lol. This vehicle is a halo vehicle for GM. So its not going to be seen in mass. You should be more concerned about the future common low people mover type of car that will get embarrassing range compared to a cheap ICE.
The average range of ice cars is 300 miles.
My 2017 4 cylinder Impala would easily go 600 plus miles on a tank of gas on all trip driving and my current optioned out 2019 V6 can go close to 500. Smaller cars can do that and more along with hybrids etc. When you throw in gas swilling trucks and SUV’s that number drops but I highly doubt it’s only 300 miles!
Small 4 ton limited bridges watch out!
Hold on everyone. If the Hummer EV Edition 1 Pickup only weighs 691 pounds more than the GMC 2021 Sierra 3500HD, that is actually pretty good for the Hummer. Hear me out. Let’s take a look at the specs of the Hummer EV Edition 1 Pickup. I think it has a 200kW battery and that is why it weighs so much. It is estimated that it can go 350 miles on a single charge which is really good for such a large truck. It also has 3 motors which provide 1000 hp. By comparison the GMC 2021 Sierra 3500HD only has one motor rated at only 445 hp. So I don’t think the weight is that heavy for the Hummer EV Edition 1 Pickup when you compare the specs of the two trucks.
But I can tow almost 36K pounds with the 3500HD and if the tank is approaching empty, I can fill it up easily and quickly at any gas station that has diesel. The only reason for the comparison was for the excessive weight of the Hummer so people would be able to relate it to some other vehicle that they kinda know about and have seen. Other than that, pointless to compare the two.
At, 10400 Lb GVWR, if registered to a business entity, or used for business purposes this vehicle will qualify as a commercial motor vehicle and be subject to all applicable interstate/intrastate regulations and operators requirements. It would have been much more responsible of GM to have done whatever was required to keep the GVWR at 10000lb or less. May seem minor to most people, but it will effect some and what their intended usage is.
These fat ass vehicles should require 12k truck plates.
Liability insurance is going to be expensive if you can afford one in the first place.
Although the weight is ridiculous, and the performance specifications are challenging depending on each point of views, still the Hummer EV1, in whatever configuration, it will be a Personal Vehicle, just like a $100K Cayenne or a MB G Class.
Forget about the soccer moms, the Green advocates and the Global Warming defenders.
At the end, only a few years from now, the Hummer EV will dwindle in sales as it happened with the Hummer H2 and Hummer H3T. They found every garage in the world that “desired” them, not “needed” them. And then sales basically went to zero.
At 9,000 pounds I hope that any of them T-bones something (let alone a small car). I say this because typically a driver of a 3500HD Truck is very well aware of what he/she is driving and the precautions that must be taken. But a Hummer EV driver…
Can you imagine the wear and tear on local roads on highways caused by the weight?
Not much… A typical concrete mixer truck has more weight than the entire Hummer EV on each front tire when it leaves the yard fully loaded with concrete.
I mean, sheesh, it’s a featherweight compared to your typical 80,000 lb. loaded 18-wheeler. And you’re bound to see most Hummer EVs with only one (physically fit) Green New Dealer treading lightly back and forth to work. Unlike those morons in their overloaded 18-wheelers! What are all you numbskulls fussing about?
Can someone who is educated on this “green new deal” how much is global world temperature going to be reduced?
Can someone who is up on all this environmental impact stuff tell me how much the global world temperature is going to be reduced by the “”green new deal”?
I have no problem with the weight, its the price of the unit and the charging time it takes to charge it. Can not see paying $100,000 and a charge time of 2 to 3 hours with a supper charger.
Yes, the Hummer EV Edition 1 is over 9,000 lbs., but it has 3 motors, a 200kW battery and an out-of-this world torque rating of 11,500 FT-LB. That is correct and not a typo, 11,500 FT-LB of maximum torque. The mentioned Sierra only has 910 FT-LB of maximum torque. And it can go 350 miles on a single charge without cargo or hauling anything, of course.