The 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning is set to shake up the North American auto industry after making its official debut during a live-streamed event at the automaker’s World Headquarters in Dearborn, Michigan this evening.
The first battery-powered Ford F-Series will be sold in the four-door Super Crew body configuration only with a 5.5-foot standard length bed. Pricing will start at $39,974 for the base fleet-oriented model before federal tax and state incentives, while the next most affordable trim, the XLT, will start at $52,974. Upmarket Lariat and Platinum trim levels will also be available from launch.
Both standard range and extended range battery packs will be available in the truck, with the standard range battery providing an estimated 230 miles of range and the extended range pack proving around 300 miles of range. All versions of the truck will feature a dual-motor powertrain and four-wheel-drive, although power output differs between standard and extended range models. The standard range F-150 Lightning produces 426 horsepower, while the extended-range model makes 563 horsepower. Torque output for both is the same at 775 pound-feet. The more powerful model will hustle from zero to 60 mph in around four seconds, Ford estimates.
A 150 kW DC fast charger can add about 54 miles of range to the larger battery pack in 10 minutes, while charging from 15 percent to 80 percent capacity will take around 44 minutes. A 32-amp Ford mobile charger will charge the larger battery from 15 percent to full in roughly 19 hours. Ford also offers home 48-amp and 80-amp charging stations that can fill the battery from 15 percent to full in 13 and 8 hours, respectively.
Backing up the F-150 Lightning’s robust powertrain is a multi-link rear suspension setup that helps make the truck the best-handling pickup in Ford’s stable, the automaker says. It hasn’t lost its pickup truck character, though, boasting a 10,000 lb towing capacity for the extended range model and a 1,800 pound payload capacity.
Production of the Ford F-150 Lightning will begin at Ford’s Rouge River facility next Spring. The automaker has already begun taking $100 reservations for the truck via its website prior to the start of the production.
GM, for its part, is working on its own mass-market electric truck based on the Chevy Silverado, which will be built alongside the GMC Hummer EV at the automaker’s Factory Zero plant in Michigan. The Hummer EV, which will enter production later this year, is an upmarket lifestyle vehicle that would not be considered a direct rival to the Ford F-150 Lightning.
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And it has a super sweet frunk.
The F150 has an upper-end price range of over $90k. That definitely puts it into the Hummer EV range but having fewer features and range.
Hummer EV is $113K, that is 28% more then 90K Hummer also has less payload and towing capacity, and likely higher consumption.
Hummer is a vanity truck with no truck abilities, and poor efficiency. This Ford has better features that the common folk can use, and looks quite a bit more efficient.
There is a lower level $80,000 Hummer trim (EV2) coming later, so it will overlap, but that’s OK. These trucks will compete only at that price range.
Ya, that Hummer is coming in 2024, and has less range
You can option up the battery in the EV2 to get the 300+ mile range.
The Hummer is an adventure truck. it’s targeted at a different group of people with different capabilities and features than the F-150 Lightning. They are both good.
Of course, working people are not going to buy the Hummer, Small Cab (for a crew) Low payload and no V2G capability, Hummer is obsolete as of tonight. GM needs to get to work on the Silverado EV, and see if they can come up with something better. Ford is putting in some really cool and game changing features.
LOL the Hummer isn’t obsolete. The Ford can not do any of the extreme off roading the Hummer can. The Ford isn’t designed for that.
The Cab in the Hummer is fine and has the t-tops the Ford doesn’t have.
Also the payload for the Hummer is only 400 pounds less than the Ford at top spec.
We don’t know the payload for the lower trimmed Hummer’s but I bet it may be higher.
As for V2G, the Hummer has V2V capability and GM may change these features down the line to support V2G. It’s a nice to have feature but it isn’t standard on the Ford or the Hummer it’s a pricy option.
Wrong Wrong Wrong… Hummer Payload is 1354 lbs, F150 Lightning is 2000, that is a difference of 646 lbs or 50% more than the Hummer basically.
The Hummer SUT will not have V2V, until 2023 after the SUV launches per GM Ford has 11 different outlets to charge from including in the Frunk. Ford has reverse trailer assist and a few other cool features.
Hummer is a toy, F150 lightning a work truck. Now I am more excited to see what GM offers in the Silverado EV, GM has work to do…
The extended-range Lightning version’s maximum payload is a little less at 1,800 pounds
Ok, The Hummer is a toy, the F150 lightning is a tool… do you know the difference?
Like I said, lets wait to see the Silverado EV, it should be better than the Hummer, but price and payload might be an issue compared to the Ford, and you know GM interiors are not great. Too much cheap hard plastic. GM will probably do some small touch screen, so small I have to put my glasses on to see the font…
Cool features like in-car billboard ads? Yeah Ford’s really going all out these days.
Are you saying the Raptor is obsolete too? Because it is way more expensive than the Ram Rebel, and can not tow nearly as much, or haul as much payload?
Much like the Hummer vs Lightning comparison, they are not competing in the same category.
lol the hummer EV’s are not meant to compete with the F150 as they’re marketed and engineered as Halo like luxury adventure vehicles. they’re very large, very heavy and not very aerodynamic. loaded with heavy equipment and tech that a Silverado most likely won’t have. the Hummers can also power a home or power other EV’s so idk where you get that from. Ford took the existing F150 platform and swapped the power and drive train making it easier and less costly to produce. The coming Silverado EV will probably be less gimmicky, less heavy and more aerodynamic than the hummer giving it better payload and range. GM already said it will come with 400 miles of range and be priced appropriately.
you guys need to try using email or text rather than this. Give us a break
The Hummer is a bragging right Truck , look at me am big heavy and expensive
You’re assuming GM doesn’t have a EV Sierra in the reveal this year or next. Quit comparing a super truck to a everyday truck. Price obviously will be drastically different
This starts at $40,000, far less than hummer ev, doesn’t seem to compete at all. It can max out at $90,000
Where is the top model Lightning R with 1000hp, 0-60 3sec,400 mile range, 1000 payload and 5000 lb towing ???
Ford Nailed it, great truck, and cool features at the right price… Your Move GM???
should rivian be nervous or do they have enough cool to justify their premium?
Rivian has great interiors and still takes the advantage in charging and range and has towing that’s good enough for most people. I think that they’re worried but they also cater to very different customers. Lightning: Towing, capability, and overall the more average truck buyer and the R1T I think is targeted to outdoorsy people and people who want a large amount of capability but at a more compact size so more Ranger and Colorado buyers but they want something a bit bigger than those. Rivian should do fine but I could imagine they got some preorders canceled last night and Ford has invested into Rivian so I doubt they would want to harm them but yeah. Rivian is definitely going to be a EV company that’s going to stick around for a while unlike all those randoms like Fisker and I doubt Lucid Air is going to make it. I mean, they’re not going to make much sales by selling a 130k vehicle and people don’t really know much about Lucid except it beats Tesla.
Truck has weak specs and really tame “features”. The Hummer gives us a preview of the Capabilities of the Silverado EV, which is the real competitor for the Ford. GM has way better tech and is much further ahead than Ford in EV development. Ford bought into Rivian to even be able to make this truck. There’s no contest here.
Go resume your humping over at Ford Authority.
GM had better tech, where? Hummer weighs 9000 lbs, that does not sound technically advanced… Sounds like an overweight pig… Sticking more big heavy batteries in a vehicle to gain range over having better, and more efficient engineering is foolish.
Ford trucks today have more tech than GM’s sorry, but thats just a fact. Fords have adaptive Cruise control, parking assist, trailer back up assist, a 7.2 kW generator in the Hybrid model… Oh ya, Ford has a Hybrid model too, that will out accelerate any GM truck in production today, and can power your house in an outage.
I officially think GM’s BT1 program is in trouble, too heavy, too expensive, and lacking efficiency Rivian, Ford and Tesla have found. I hope GM proves me wrong, or their stock is going to get crushed. Ford got it right, using their off the shelf Aluminum cab and bed and just building a new frame to put under it, GM likely spending $1.5B more in development and tooling, but their unibody does not seem to have any advantage (GM has a smaller cab, smaller bed, and heavier) Ford hit a home run, while GM is striking out.
Yeah, you’re fan boying really hard there.
I don’t understand how you correlate weight with technology. Batteries weigh a lot. How much does the Ford’s battery pack weigh? What does it weigh compared to GM’s comparable battery pack? The Hummer weighs 9000 lbs and still reaches 60 in 3 seconds, lol.
Ford only has a Hybrid because they’re scrambling to even remotely competitive and relevant in the electrification race. You want to put up Ford’s adaptive cruise against GM’s, or how about Supercruise? Probably not Supercruise since Ford doesn’t exist in that space 😉
T1 was developed with EV in mind. It is superior to the Ford platform in that regard. It wasn’t an after thought like the “Lightning”, that was haphazardly slapped together after Ford partnered with Rivian. Just wait for the Silverado for a fair comparison. Comparing the Hummer isn’t exactly fair since it is a Halo vehicle.
There’s a reason GM’s stock price is 5x that of Fords 😊
@Geoff, The whole idea of EV’s and the Ev movement is about efficiency, do the most with the least. Your caveman thinking of rating a car based on the 0-60 time is archaic. Why is Hummer so bloody slow, compared to a Tesla model S or X, or Porsche Taycan, they all have much smaller batteries and more highway range, and will smoke that Hummer to 60. Bottom line is that the Hummer and GM’s Ev moment is supposed to be a technological tour de force, but what I am seeing is billions spent retooling a factory and production system to build an overweight pig that still has limited range and terrible efficiency. This Hummer EV has all the same problems as the last Hummer projects, overweight, and limited appeal, when GM should have been focusing on EV trucks for the mass market like Ford, Tesla and Rivian have done.
Mentioning stock, GM down in the last week, while Ford up 10%, Ford also has 3X as many shares outstanding, so when Ford’s stock price is 1/3 of GM their value is the same. How is Gm stock doing compared to Tesla? Tesla trading at 10X the price of GM? Explain that? I think Gm is the better managed company and has the most potential ultimately, but GM brass should be called out when they make mistakes, and launching the Hummer as an overweight limited use EV while trying to yell green green green is a mistake. Watch how this plays out when the EV media gets to drive the Hummer, they are going to rip it up and down on efficiency and range, because they will take it faster than the EPA test, Drive the Hummer 75-80 mph, and watch that range drop from 350 to 200 Miles. This is so predictable…
Hummer EV does not use 1 structural part from the T1 platform, and also does not share any structural dimensions, its an all new unibody chassis. Todd Hubbard, the engineer in charge of structures has been all over talking about BT1… Not 1 structural part or structural dimension shared with T1 seems to be the company line.
Now I do not mind a debate, but do more homework before you write back to me so you do not look so silly, Ford’s Ev and Rivian do not share anything, Ford uses SK Innovation and LG pouch style battery cells, Rivian uses Samsung 2170 cylindrical cells, Rivian also uses a 4 motor drive system with 1 motor driving each wheel, Ford is using 2 motor AWD that I believe they buy from Borg Warner.
The Lightning has self driving capabilities where unfortunately GM didn’t put their Supercruise technology in the Hummer (for whatever reason which is really a shame since it’s one of the best out there) and I wouldn’t really consider the Hummer a rival to the Lightning. It’s more like a Raptor competitor however, I wouldn’t really be surprised if Ford made some Raptor version of the Lightning within the next 3 years.
WTH are you talking about? Super Cruise is in the Hummer EV they show it off several times in different videos.
Here:
https:// www. youtube .com /watch?v=janXDhXcjPw
Jack, the GMC Hummer EV comes standard with Super Cruise.
These figures are highly aggressive and very close to Tesla’s. That’s good news for all of us. More competition means lower prices and more features in the near future.
Better prices then Tesla on Tesla lower 2 tiers of Cybertruck…, the F150 lightning comes standard with AWD.
I am surprised and impressed… Great Job Ford…
Yah, but we got the truck with the cheapest, crappiest interior right now!
If nothing else you are consistent. xD
Negative, this new lightning is the cheapest interior. Base trim is a commercial???? Is that below an XL???? Is it named commercial to ward of traditional XL buyers who would soon find out it has heat and AC and that’s it? I bet it uses the same interior layout as the E series vans. Still disappointing in my mind. The 40K version is less capable than the Silverado WT (a 28k truck) and essentially has the equivalent of a 9 gallon tank. The most expensive is 90 K and has nothing on the Denali carbon pro…all for 20K more. Fuel savings will never make up the difference. What a rip off!!! Well when you got to suck up to wokeness
It’s not as bad as the Japanese cars tho but yeah…those cars are like from 2000. No one can really deny that GM is really cheap when it comes to their interiors. I can’t even tell if the “wood” trim is real on my 19’ Sierra Denali and that thing was pretty expensive. If GM designers from the 50s and 60s looked at the interiors today they would be so embarrassed. It’s time for GM to quit cost cutting and put the customer first instead of profit.
GM is gone, it’s now lower case girly gm.. They have no idea how to satisfy a customer.
Curb weight of the F-150 Lightning EV is 6,500 pounds according to some publications. However it isn’t clear if that’s the base or extended range.
200 lbs difference between the batteries has been reported 1800 and 2000 lbs (that seems like a small difference for 70 miles difference in range)
What’s funny about the weight of these EV pick ups is that in my neck of the woods – ( S Central Pa) these trucks would not be able to cross many local bridges legally, and in some cases unless they are are a resident of the area or neighborhood many local streets are limited to 3 tons.
EV’s are heavy in general, but Tesla was able to engineer a car with the same cargo and passenger capability as the Lyriq (weighs 5611 lbs in rwd trim 300 mile range) compared to the Tesla model Y (weighs 4400 lbs in AWD form with 326 miles of EPA rated range) Both have 68 cubic feet of cargo space, and seating for 5, and the Tesla likely out accelerates the Lyriq too, Did I mention the Tesla starts at $50K, charges faster, and has an awesome nationwide charging network? Come on GM, let’s see some light weighting, its essential to make EV’s efficient.
I will give Ford huge credit for NOT making the electric F150 look stupid. I like that it looks so much like a regular F150. Really think that front trunk is great giving them the bed utility yet with the car-like trunk closed in. Love it. The only thing I don’t like is the ugly i-pad stuck to the dash.
Oh cool, a Ford article on GM Authority. Whoever posted this knew damn well the flame war that would ensue in the comments. A shallow and pedantic effort.
This truck kind of shows what I expected.
Ford had to rush this out to the market before the dedicated EV models arrive. If this came out after the others it would have gone much un noticed.
The Lightning for the most is just a truck that had the a EV driveline added to it nothing more or less. They lowered it and put a block off in the grill. Ford left much on the table.
The Hummer has two jobs. One to market EV trucks ands showcase what is possible, It is a rolling Auto show event you can buy. Two it is to help recover the ROI faster with the higher price and ability to sell at these numbers.
The Chevy remains shrouded for the most part. My hope is GM leverages the Hummer platform with less battery and less motor than the Hummer. This will reduce the cost and make it more for every day use and costs. We don’t need a WTF mode in a Silverado but we need range, price and general performance that matches the ICE model.
If GM uses the same approach here as Ford it will be a great letdown.
This segment is up for grabs as the Tesla is more a show truck that will end up late and costing more than promised. It also shows to be impractical for a daily use vehicle.
The other trucks that are coming are all start up’s that will have a tough road. For success they will need to have contracts to bring the money in. With out that many will struggle.
If GM nails this like I hope they could really take a lead here., Imagine a fully designed EV truck that cost around the Ford but with better range. It is possible.
Silverado EV will use the Hummers unibody structure and have the same 200 kWh battery pack for the 400 mile range version (likely a dual motor 750 hp) , The 50 mile range difference is the inefficiency of the Hummer packaging. GM will also offer a non stacked battery fleet model of the Silverado with just over 200 miles of range, (RWD) but can GM get close to that $40K price? I doubt it, and Ford’s are all AWD, including the $40K model.
If GM nails it? are you dreaming, GM is playing catch up in EV’s, and trucks in general, they have not nailed anything except Hype. When they build a better and more efficient EV than Tesla you can talk about nailing something, but for now GM is the follower, not the leader. You are just a GM fan boy with no idea about real engineering or efficiency. I mean GM just released the Bolt EUV at $43K and it has higher consumption and slower than a Tesla model Y that is far larger, heavier, more range, more comfortable, and do not get me started on the Bolt’s charging which is awful. I guess thats why Model Y does not need $10+ K on the hood to sell, and sells in much larger numbers and more pleasing to customers. When it comes to EV tech, GM is a laggard until they prove otherwise… Hummer proves they can build an overweight pig… Nothing more.
Unibody? Do I need to post Al Oppenheisers interview again where he said no Unibody?
As for the rest of your fluff you have no clue just as the rest of us since nothing has been shown yet. It is all speculation.
Al never said the Hummer is “not” a unibody, by definition that would be a lie… If you integrate the frame into the chassis structure that is a unibody be definition…
Once again, back to the dictionary for the short bussers, a Unibody is
A type of body/frame construction in which the body of the vehicle, its floor plan and chassis form a single structure. Such a design is generally lighter and more rigid than a vehicle having a separate body and frame.
Like a Crackerbox you mean? smack one corner and the entire body crumples.
You certainly are opinionated with assumed and non-factual information. You keep mentioning GM is behind and playing catch up with the current trucks and EV’s. Well the current trucks weren’t designed for the suburban yuppies with a dolled up interior, after all the research and talking to actual truck buyers they realized they were very happy with the layout and functionality (as well as durability) of the more utilitarian interior. It wasn’t until people like you and some automotive reviewers that have no business in or using a truck decide the fancy car interior of the dodge with the big touch screen is better that noise was made. I promise those that use the trucks for work aren’t complaining at all, except now if GM puts a less useful CUV interior in it. This T1 was strengthened in all the right areas, added engines for power and efficiency, reworked the chassis, improvements in the size of the bed and easy of repairs, all Ram did was put a fancy interior in a slightly reworked heavy ass old truck and put a dolled up interior with a tesla touch screen in it, whoa watch out, class leading! The more powerful 5.7 hemi can’t even out run the GM 5.3 trucks.
As far as EV’s go, GM has been a leader for decades and were one of the first to start taking serious looks as battery futures. Starting with the EV1 and what they learned with that to the plug in Volt and being the first to invest billions in going fully electric in the near future. Ford took sloppy seconds from GM with their dropping the Rivian partnership to be able to get an electric truck out early. While I agree the Hummer and Ford operate in different demographics what is learned from Hummer is being applied and improved with the Silverado. They aren’t far behind that either, they have already shown sneak peaks and with what the Hummer is capable of the Silverado EV should easily best the Ford in the key area of range. Either way adding more electric vehicles from the biggest manufacturers and the highest selling classes will help the network which is the key if batteries are our future. Kudos for Ford getting this out, but blown away I am not, I call it an average at best attempt.
Blah, blah, blah.
To be honest, I liked my 2011 Denali 2500HD more then my 2020 T1 version. The 2011 was 450 lbs lighter, had better outward visibility, better brakes, and steering feel. On the interior the 2011 had better, and more comfortable seats, overall drove nicer especially at speeds over 70 mph. The 2020 Duramax and 10 speed are awesome, and it does get better fuel economy on the freeway, but thats where the pleasure ends. Thats my opinion as the owner of both. I have never owned a Ford truck so can only look at them by specs and friends opinions , and not from experience, but Ford has some cool tech GM is missing. I do not even follow Ram, have no idea about them. I bought my 2020 GMC Denali HD out of loyalty to GM, and overall have been disappointed outside of the Duramax L5P and 10 speed. It’s the last time I will give GM the benefit of the doubt and buy their truck blindly, they have to win technically or I am going elsewhere. I talk to 5 First Edition Hummer reservation holders regularly, when the mass and payload were announced, we all cancelled, and I am sure we are not the only ones. The Hummer is going to give GM’s green movement a black eye as it just shows that they really cannot compete with Tesla on engineering a mass market EV, the new Bolt EUV just puts an exclamation point on that. GM has to build an obnoxious niche Hummer because the engineering to compete with Rivian, Ford and Tesla is too hard. GM does not have the relentless pursuit of every ounce of efficiency the way Tesla does, and GM is not approaching this from first principals, and trying to leapfrog… They are trying to get green cred, but not doing their homework to be the best. I am pretty sure the Ram TRX will be a better off roader than the Hummer as the 2300 lbs less mass will show up in many places off road. I love GM, and Love Ev’s but GM had disappointed me both with my 2020 Denali HD, and with their Ev’s so far. GM might pull some rabbits out of the hat on the Silverado EV, but my hopes are very dashed. As for T1 trucks, never again for me. GM had too many misses on the 2020 HD. I mean the seats are just awful, worst in class by far. B52’s might have better seats and they consist of a concrete block with a board on top, so says my brother in law who flew them on alert in the 80’s.
So we’re not going to talk about how GM rushed out the Lyriq 3+ yrs early and the Hummer 2+ years early but yet you criticize Ford for releasing the Lightning a year early… I’m confused. The only thing that seemed rushed on it was that fricken iPad screen that they’re even putting on the refreshed Expedition and now it has barely any physical buttons. Also you got to remember that they’ve been working on it for quite a few years. Remember that video when they showed that it could tow a million lbs a few years+ back?
I like it. I hope the Silverado EV doesn’t look weird and bad proportioned with tiny headlights and fu***** tall hood. Ford nails its F-Series every generation, congrats.
I don’t care if it’s a $100K Hummer, or a $40K F150, electric trucks are and in the near term will continue to be, useless toys. People can argue all they want about whether the Hummer or Lightening has more payload, the reality is that once you load either of them to capacity, their range will be severely hampered, severely limiting their usefulness as a truck.
The F150’s 230 and 300 mile range aren’t all that impressive to start with, but what happens to that range in daily use in the real world? How many miles does the truck get when you put a couple 200 pound workers and 500 pounds of tools in the back. How far does a Lightening Lariat go on I-81 in the hills of Virginia, at 75 mph, with a family of four and a weeks worth of luggage, two kids running tablets, the stereo playing, and AC blowing on high? What’s the range of the Lightening going to be with that 8000 lb Airstream hanging off the back of it, and all that luggage in the frunk?
The Lightening, Hummer, Rivvion, Vesla and proposed Silverado EV will be great for the person who has to have the latest and greatest new toy in their driveway. But until they can deliver range similar to a fully loaded ICE powered truck, under real world conditions, and be fully charged in 5 or 10 minutes, they’ll all still just be toys, not practical or useful trucks.
When they make one that can drive from my home to my cottage pulling my 6500lb boat I’ll think about it. It’s not just the range, it’s the charging time and the infrastructure required to support them. It will take decades to build the power plants and grid infrastructure to support all the EV’s that the automotives think they will make. Think about all the homes out there with 100amp panels that are already overloaded. When I hear their predictions I know they don’t have a clue what they are doing.
Ford did an awesome job with the F-150 Lightning. The mega power frunk is HUGE, I also like how you can power your house with an EV truck during a power outage. If the Chevrolet Silverado EV have the same capabilities as the GMC Hummer EV or close, then it beats the F-150 Lightning. The Silverado. We know for sure the Silverado EV beats the F-150 Lightning in range. Btw, the real torque number for the GMC Hummer EV is about 1,000 lb-ft.
Ya, Hummer Ev is a powerhouse, it has to be to move the 9000 lb pig around. How is the efficiency? the most important metric in an ev?
So take the 350+ range with a massively inefficient design, ladle that to a more aerodynamic and lighter design and I bet we see 350-400 mile range on the Silverado with less battery and smaller motors. Combined with weight saving measures they use and aerodynamic properties in the current trucks.
Sure, the Silverado will have 400+ miles of EPA range, but cutting more than 1000 lbs off the Hummer will be a challenge. If the Silverado is 8K lbs with 400 mile range thats going to struggle to compete with the 6400 lb Rivian 400, which has a more aerodynamic design and smaller frontal area. Tesla will beat all of them on aerodynamics coupled with their class leading motor and battery efficiency, and simple to build structure. What that means is Tesla will have to install less batteries to go the same distance, decreasing weight and cost. This is who GM should be looking at for benchmarks, and attempting to leapfrog.
Hey Ford, nothing new there! What a disappointment?
This Ford F-150 Lightning is the kind of competitive pressure that GM needs. Nothing much is stated about the entry fleet $40,000 model (prior to $7500 fed tax credit), but I would assume this is a 2wd model to keep costs in check. All other models apparently are 4wd, which many purchasers do not need.
Ford gets it that they are making a ‘Work Truck’ and not a ‘Show Truck’. Interestingly, seemingly even the base models get some truck to home/shop power – depending on temporary overload capacity, 2400 watts is enough to run a small air compressor for roofing nailers or circular saws, as well as recharging several tool battery packs simultaneously – and for emergencies – can alternatively provide power to keep the food from spoiling and the basement sump pump from flooding, or running the fossil fuel heating system during cold winter months during power outages..
Of course, Premium Lariat or Platinum models (at more than double the price) have a decked out truck – but one attractive thing is that the extra large (presumably at least 90 kwh usable – since the high end vehicles can provide truck-to-home power of 30 kwh per day for 3 days) battery may be ordered for even the $40,000 model – sure to be a big seller.
Ford is claiming 40% reduction in maintenance costs – something which will cause the green eye shaded accountants in fleet usage an incentive to take a 2nd or 3rd look..
Well done Ford. Keep the pressure up on GM.
Not interested in one since range is too short. Get to 500 miles then maybe. Then only if the charging network increases dramatically.
I sense fear here again with the gm crowd. Rather than point fingers and make excuses I believe we could applaud this truck and what it means. You cannot deny, no matter how much you turn a deaf ear, that Ford constantly strives to lead and improve when it comes to the F series. Of course it has to because it brings in the money, many billions. Name me a vehicle that is perfect from the start. There will be teething problems with this along with the Hummer. And the one day Electric Silverado.
Give credit where it’s due. When it’s due. Like now.
By revealing their truck now, one thing that happens, is that the other makers have the target in sight. This happens again and again. There can be no excuses for gm to fail with the execution of their electrified money makers. Right? Or then what would we say then? Well they needed more time, there was a pandemic, the lead engineer stubbed his toe. Wonderful.
Again, the mantra, go gm, go Ford, go Ram.
Or go home.
We complain about long lines at gas stations which require 6 minute fill ups. Just imagine the frustration for all the EV’s waiting for hours to charge their highly explosive batteries and “C’mon Man” gives the manufacturers a pass because the high explosive powered EV’s will be considered “design flaws, not warranty problems. Fasten your seat belts folks, this ought to be a riot (pun intended). Meanwhile, back at the ranch people are dying from heat stroke because the power grids are failing.
Anyone know what the battery pack sizes are? Didn’t see anything in regards to that.
Curious on that front.
Just a guess 110 kWh and and the long range is 150 kWh
Yes, Ruprect – In the Ford Brochure, they say the extended battery pack will run a home for 3 days (or 10 days if power is rationed). In the footnote, they say the 3 day figure is arrived at by 3 days usage at 30 kwh per day. So that is 90 kwh useable even allowing for a slight inefficiency in the 60 Hz inverter on the truck to make the electricity of the type a home needs. So for a wild guess. How about 95 kwh usable for the extended version?
There is another place where the ‘ship to shore’ power cuts off when the battery gets down to about 1/3 capacity. if so, then that makes the ultimate battery capacity 143 kwh usable for the ‘extended’ (larger) battery.
Other hints are 8 hour charge time when charging at home at 19 kw. Seeing as the battery would need to taper the charge near the end again makes 143 kwh usable a reasonable guess.
Good job Ford!
Huh about the same price as a Bolt?
Ya, great point… You can get the F150 lightning for Bolt price, actually cheaper then the Bolt EUV launch edition.
Ford ate Mary Bara’s woke lunch.
That’s a fantastic deal when you think about it and that’s without the tax credit, not having to pay for gas, and less maintenance. I bet the base model with all the deals will come in the mid 30k region or less. In California maybe even the upper 20k region since they have more tax credits. I wonder what GM is going to do since all the Lightning’s competitors are really expensive or are just a Honda Ridgeline with a lot more capability. If I were to get a truck I’d probably get the XLT or Lariat model Lightning since it’s in my budget (50-60k), recent Fords have pretty good interiors, and it has pretty cool features such as that scale for the payload, the range estimater for towing a boat or something similar, and that cool front trunk but I’ll have to see what GM is bringing to the table with the Silverado EV but until then, I’m leaning towards the Lightning. I would prefer to get the Silverado EV but once again, it all depends on what Chevys bringing to the table (and pricing).
Very Cool, and impressive that they got the price range so low.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I really hope manufacturers can figure out a way to make a solid rear axle work with electric motors for trucks, as a solid axle is so much more stable than independent suspension when towing, or when maxing out payloads.
I have taken a few day to do all the research on the upcoming Ford F-150 Lighting.
The only feature I really like is the Mega Frunk. That will be awsome for customers. Besides that, nothing Earth Shattering at all. They basically stuffed a Battery pack on their current Truck. The Base Lighting looks like it belongs in the 1990’s.
I am sure Tesla is not worried abouty losing reservations to Ford at all and MOST importantly, GM should be able to destroy this with the upcoming Silverado EV. If GM isn’t Far Superior to this Ford then GM really dropped the Ball and in a Huge way.
Ford threw down the gaunltlet on the fleet EV pickup segment offing AWD of $39K – $7500 tax rebate so the cost is substantially lower then a Short Range Model 3, you get similar range, AWD, giant frunk, in a pickup format, Tesla has a problem on the is lower end, and I wonder if GM can compete down there with their higher new platform cost (at least initially)
As for the interior, I think it looks fine in the fleet segment, where customers do not care about features and comfort, they are just buying capability as cheap as they can.
@Donavan
I agree with you about them concentrating more so on the Fleet side. Lets be honest, Ford owns almost 50% of the Fleet Truck and Van market in the USA so it makes sense.
But on the Consumer side I just do not see anything that Ford has that GM cannot overtake them on.
The HUGE Frunk is great and the Two way V2G for the House if Genuous as well. But pretty much any EV can be made from the Manufacturer pretty easily to do V2G if they so chose too.
I really think GM has an easy hurdle to climb vs. the Lightning. Cannot wait to see what GM has in store for us.
A little Side note….I think the Design of the Ford Frunk is Genius. The so called Grill comes up so you have pretty much waist level to put your stuff inside and out. Unlike the Rivian and Cybertruck in which you will have to lift up the Cargo and place it inside the Frunk. Won’t be able to slide stuff inside and out like the in the Ford.
So what I see is that over the years people have written that they long for a stripped down version of a pickup. Few bells and whistles, 6 cylinder engine, no frills, base unit that doesn’t cost a fortune. Well here it is in EV form and now people are saying it’s too generic, not enough bling, and didn’t go far enough. It looks like the bargain of the day to me. And that’s a good thing. Nothing that gm does is missed by Ford and nothing that Ford does is missed by gm. Just saying now that gm will bring out a stripper version as well alongside their mega dollar Silverado’s. And gm will have the advantage of checking the real competition before letting the truck out of the gate. So yeah, again, gm is in the position to build something memorable. They have been here before. Maybe this time they will rise to the occasion instead of giving me reasons to walk away.
You do know you can purchase a WT 1500 for $29000.00 sticker and new on the lot sell for 3-5K less then sticker –