Chevy Camaro sales decreased in the United States, Canada and Argentina, while increasing in Brazil during the fourth quarter of 2020.
Chevrolet Camaro Sales - Q4 2020 - United States
In the United States, Chevrolet Camaro deliveries totaled 7,549 units in Q4 2020, a decrease of about 34 percent compared to 11,474 units sold in Q4 2019.During the complete 2020 calendar year, Camaro sales decreased about 38 percent to 29,775 units.
MODEL | Q4 2020 / Q4 2019 | Q4 2020 | Q4 2019 | YTD 2020 / YTD 2019 | YTD 2020 | YTD 2019 |
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CAMARO | -34.21% | 7,549 | 11,474 | -38.31% | 29,775 | 48,265 |
Chevrolet Camaro Sales - Q4 2020 - Canada
In Canada, Chevrolet Camaro deliveries totaled 245 units in Q4 2020, a decrease of about 11 percent compared to 275 units sold in Q4 2019.During the complete 2020 calendar year, Camaro sales decreased about 32 percent to 1,518 units.
MODEL | Q4 2020 / Q4 2019 | Q4 2020 | Q4 2019 | YTD 2020 / YTD 2019 | YTD 2020 | YTD 2019 |
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CAMARO | -10.91% | 245 | 275 | -32.11% | 1,518 | 2,236 |
Chevrolet Camaro Sales - Q4 2020 - South Korea
In South Korea, Chevrolet Camaro deliveries totaled 24 units in Q4 2020, a decrease of about 56 percent compared to 54 units sold in Q4 2019.During the complete 2020 calendar year, Camaro sales decreased about 51 percent to 92 units.
MODEL | Q4 2020 / Q4 2019 | Q4 2020 | Q4 2019 | YTD 2020 / YTD 2019 | YTD 2020 | YTD 2019 |
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CAMARO | -55.56% | 24 | 54 | -50.80% | 92 | 187 |
Chevrolet Camaro Sales - Q4 2020 - Mexico
In Mexico, Chevrolet Camaro deliveries totaled 16 units in Q4 2020, a decrease of about 67 percent compared to 49 units sold in Q4 2019.During the complete 2020 calendar year, Camaro sales decreased about 61 percent to 116 units.
MODEL | Q4 2020 / Q4 2019 | Q4 2020 | Q4 2019 | YTD 2020 / YTD 2019 | YTD 2020 | YTD 2019 |
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CAMARO | -67.35% | 16 | 49 | -61.46% | 116 | 301 |
Chevrolet Camaro Sales - Q4 2020 - Russia
In Russia, Chevrolet Camaro deliveries totaled 5 units in Q4 2020, a decrease of about 67 percent compared to 15 units sold in Q4 2019.During the complete 2020 calendar year, Camaro sales were flat at 0 units.
MODEL | Q4 2020 / Q4 2019 | Q4 2020 | Q4 2019 | YTD 2020 / YTD 2019 | YTD 2020 | YTD 2019 |
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CAMARO | -66.67% | 5 | 15 | * | 0 | 0 |
Chevrolet Camaro Sales - Q4 2020 - Brazil
In Brazil, Chevrolet Camaro deliveries totaled 70 units in Q4 2020, an increase of about 141 percent compared to 29 units sold in Q4 2019.During the complete 2020 calendar year, Camaro sales decreased about 21 percent to 120 units.
MODEL | Q4 2020 / Q4 2019 | Q4 2020 | Q4 2019 | YTD 2020 / YTD 2019 | YTD 2020 | YTD 2019 |
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CAMARO | +141.38% | 70 | 29 | -21.05% | 120 | 152 |
Chevrolet Camaro Sales - Q4 2020 - Argentina
In Argentina, Chevrolet Camaro deliveries totaled 2 units in Q4 2020, a decrease of about 75 percent compared to 8 units sold in Q4 2019.During the complete 2020 calendar year, Camaro sales decreased about 88 percent to 9 units.
MODEL | Q4 2020 / Q4 2019 | Q4 2020 | Q4 2019 | YTD 2020 / YTD 2019 | YTD 2020 | YTD 2019 |
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CAMARO | -75.00% | 2 | 8 | -88.00% | 9 | 75 |
Competitive Sales Comparison (U.S.)
The 34 percent decrease in U.S. Chevy Camaro sales during the final quarter of 2020 keeps the muscle car in third place in its segment by sales volume, behind the Dodge Challenger in first place with 14,605 units and the Ford Mustang in second with 13,453.
Challenger sales improved 2 percent while Mustang sales fell 21 percent. As such, the Camaro’s 34 percent drop was the most significant of the trio.
Sales Numbers - Two-Door Muscle Cars - Q4 2020 - USA
MODEL | Q4 20 / Q4 19 | Q4 20 | Q4 19 | Q4 20 SHARE | Q4 19 SHARE | YTD 20 / YTD 19 | YTD 20 | YTD 19 |
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DODGE CHALLENGER | +2.15% | 14,605 | 14,298 | 41% | 33% | -13.18% | 52,955 | 60,997 |
FORD MUSTANG | -21.44% | 13,453 | 17,124 | 38% | 40% | -15.73% | 61,090 | 72,489 |
CHEVROLET CAMARO | -34.21% | 7,549 | 11,474 | 21% | 27% | -38.31% | 29,775 | 48,265 |
TOTAL | -16.99% | 35,607 | 42,896 | -20.87% | 143,820 | 181,751 |
Being the segment best-seller, the Challenger also had the highest segment share of 41 percent. The Mustang took 38 percent, while the Camaro held on to 21 percent.
The two-door muscle car segment contracted an average of 17 percent to 35,607 units, meaning Camaro sales fell faster than the segment average.
For reference, we are providing sales results for the expanded two-door, mainstream sports car segment below.
Sales Numbers - Mainstream Two-Door Sports Cars - Q4 2020 - USA
MODEL | Q4 20 / Q4 19 | Q4 20 | Q4 19 | Q4 20 SHARE | Q4 19 SHARE | YTD 20 / YTD 19 | YTD 20 | YTD 19 |
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DODGE CHALLENGER | +2.15% | 14,605 | 14,298 | 37% | 31% | -13.18% | 52,955 | 60,997 |
FORD MUSTANG | -21.44% | 13,453 | 17,124 | 34% | 37% | -15.73% | 61,090 | 72,489 |
CHEVROLET CAMARO | -34.21% | 7,549 | 11,474 | 19% | 25% | -38.31% | 29,775 | 48,265 |
MAZDA MX-5 MIATA | +53.71% | 2,155 | 1,402 | 5% | 3% | +13.59% | 8,807 | 7,753 |
NISSAN 370Z | -74.58% | 135 | 531 | 0% | 1% | -18.04% | 1,954 | 2,384 |
TOYOTA 86 | -42.34% | 508 | 881 | 1% | 2% | -27.13% | 2,476 | 3,398 |
SUBARU BRZ | +45.53% | 521 | 358 | 1% | 1% | -2.87% | 2,267 | 2,334 |
FIAT 124 SPIDER | -24.18% | 326 | 430 | 1% | 1% | -35.29% | 1,711 | 2,644 |
TOTAL | -15.58% | 39,252 | 46,498 | -19.59% | 161,035 | 200,264 |
The GM Authority Take
While similarly-lackluster Q2 2020 results could have been attributed to negative impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, the third quarter performance made it clear that Chevy’s muscle car is being outmuscled (pun intended) by the Challenger and Mustang, as does the continued dip in sales in Q4. The poor performance could make it tough for GM executives to continuing making a business case for the vehicle, though a recent report indicates that The General will extend the production date of the sixth-gen Camaro thru 2026.
The continuous decline in Camaro sales can be attributed to several factors, including higher prices of the sixth-generation model, which pushed many price-conscious buyers to more affordable offerings from Ford and Dodge. The 2019 Camaro refresh aimed to address this competitive disadvantage with a revised trim level structure that covers a broader price spectrum. Notably, the 2019 Camaro became as much as $2,000 less expensive than the 2018 model, specifically on the mid-level LT models.
For the 2020 model year, Chevrolet made the Camaro even more affordable by introducing the all-new Camaro LT1 trim level. The V8-powered LT1 is powered by the same 6.2L V8 LT1 engine as the Camaro SS, but slots between the V6-powered LT models (1LT/2LT/3LT models) and the SS. This makes it more competitively priced than base V8-powered Challenger and Mustang models. However, even these price-related changes haven’t seemed to help the Camaro claw its way back to the top of the sales charts. The Bow Tie brand is currently offering a $2,750 cash discount for select Camaro models.
Other factors that could be contributing to the Camaro not being more popular includes reduced cabin visibility, a lackluster dash and instrument panel design, sub-par interior material quality, as well as little differentiation of the sixth-gen model from its fifth-gen predecessor in terms of “at-a-glance” exterior styling. Chevrolet attempted to address the “little differentiation” issue with revised front and rear fascias on the 2019 Camaro. Alas, the 2019 Camaro facelift wasn’t particularly well-received for SS models, prompting Chevrolet to deliver a second update for 2020 Camaro SS models. It’s also worth noting that Chevy doesn’t seem to be advertising the Camaro as much as key rivals, including Dodge.
Going forward, we don’t believe that Camaro sales will see an uptick unless Chevrolet begins to offer significant incentives on the model, begins to heavily advertise it, or both.
About The Numbers
- All percent change figures compared to Camaro sales for Q4 2019 sales, except if noted
- In the United States, there were 79 selling days for Q4 2020 and 78 selling days for Q4 2019
- South Korea sales figures reflect actual vehicle registrations rather than wholesales
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GM advertise the damn thing, reviews even from independent people say its the better car. I like and hope to get one later this year.
Advertising wouldn’t help. People who buy cars like this know very well the Camaro exists. If they wanted one they’d buy one. Though both Mustang and Challenger are down a good amount as well.
Adds are needed because back in the pony car day people who bought them didn’t buy them to race them. They bought them as commuter cars with a fun side. I would like to see someone put the v6 Camaro up against a v6 Camry and show the world what you give up with a sedan, as there still are sedan buyers out there, and the Camaro doesn’t have to be a V8, unless you want to race it then yes.
Right, the Mustang for a while was always referred to as a “chick’s car”, base versions with women kept sales up despite the v8 models. IMO all 3 models have one more redesign before being dropped or going EV if sales don’t improve.
The Challenger is in serious need for an update, the Camaro is likely to be discontinued in 2026, unless GM stylists can get their act together, but no way is Ford going to drop the Mustang, it will become a hybrid and EV, and just maybe a real rear seat, ha ha.
As for the Challenger it is on a platform that still sells well and FCA has long ago paid for the tooling. It remains popular and they just keep doing incremental updates, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
@Guestt bruh why do people like you keep saying these sports cars will go electric ?? Nobody except the purist electric car folks would buy the dang thing. I dont hate electric cars but nobody i mean nobody is ready or wants a sports car with no sound. It’ll be years, a few decades before people would except that, and that would be a very risky move for GM to even do and expect a profit from it
That’s what I said, it is more than looks, it has to have the sounds too.
2026?
At this rate there won’t be any buyers before then.
I own from new a 2019 1SS. I’m tired of reading about reduced visibility and cheap interior. Reduced viability only has to do with the impression from a non owner. There are many new buyers who don’t seem to care when almost 30,000 units were sold for 2020. The interior is nothing but cheap. I can never figure out what cheap plastic is. If you go with the 2SS it has heads up display. How many Mustangs and Challengers have that feature. The power and response from the LT1 engine is nothing like and the ten speed is silky smooth. At 80 MGH it’s in V4 mode getting 28+ mpg. No oil issues with AFM.
There is nothing wrong with the car and advertising will not add any more buyers.
Every car open this list is at risk due to low numbers.
Cars have just gotten so expensive today and with their limited nature to be used for more than just driving hurts them. Most people need more utility and at this price people can’t afford them as a third car.
The formula of being based on a cheaper econo car if broken too.
Talk now is the Fiat is gone, the Miata is on notice and may not see another gen.
The ability to modify these cars cheaply or easily is also gone.
Buyers today are targeting trucks. They are around the same price. Cheaper and easier to modify. You can use them for play or work.
Lifestyle vehicles like the Wrangler and now Bronco are popular with not only men but women. They are daily drivers yet the roof comes off with the doors and they are easy to modify.
I made my living selling Camaro and Mustang parts for nearly 20 years but now it is all, truck and Jeep with parts for older cars or hot rods.
The new performance car segment is getting slower yearly.
Chevrolet Camaro sales are flat for one simple reason, the Camaro is no longer competitive with cars like the Ford Mustang and Dodge Challenger; but what is even worse is the fact that it appears if General Motors CEO Mary Barra just doesn’t really care or she would have given Chevrolet the green light to build a car with higher performance.
I firmly believe that if GM ran Camaro ads of the same sort that Dodge does with the Challenger, they would sell a lot more Camaros. Those Challenger (and some Charger) ads are “in your face” about the performance capabilities. If Chevy did that, AND pointed out the superior performance of the Camaro compared apples:apples with Mustang and Challenger, people would buy them. As it stands currently, the sixth generation Camaro is like some kind of secret. Nobody apart from us enthusiasts knows it was all new in 2016, nor are they aware of its performance. Even the V6 is fast and gets decent MPG.
Add a few more horses, fix the visibility issues and you will see sales go up . Or you can just not listen to people and watch sales decline. Some times it’s just common sense.😒
@Paul
“Common sense”?
Either of your suggestions would cost many millions $$$. Especially your “fix the visibility” thing. That means some very expensive alterations to the body itself.
Would it sell more Camaros? MAYBE. But not enough to actually recoup the money spent.
Advertising too has similar arguments against it. A decent campaign would cost millions. Creative, production, buying space and time. And this does NOT guarantee increased sales.
The fact is cars like the Camaro, and its competitors, are things of the past.
Just advertise it with the rest of the Chevy line up. Its simple. The last chevy commerical had all the available vehicles even the corvette but no camaro.
Visibilty is not a issue. Especially out back if you get the rearview camera. Yes its part of package but worth it.
Doesn’t need any more horses(it flys) and visibility is NOT an issue. I am 6’1″ 260lbs, I can see just fine. I test drove 2 Zl1’s, auto and manual. I am ordering one as soon as I can get a date from GM in Ct. How fast do we need to go on the street??? Zl1 only loses to hellcat redeye after 150mph, and it loses to shelby by 1/10th second in 1/4 mile. Rock on Camaro! And yes, NOT a youngster, 57!!
Gene,
You might see just fine; But my wife of 5′ has passed over getting Camaro twice now. And she wants a Camaro….it is just too hard for her shorter body to see over the door sill and over her left rear shoulder in traffic.
GM keeps ignoring the lack of visibility that is often mentioned by users and reviewers, the non useable rear seats and how the mustangs kick that ass when boost is applied.
Stock for stock the Camaro can hang… but the Mustang responds better to aftermarket mods so racers dont buy Camaros. Many women cannot see very well out of the Camaro…and that also hurts sales, a LOT.
GM does not advertise the car or its performance. Ford highlights the performance and the heritage of the mustang. GM ignores this both of those on the Camaro.
P.S. I bought my wife a 2019 Miata RF this past June. She is happy, elated with it. But she wanted a Camaro…..at first.
The numbers indicate that ALL the performance cars listed have declining numbers of sales, not just Camaro. This entire segment of the auto industry is dying; youngsters these days just don’t have any interest in such vehicles. Many don’t even feel the need for a drivers’ license, instead, doing all their ‘socializing’ on their phones rather than driving somewhere and seeing friends in-person. All of us old-line hot rodders/car enthusiasts just have to face the fact that society has changed, and along with it, hobby interests. The few newer Camaros, Mustangs, Corvettes, and Challengers I see on the road are being driven by older people, not youngsters.
As for the Camaro and it’s demise, it looks like GM (oh, wait—gm) with it’s total lack of advertising support for that carline, is just going to let it die on the vine. As always, money talks, and apparently, there isn’t any to be made by building/marketing pony cars any longer.
I hear your age. It was all lost when the front middle seat became a console because the cars have shrunk in size. My first car a 66 Dodge Coronet and then 73 Charger. My future wife had no problem sitting in the middle.
Hahaha I asked to use my dads car for that reason. One hand on the wheel and the other on the top of the seat around my girlfriends shoulders…good times.
IMO – After 2019 model year, GM went in the wrong direction regarding the front fascia grill. Not liking the curly mustache look. Not a fan of the suede interior. Straight line and track, it beats the other 2, excluding the Hellcat and GT 500. The ZL-1 can’t either. Challenger outsold on a softer interior seat and ride with more accessories and “hemi” advertising. As for Mustang, advertising using the 500 as the HP leader to sell the GT and ergonomics of the the dash. I want to buy a Camaro as I still have my 4th Gen SS. When i park it next to a new 5th or 6th Gen my SS looks like a baby. I sure would like to have the stock LT1 HP in my 4th size of car with that 10 speed or the Vettes DCT. Being a Camaro fan since early 70s and even today, I would like to see a smaller version and different front. Everything is is ok.
looks like NASCAR is not helping camaro sales. win on sunday sell on monday is working for mustang but camaro.
@motorman:
Did you see the aales chart? Mustang is declining too.
most all cars sales are down but the mustang is still outselling the camaro so something is wrong.
Nascar also had very little fans this year so, the advertising in person was pretty much non existant. Chinese virus is hurting every sector except IT. If the new administration does not screw up the economy sales for all brands will increase.
It doesn’t help that NASCAR is the second most boring form of racing, only beaten in that area by drag racing.
After the past few years shenanigans….NASCAR is dead to everyone i know. And we were all super fans not so long ago.
Get woke, go broke!
I think people that complain about reduced visibility don’t even look over their shoulder before changing lanes. Sure you can’t see out of the back but that’s why the rear cameras exist. Also, yes you can’t really see past the doors so you really can’t see if someone is in your blind spot. That’s why there are indicators in the side mirrors (standard on a 2SS and an option for a 1SS and LT1). That doesn’t mean you can’t see if someone is right next to you though.
Learn how to use your mirrors, no need for cameras. What did we do 20+ years ago. And FYI everyone is talking about front view visibility
You obviously are not a five foot tall woman. THEY, many of them do have visibility issues with the new Camaro body style.
Many here really are not keeping up with the market changes we are seeing.
Every car on this list is likely in the last gen as a small coupe or roadster. Wit higher and higher development cost selling many models at affordable prices below 100,000 units is increasingly more and more difficult.
Adding more power will fix nothing. More marketing is not going to fix what is wrong. New styling would give a bump but it would be short lived. Blind spots were never a complaint in Amy of these cars for 50 years and it used to be even worse. Ever drive a fast back stand from 72?
The market has changed, the cost of development it at all time highs, there are no RWD economy cars to base these models on. Kids today either don’t care or just can’t afford the car or insurance.
I am on the front line of this deal. I grew up loving cars. I have made my living in the performance racing industry for over 25 years. I have a son that is at the age where I was car crazy, but yet he and his friends would rather have a PS5 over a new car.
These are real issues and they are what will prevent automakers spending a billion dollars on a car line that will not make the investment back for years. Sadly that money could go into a CUV and show return on investment in the first year.
Performance will survive but in other ways and at higher prices. Trucks and lifestyle vehicles will be a fast growing segment and that is where I expect GM to go next.
I don’t post these things for fun but to get the attention of those who really are missing the changes going on.
Even at the races you see empty seats before COVID. Racing was in trouble before the virus and even more now. NHRA has trouble not only filling stands but Fields.
We should all be scared and worried as the government is working hard to bring more regulations that could hurt our cars and hobbies. They nearly killed grass roots racing 6 years ago and I expect they will try again.
It is sad we have cars today few could have dreamed of but today most don’t care about anymore. But that is the way it is and little is going to change that.
The only car that is safe is the Vette at this point as it is structured to be low volume. But if sales thank like they have in the past it to could be at risk.
The harsh truth is just making money is not enough. Maximizing profits is.
C8.R, you’re not wrong, but I don’t like agreeing with you.
In this case I wish I were wrong! I see this daily and just hope the market holds till I retire.
Some times reality sucks.
There was a time when people who led automobile companies did so because they had vision. They loved cars. They had pride. Now all we have are the Ivy league MBA weenies who are all about profit. None of them will make a car simply because they want to make something cool or exciting (Corvette being an exception) anymore.
Were I in charge I would continue to offer several cars, even if they only sold in small numbers.
It is not the people who changed but the world and how business is done.
GM had and most other American automakers had the luxury to have enough money to pay high dividends and still make some fun cars.
Today the market is super competitive, the development cost are obscenely high and there is a much smaller area for error anymore.
Many of today’s car companies will have to merge or partner to save cost just to survive. Who ever would think Ford and GM to work together on transmissions or Honda with EV products.
I know people at GM and most are like us car people deep down in their soul. But they also know they have to put the company first.
Mark and Mary really are car people but their job gets in the way.
Recall not long ago GM Performance was building some really cool cars but it did nothing to save them from bankruptcy.
Things just are not the same business wise, market wise or even customer wise.
When the Camaro came back it was stated it needed 100,000 in sales to be viable. That same number applies to the Dodge and Ford too. They are on borrowed time.
Performance died in the 70’s and I expect it to die again. But it could come back as we have seen before.
These are crazy times and while the cars are as good as they have ever been the market is just not there to support them anymore.
Who ever thought it would be near impossible to find a standard shift or even someone who could drive it? The market again moved on. They rather hold a cell phone vs a shifter sadly.
I’m going to say the same thing here that I’ve said on the Fordauthority.com website about the Ford Mondeo. Chevrolet should have never dropped the Malibu. What Chevrolet should do is put the Malibu on the Alpha-2 platform, give it the Camaro interior and a Camaro inspired exterior, have the Malibu RS with the 404hp 3.0L Twin Turbo , Malibu SS with the 465hp 3.6L Twin Turbo and Malibu GTSR W1 with the new 5.5L DOHC V8. make everything AWD with a proper longitudinal drivetrain, dual clutch Tremec Transmission. Another thing would be to call it the NOVA!!!! and have the RS, SS, and GTSR W1. From that point, do the Same thing with the Blazer. With this lineup, you don’t really need the Camaro
Please GM, give the Camaro one last chance. Ford and FCA need good competition so they’ll keep pushing product and the Camaro brand has a lot of equity in it. Having spent substantial time in the current generation Camaro, the Visability is an issue, but could be mitigated with a suite of camera’s guarding the rear and blind spot views which are pretty bad in the current car. A front camera as well could halp overcome the high cowl/long hood that reduces the front view as well. But the biggest problem with Camaro today is, it just not very usable. The trunk is more like a Post Office Box, along with a very small opening that further reduces utility. Perhaps a return to the hatchback would be a benefit? The rear seat is a joke, Mustang is almost as bad but better. Challenger is like a limo in comarison but is a larger car. Finally, ingress and egress seems more difficult than in the Ford or Dodge, perhaps it’s ride height, seat height or the low roof, or a combination of all three but it’s a challenge. Once underway, these faults fade as the Camaro is a fantastic driving and handling machine, but it loses in the showroom and only GM can fix that.
Design Market and build a car that people want and the public will buy it
They are boring CUV models
Waita minute, everyone forgot one important thing…the Vette!!. The Vette actually out sold the Camaro now it seems that once everyone has their C8 Camaro sales would pick up again or the Camaro sales are permanently lost to pickups.
They are in trucks. You buy a Vette and a Truck then get the wife a SUV.
I get the Camaro for less, an old truck and she can Uber……
I got a 2021 Z51 Corvette….after she could not see out of the Camaro, which is the same issue she had back in 2010 and again this past year i bought her a 2019 Miata hard top.
She nor I misses the Camaro. I own a 98 and 69 Camaro. I wanted a modern Camaro but they are not what they used to be as compared to the competition.
C8.R, you are dead-on , nobody cares, about performance cars anymore. even a lot of rich ,old classic car collectors see the hand writing on the wall, bailing on the hobby, the next four years will see it acceleration of it due to the political times we live in after the November elections ….
It’s a sad day to hear all the complaints about camaros but i think the most disapointing problem most owners have noticed but do not mention is a “steering issue called TRAMLINING ” and that is why i sold my 2019 ZL1 and bought myself a 2020 challenger shaker scat pack 392 and have no negative issues with this car at all! long live MOPAR…..To bad GM is killing the ever so cool camaro!
So many here just don’t get it. It’s not about the Mustang or the Challenger being ‘faster,’ or whether or not you have visibility issues, or even the price of performance cars that is responsible for their declining sales. It’s about the changing automobile market; the ‘performance’ segment of that market is dying. I’m not happy about it, but that’s just the way it is.
Sure; the ‘performance’ market from Detroit died before, back in the early/mid ’70s (EPA smog regs/increased gas prices coupled with decreased availability/insurance surcharges on muscle cars) , and then returned again in the mid-’80s with the advent of computer-controlled FI and it’s resultant low emissions, better mileage, and improved preformance. Young buyers were still in the loop at that time, and bought 3rd-gen Camaro Z28s and 5.0 Mustangs as fast as Detroit could build them.
It’s just different now; ask any teen about cars—especially ‘performance’ cars—these days, and in return, you’re likely to get a blank stare. For the most part, they just don’t care.
Tom I agree many make this a personal thing and not base what is going on with true market conditions.
As for performance. Never write it off. Many younger people today are very tech based and I can see EV performance being of interest to them. It may take some time as this segment is still in the establishment stage.
The one wild cars with EV is once the a battery cost is reduced it will e profitable to make some vehicle that are just not profitable today. Also it could make limited volume performance affordable as swapping batteries and motors will be easy and common for making short run models.
But I do know we are in the twilight years of ICE performance. It will remain a small cult if followers like it was years ago.
Even the Second, Third gen was off limits to young buyers. I wanted a TA but the insurance in 85 was $1600 a year. That was with a good driving record. But we had an out as I could buy a 64 GTO for $3000 with 4 speed and tri power with low miles. Insurances was not an issue as we only held liability.
i could not sell my 66 450 hp corvette in 67 to get a 67 vette because the monthly insurance payments were more than the car payment to people who wanted to buy it. i finally sold it and bought a 68 Z/28 to beat the high insurance costs. i had no trouble sell the 68 Z/29 to get a 69 Z/28
I had no trouble selling my 66 SS Chevelle with an L88 inside when I was drafted in 1968. It was gone when the first guy came to see it.
I know my earlier post spoke of old muscle cars, but todays market is not about performance cars, forget ads,better sight lines, chevy could lower the price to $20,000 and still have a one time bump in sales due to old-timers like me rushing to buy but ask anyone under 40 if any of these cars are on their radar and you would a big fat no…
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