General Motors is making moves to blitz the electric vehicle segment with 30 new EVs planned to arrive by 2025, two-thirds of which will be available in North America, as well as billions in EV tech investments. Some critics have questioned whether or not GM’s focus on EVs corresponds with buyer demand, but now, one study reports that 71 percent of U.S. drivers are considering purchase of a new electric vehicle.
In a new study, Consumer Reports indicates that public interest of EVs is rapidly growing. In addition to 71 percent of study respondents indicating interest in purchase of a new EV sometime in the future, a third of those participating in the study indicated interest in an EV as their next vehicle purchase.
The new Consumer Reports study was conducted this past summer, with buyer responses elicited over the phone and over the Internet. The study is based on survey responses from 3,392 licensed drivers across the U.S., and was conducted in both English and Spanish.
In addition to gauging public interest in purchase of a new electric vehicle, the study also looked at public perception with regard to barriers to EV ownership. Chief among the findings were concerns over vehicle range and the availability of charging stations, with half of the drivers surveyed indicating that they would like an EV with more than 300 miles of range. Interestingly, 71 percent of drivers surveyed also said that the majority of EV charging would be done at home if they owned an electric vehicle, while survey responders living in an apartment would be more inclined to charge at a public fast charge station.
The study also indicated that younger drivers were more likely to pick an electric vehicle as their next vehicle purchase. However, Consumer Reports points out that interest in EVs is growing across multiple groups.
“These results show that there is robust consumer interest in electric vehicles, but consumers need automakers to deliver more compelling choices at competitive prices,” said Consumer Reports senior sustainability policy analyst, Chris Harto.
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This is interesting. To read the comments around here over the last year or so you’d think no automaker outside of Tesla had a snowballs chance of selling an electric.
As I’ve said before, a new industry of building charging eqipment for Apartments and Condominiums will be rising soon.
@Megeebee
Exactly right. They do it in China and in Europe already.
I believe most people are no longer in fear of EV models.
Those who speak out are often just diehards enthusiast or people that are not keeping up with what is going on.
I am a die heart ICE fan but I get where this is going and understand many new EV buyers are out there once prices begins to decline on models people can easily live with.
Also the ICE models are not going to vanish even from the new car market right away as EV is still not for everyone.
Right now most could easily live with an EV if they were cheaper, in more versatile models and just charged a little faster. These models are the next step we will see soon from GM.
This has moved much faster than I had expected and the next ten years will still will only speed up the changes.
I myself could live with a EV if it just charged faster and was cheaper in a model I liked. I was never a Tesla or out fan but things like a Hummer could interest me at a lower price.
Except for my odd road trip charging is not an issue. I even wired my garage for 220 in anticipation for the future at some point the need came. Also that is what the welder takes too.
If the future was just small odd cars no I would not be interested but the Hummer and Cadillac show where this is going and it looks much better than the past efforts.
C8.R: Your comment is spot on. It’s funny how things can change. Just six months ago when I went from my 2018 Buick Encore to the 2020 Spark, I would have considered an electric again. However, I was still living in an apartment with tight parking and no way to charge. Nearly two months ago I finally found a home that worked for myself and my two kids and put in an offer. Long story short, I’m now living in my new home. I say this because 6 months ago I didn’t feel comfortable getting an EV, but now I’m actually looking at getting a new Bolt or maybe even going with a 2016-2018 Volt. The change? I have a charge plug on my house next to where I park the cars. My commute is now 14 miles one way instead of 2 miles one way. I could now take advantage of the car-pool lane with an EV that I can’t do with my Spark or Lucerne (when I don’t have the kids).
I consider myself a motor-head and still (and always will) love ICE vehicles. But reality can and does change. In under six months I’ve gone from where an EV would have been a waste of money for me to where an EV now makes total sense for me. Like I said, I could now be totally gas free on my commute, charge at home and take advantage of a car-pool lane to speed up that commute. Win win for me.
Dan Berning DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 9:36 AM
C8.R: Your comment is spot on. It’s funny how things can change. Just six months ago when I went from my 2018 Buick Encore to the 2020 Spark, I would have considered an electric again. However, I was still living in an apartment with tight parking and no way to charge. Nearly two months ago I finally found a home that worked for myself and my two kids and put in an offer. Long story short, I’m now living in my new home. I say this because 6 months ago I didn’t feel comfortable getting an EV, but now I’m actually looking at getting a new Bolt or maybe even going with a 2016-2018 Volt. The change? I have a charge plug on my house next to where I park the cars. My commute is now 14 miles one way instead of 2 miles one way. I could now take advantage of the car-pool lane with an EV that I can’t do with my Spark or Lucerne (when I don’t have the kids).
I consider myself a motor-head and still (and always will) love ICE vehicles. But reality can and does change. In under six months I’ve gone from where an EV would have been a waste of money for me to where an EV now makes total sense for me. Like I said, I could now be totally gas free on my commute, charge at home and take advantage of a car-pool lane to speed up that commute. Win win for me.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:23 AM
And to think, you were telling me how this was going to go, just one short year ago.
Now Tesla in on the S&P and you are going to buy an EV,
I am curious, what changed ?
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:24 AM
Ill tell you guys what changed,
GM IS DOING IT SO NOW ALL OF THE SUDDEN IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO !
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:25 AM
You know that old saying.
If they jumped off a cliff would you ?
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:26 AM
This is where that saying comes from, people like you !
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:27 AM
Think outside the box a little.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:27 AM
Don’t believe everything you here !
If you are only listening to GM !!
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:28 AM
Get out of your comfort zone, talk to some new people.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:29 AM
You might find out what’s going on in the real world.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:31 AM
And I mean NONE of this in an angry, mean, derogatory manner.
Have a good day gentlemen !!!!!!
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Dan Berning DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:54 AM
Look lifelongGMowner, how about you call it a day on stalking me? To be honest, you make it way too easy and you bring almost everything on yourself. I’m just tired of your rants, diatribe, moaning and the inability to comprehend what you read or apply what you think you do understand. Most of the time you are saying things that make zero sense or that don’t even apply to me and I’m sure you are doing this to others on here as well. So if you really wish for this to continue, fine. I’m ok with making you look stupid. But I’d rather not.
To set the record straight: I have not been one saying this (EV’s?) will not work. Just one more time where you read something from someone on here and now attempt to apply it to me? In fact, I’ve owned an EV already (2015) and I loved it. I’ve considered getting another one, but living in an apartment at the time made it impossible to charge while at home. So please move along and take a comprehension class.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:16 AM
So here we go again Dan Berning,
making me look stupid is degrading, A personal insult.
I am not OK with you making me look stupid or anyone else any where else in the world.
But here it goes, just for you.
And like everything else in the world this to will fix itself and it will not be because of you.
Ready ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:17 AM
And then I could say open your eyes to the world Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:18 AM
And then you could call me stupid Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:18 AM
Then I could say open your eyes Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:19 AM
And then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:20 AM
Then I could say open your eyes, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:21 AM
Then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:22 AM
Then I could say get out in the world, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:02 PM
That’s 86 E-Mails
Enough yet Dan Berning,
Or like on home alone,
Are you thirsty for more !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:03 PM
Just think if Dan Berning found out I was a 6 year old kid ?
That would be funny !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:05 PM
No, then Dan Berning would just start blaming my parents that they did not discipline me enough.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:23 AM
Then you could say you want to make me look stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:24 AM
Then I could say get out in the real world , Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:25 AM
Then you could say you want me to look stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:25 AM
Then I could say , get out in the real world Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:26 AM
Then you could say, you want to make me look stupid, Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:28 AM
I am sorry, Dan Berning, you had to ruin it for everyone, by wanting to make me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:29 AM
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:30 AM
Just because Dan Berning can not quit degrading human on a website.
The one kid in the class that ruins it for everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:31 AM
How many personal attacks does one person have to read from you ?
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:32 AM
All of this time waisted in production because !
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:33 AM
Then I could say, EV’s will work you watch !
Then you could call me stupid, that’s always a fun thing to do !
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:35 AM
Then I could say, think outside of the box Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:36 AM
Then you could call me stupid, again, Dan berning !
Fun, Fun, Fun is had by all, about right now, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:37 AM
Then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:39 AM
Then I could say something like the oil companies have been raping the American public for over 100 years now with oil from all over the planet !
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:40 AM
Then you could say I am stupid, that is a stupid.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:42 AM
Then GM could say the oil companies have been raping the USA for years now.
And Dan Berning would say WOW GM is right, look at that the oil companies HAVE been raping the USA !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:43 AM
Then Dan Berning could say, you are crazy you should get professional help !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:44 AM
Then I could say, I love you man, Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:45 AM
Anyone , what was this post about again ?
O that’s right !
Dan Berning wants to make me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:47 AM
Until you Dan Berning, and others here who ALWAYS feel the need to make others look stupid, call them crazy, I would never go there.
We are talking GM vehicles !
Not what I think your d1ck size is
GM Vehicles !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:49 AM
Please I beg of you,
People on the intranet, quit trying to degrade everyone who does not agree with you !!
And FOR SURE when in less than 6 months you think there ideas are brilliant !!!!
Dan Berning, I am speaking to you and others here !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:51 AM
Should we keep going ?
I am asking you.
Dan Berning
Say the word.
Like in the movie Elf,
Call me an Elf one more time !!!
Ha HA
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Dan Berning DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:56 AM
I don’t have to. You do that job quite well. Don’t think so? We can let the other readers decide. I could care less. Bye, bye.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:53 AM
Maybe I should come on this site all day for the rest of my life and do nothing other than this every time Dan Berning calls me a stupid loser ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:54 AM
No I bet he would just change his name here and go again,
Right Dan Berning, and others ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:55 AM
Yet its so hard for them not to belittle other people who do not see it EXACTLY the way they see it !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:56 AM
And then you would know its the same old Dan Berning making me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:57 AM
And I would be commenting on a GM vehicle !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:57 AM
And Dan Berning would be trying to make me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:58 AM
Then you could say something like, I don’t have to make you look stupid, your doing it yourself !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:01 PM
What were we talking about here again,
O yeah,
Dan Berning wanted me to quit commenting in a novel so you kind people did not get an E-Mail every 5 seconds like when he does the 2 word comment !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:06 PM
I wonder if Dan Berning is wrong in the forest with no one to here him, is he still rong ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:07 PM
O crap, I think it is hear him and wrong !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:09 PM
Look at all of those posts Alex !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:09 PM
People are really talking now !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18
Dan Berning DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 9:36 AM #1
C8.R: Your comment is spot on. It’s funny how things can change. Just six months ago when I went from my 2018 Buick Encore to the 2020 Spark, I would have considered an electric again. However, I was still living in an apartment with tight parking and no way to charge. Nearly two months ago I finally found a home that worked for myself and my two kids and put in an offer. Long story short, I’m now living in my new home. I say this because 6 months ago I didn’t feel comfortable getting an EV, but now I’m actually looking at getting a new Bolt or maybe even going with a 2016-2018 Volt. The change? I have a charge plug on my house next to where I park the cars. My commute is now 14 miles one way instead of 2 miles one way. I could now take advantage of the car-pool lane with an EV that I can’t do with my Spark or Lucerne (when I don’t have the kids).
I consider myself a motor-head and still (and always will) love ICE vehicles. But reality can and does change. In under six months I’ve gone from where an EV would have been a waste of money for me to where an EV now makes total sense for me. Like I said, I could now be totally gas free on my commute, charge at home and take advantage of a car-pool lane to speed up that commute. Win win for me.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:23 AM
And to think, you were telling me how this was going to go, just one short year ago.
Now Tesla in on the S&P and you are going to buy an EV,
I am curious, what changed ?
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:24 AM
Ill tell you guys what changed,
GM IS DOING IT SO NOW ALL OF THE SUDDEN IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO !
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:25 AM
You know that old saying.
If they jumped off a cliff would you ?
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:26 AM
This is where that saying comes from, people like you !
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:27 AM
Think outside the box a little.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:27 AM
Don’t believe everything you here !
If you are only listening to GM !!
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:28 AM
Get out of your comfort zone, talk to some new people.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:29 AM
You might find out what’s going on in the real world.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:31 AM
And I mean NONE of this in an angry, mean, derogatory manner.
Have a good day gentlemen !!!!!!
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Dan Berning DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:54 AM
Look lifelongGMowner, how about you call it a day on stalking me? To be honest, you make it way too easy and you bring almost everything on yourself. I’m just tired of your rants, diatribe, moaning and the inability to comprehend what you read or apply what you think you do understand. Most of the time you are saying things that make zero sense or that don’t even apply to me and I’m sure you are doing this to others on here as well. So if you really wish for this to continue, fine. I’m ok with making you look stupid. But I’d rather not.
To set the record straight: I have not been one saying this (EV’s?) will not work. Just one more time where you read something from someone on here and now attempt to apply it to me? In fact, I’ve owned an EV already (2015) and I loved it. I’ve considered getting another one, but living in an apartment at the time made it impossible to charge while at home. So please move along and take a comprehension class.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:16 AM
So here we go again Dan Berning,
making me look stupid is degrading, A personal insult.
I am not OK with you making me look stupid or anyone else any where else in the world.
But here it goes, just for you.
And like everything else in the world this to will fix itself and it will not be because of you.
Ready ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:17 AM
And then I could say open your eyes to the world Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:18 AM
And then you could call me stupid Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:18 AM
Then I could say open your eyes Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:19 AM
And then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:20 AM
Then I could say open your eyes, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:21 AM
Then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:22 AM
Then I could say get out in the world, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:02 PM
That’s 86 E-Mails
Enough yet Dan Berning,
Or like on home alone,
Are you thirsty for more !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:03 PM
Just think if Dan Berning found out I was a 6 year old kid ?
That would be funny !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:05 PM
No, then Dan Berning would just start blaming my parents that they did not discipline me enough.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:23 AM
Then you could say you want to make me look stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:24 AM
Then I could say get out in the real world , Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:25 AM
Then you could say you want me to look stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:25 AM
Then I could say , get out in the real world Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:26 AM
Then you could say, you want to make me look stupid, Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:28 AM
I am sorry, Dan Berning, you had to ruin it for everyone, by wanting to make me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:29 AM
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:30 AM
Just because Dan Berning can not quit degrading human on a website.
The one kid in the class that ruins it for everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:31 AM
How many personal attacks does one person have to read from you ?
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:32 AM
All of this time waisted in production because !
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:33 AM
Then I could say, EV’s will work you watch !
Then you could call me stupid, that’s always a fun thing to do !
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:35 AM
Then I could say, think outside of the box Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:36 AM
Then you could call me stupid, again, Dan berning !
Fun, Fun, Fun is had by all, about right now, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:37 AM
Then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:39 AM
Then I could say something like the oil companies have been raping the American public for over 100 years now with oil from all over the planet !
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:40 AM
Then you could say I am stupid, that is a stupid.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:42 AM
Then GM could say the oil companies have been raping the USA for years now.
And Dan Berning would say WOW GM is right, look at that the oil companies HAVE been raping the USA !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:43 AM
Then Dan Berning could say, you are crazy you should get professional help !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:44 AM
Then I could say, I love you man, Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:45 AM
Anyone , what was this post about again ?
O that’s right !
Dan Berning wants to make me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:47 AM
Until you Dan Berning, and others here who ALWAYS feel the need to make others look stupid, call them crazy, I would never go there.
We are talking GM vehicles !
Not what I think your d1ck size is
GM Vehicles !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:49 AM
Please I beg of you,
People on the intranet, quit trying to degrade everyone who does not agree with you !!
And FOR SURE when in less than 6 months you think there ideas are brilliant !!!!
Dan Berning, I am speaking to you and others here !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:51 AM
Should we keep going ?
I am asking you.
Dan Berning
Say the word.
Like in the movie Elf,
Call me an Elf one more time !!!
Ha HA
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Dan Berning DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:56 AM
I don’t have to. You do that job quite well. Don’t think so? We can let the other readers decide. I could care less. Bye, bye.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:53 AM
Maybe I should come on this site all day for the rest of my life and do nothing other than this every time Dan Berning calls me a stupid loser ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:54 AM
No I bet he would just change his name here and go again,
Right Dan Berning, and others ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:55 AM
Yet its so hard for them not to belittle other people who do not see it EXACTLY the way they see it !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:56 AM
And then you would know its the same old Dan Berning making me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:57 AM
And I would be commenting on a GM vehicle !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:57 AM
And Dan Berning would be trying to make me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:58 AM
Then you could say something like, I don’t have to make you look stupid, your doing it yourself !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:01 PM
What were we talking about here again,
O yeah,
Dan Berning wanted me to quit commenting in a novel so you kind people did not get an E-Mail every 5 seconds like when he does the 2 word comment !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:06 PM
I wonder if Dan Berning is wrong in the forest with no one to here him, is he still rong ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:07 PM
O crap, I think it is hear him and wrong !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:09 PM
Look at all of those posts Alex !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:09 PM
People are really talking now !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18
Dan Berning DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 9:36 AM
C8.R: Your comment is spot on. It’s funny how things can change. Just six months ago when I went from my 2018 Buick Encore to the 2020 Spark, I would have considered an electric again. However, I was still living in an apartment with tight parking and no way to charge. Nearly two months ago I finally found a home that worked for myself and my two kids and put in an offer. Long story short, I’m now living in my new home. I say this because 6 months ago I didn’t feel comfortable getting an EV, but now I’m actually looking at getting a new Bolt or maybe even going with a 2016-2018 Volt. The change? I have a charge plug on my house next to where I park the cars. My commute is now 14 miles one way instead of 2 miles one way. I could now take advantage of the car-pool lane with an EV that I can’t do with my Spark or Lucerne (when I don’t have the kids).
I consider myself a motor-head and still (and always will) love ICE vehicles. But reality can and does change. In under six months I’ve gone from where an EV would have been a waste of money for me to where an EV now makes total sense for me. Like I said, I could now be totally gas free on my commute, charge at home and take advantage of a car-pool lane to speed up that commute. Win win for me.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:23 AM
And to think, you were telling me how this was going to go, just one short year ago.
Now Tesla in on the S&P and you are going to buy an EV,
I am curious, what changed ?
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:24 AM
Ill tell you guys what changed,
GM IS DOING IT SO NOW ALL OF THE SUDDEN IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO !
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:25 AM
You know that old saying.
If they jumped off a cliff would you ?
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:26 AM
This is where that saying comes from, people like you !
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:27 AM
Think outside the box a little.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:27 AM
Don’t believe everything you here !
If you are only listening to GM !!
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:28 AM
Get out of your comfort zone, talk to some new people.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:29 AM
You might find out what’s going on in the real world.
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lifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:31 AM
And I mean NONE of this in an angry, mean, derogatory manner.
Have a good day gentlemen !!!!!!
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Dan Berning DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 10:54 AM
Look lifelongGMowner, how about you call it a day on stalking me? To be honest, you make it way too easy and you bring almost everything on yourself. I’m just tired of your rants, diatribe, moaning and the inability to comprehend what you read or apply what you think you do understand. Most of the time you are saying things that make zero sense or that don’t even apply to me and I’m sure you are doing this to others on here as well. So if you really wish for this to continue, fine. I’m ok with making you look stupid. But I’d rather not.
To set the record straight: I have not been one saying this (EV’s?) will not work. Just one more time where you read something from someone on here and now attempt to apply it to me? In fact, I’ve owned an EV already (2015) and I loved it. I’ve considered getting another one, but living in an apartment at the time made it impossible to charge while at home. So please move along and take a comprehension class.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:16 AM
So here we go again Dan Berning,
making me look stupid is degrading, A personal insult.
I am not OK with you making me look stupid or anyone else any where else in the world.
But here it goes, just for you.
And like everything else in the world this to will fix itself and it will not be because of you.
Ready ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:17 AM
And then I could say open your eyes to the world Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:18 AM
And then you could call me stupid Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:18 AM
Then I could say open your eyes Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:19 AM
And then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:20 AM
Then I could say open your eyes, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:21 AM
Then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:22 AM
Then I could say get out in the world, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:02 PM
That’s 86 E-Mails
Enough yet Dan Berning,
Or like on home alone,
Are you thirsty for more !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:03 PM
Just think if Dan Berning found out I was a 6 year old kid ?
That would be funny !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:05 PM
No, then Dan Berning would just start blaming my parents that they did not discipline me enough.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:23 AM
Then you could say you want to make me look stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:24 AM
Then I could say get out in the real world , Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:25 AM
Then you could say you want me to look stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:25 AM
Then I could say , get out in the real world Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:26 AM
Then you could say, you want to make me look stupid, Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:28 AM
I am sorry, Dan Berning, you had to ruin it for everyone, by wanting to make me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:29 AM
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:30 AM
Just because Dan Berning can not quit degrading human on a website.
The one kid in the class that ruins it for everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:31 AM
How many personal attacks does one person have to read from you ?
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:32 AM
All of this time waisted in production because !
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:33 AM
Then I could say, EV’s will work you watch !
Then you could call me stupid, that’s always a fun thing to do !
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:35 AM
Then I could say, think outside of the box Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:36 AM
Then you could call me stupid, again, Dan berning !
Fun, Fun, Fun is had by all, about right now, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:37 AM
Then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:39 AM
Then I could say something like the oil companies have been raping the American public for over 100 years now with oil from all over the planet !
Dan Berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:40 AM
Then you could say I am stupid, that is a stupid.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:42 AM
Then GM could say the oil companies have been raping the USA for years now.
And Dan Berning would say WOW GM is right, look at that the oil companies HAVE been raping the USA !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:43 AM
Then Dan Berning could say, you are crazy you should get professional help !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:44 AM
Then I could say, I love you man, Dan berning !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:45 AM
Anyone , what was this post about again ?
O that’s right !
Dan Berning wants to make me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:47 AM
Until you Dan Berning, and others here who ALWAYS feel the need to make others look stupid, call them crazy, I would never go there.
We are talking GM vehicles !
Not what I think your d1ck size is
GM Vehicles !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:49 AM
Please I beg of you,
People on the intranet, quit trying to degrade everyone who does not agree with you !!
And FOR SURE when in less than 6 months you think there ideas are brilliant !!!!
Dan Berning, I am speaking to you and others here !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:51 AM
Should we keep going ?
I am asking you.
Dan Berning
Say the word.
Like in the movie Elf,
Call me an Elf one more time !!!
Ha HA
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Dan Berning DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:56 AM
I don’t have to. You do that job quite well. Don’t think so? We can let the other readers decide. I could care less. Bye, bye.
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:53 AM
Maybe I should come on this site all day for the rest of my life and do nothing other than this every time Dan Berning calls me a stupid loser ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:54 AM
No I bet he would just change his name here and go again,
Right Dan Berning, and others ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:55 AM
Yet its so hard for them not to belittle other people who do not see it EXACTLY the way they see it !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:56 AM
And then you would know its the same old Dan Berning making me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:57 AM
And I would be commenting on a GM vehicle !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:57 AM
And Dan Berning would be trying to make me look stupid !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 11:58 AM
Then you could say something like, I don’t have to make you look stupid, your doing it yourself !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:01 PM
What were we talking about here again,
O yeah,
Dan Berning wanted me to quit commenting in a novel so you kind people did not get an E-Mail every 5 seconds like when he does the 2 word comment !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:06 PM
I wonder if Dan Berning is wrong in the forest with no one to here him, is he still rong ?
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:07 PM
O crap, I think it is hear him and wrong !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:09 PM
Look at all of those posts Alex !
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LifelongGMowner DECEMBER 18, 2020 AT 12:09 PM
People are really talking now !
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And to think, you were telling me how this was going to go, just one short year ago.
Now Tesla in on the S&P and you are going to buy an EV,
I am curious, what changed ?
Ill tell you guys what changed,
GM IS DOING IT SO NOW ALL OF THE SUDDEN IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO !
You know that old saying.
If they jumped off a cliff would you ?
This is where that saying comes from, people like you !
Think outside the box a little.
Don’t believe everything you here !
If you are only listening to GM !!
Get out of your comfort zone, talk to some new people.
You might find out what’s going on in the real world.
And I mean NONE of this in an angry, mean, derogatory manner.
Have a good day gentlemen !!!!!!
Look lifelongGMowner, how about you call it a day on stalking me? To be honest, you make it way too easy and you bring almost everything on yourself. I’m just tired of your rants, diatribe, moaning and the inability to comprehend what you read or apply what you think you do understand. Most of the time you are saying things that make zero sense or that don’t even apply to me and I’m sure you are doing this to others on here as well. So if you really wish for this to continue, fine. I’m ok with making you look stupid. But I’d rather not.
To set the record straight: I have not been one saying this (EV’s?) will not work. Just one more time where you read something from someone on here and now attempt to apply it to me? In fact, I’ve owned an EV already (2015) and I loved it. I’ve considered getting another one, but living in an apartment at the time made it impossible to charge while at home. So please move along and take a comprehension class.
So here we go again Dan Berning,
making me look stupid is degrading, A personal insult.
I am not OK with you making me look stupid or anyone else any where else in the world.
But here it goes, just for you.
And like everything else in the world this to will fix itself and it will not be because of you.
Ready ?
And then I could say open your eyes to the world Dan berning !
And then you could call me stupid Dan Berning !
Then I could say open your eyes Dan Berning !
And then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
Then I could say open your eyes, Dan Berning !
Then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
Then I could say get out in the world, Dan Berning !
That’s 86 E-Mails
Enough yet Dan Berning,
Or like on home alone,
Are you thirsty for more !
Just think if Dan Berning found out I was a 6 year old kid ?
That would be funny !
No, then Dan Berning would just start blaming my parents that they did not discipline me enough.
Then you could say you want to make me look stupid, Dan Berning !
Then I could say get out in the real world , Dan Berning !
Then you could say you want me to look stupid, Dan Berning !
Then I could say , get out in the real world Dan Berning !
Then you could say, you want to make me look stupid, Dan berning !
I am sorry, Dan Berning, you had to ruin it for everyone, by wanting to make me look stupid !
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
Just because Dan Berning can not quit degrading human on a website.
The one kid in the class that ruins it for everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
How many personal attacks does one person have to read from you ?
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
All of this time waisted in production because !
The one kid in the class that ruins it foe everyone !
Signed,
Dan Berning !
Then I could say, EV’s will work you watch !
Then you could call me stupid, that’s always a fun thing to do !
Dan Berning !
Then I could say, think outside of the box Dan berning !
Then you could call me stupid, again, Dan berning !
Fun, Fun, Fun is had by all, about right now, Dan Berning !
Then you could call me stupid, Dan Berning !
Then I could say something like the oil companies have been raping the American public for over 100 years now with oil from all over the planet !
Dan Berning !
Then you could say I am stupid, that is a stupid.
Then GM could say the oil companies have been raping the USA for years now.
And Dan Berning would say WOW GM is right, look at that the oil companies HAVE been raping the USA !
Then Dan Berning could say, you are crazy you should get professional help !
Then I could say, I love you man, Dan berning !
Anyone , what was this post about again ?
O that’s right !
Dan Berning wants to make me look stupid !
Until you Dan Berning, and others here who ALWAYS feel the need to make others look stupid, call them crazy, I would never go there.
We are talking GM vehicles !
Not what I think your d1ck size is
GM Vehicles !
Please I beg of you,
People on the intranet, quit trying to degrade everyone who does not agree with you !!
And FOR SURE when in less than 6 months you think there ideas are brilliant !!!!
Dan Berning, I am speaking to you and others here !
Should we keep going ?
I am asking you.
Dan Berning
Say the word.
Like in the movie Elf,
Call me an Elf one more time !!!
Ha HA
I don’t have to. You do that job quite well. Don’t think so? We can let the other readers decide. I could care less. Bye, bye.
Maybe I should come on this site all day for the rest of my life and do nothing other than this every time Dan Berning calls me a stupid loser ?
No I bet he would just change his name here and go again,
Right Dan Berning, and others ?
Yet its so hard for them not to belittle other people who do not see it EXACTLY the way they see it !
And then you would know its the same old Dan Berning making me look stupid !
And I would be commenting on a GM vehicle !
And Dan Berning would be trying to make me look stupid !
Then you could say something like, I don’t have to make you look stupid, your doing it yourself !
What were we talking about here again,
O yeah,
Dan Berning wanted me to quit commenting in a novel so you kind people did not get an E-Mail every 5 seconds like when he does the 2 word comment !
I wonder if Dan Berning is wrong in the forest with no one to here him, is he still rong ?
O crap, I think it is hear him and wrong !
Look at all of those posts Alex !
People are really talking now !
O that’s right people like Dan Berning are just here to make other people here look stupid !
Get a freakin life and stop the stupid spam posts FFS….
Mike,
I am so, sorry, you get to enjoy this.
You have gotten in the middle of a learning experience here.
And to your post, I do not take offence.
Why don I take offence to your post, because there was no personal attack !
You just told me to get a life, and I respect that.
However if you were Dan Berning, you would have called me a mental case with an ugly wife, and deformed children.
And then he would have wen on, down to call my in-laws stupid because they let my ugly wife marry me.
And then he would have told me that there is institutions to help people like me.
And then he would have wen on and told me there were drugs to help me .
All because he disagreed with me on a GM vehicle I own, and he does not.
This is my life now, and nothing else !
Just this site, and just Dan Berning !
he has done this to me now for years here on this very site.
Other shave also, but are smart enough to quit.
And we can all have a great conversation about a GM vehicle that we all love !
Again Sorry.
And Dan we can quit whenever you say that is enough other wise:
hare we go again !
I call BS. Who did the study poll? No one asked me. My answer is no.
I’ve never been asked my opinion for a poll. That doesn’t mean they’re not true.
“Nobody asked me therefore It’s BS”. What buffoonery.
wouldnt you be the roughly 30% then?
The biggest downside to owning a EV vehicle is the limited mileage per charge and always trying to find charging stations when travelling longer distances.
@Ian:
300 miles (+/-) is what the GM EVs coming soon will do. I checked recently and it took me 2 weeks to drive that far in my normal ‘ round town routine. This means I would hook up and charge over night twice a month. I can’t go that long on a tank of gas!
You’re point about long distance travel is certainly a valid one. But I suggest you go to YouTube and search for vids by Teala owners on long trips. It’s easier than you think.
Not to mention the amount of time it will take to recharge an ev.
You don’t need to ‘try to find charging stations’. There are databases of all the stations installed, very easy. Plugshare app.
Does not shock me at all.
People won’t believe it until it happens but I have been saying that EV’s will eventually hit the S-Curve that every disruptive Tech always does and ICE will be almost completely dead. It will become vey niche.
Studies in the 21st century are going to show whatever the present narrative is. No surprise in the results. The sample size is very small. They could have surveyed those 3k+ people in silicon valley. Many variables here.
EVs are only gaining traction because of governments around the world are forcing the sheep to accept this “green” plan. So hardly anything to praise. Take away the government and let the free market decide then it would be a different discussion. In 2030+ we will see articles like EVs dominate accounting for 100% of new car sells! Cheers! Uneducated people will praise this of course.
So glad we have an educated person like dblezy here who will bravely forego praising this news.
It all depends. If your fond of EVs the news is good. If you like ICE vehicles the news is not so good. Everyone does not have to be on the same page.
300 miles is good and more will come.
The chargers will come as more cars are added. They will grow in unison.
The reality is ICE is planned till 2050 at this point so it will remain a mix of EV and ICE where ever ICE is not regulated out.
Many see all the EV products GM is bringing but fail to notice they are not killing cars to replace them with EV models. The market will determine the mix.
if CR had shown them a picture of a bolt and the $40K price tag, the results would’ve been very different.
i’d bet most of these people have no idea how much more an EV costs over an ICE vehicle.
@steve: or a Leaf, or a BMW I-3, or any Pruis…………………
Why must you only go after the Bolt? Outside the last gen Volt, nearly any/all hybrid or EV’s have been rather ugly IMO. That may just be a huge reason why they haven’t taken off better. The mainstream public doesn’t want ugly and would prefer a more normal look. So make a more standard looking EV that doesn’t shout “Look at me”, they will sell more.
well this is a gm website. but you are right, all ev’s are very expensive not just the bolt.
the short answer is at $40K, i expect more than a generic car. gm keeps telling us how much they’ve invested in EVs and this is the best they can do? and the bolt euv isn’t going to change anything except be a little bigger and more expensive.
steve: I was speaking about looks and price both. Recently I drove a 2 year old BMW I-3 back to the dealership as a lease return. Not a bad car, but not attractive and very difficult to understand how things work inside. Way too complicated. As for the GM investment, the Bolt is now nearly 5 years old and the investment in that car goes back to at least 2011-2013 range? That’s an eternity in the auto-bus. I think the investment you are speaking about is stuff on the way.
Dan Derning, I thought you were only an expert on the Cadillac line driving your Chevy Spark luxury.
Now your also an expert on the Hummer line also ?
My sister drove a Hummer H2 for a while.
But I bet you owned some Hummers also in your life, right ?
O that’s right you just drive all of these vehicles for 5 minuets from point A to point B, and never really own any of them.
Expert Dan Berning.
And for your prize, you personally get 4 years of this, just like you were so gracious to burden me with,
And I thank you.
Keep going forever on this site ?
i wouldn’t pay $40K+ for a leaf or an i3. but with tax incentives, the base ford mach e is $35K. that is worth a look.
steve: I would agree. That Mach E looks very nice. I also would not pay $40g or more for any of them. But nobody does. The Bolt, which I’ve been looking into getting one now, has an MSRP of $40,110.00 for a loaded LT to $44,000 for a loaded premier. However, the price for me to buy either of them is between $26,0000 and $29,900. So the real money is what you pay and under 30 grand for them is quite attractive. I think the Leaf is a nice car too and looks a little more normal than the first gen. But I still wish they would just make an EV look just like the regular cars and thankfully they are going that route. Audi is a good example of that.
EVs are a $20K cars with a $20K fuel tank (the battery)
Dan Derning, I thought you were only an expert on the Cadillac line driving your Chevy Spark luxury.
Now your also an expert on the Hummer line also ?
My sister drove a Hummer H2 for a while.
But I bet you owned some Hummers also in your life, right ?
O that’s right you just drive all of these vehicles for 5 minuets from point A to point B, and never really own any of them.
Expert Dan Berning.
And for your prize, you personally get 4 years of this, just like you were so gracious to burden me with,
And I thank you.
Keep going forever on this site ?
There is one very important word in this study, considering. That’s very broad. Hell, I’m considering marrying a super model and buying a Ferrari. The 1/3 number is more important, but doesn’t necessarily lead to sales.
There was a time not long ago that if you just said electric cars and you would have gotten no from 99.9% of the people. Only the odd neighbor engineer who really built stuff from ads in Popular Mechanics would have said yes.
People are now finding the new products acceptable. As time rolls on here they will be cheaper in a number of various models, charge faster and go farther.
But even then there will be places people will not have any choice which is wrong but someone will need to fill those needs. Someone will have to sell them vehicles and few are positioned to do that to much degree out side GM, VW and Tesla unless the other get started soon.
With GM the ICE trucks will still be paying the bills.
if GM wants to sell EVs just include a home charging system with the purchase so people don’t have to spend hours at a charging station. they just have to plug it home when the pull into their garage and it will be fully charged when they need it
The 2 Bolts in my driveway are proof that people believe in the future of electric vehicles.
I am a Custom home builder…we now put electric charging set ups in the garages of every home we build. I started doing it as a standard because of the amount of customers that where asking for it.
I alway ask my Customers how they like there electric car, the response is love the electric car for driving they would rather drive it over there gas cars…the ones that own the Teslas do not like the body styling and find the car ugly, however love the pick up and drivability.
I say the polling is screwed…..If you drive 3000 miles year maybe and have nothing else to do other than tootle around and have extra money to fork over for the electrical work at home to rig up charger, maybe, but whats happens when the blackouts come and no electricity…and the majority of people live in suburbs that at times will restrict electric use….Way to many obstacles for electric cars to take hold unless they come in around 15K price points and used as the grocery getter….Get real…
you install a generac for when the power goes off. i can see people buying a low priced ($15K ) EV to run around town and still have a ICE vehicle for road trips.
Those that are familiar with these cars know they charge quickly and can also charge on a regular outlet…..( you don’t need a higher amp charger ) it just make it charge quicker if you do.
I say in ten years you would be foolish if you did not have an electric car. The cars coming out now have longer ranges and in ten years the infrastructure will be better for electric then gas cars…..what I noticed is that all the new gas stations on the books are actually electric charging stations not gas stations!
Only time will tell since polls prove nothing other than your random group isn’t always random.
My money is on that they polled the EV department at GM….
Well first, let’s address the sample of people here. A total of nearly 3,400 is not what I expected and thought it would have been maybe 100,000 people or more. So I wouldn’t get to excited or upset with this small survey. With that said, I’ve already had one (2015 Chevy Spark that I loved) and I’m considering going back to one again very soon. Electric is not for everyone obviously, but it’s coming and it can’t be stopped.
i want to see a study of how much pollution come from all the extra use of the power plants used to charge all these EVs. wind and solar power generation create pollution someplace to build.
@motorman: There are studies out there if you Google it. Not sure how up-to-date they are, but you can find and read them.
A study done by Toyota (maybe 10-12 years ago now) gave a good picture of what you are asking. Toyota compared their own Prius hybrid vs. a 4Runner 4×4 V6 (I think that is what they compared). When you looked at the entire life cycle of each from the materials used to build them to the end of each life when the cars were crushed as junk, the Prius left a larger carbon footprint than the 4Runner. I dislike Toyota, but it was a good article. However, just like cars improve and change, the path to an EV is also changing and seems to be getting cleaner.
I believe I saw the same article.
The larger carbon footprint left by a “spent” Prius had almost everything to do with its battery. Nickle-hydride.
It was great that the article traced the origin of the raw materials having to be shipped almost literally all over the world before an actual battery was installed in a car. Mined in Canada, shipped to China, then shipped to Japan, then shipped to the US. Also I remember mention of the waste generated by what will eventually be millions of spent Prius (and other makers) batteries will be a disposal problem. So what the Prius does is simply transfer the CO2 generation from the owner of the vehicle to the manufacturing process.
Yes Megeebee. That is exactly the article. I’m hopeful the process and newer battery tech is changing that. And if they can do a million mile battery (isn’t Tesla talking about this?), then that would greatly change things too.
Dan Berning,
So you really don’t care if every time you type anything on this site that I reply ?
Well you said It !
Because once again, you should know I could care less what a person on the other end of a wire thinks of fake me, or real me, or you for that matter, that’s the world we live in today, anyone can make up anything online and nobody cares, no laws !
I’ll keep going , but just under your name, just like you have under mine !
Just to prove to others here how stupid I am !
I bet they will love it also !
Dan Berning,
So you really don’t care if every time you type anything on this site that I reply ?
Well you said It !
Because once again, you should know I could care less what a person on the other end of a wire thinks of fake me, or real me, or you for that matter, that’s the world we live in today, anyone can make up anything online and nobody cares, no laws !
I’ll keep going , but just under your name, just like you have under mine !
Just to prove to others here how stupid I am !
I bet they will love it also !
.
Dan Berning’
You are never going to buy one of these vehicles anyway, so why are you commenting here ?
Does that sound familiar ?
GO to a Chevy Spark site.
Does that sound familiar ?
Want me to quit yet ?
Or just keep right on proving how stupid I am ?
Dan Berning,
You mean you can read also,
Say it isn’t so, seriously , you can read ?
You can read a study !
A study by people, experts in the field ?
I thought you only believe GM studies !
O that’s right you only believe the studies done by the publishers you like !
Tell me Dan Berning,
When Consumer Reports comes out tomorrow and the consumers who have bought the new GM EVs, say they love them, will you love Consumer reports at that point also.
Or are they still the scum of the auto publishers and nothing they say is correct ?
Dan Berning,
You mean you can read also,
Say it isn’t so, seriously , you can read ?
You can read a study !
A study by people, experts in the field ?
I thought you only believe GM studies !
O that’s right you only believe the studies done by the publishers you like !
Tell me Dan Berning,
When Consumer Reports comes out tomorrow and the consumers who have bought the new GM EVs, say they love them, will you love Consumer reports at that point also.
Or are they still the scum of the auto publishers and nothing they say is correct ?
.
They must have polled Biden supporters who somehow managed to “obtain” a driver license.
Ok!…..I’m willing to take one of these new EV GM made Hummers and run it Alaska for the winter to test it out and give you a honest evaluation with no sugar coating….contact me and i’ll come get it…
They (almost) did it already at least once, with NKLA
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