2021 Ram TRX Breaks Cover With 702-HP Supercharged V8, Mean Looks
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The automotive industry has finally produced a worthy answer to the off-road-obsessed Ford F-150 Raptor, with Fiat Chrysler pulling the wraps off of its new 2021 Ram TRX today.
We’ll avoid wasting any time here and get right down to the facts. The 2021 Ram TRX is powered by a supercharged 6.2L HEMI V8 engine that is good for 702 horsepower and 650 pound-feet of torque. With standard four-wheel drive and an eight-speed automatic transmission, this mean-looking rig will hustle from 0 to 60 mph in just 4.5 seconds and complete the quarter-mile in 12.9 seconds at 108 mph.
Underneath, the Ram TRX gets an all-new independent front suspension with Bilstein Black Hawk e2 adaptive performance shocks, forged aluminum upper and lower control arms as well as other “upgraded components to provide more performance and improved endurance,” Ram says. In the rear, the truck gets a model-exclusive five-link coil suspension system with Bilstein active dampers and large 600-millimeter springs, which are the largest ever applied to a non-commercial production vehicle. Despite being set up for off-roading, Ram says the coil springs “are more than up to the task of handling a maximum payload of 1,310 pounds and towing capability of 8,100 pounds.” The superior packaging of this rear suspension/axle setup also allows for greater wheel travel without reducing the cargo area in the bed.
All Ram TRX models will also come equipped with a BorgWarner 48-13 full-time active transfer case, which has a low range of 2.64:1 for rock crawling. Similar to the Raptor, though, the Ram TRX has mainly been engineered with high-speed off-road runs in mind. Ram says it will “race to 100 mph with ease,” whilst off-road drivers will have the largest brakes in the segment to rely on when they want to bring things to a halt. The front and rear rotors both measure in at 15 inches, while dual-piston calipers sit out front with single pistons in the rear. The truck rides on 35-inch Goodyear Wrangler Territory All-Terrain tires and optional 18-inch beadlock-ready wheels.
Inside, the Ram TRX is tech-laden thanks to a huge 12-inch Uconnect 4C touchscreen sitting front-and-center, along with a 7-inch TFT cluster display. The touchscreen features ‘Performance Pages’ with real-time performance information (0-60 mph timer, g-force meter, engine output etc.) along with dedicated ‘Off-Road Pages’ that provide information on ride height, transfer case position as well as body pitch and roll. The ‘Off-Road Pages’ information can also be accessed via the 7-inch instrument cluster display. Bolstered front seats, a flat-bottom SRT steering wheel, a leather-wrapped shift knob and various SRT and TRX badges also adorn the cabin.
The 2021 Ram TRX will enter production at FCA’s Sterling Heights Assembly Plant (SHAP) in Michigan shortly. The truck is expected to arrive at Ram dealers before year’s end with prices starting at $71,690 USD.
As it stands, General Motors does not currently have a direct rival to either the Ford F-150 Raptor or Ram Rebel TRX, though the upcoming Silverado ZRX looks to change that. Not much is known about the Silverado ZRX at this time, though we do know GM is racing the current Silverado 1500 in the Best in the Desert series as part of the model variant’s ongoing development. Rumors also point to the Silverado ZRX receiving a supercharged 6.2L LT4 V8 engine.
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With a cotton soft marketing department that GM has, FCA has the edge over the future silverado from the beginning.
It will be very tough for GM to gain a cool factor again. They should first start with more SS trims for every vehicle that add power and not some cosmetics stuff. Then fire the entire marketing team.
FCA may have the edge now, but they won’t for long. Don’t be fooled here.
Don’t get me wrong, its a sweet truck for sure, and the more Hellcat we get in different vehicles, the better. But its not like GM has absolutely nothing to show for it. The Silverado ZRX is coming, and it could hit the TRX (and new Raptor) with a sizeable punch IF it gets the LT4. Anything less, and it’s a dud.
And from the other side of the spectrum, GM has the 1,000 hp Hummer EV SUT. It’ll out-muscle the TRX easily, and will just as easily get 20 times more media coverage. Ram keeps bragging about this being the “most powerful production pickup truck in the world”…yeah yeah, until next fall. Good luck getting a 1,000 hp Hellephant V8 into a production car with tightening emissions regs…not happening.
So GM can give them some problems with the ZRX, and they’ll be way out in front of FCA with the Hummer. I’m not worried whatsoever.
People or entities having the edge is not permeant thing. No one argues that. FCA has worked hard to get to where they are at now by being very competitive. Competition brings out the best products. I wish I could say the same for GM’s efforts overall as a company.
I give RAM credit for what they have done and the numbers do not lie. Don’t get me wrong I like GM and honestly root for all American companies to do well. As our automotive companies do not have the prestige in the world like they used to. With the exception of a few sports car name plates.
You speak of the hummer EV. Sure die hards will buy it but there is little to no demand for full EV’s in this country. Make a hybrid hummer with diesel V8 power then that would be a true winner right there.
You do sound a little salty in your post not picking on you. RAM can brag that the Rebel TRX is the most powerful production truck. You want to know why? It is actually going into production shortly an passed the necessary standards to be a passenger vehicle. Until GM actually releases the overpriced for what it is battery hummer then RAM holds the crown.
Until the ZRX actually comes out I won’t believe it. It may come out when Ford is working on the 5th generation Raptor with a i3 boosted to mars.
Lastly a production V8 with 1000 is possible with emission standards if FCA is willing to ditch the modern “hemi.”
dblezy,
FCA isn’t an American company and hasn’t been for a very long time.
When it merges with PSA, is will be French-Italian and registered in Ireland with a complex web of shell companies so it never pays any taxes like many Silicon Valley companies for the same reasons.
Not going to hold that against the engineers and line workers in the US who have gone to Hell and back since the Daimler days and have hung in there strong. Kudos to them for a great looking truck!
Yes I am aware that FCA is not an american. It is actually an multinational holding corporation. I mainly speak for the American Chrysler corporation. However FCA as a whole entity is very unique.
Currently FCA is registered in the Netherlands as its HQ. The PSA merger is still up in the air because I believe the EU(Berlin) believes it is a trust issue.
Not sure about your last point about the tax evasion as I have not researched that.
dblezy,
I gave Ram plenty of credit for getting to where they are now. They studied the market. They predicted future trends. They listened to their customer base. They benchmarked the competition. And this is all why I praised them for making a hell of a cool truck, assuming you read my comment. That’s the exact opposite of being salty.
Ram absolutely can brag about the TRX being the most powerful truck on earth, and I hope they continue to do so. Again, I never said otherwise, so I’m not sure why you’re implying that I did. And I also think that they should continue to do so until they no longer hold that title, which they won’t in about a year, when several trucks, most notably the Hummer, passes them.
What I see happening here is a total misconstruing of my comment on your part. Nothing you took issue with that wasn’t speculation on my end was factually inaccurate. On the other hand, you made a number of assumptions, like the idea that a hybrid diesel Hummer would be in demand (as if anyone would ever invest in that kind of powerplant setup, let alone for a Hummer). Also, that the Hummer will be overpriced for what it is. Etc.
Will the ZRX reach production? Who knows. Will the Hummer be a smash hit? Who knows. But what I said was, if GM plays their cards right, they can steal much of Ram’s thunder. You can love the TRX all you want, its an awesome machine, but don’t count GM out in the near future.
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The zrx will just have that damn dssv suspension with a 2 inch level and the same old 6.2 and think they did something to compete with the trx and raptor. I’m a GM fanboy but GM is slacking waay too much for me to have faith in them.
I am surprised that GM did not respond when Ford came out with the first generation raptor. They are working on the third generation as we speak. Back than Ram was not what it is today.
GM should put its LT5 to use in ZRX application.
LT4 has to be the BARE MINIMUM. No LT1 or LT2…we need a supercharger.
That interior is a bit of a mess. It’s more flashy than GM, for sure, but that center stack is way too convoluted. There’s buttons, knobs, rows of buttons and clusters of them all around a giant touch screen. That’ll be fun to navigate…not.
Above, G8 is correct. There’s potential for the Silverado while the Hummer is coming fast.
@Kyle
Apparently people think either
1.) The ZRX won’t be anywhere near as good as the TRX; OR
2.) The Hummer…what, won’t have 1,000 hp? Won’t get 20 times the coverage? Not really sure here.
Lots of downvotes for apparently not liking the truth, because nothing I said was false. Some was speculation, but I never said it was fact. Of course, it could just be GM pessimism…and GM’s history honestly makes that understandable.
As a die hard GM guy, I am certainly hoping that the ZRX delivers just like the ZR2 has done in the midsize segment. With this being said, the ZRX needs to pack a punch under the hood (something more than just the 6.2L). Sadly, because Barra and her crew are so focused on EV’s and more soccer-mom CUV’s, GM is late to the game in this very hot segment. Performance SUV’s and trucks have been red hot for the past 5+ years and instead, GM has simply chosen to produce ~12-15 mind-numbing and forgetful CUV’s.
Get with it! Your buyer’s market consists of more than 35-40 year old women that drive their children to and from practice.
I’m guessing they’re underestimating the amount of douche bros with insane amounts of disposable income.
So, because a portion of people have done well in school, have landed a good a job and love performance vehicles, they are “douche bros”? LOL!
I’m in my 30’s and own a Camaro SS (modified to the hilt) and also a C7 Grand Sport (bolt-on modified). Both stay in the garage and are sunny day, weekend cruisers with some track days in between.
It seems as if you’re upset and jealous because you’re stuck in a dead-end, low-paying job due to making poor personal choices. Typical. Hopefully, one day you can dispose of your anger, misery and hatred of others.
This is a douche truck. The guy was right. If a little is good more isn’t better.
The hummer sounds like a douche truck too if the reports of 22″ wheels with 35″ MT tires are right.
Everybody that drives a Raptor, ZR2, this new TRX or GM’s future ZRX is a douche? Wow, that is certainly painting with a broad brush. I do not own one of these, but I can surely say that there are many of these owners that would love to meet with you and prove you wrong.
The amount of jealousy and hatred on planet Earth is simply mind-boggling.
“You applied yourself and; therefore, have more than me…I HATE YOU!!!”. 🙁
You act as if all you’ve done is “hard work” to get where you are in life. How about you be grateful that you’ve gotten a few lucky breaks in life? That would serve you well.
Lucky breaks? LOL! You don’t know me. I’ve worked for everything that I have.
This is simply more anger and jealousy from you. I am truly in hopes that one day you can accept the poor choices that you have made and move on from this petty and childish nonsense that you spew from the safety of your couch. Best of luck.
Signing in and out just to like your own comments is not a good look. I suggest that you stop. Good day.
First of all everyone gets breaks no matter how successful they are from the richest people in the world to you an apparently super successful 30 year old with who knows how much debt because lets be honest many people who have those nice things that are running around in suburbia are carrying some solid debt. It is common place to have less than a few thousand in savings, 20k plus in credit card debt and payments on two nice new expensive vehicles and an overly large house they can barely afford. My buddy works at a bank and brought up how a recent second gen raptor purchaser traded in his first gen he was still paying on and upside down on and rolled it in to a nice new nearly $900 a month payment, he sees it all the time. Studies show over half the people in this country don’t have more than a few thousand in savings and many carry debt they aren’t prepared to cover if things go south. If you aren’t in that boat (which I doubt) good for you, I would much rather have a healthy savings, some nice things that are paid off that aren’t flashy and some investment properties and a reasonable house and land (which I do in my 30’s as well).
As far as the douche comment most people who buy these trucks buy them for the image, a very small percentage actually take them off road (which is more than the average 4wd owner but still only around 20% or so).Wrangler owners around around 35% or so from an interview with a Wrangler engineer from a few years ago which is more than other 4wd vehicles by a large amount. If you buy something that is so one sided and you don’t actually use it for its intended purpose, yes you are a douche especially spending the amount of money on one of these things that they cost now. It would be a much smarter choice to just buy a nice 2wd pickup (or 4wd if you live north of the mason dixon) than one of these one trick pony look at me behemoths that will never leave the pavement, that is a douche plain and simple, when you are more into your perceived image than what actually works best and makes sense for your family. Just like minivas, they work best but the image isn’t there so larger yet smaller interior full size suv it is with $800 payment that doesn’t work as well is the choice… What is even more funny is some of these will be pulling wake board boats loaded up with their family and it will be over the payload capacity because they didn’t do their research, but it looks cool and they read the brochure but not the actual capabilities…
Anyways, around here in Texas these trucks aren’t at all utilized and are mostly owned by image conscious dads that just want to have the cool look at me truck at the local starbucks while they add to their massive credit card bill they carry each month with every half decaf splash of milk double shot expresso latte light whip.
No debt. They were paid in full at the time of purchase. Thank you for thinking that I’m one of these imbeciles that do not know how to handle money. I have a mortgage, utilities and nothing else in the way of payments.
Not everyone was handed their life on a silver platter and not everyone gets $100 in their pocket and spends $150. Our society truly amazes me sometimes, in that someone cannot be successful without being handed everything or had some sort of “luck”. Studying more than everybody else does not take “luck”. Getting accepted to a solid university because of your hard work does take “luck”. Getting a good job because you busted it in college does not take “luck”. The best way to get ahead of the game is through hard work. I know for some folks, it is beyond belief, but it works. In the end, many people just don’t want to work hard or admit that they f*cked off in life and wasted opportunities that were there for the taking. Geesh.
I don’t have to prove anything to complete internet randoms. I love my life and am quite proud of it. Good day. Peace.
Infamous,
Sorry you have to deal with this sh*t. So much jealousy masquerading as morality and/or enlightenment online today. I never understood it personally, but maybe that’s because that wasn’t how I was raised.
I have always lived in a working class family. My dad is a small business owner. My mom is a certified physical therapist, but chose to stay home and raise us. I too have worked for everything I have, though it isn’t nearly as much as you or some others lol. I drive a $3,500 ’05 Cadillac Deville, which I love. I put myself through college. I’m currently in law school. And some day, I’d love to own a C8 Corvette, a Hummer EV, a CTS-V, or a Sierra Denali. And I will continue to work towards that as I always have.
In spite of this, I have absolutely no ill will for anyone who is “more successful” than I, those who have worked their whole lives, been successful, and enjoyed some nice things in life as a result. And I have no desire whatsoever to try and explain to them how no, they actually didn’t earn what they have.
Good for you on your life’s successes. I hope your family will appreciate what you have done to make their futures better. And if we ever cross paths, I’ll let you take out the Hummer if you toss me the keys to the SS for a quick spin 😉
Thank you for the kind words. It is nice to know that not everybody on the internet is a 14 year old troll.
Best of luck in law school, now go and get that degree! 😀
WOW Common Sense. Nice “holier than thou” speech. I love how smug people like yourself like to deem other people’s lifestyles that do not conform to your standards as “being a douche”. People like you are the problem in this country. Now go clean your room before mom gets home.
Ah look another effeminate male! The west if rife with them! You are not effeminate because you do not like cool trucks, you are effeminate because you are weak minded and talk like an emotional female. You like many people in the west like to take a crap on what MEN like. You are the type of person who agrees with silly statements like “he is buying a corvette because he is having a mid-life troubles.”
Plenty of douche Karens on the interstates with their CUVS and SUV’s who are policing the road impeding the flow of traffic.
People can buy what they want with their money and choose to do whatever they want with their time. Clearly you are wasting your time and should be focusing on what you consider a successful life to be. So don’t knock someone who wants a cool vehicle which brings them pleasure. Life is about experiences.
*GM’s buyer market consists of 16-40 year old women who want their CUV’s with 57 different shades of grey!
Salt in the wound. Those Chevrolet truck sales numbers are about to go right back down. All Ram needs to do now is make the 6.4 Hemi available in normal Ram trucks. Did I mention the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer? Sorry GM a storm is coming. And to all of you die hards out there, get a grip and see what I started to see a long time ago, GM is a has been ever since the Obama-Barra eras. I honestly can’t believe they are gonna kill the Camaro instead of making it better, what a bunch of losers. When I was in high school, all I wanted was a Camaro. My, how times have changed…
Terrible take. Does GM deserve a ton of criticism? [email protected]#$%ing-lutely. The amount of cost-cutting since Barra took over is ridiculous. And you are right on another thing, a storm may be coming…but it sure as hell isn’t coming from FCA.
The company as a whole is so far behind the industry curve, its laughable. Did you ever stop and wonder why Chrysler can’t go a decade without being sold, merged or going bankrupt? It’s because they’ve ALWAYS been behind the curve. The entire reason they merged with PSA is because of how woefully outdated and unprepared for the long-term they are. They have absolutely no electrification strategy. FCA is what you get when you turn the phrase “kick the can down the road” into a physical company. They think that if they toss a V8 at everything, it’ll be sustainable for them financially. Is it awesome? Hell yeah. But from a business perspective, its a terrible, fatal move.
FCA as a whole is being propped up by over-performing Ram sales, and the Jeep brand. And now, 2 things are apparent: one, Jeep is in huge trouble with the Bronco and Bronco Sport, among others, and Ram sales have peaked. They need to sell 700,000+ Ram trucks a year and 225,000 Wranglers just to keep their head above water. That ever stops…and they’re in a tailspin.
I’m not a big EV guy, but industry experts, financial gurus and tech engineers all say the same thing: GM is FAR better positioned than FCA, and it’s not even close.
Once again GM has no answer for the competition and once again RAM put the Rest of the 1500’s Interiors two Generations behind them, well three for GM unfortunately.
At this point, lets all just admit that they will not make a ZRX. I have been hearing about it for years and have yet to see any proof that it will actually happen. Instead there will be a battery operated hummer for $90k
Folks it may be boring but it is all about the money.
While Ram and Dodge rack up headlines they have for a number of years since the bail out for a sugar daddy that had money.
Sergio tried to force FCA on GM but they were not bitting and finally they have had to settle for PSA who is not all that much better off.
Yes this kind of product is exciting and makes headlines but today the volumes are low and the profits match the low volumes. Also they add to the CAFE hurt if they did sell in greater numbers.
I get it, it is disappointing that there are less fun cars today. If there was real volumes and profits in them we would see more of them.
To be honest this truck sounds cool but it will not do anything more than a 500 hp truck will do on the trails. It is just all media. The truck here is not going to put anymore power to the ground as tires and soil all have their limits.
GM financially is one of a very few companies that can go it alone into the future and if they do a partnership it is only to save money and not because they have to do a joint partnership just to afford it.
The development cost are changing the market. What used to go no longer works.
I do hope for a very compelling truck from GM as it would be fun but their future is not hinged on just a bunch of media.
Majority of buyers want a affordable payment on a vehicle that is safe and reliable. They want it to be able to handle a number of tasked anymore too. As long as it gets on the highway at a decent rate they are happy.
GM went broke before building many cool cars at the GM performance division. Great products but no real money.
GM still needs to address the lifestyle class like the Wrangler and Bronco. That is where the money and volume is today.
What I say is not what I want to see. I want cool cars and trucks but I also understand the business size too.
This type of vehicle can help GM especially at the showroom level. This type of truck brings people into the showroom and helps foot traffic which is very important to a manufacturer. The Raptor accounts for less than one percent of Ford truck sales but Ford knows its worth it to bring people into the dealership. GM flooded the market with too many specialty vehicles in the past and had bad timing. Like releasing a special edition Camaro, Firebird and Corvette at the same time. People complained about Ford constantly pushing back the GT500 but it was smart because Ford waited until the GT350 cooled off before releasing the GT500. Don’t tell me that building an all electric offroad Hummer makes sense but a Raptor competitor doesn’t. GM has had bad management in the past and with pickup trucks sales at an all time high a Raptor competitor makes much better sense than a electric offroad Hummer.
That worked in the 60’s to the 90’s but most shopping is done in line today. People today know what they want and what they can afford when walking in.
Discovering vehicles in the show room is no longer true.
While it is nice for Ford to have a Raptor it adds little to the bottom line and Really adds nothing to the volume. For is at $6.96 a share due to problems a cool truck can’t fix,
I am no fan of the paint and decal special editions but even I have to admit they make money. Boring yes profitable very,
Actually the all electric Hummer does make sense as it is a way to leverage an image and name with a ton of equity to a EV model that actually would show a profit at a higher price even at low volume. This drive trail will see a return on investment well before it goes into the Chevy trucks. This will lead to Chevy pick ups at much lower prices than anything we would have seen other wise.
JB I get it I want to see cool vehicles at GM too but cool low volume model add little to profits and stock prices right now due to the nature of high development cost. They also cut into CAFE averages that hurt line ups.
Also thatRam 700 HP will not do anymore than another truck with 500 HP on dirt.
Often companies in financial trouble will do high profile vehicles to draw attention of investors, buyers or partners. It is an old trick. GM did it before the bail out and it did not solve their problems.
GM did the right thing like on the ZR2 as they have one of the most capable off road vehicles in the market and they were able to keep the price to where more people could buy it and they are nearly 20% of the mid size trucks sold by GM. They also make money as the development cost avoided emissions and mpg, The Bison the same.
THe truth is VW and Toyota also have built two of the largest companies with few exciting vehicles.
There once was a time the showroom trick worked. Also the Cool Car thing was also a point of pride and profit. But today there is little money there and Showrooms are mostly people who know what they want or at least they go in knowing what they want and then find out what they can afford,.
I was ticked when the GM Performance Division vanished but I also know why and understands the return on investment was not there.
It is not enough to just make money anymore you have to maximize the return on investment.
A person can Build a basic Chevy LT online but when a person walks into the dealer and they see a Chevy Trail Boss or GMC AT4 in person things can quickly change. That person may not get the Trail Boss or AT4 but they will become more open to adding things to enhance the appearance of the vehicle. Like you said above, a decal is boring but works. That person maybe willing to pay more for wheels and decals after seeing that Trail Boss. Clearly the stock market is not connected to reality sir. I learned this years ago, I mean just look at what is going on in the real world compared to the stock market. Ford’s problem is the shares are owned by the family. If the family wasn’t so stubborn the Ford stock would go up. I mean as you already mentioned, it is FCA who is trying to merge with GM yet their stock has a higher price than Ford. There are start up EV companies trading higher than Ford and they haven’t even built a vehicle yet. So no, I know better than to trust the stock market. You say that building over the top vehicles are only done by companies in trouble, yet GM is building an electric offroad Hummer. If thats not over the top then I don’t know what is. I mean, look at how over the top the GMC multi-pro tailgate. People have to fill out special order forms just to avoid it. Why? Because GM uses it to push you towards wanting more options.
JB the wheels and bolt on bits you speak of are SPO parts at the dealer, sales add these on to drive more profit. They always try to sell these or in some cases bolt them on and park it out front to get someone to over pay. Things like this spur emotional drive to get people willing to part with money.
As for stocks everything is about tech be it electric or medical. I know as I am invested. Why GM is up is the GM move on EV. They are selling this to investors as them reinventing as a tech company. People are willing to take the risk in hopes this is another Apple moment. That is why they are forgiving to Tesla. If Tesla was seen as a car company they would be gone by now.
Ford is a problem of they were not in good shape and made a big bet on Aluminum F150 trucks. It did not increase sales and it lowered the profits due to high material cost they thought would be lower. Might note the next a Ranger is a mixed metals vehicle like GM trucks are.
The Ford family 51% has just kept them from being bought up.
GM and others for a while now have tried to sell small EV cars that were $40k and made no money. That is not a way forward. I am not a Tesla fan but they did discover that people will pay stupid prices for a luxury EV that did make money.
Now GM is doing as they have with many new tech things. That is where they put this higher cost technology into higher priced cars where it still makes money and as the invest,eat is paid off with increased volumes this makes it so they could soon put anti lock brakes or stability control even in the cheapest models.
The Hummer will prove the concept. It will sell the tech and make money doing it. That way GM will sooner be able to offer EV truck to fleets at a price people will pay and yet they make money. The Bolt never would do that.
I don’t see the problem on the gates. Most want them if you don’t I have seen dealers just swap it out. The dealers have no trouble offering them.
Just have to agree to disagree. Thanks for the sensible debate!
“The Hummer will prove the concept. It will sell the tech and make money doing it. That way GM will sooner be able to offer EV truck to fleets at a price people will pay and yet they make money. The Bolt never would do that.”
Well said in both comments, C8.R. You clearly have a clue as to how automotive development and sales strategy works. Props to you.
Except they weren’t making great products then either. A slow Silverado SS to a Lightning? A cheap attempt at a Trailblazer SS to a SRT Jeep? An icky cheap gmt-800?
It’s not my job to support a lame GM because they don’t want to do anything exciting.
I think it will happen sooner than later. The ZR2 has had great success so I think they will build on that. I would expect to start hearing some news within a month or so now that the TRX is out.
It’s the answer to the question no one asked and with the pandemic economy how many Bubba-Billies gonna shell out their closed oil-rig money for one?. I’m more interested in a new 300 and Challenger convertible IMO.
Chevy probably have an LT4 Silverado since the T1 SUVs with get one and GM will still move more trucks because a better truck out do gimmicks anytime. Only teens are interested in this flash pan.
Ram can take all my money. I want one.
700 HP is high. Be a small amount of these sold.
GM needs to put testosterone back in charge and then dismiss the entire design department.
General Motors CEO Mary Barra simply doesn’t have the guts to build a Silverado ZRX with a LT5 750 hp supercharged 6.2L V8 and you’ve got to wonder whether it’s data she has collected or is just stupid by inviting customers to buy something else.
Chevy has an answer to to TRX……….the Bolt people!
it’ll never happen…
buy a gm truck
find a wrecked ZL1 and get busy… or find someone who can do that for you and make it your style…
imho…
These are the biggest joke of truck you could ever buy. The raptor, this, a joke! With soft suspension you can’t tow stuff, haul or do anything that you would buy a truck for. A freaking joke!! A truck is for hauling, towing, and truck stuff. Not soft suspension and big horsepower. What a freaking joke!! Buy a normal truck used for truck things!! It would be like buying a super powered truck. You can’t use it for anything that a truck is for!!!!!
How is this a competitor when its $15 grand more than its only competitor. They wont sell many of these compared to a Raptor. Plus the exterior styling just makes it look like a rebel or power wagon or something. You see a raptor and its like whoa.
When they opened the order banks for the limited “Launch Edition”, it sold out on three hours.
That’s just a marketing gimmick to make it seem like the product is rare. 702 trucks isn’t enough to get one out to every dealer.
Don’t worry, these are pick-ups and they can make hundreds of thousands.
BTW, you have to be a real sucker to pay full invoice on a truck.
Hummer by GMC will be the answer to TRX . !000 hp > 702 hp
700 HP may be cool but these are the numbers that really matter.
GM stock $30
FCA Stock $11.46
Ford Stock $6.96
Just saying.
C8R,
If you’re going to measure these companies that way, Tesla just hit $1885.55 today and could buy all three companies combined 5 times over. Just saying.
The problem there is Wall St treats Tesla as a tech stock not an automotive stock.
That is how they get away with no dividends.
Dividends don’t matter much when Tesla is up 1000% in the last year. Apparently, it is valued on current and future growth.
Having said that, I think it’s ridiculously overpriced but others seem to think differently. But, in terms of market capitalization, Detroit is worth next to nothing as if they won’t make it through the current recession.
@Bob White
Exactly. Tesla does not need to give out Dividends to entice investors.
I have been telling everyone on this site for a Couple years that Tesla is NOT a Car Company. They are involved in Software, Autos, Autonomy, Batteries, energy storage, solar, solar tiles, and Energy software for the Grid.
Bob it does matter as at some point it needs to return and stock prices can go away in one day.
Tesla is seen as a tech company. If they were seen as an auto maker they would have been gone by now.
At some point they have to show profits and return on investment. Theses inflated stock prices will not last for ever. Those who cash out early win those who don’t lose.
At some point many will cash out to avoid the risk of a large drop. It is not if but when.
@C8.R
This question is not directed right at you per say. But when people keep saying that Tesla doesn’t make money I get really confused. Do you mean Tesla makes very little Profit as a Company overall?
If Tesla cars don’t bring in money can someone please explain to me how in the Wold they have the absolute best R&D for EV’s, about to have the Semi, Cybertruck, Roadster, and are in the process of building out Three Gigafactories that each one costs at least a Billion Dollars?
All the money that Tesla makes they put it right back into the Company to continue to Grow. Lets think of it this way. Each Factory that Tesla will have can make at least 500,000 vehicles. They will have one in Fremont, CA Shanghai, Berlin, and Austin, TX. That means within 12 months Tesla will be selling at least two Million vehicles a year. This does not include the Gigafactory that Elon Musk has said they need on the East Coast and one more in Asia within the next couple of years. So lets say in five years from now Tesla will be selling 3 Million EV’s per year. How will all of this be possible if Tesla vehicles make no money?
I would really love for someone to explain that to me. Company Profit means absolutely nothing to a Growing Company. Look at Amazon. How long did it take them to show huge Profits as a Company.
Exactly. Customers do not make vehicle decisions based on Stock prices.
GM besides the C8 and the Camaro make boring cars….Fingers crossed on the CT4/CT5 Blackwing cars I guess. The CT4 interior when compared to the BMW 2 Series and especially the new Audi A3 looks like it came from a car 10 years ago.
GM needs niche vehicles ASAP to excite new Buyers. I mean Cadillac doesn’t even offer a Luxury Convertible let alone a Roadster.
Those numbers without the number of shares are worthless.
Would your rather owner 100 shares of GM stock at $30 each OR 1,000,000 shares of Ford stock?
You can’t go 0-60 in 4 seconds on a stock price.
I’m surprised that no one is mentioning that Ford is developing the next Gen Raptor in the new 2021 platform with the new 760hp GT 500 engine. And it will lighter than the Dodge with all aluminium construction of course.
The LT4 wouldn’t cut it.
Nope. The next-gen Raptor will have a more powerful version of the EcoBoost V6. Recent exhaust clips prove it. It’s a common idea online, but I hate to say it, you’re all gonna be really bummed when the Raptor comes out with the dual-blower 6-pot yet again.
Those clips don’t prove anything. The market wants a V8 and that’s what it’s going to get. The Raptor is Ford’s most profitable vehicle and they’re not going to screw it up. Especially when they have a fully developed engine ready to go in.