Rumors are great and all, but sometimes they build hype without any payoff whatsoever. And we enthusiast types aren’t exactly all that patient, either. Which brings us to the topic at hand – in the name of the Baja 1000, trophy truck jumps, and the holy suspension travel, where in the hell is the GM Ford Raptor rival?
Frustration, you could say, is coming to a boil. Ford is selling a mountain of Raptors, laughing all the way to the bank as it rakes in piles of cash thanks to its highly profitable, high-performance pickup model. Off-roaders are insanely popular right now with the movement having not end in sight, and yet, there’s no GM Ford Raptor rival in sight.
Ford F-150 Raptor
It gets worse. Forget the money for a second, as the Ford F-150 Raptor is much more than a profit machine. The Raptor is also a huge halo car for the Blue Oval, illuminating the entirety of the F-150 line and the Ford brand in general thanks to its eyeball-grabbing style and impressive performance specs. The fact the F-150 Raptor exists at all makes folks want to own a Ford, and it enables Ford to be a part of that conversation. Yes, the halo effect is very much real.
And guess what – GM simply isn’t part of the conversation, full stop. No cash money rewards, no image boost, no nothing.
Which, of course, begs the question: where is the GM Ford Raptor rival? Heck, it’s now been a year since the all-new 2019 Chevrolet Silverado and 2019 GMC Sierra have gone on sale, but there is still no Raptor fighter to speak of, not even in the rumor mill or as a developmental prototype.
2019 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 Trail Boss
Well, how about kitting-out the Chevrolet Silverado and/or the GMC Sierra? We’re waiting, GM.
And why not? The new-generation T1 platform Silverado and Sierra are the perfect opportunity to make a high-spec off-road performance pickup. Not only are they are lighter and more technologically-advanced, they’re also really good trucks that serve as a very solid base on which to build a true offroad pickup truck. If GM put in the effort, it could definitely turn these machines into some serious desert runners, while attracting attention and making a healthy profit on every one it makes.
Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 Bison
Granted, we do have the Colorado ZR2, but it is not at all a rival to the 450-horsepower F-150 Raptor.
To make matter worse, this isn’t the first time we’ve written on this topic. Back in 2017, we asked the community if GM should make a hardcore offroad version of the as-of-then-up-and-coming fourth-gen Silverado. Unsurprisingly, the vast majority of poll-takers answered in the affirmative. Then in 2018, we took a look at Ram’s plans to produce the Rebel TRX, all while GM, Chevy and GMC remained silent.
So what exactly is the flippin’ deal here? Where the hell is the GM Ford Raptor rival?
What do you think, dear reader? Should GM finally throw some desert-runner performance into its pickup line to bring the fight to the F-150 Raptor? Let us know in the poll, and don’t forget to subscribe to GM Authority for more Chevrolet Silverado news, GMC Sierra news, Chevrolet news, GMC news and 24/7 GM news coverage.
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GM is too afraid to make a Silverado ZR2.
Alex, one question. The team that worked on the Colorado ZR2 also works with Silverado, or are two different teams without comm?
I think this article was BEAUTIFULLY written an yes that is another thing I absolutely hate about Gm it’s like they are two scared to do things an that why they stayed in second place oh iam sorry third it would make me so proud one day to really see Gm step up to ford
So you said GM, which is still in second place not third. Also you should read the article about the amount of retail sales GM is making.
GM doesn’t have the engineering or design talent to compete with Ford and Dodge in the truck market. GM didn’t have much talent to begin with while the rest either left or have been laid off. Management doesn’t have the courage to bring something to market that might not return a self imposed return on investment. Marketing would not promote it anyway. A poor excuse for an American company. Oh, that’s right it’s a Chinese import company.
General Motors has been delinquent; but this can be corrected at the drop of a hat by dropping the upgraded 495 hp LT2 6.2L OHV-2v V8 from the C8 Corvette into the 2020 Chevrolet Silverado SS (with 8-speed automatic) and let the competition begin.
I think part of the problem is there just doesn’t seam to be any passionate truck people in power at GM. They have the talent as proven by the new C8. I applaud the passion and vision the C8 project displayed. The truck division deserves just as much passion and vision especially considering they are the single biggest cash producers at GM. The ZR2 is great but it desperately needs a big brother.
No! 8 speed is total junk. Can we say, Class action. The 10 speed is the future. There’s a reason gm and ford together r&d’d it. And car engines are not a good idea for a offroad truck, good base but alot of changes needed for that application. And if a sport truck is what you want ask ford why they dont make the lightning…. people want roomy trucks that can take them and their gear wherever they want to go nowadays. Big horsepower and go anywhere capability in style
Its been proven the issue with the 8 speed transmission has to do with the transmission fluid. A flush with the proper fluid remedies the issue.
The 2019 Ford Limited has the same high output engine as the Raptor so there is a street version available.
If GM announces a Raptor fighter for the 2021 model year, with actual performance upgrades alas the ZR2 but with the a little more power coming from the 6.2; I’d trade in my 2019 Sierra Denali 1500 in a heartbeat.
That’s what they’re afraid of…lol…selling fewer nothin’-but-profit Denalis! 😉
Didn’t GM say the T1 was the most heavily focus grouped truck ever or something like that? Asked 7000+ owners for input or some such? And you’re telling me none of them asked for a GM raptor? I don’t believe that for even a second. Every time I see this one particular guy who lead the development in a youtube video he’s being bombarded by questions like “where’s the pano sunroof?” and “why nearly the same interior?” …he’s clearly getting PO’d as he’s hearing this from everybody and has lashed out in a few videos. In one video when asked about no pano roof he interrupts the interviewer with a terse “because we didn’t put one in it!” I think the T1 is great, but they’ve definitely been overshadowed sadly. I imagine heads have already rolled.
I’m also skeptical about their ‘focus group’. The T1 is one the of most negatively reviewed roll outs I can recall from both media and general public. They took parts of what they heard and blended it with what they wanted to hear. It’s not a total fail by any stretch but it’s not hard to see where they cut corners.
GM focus is electric cars for China, everything else is an afterthought that only gets a mediocre effort unless it’s the C8 which is a stand alone effort.
A Raptor rival? Those plans are on a pile in a small RenCen office, along with plans for a hot-hatch Cruze, a Wrangler-competitive GMC model, a performance-themed CUV/SUV with more than ‘adequate’ hp, among others.
GM’s engineering and design resources are bountiful, but they seem resigned to leaving certain niche-product markets alone and standing pat with a lot of profitable products that are mostly competent, but not always compelling, and finish third in 5-car comparison tests.
Hot hatch cruze or sonic ?
Raptor is a niche market. For Ford it was either going to take flight or crash and burn. In some segments there doesn’t need to be a competitor. GM had the hummer brand, albeit it wasn’t as extreme or purpose built like the Raptor but they were more capable than their competitors. With OEMs already trying to flood the markets with multiple vehicles at every segment i don’t think this is one to do that. The only problem is the pricing for the more vanilla trail boss/AT4, if GM is wanting to sell those downgraded “off-roaders”than they need to be more appealing financially.
The AT4 and trail bosses are more capable than the raptor. What does the raptor have that the AT4 doesn’t? Both have locking differentials, lift kits, 4w drive with crawl mode, but the AT4 has 4w auto, higher towing and a better ride. The both have off road shocks, though the fox shocks are considered better. Raptors are more exspensive. I don’t have a use for the raptor and would buy a caddilac or Corvette before a raptor, cause frankly, they would be more usable and drivable. People like the raptor because it has a dinosaur name and that’s about it. If it was called the FX-super package no one would buy it. A Silverado ZR-2 wouldn’t sell. Partially because of the fact that Chevy buys buy Chevy’s because they are the highest quality trucks and are the opposite of Ford zombies. The trail boss will sell better than a ZR-2 because it sounds cool, and is a mud truck. More people live in wooded areas than the desert.
More capable? Better ride? People buy because of dinosaur name? I mean I relize this is a GM site, but man the ignorance runs deep!
Subaru’s have 4w drive and a locking diff, maybe we should compare those too?
GM is the new Toyota. Play it safe. Unfortunately even Toyota doesn’t follow this concept anymore either. When Kia and Honda are developing more aggressive vehicles than you something is wrong. GM designs vehicles that you dont have to explain to your neighbors why you bought it. They’re not flashy, low key and boring.
Heard Ford is bringing back the Lightning, too. GM just keeps the vanilla vehicles coming.
In todays market conservitive products and boring products are where all the real profits are unfortuanly.
Often we enthusiast tend to think we are the profit centers when we are more the marketing centers. We look back at trucks like the Syclone and think that GM made a ton of money on them but the reality even merged witht he Typhoon they sold around 7K units if I recall.
GM did a good job with the GMPD before they went broke as it drew a lot of attention to their products but there was not a ton of money made. Even at Chrysler the Hellcat and Demon are a hell of a cool marketing program but there is little money in the volumes they sell. It is the $30K charger where the money is made.
Now with that said GM could use some good PR with the new trucks and to do a truck would not be all that difficult with the volumes they push. I would do a package like the ZR2 price wise where it makes a very good truck but keep the price under the full boat Raptor. In other words do the GM truck much like the Stingray. Give them the wow but at a price where people really would consider having one.
The Raptor is now over $80K and just out of reach of many. Better tires, Better Shocks. Better Skid Plates, more Power and a front locking diff would be a nice start. No need to get crazy with the body as many change bumpers and grills as it is. Give the customers the hardware and let them modify the body the way they choose. The Trail Boss looks fine now as does the AT4.
If you can just raise the price some and still keep the volume you will make money and still have a decent truck. The ZR2 sells at 15% of total volume and does well to make money. On the other hand there is no Ranger Raptor as if you take the price from down under and convert it to American dollars it comes out just over $70,000. That is why there is no Ranger Raptor till Ford can find a way to make it more affordabler in America.
I gave up on the Silverado ZR2 a while ago. I’ve been waiting for over 7 years for what seemed like a logical product given the punch counter punch Chevy and Ford seem to do on trucks.
It doesn’t make sense to me why GM wouldn’t want a halo trim for their moneymaker truck but with the Raptor killing it and the TRX coming, it looks like GM just disagrees with me.
This Saturday I’m pick up my new ZR2. I’m excited but still wish it had a tad more power. I would’ve spent up to a Silverado ZR2 price point if it was available.
The market is there, GM just feels like they don’t need it but some loyal GM guys do.
Let’s knock down some boundaries GM. Show us all some passion for getting things done. No more talk. JUST BRING IT!
I love the Raptor, but the competitor is the AT4.
6.2 V8: HP 425 Torque 450
3.5 EcoBoost: HP 450 Torque 510
More power goes to Ford
Pricing for Raptors go to $85,000
Pricing for a fully loaded AT4 that has MORE tech is around $64,000
Save $21,000 and have a truck with more tech and similar capability.
Pay for bigger wheels and a power induction system and still save a massive amount of money if the power isn’t enough for you?
While yes it has all the Tech, it doesn’t have the mechanical functions that the Raptor has like: Beefier UCA’s, Long travel suspension, upgraded frame, different bumpers, wide fenders, and a wider stance compared to the FX4(Ford’s AT4/Trailboss).
While you could argue that you can spend the money to get to the same level of performance, you will have realized your “Warranty” no longer exist. This is precisely why GM should build a raptor fighter, having a backed warranty goes miles over wondering if your warranty is still around due to modding your truck
Ford only gets that power with exspensive 93 octane. The 6.2 gets better power on normal gas.
One is a package and the other is, well, more than a package. You cannot just bolt on parts from a package and have it perform like a Raptor.
Torque is where it’s at for off-road use. The gen2 Raptor is much better than the gen1 (with a 6.2 V8) because the turbo V6 makes more mid range torque.
As a die-hard GM guy, it saddens me to say that The General (for whatever reason) is simply not interested in producing fun and exciting niche vehicles.
We obviously have the Corvette, the Camaro (although it appears that it is on the chopping block), the ZR2 and the Cadillac “V” lineup. If Cadillac does implement more “V” models into the stable, GM’s luxury brand will double as their performance brand too. It’s great to hear that Caddy is going to potentially expand their “V” line into CUV’s and SUV’s, but most people cannot afford a luxury/performance vehicle. They are not cheap!
It just seems that GM is happy with putting out bland and uninspiring Chevy models (for the most part). A few of the RS packages are their way of moving out of their comfort zone. $2,000 for black wheels and stickers? No thanks. I have a ’17 C7 Grand Sport and an ’11 Camaro SS Vert as weekend toys and I’d love to have a Sonic SS (~250hp) as a daily. As it is now, I settle for Cruze RS’s because that is as wild as GM will get.
Come on GM, give us something to be excited about!
[GM] Roger that. We have 5 more UCUV, CUV, SUV variations coming out within a year. Don’t tell anyone, but we are tapping famous and exciting nameplates that we are sure will have sales popping. “Nova” “Cobalt” It may not be grand, but…..”Prix”. Are you stoked now or what?!?! /S
Black wheel packages will be available for less than $3000.00.
Sonic SS… pretty please ?
Not always as easy as it sounds. I don’t know if this is true or any factor in the decision but I’ve been through Ft Wayne Assembly a few times and there were width issues with dually fenders, there’s places the trucks go through with the fenders behind the truck on a separate cart. They’ve since stuck a lot of money in the plant so I don’t know if this is still the case or not, but it’s possible a true wide body Silvy to compete with the Raptor wouldn’t fit down the line. Again, don’t know if this is the case for sure and I’m not sure if the other plants are the same but these are sometimes the kind of complications people don’t know about.
Ford Specifically created a Raptor only assembly line in Shreveport Louisiana, that’s how well it’s selling.
Unfortunately with the way the UAW is fighting back at gm (Which they rightly should being that GM is building “American” vehicles in Mexico” ) I think GM would lazily open up a taco shop/truck factory in Mexico to get these up and running.
Do you have a link for Ford’s Shreveport Louisiana assembly plant? I searched for it but cannot find it.
Wow! Great article and great comments! The readers have nailed it! GM wants vanilla profits and are not interested in vehicles that inspire passion or desire in truck buyers!
Imagine GM if a “truck guy” (pun intended) ran the company. AT4 regular cab with some big 6.2 power and real off road prowess. Trail Boss would be HOT! Probably have an SS option to rival the Raptor maybe? Maybe an RS/SS for the street in case the Lightening or SRT Rumble Bee came around. What about a cool body on frame off-roader called K5 Blazer to fight the Wrangler and Bronco!! Niche or not, profit or not, this would put GM in the “car business” again and draw attention to the rest of the line. The sad thing about this is that GM had many of these vehicles all along (save for a Raptor fighter) and chose to let them die on the vine.
Where’s Fred Diaz when you need him? Maybe Rich Bigland can escape FCA!
GM Trucks need Balls and Testosterone to stay relevant. Sometimes a gamble pays off as with the Raptor, sometimes not as with the Nissan Titan diesel, but at least there is an attempt to rise above mediocrity. If not a Raptor fighter at least a worthy Ram and F 150 fighter. At least something with more than black wheels and stickers. AL least get us “wanting” again.
GM is a dead brand walking. Have you seen that ugly a$$ Silverado front end, have you seen the Camaros Ugly A$$ front end. We know that the Camaro is likely dead. The Blazer BLLLAAAHHH.. Im a die hard bowtie guy, I own a New ZL1, 2017 Z06.. I love these cars, but they are focused on China and the cash cows. The mustang is a better looking car, so is the Old ass Challenger…GM needs some Halo cars, Typhoon, Grand National(Ohh I own both those too) A Silverado SS with a LT4/10 speed.. AND A RAPTOR fighter with a LT4, Id trade my Raptor(yes my only Ford) in on one.. hell while you are at it.. I love the new widebody Chargers… GM just has NO answers.. and I have no money for them in the future..
2010: 7,085
2011: 11,135
2012: 13,784
2013: 19,688
2014: 22,409
These are the only real numbers for production I can find for the Raptor. Ford is not very willing to post numbers. I had seen one posted around 22,000 around 2017 but could not confirm.
For a specialty truck like this with all the work that goes in it is a very small part of the F truck production. Even at the price they are charging I really wonder how much they really make per unit. Cost have to be high to build and develope this truck.
It would be really intersting to see the real world numbers on cost vs income on this truck.
My feeling is if Ford was really making a ton of money on this everyone would have a competitior in class. Even the Rebel holds back much from where Ford has gone in modifications.
Lets face it if there was big money in it like the CUV models everyone is tripping over each other to build everyone would be doing the same here. That may be why we just do not see GM making much of a move here.
With slowing of the automotive market growth and the slowing of the global economy everyone will be watching the return on the dollar.
2010: 7,085
2011: 11,135
2012: 13,784
2013: 19,688
2014: 22,409
These are the only real numbers for production I can find for the Raptor. Ford is not very willing to post numbers. I had seen one posted around 22,000 around 2017 but could not confirm.
For a specialty truck like this with all the work that goes in it is a very small part of the F truck production. Even at the price they are charging I really wonder how much they really make per unit. Cost have to be high to build and develope this truck.
It would be really intersting to see the real world numbers on cost vs income on this truck.
My feeling is if Ford was really making a ton of money on this everyone would have a competitior in class. Even the Rebel holds back much from where Ford has gone in modifications.
Lets face it if there was big money in it like the CUV models everyone is tripping over each other to build everyone would be doing the same here. That may be why we just do not see GM making much of a move here.
With slowing of the automotive market growth and the slowing of the global economy everyone will be watching the return on the dollar.
Not saying they should or shouldn’t but these are things web people tend to consider when we complain about what they do or don’t do.
Remember the Trailblazer SS? great vehicle but it did not save them from Chapter 11.
It appears some fear real numbers as it may not support their ideas?
First off I would love to see a fulls size that competes with the Raptor or even the power wagon (I understand one is a desert runner while the other is geared more toward rock crawling).
But Second, GM already has the best “off road” truck in my opinion. The ZR2 is the perfect sized truck for true off road. IMO, the size of the full size trucks today do not lend themselves to off roading. Seems to me the ZR2 is a better pick throughout most of the country compared to a desert runner that truely only shines in the southwest.
Johnathan
Since you wrote this story and state the truck is crazy profitable. Could you dig around and get us the actual production numbers for the last few years.
Can you also come up with just how much Ford makes on each truck less the cost of develolment, added content and materials and what other added cost there may be.
Not being a Smart A$$ here but I would like to get some real numbers invovled here vs just the statment crazy profitable. It would really put this whole thing into light as to why GM should or maybe should not build a vehicle like this. We can build a real case as to why they should or at least understand why they don’t. Just to go with the assuption that they make a ton of money is not enough as are just the emotions of this.
Are they making more money with the investment here or is GM taking this money and putting it into a CUV that may be making more money from 275,000 units.
Numbers would settle this pretty quick.
I would love to see this data too. It’s really perplexing. There was a national auto journalist/reviewer ranting a month or so ago about this exact topic and how the AT4/TB were just GM being cheap and trying to do the bare minimum in that segment.
Does the fact Dodge is jumping into this segment show anything in terms of viability? 2 out of the big 3 will be making these halo baja full size trucks in about a year.
The crazy thing to me is with this current truck (and power train options) scaled up with the Colorado ZR2’s suspension (and looks) would be arguably superior to the Raptor (even with the Raptor going back to a v8 in a couple of years). With the added benefit of making the semi-divisive Chevy design now “cool” across all trim levels.
I just would like to see real numbers vs just someone saying it is profitable. If it is profitable well how much? It may answer some questions we have.
GM moved over 18,000 ZR2 models last year based on the volume I found and the 15% they claimed. The Colorado was a minimum investment too. So it is pretty easy to see they are for sure making money at this low volume.
To be more specialized they did the Bison as a joint venture to save the developmenrt cost. Smart way to get a lot of parts made and only having to invest into the testing and some minor invesments as the other company ate the cost of the other parts and shared in development cost.
GM covered crash testing while the parts mfg covered the parts development. It worked for both.
100% Agreed , the answer could be in the numbers. It could be as simple as the profit of selling Trail Bosses is greater than the opportunity cost of adding the Silverado ZR2 because of bigger margins for the TB.
Dodge joining the fight kinda tells me that they (and their analyst) feel like there is still money to be made in the segment and they understand the power a halo vehicle brings to your line up.
GM could very well be making prudent financial choices (based off conservative estimations) but if they forget to make special vehicles that people want and that turn heads, every once in awhile, then that badge becomes less special generation by generation and the bow-tie stops being associated with achieving automotive excellence and more with practical prudence.
GM is putting out a couple of really exciting vehicles just not in their biggest most important product and I find that odd.
Best article I have seen here so far, thanks.
Come on man. The Raptor is a niche vehicle and there isn’t much more room in the market for competitors. Each manufacturer has their performance niches. GM has a wide range of performance vehicles, its not necessary to have an entry in every single segment, especially the small ones that are already cornered by another manufacturer. GM has Corvette, Ford doesn’t. Does that mean Ford is dying? I think not. GM has Colorado ZR2. GM has the track enthusiasts with Camaro. Ford has the more streetable GT car crowd.
GM has an AT4 Sierra that, gasp, does basically the same stuff as a Ford Raptor for 20,000 less. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter. If GM thought it would be profitable to have a Raptor competitor they would’ve done one. Here’s my theory: Ford tends to get younger, more poser-ish buyers as far as trucks go. It makes sense to sell them a ridiculously over-priced F-150 because they’ll actually buy it. GM truck buyers are more discerning, care more about real trucks doing real truck things (not driving around a desert at 60 mph), and thus I don’t think GM would even sell many of such a truck.
I say “F” the Ford Raptor. It’s a complete rip off and kind of a useless vehicle, in my mind. Do you know how many posers in Raptors you can find at all the big name off-roading trails doing all sorts of “insane” stuff? Dime a dozen.
GM doesn’t need that business.
I’m a Chevy guy and own a Silverado but if I was going off-road I’d buy a ZR2 Bison. Have you seen the reviews where they beat Raptors. I can’t imagine going high speed over rough terrain. I’d take a mid-sized truck that is capable of having more than 1 wheel suspended. Seems the ZR2 wins that fight. If I want to drive 100mph getting to the boonies maybe I’d consider a Silverado with a 6 liter.
The Raptor is Ford’s most profitable vehicle and it basically has no competition at the moment.
FOMOCO is real pleased with this.
GM probably figures Ford beat them to the punch and the Raptor has all the desert runners covered. I know I don’t do a lot of desert running anymore so if GM put one out I would probably pass.
The majority of the Raptors never see the dirt. They’re just 100K status symbol toys with every conceivable option.
Honestly I don’t want to see a v6 turbo GM full-size, I’m happy with my V8 that after off-road use I can haul my camper home without overheating)
Didn’t Ram build a Ram Runner prototype truck to compete with the Raptor? Whatever happened to that…
its behind the 8 ball like all the other dumb ideas that they’re doing
Okay, how to start…I’m a GM truck guy through and through, even tried the Hummer back in 07 and loved that vehicle, thank you Obama administration for shutting that line down, state run industry, seem very Kremlin’esc.
Just picked up a new Silverado RST Black Widow (thank you SCA), in April 2019, love the SCA Black Widow package, it is nasty awesome! That said, when the hell will GM catch up with Ford and Mopar and add the panoramic moon roof? I mean it’s only 2020, and Ford has been offering the panoramic moon roof for years while GM continues with the 1962 moon roof, get real GM.
Next, the interior of the 2019 Silverado, for all trim levels, is the same tires all black hard plastic, minus some very sparse use of softer vinyl on minimal trim work. If I look at the inside of the Ford or Mooar, I see a LOT of refinement and really nice materials and trim.
Up next, the infotainment display looks almost exactly like the one in my 2013 Tahoe LTZ, tired and old. Again, looking at the infotainment systems in the Ford and Mopar and the Mopar looks like a display out of Star Trek, really nice.
Not sure what the hell GM is thinking with power plants, the 5.3L and 6.2L are still two (2) valves per cylinder, one exhaust and one intake. The only upside is the 5.3L is now variable valve timing, but still the same tires 1962 engines, of which the 5.3L has always been a power pig, not sure why, but all 5.3L engines don’t produce anywhere near the power/torque they should. On the flip side, I do like bother the new 8 and 10 speed transmissions that the 5.3L and 6.2L are mated to. By the way GM, dump the crap dynamic fuel management system, I buy GM’s because the are first, normally aspirated engines and not crazy turbo concoctions generating tons of heat and thermal stress. I buy the V8’s because that’s what they are, pure raw Detriot power, so stop with the cylinder deactivation, I’m not buy a Yugo, though with much of the old tired interiors and infotainment I do feel at times like I’m in a Yugo.
Okay, so why am I down on GM and still buying g GM, because I’m a GM guy who lives normally aspirated pure Detroit power, and I really like the new body style and the SCA Black Widow package. However, I need GM to time travel their designs out of 1962 and into 2020. I need multi valve V8’s with vvt, I need, desperately, a friggin panoramic moon roof, likewise, I need a modern LARGE screen impressive infotainment system, and last but not least, I need an impressive modern refined interior with less, MUCH less hard plastic.
I know this sounds like a tall order order, but Ford did that it s many years ago and are selling F150’s like Big Mac’s. Similarly, Mopar has every year improved Ram. Now it’s your turn GM, show us what you can do.
So, now that I’ve gotten the venom out, on to the GM Raptor beater. It would seem to me that with some additional engineering in body, suspension and drive system, that along with help from SCA, that GM could make a quick and interesting push into the Raptor space. GM, don’t over think things, your into some really good stuff with SCA, now you just need to work on the performance aspect.
By the way, loving my 2019 Silverado RST Black Widow, it just needs the aforementioned refinements and you’ll have a move complete competitor to the Ford F150 series as well as the Mopar Ram series.