In January, Cadillac opened the U.S. pre-order books for the 2019 CT6-V. The car sold out within minutes, meaning the 275 allocated examples for the U.S. had buyers. However, just over a month later, Cadillac announced the original 275 were pre-order allocations for customers who wanted to be first. A second installment is coming, though Cadillac won’t say how many it’ll be built. However, those who failed to get one of the first 275 examples will be disappointed to learn the CT6-V’s price is increasing by $4,000, according to CarsDirect.com.
When Cadillac opened the pre-order books, the CT6-V had a starting price of $88,790 including destination. Cadillac has since raised the sticker price to $92,790 without increasing the amount of standard equipment that comes with the car comes. However, customers still get the all-new, hand-built 4.2-liter twin-turbo V8 LTA engine called Blackwing rated at 550 horsepower and 627 pound-feet of torque, which pairs with the GM 10-speed automatic transmission sending power to the wheels via an all-wheel-drive system.
The price increase will likely further upset customers once they learn a detuned version of the engine making 500 hp will be available in the range-topping CT6 Platinum trim with a starting price of $96,790. That’s a lot of cash for an American luxury performance sedan at a time when sedans aren’t in vogue. Then there’s the CTS-V that starts at $87,990 that could entice buyers looking to save a few dollars.
There’s been a lot of speculation surrounding the future of the Cadillac CT6 after General Motors announced it planned to idle the Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly where GM builds the sedan. After GM’s announcement, with the death of the CT6 supposedly cemented in the history books, the automaker announced it was working on counting the model by moving production elsewhere months after confirming the car would still be available in China. Now there are rumors GM is developing a second-generation Cadillac CT6 that’ll ride on GM’s modular, rear-wheel-drive VSS-R platform. Maybe we’ll get a second-generation CT6-V and an improved Blackwing engine, too.
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In my opinion, the Cadillac CT6 (or as I would prefer to call it, the Fleetwood) is one of the best looking luxury cars a person can buy. Yes, that’s my opinion and not a fact. I’ve driven the car at a Cadillac ride and drive event and was totally impressed with the super cruise. Considering that I work for a Mazda/Volvo store now (spent 12 years with Cadillac), the CT6 is superior to the Volvo S90 in every way BUT the interior. It’s not that the CT6 has a bad interior, but compared to the Volvo it “lacks” in some areas. But in exterior style, ride, drive, handling and super-cruise put the Volvo to shame.
Now, if I could just figure out two things: First, how to afford one. Second, where I can have the scripted Fleetwood name made to replace the stupid CT6 mess of alphabet soup!
So the V was 88, and is now 92, and the Platinum is 96?
Like Alpina is to M, Platinum is likely the better buy for a daily driver that still runs.
It’s odd that Platinum buyers pay more yet get a detuned Blackwing. I guess Platinum has more luxury frippery than the V?
Believe Platinum has SuperCruise and Magnetic Ride Control which V doesn’t. Believe Super Cruise package on non-Platinum vehicles is $6k alone.
Has anyone seen a production model yet?
General Motors is run by @$$holes… sorry greedy @$$holes…. I love the Fleetwood but am finished with this pathetic company.
It’s unwise to uphold the Fleetwood in any capacity, as the CT6 is a better car than any Fleetwood ever was: technologically, build quality, engineering, ride quality, you name it.
If you were about to say price, well I’ve always said that luxury is not a value proposition, and the Fleetwood proved Cadillac can’t undercut it’s way to respectability by doing things on the cheap.
Secondly, if you were going to say name recognition, I’ll remind you that the ‘Cadillac’ name is more important than the nameplate. People boast of owning and driving Mercedes and BMW’s. Nobody boasts of owning a Fleetwood, and those that do aren’t the kind of people Cadillac should be focusing upon.
Tough? Oh yeah, but that’s the kind of game that Cadillac has to play since it set out in back in the 1900’s. If you want cheap and accessible full-size cars with names, lower your standards and accept a Dodge Charger.
Otherwise, you’re not in the market for ANY luxury car; be it Cadillac, Lexus, Mercedes, or otherwise.
It makes absolutely no sense to make the Platinum more expensive than the V. Its not like they stretched the wheelbase like the Maybach S or have an Alpina-like higher quality interior or even just an executive seating package exclusive to the Platinum.
GM strikes again …
It does… the VSeries is a performance model.. As in Sport/Lux. The Platinum.. as in Luxury /Luxury will have more standard features and still have a most of the power from the BW.. Its logical and should have always been the way.
The only thing I can say here is.
I think there are a lot of US people who do not want all the ” stuff “.
I do not want a sunroof.
I do not want Super Cruise.
I do not want a 2.0T.
I do not want a 3.6.
I do not want a rebadged Chevrolet.
I do not want a BMW.
I do not want a Mercedes.
I do not want an Audi.
I want a Cadillac, A vehicle that drives like a Cadillac, looks like a Cadillac, lasts like a Cadillac, and has power like a Cadillac.
I want ALL the safety stuff STANDARD.
Some people want a good looking vehicle with the power engine.
Like the new Silverado.
Some want the base or work truck without all the “stuff ” and the 6.2.
But with GM, they just can’t figure it out.
Who is making these decisions, and who is telling them this is what people want.
Well I do… Cadillac offers, IMO, a better vehicle than Audi, Bimmer, or Benz offers in terms of style and performance, but fails on choice of interiors. Since I am a Black interior kinda guy.. I’m fine.. but they really need to offer more choices of colors. Since they now have a proper V8 in two flavors.. I actually think Cadillac needs to price itself accordingly simple and plain The brand is luxury and in no way should be confused with bargain. It just doesn’t make sense and I’ve been saying it since the ct6 debuted that once it had a V-8 there is absolutely no reason why it should not go price for Price up against the 7 Series Audi A8 or even the S-class.
I’m still getting one… Screw it. I snoozed… well U know the saying. Compared to the Ms and the AMGs still a helluva bargain, and better looking to boot. An M760 costs almost $160K, the 2019 BMW ALPINA B7 xDrive.. $140K.
I just want a Camaro with adult styling and good NVH isolation. An ATS with a V8 would have been perfect.
I guess I’m just too old for a traditional sports car with unbridled vibration and noise.
All I am trying to say here is, I’m not sure anyone remembers how this all started.
First years ago when GM started it was GM.
A Chevy.
A Buick.
A GMC.
A Cadillac.
There was one. One of each. As people started wanting more, GM gave them more. And so on and so on.
Well when ALOT of people started all wanting the same X, it became a model, right ?
But you could still get a Chevy with X.
Order options, per owner, build sheet, option sheet.
Not any more ! Now you only get option clusters that make no sense to some, maybe even most.
So people look at all brands and all makes to find the options they want for the price they want.
So maybe Cadillac in the USA should start over.
Let people order any option they want of any GM option available.
Then say 1,000,000 buyers want the CT6, with black interior, Kona seats, plain old shocks – struts, 12″ screen, black chrome wheels, 550HP Blackwing.
Make it Call it an X, whatever GM wants, it will not madder what it is called because a lot of people want it.
So again, at a Cadillac level, GM should do a standard base above any GM product – #1
And let you get ANY option you want – #2
I’m not trying to say anyone shouldn’t be able to have anything they want.
But the people who don’t want all that stuff should still be able to buy a Cadillac.
Totally agree. When I started with Cadillac in 1988, people would often order a car. They would come in, sit down, go over a list of what they wanted (back then, we even did this from the Cadillac (Buick or GMC) ordering book! Honda was different in that they had “set” packages in which you had to make the choice and often would have to take some features in order to get others. I liked the GM/Cadillac way of getting exactly what you wanted and not pay for things you didn’t want.
Well, those days are long gone. Most customers don’t want to wait or order a car. They come in and want it yesterday! Thus the companies (GM very much included) have gone to option groups and packages with clustered features. Frankly, it stinks. In my 2018 Buick Encore, I only wanted the base preferred package group but wanted the Bose sound. NOPE! I would have had to go to the next package group up and take several features I didn’t want, thus running the price up a couple grand. Instead, I picked out my preferred package car and personally installed much better speakers myself. Now I have the car I wanted and better sound too.
I just simply think GM has NO IDEA what a CUSTOMER wants any longer.
From trucks to SUVs. to sedans.
Maybe GM should just open the option list up on there website.
Add a “WISH LIST ” option selection just for customer feedback.
Like ” if you could build a GM vehicle off any of the available models ”
Pick your options.
Just see what people visiting and wanting your vehicles want, because what your doing now is not working for a lot.
There are a lot of things that suck about today’s car buying experience. Individual options are very rare and like you said you are often forced into buying 3-5K in options just to get something simple like remote start or XM radio. Want an interior color other than black. Well you must get a white or black exterior with the other colors forcing you into black only inside. Want a more powerful engine in a lower priced trim. Forget it. Your only real option here is a basic F-150 with a 5.0 or 3.5 EB if your looking for a lower cost sleeper but are forced into a pickup truck.
And now as time marches sadly on we will soon have little to no choices left in sedans unless you go Asian or pricey German luxury, coupes are all but extinct, manual transmissions are basically only offered on sports cars and Wranglers, exterior colors are down to 50 shades of boring grey with the occasional red or blue and the roads are a pitiful sea of cookie cutter CUV’s with 4 cylinder engines. It’s just sad and ridiculous that progress has to be so destructive!
“But the people who don’t want all that stuff should still be able to buy a Cadillac.”
Nothing exceeds like excess, and Cadillac should’t cater to people who insist on being a cheapskate, nor should Cadillac be synonymous cost-cutting. That kind is what killed Cadillac’s respectability since the 1950’s when management insisted that Cadillac be a retirement reward and not a status symbol.
You’re asking for Cadillac to reach for the stars and take on the world by NOT giving it all in one complete package; by telling it to only ever aim for line-drives and ‘it’ll do’.
You don’t want a sunroof, Super Cruise, a 2.0T, a 3.6, but Cadillac needs to include these features to prove that no expense was spared and that noting was overlooked; that they really are showing the world what the future will hold.
If you only want Cadillac to perpetually make cars like they did 60 years ago without proving that they are worthy of global recognition by providing the best possible car available, then you’re asking Cadillac to die of public indifference.
Grawdaddy, you got me all wrong.
I don’t care if Cadillac charges one million a vehicle.
I want to pay for what I want.
If Cadillac wants one million dollars for a vehicle without the “stuff” because I don’t want it, OK, FINE.
This has nothing to do with being cheap, or cost cutting.
What this has to do with is giving the CUSTOMER what they want.
Lets shift gears hear now for a second.
WHAT – WHAT If you think Cadillac is proving there sparing no expense, that nothing was overlooked, and they are showing what the future holds.
WITH a GM 2.0T and a GM 3.6 V6 – SERIOUSLY – SREIOUSLY – SERIOUSLY – SERIOUSLY.
I just could not think of anything else to say, SERIOUSLY.
So you are one of the people who thought it was ok to put a 2.0T in the CT6 in the first place ? Because you think that 2.0T in the CT6 is proving what the future holds.
NOT !
Maybe this will help.
The sunroof will leak, someday, it will leak.
The mag ride will fail, someday , it will fail.
And so on and so on.
This is ok if Cadillac would make of sell all the replacement parts when needed but they will not. Cadillac will cancel this vehicle like all before and than done.
Ask people trying to buy parts for their ELR and others.
I am sorry we will disagree.
I think a Cadillac should be a Cadillac, the best of GM, every option available to everyone.
“Maybe this will help.
The sunroof will leak, someday, it will leak.
The mag ride will fail, someday , it will fail.
And so on and so on.”
You’re thinking is wrong too.
Nobody is holding onto their Mercedes for 8 or 12 years (because they’re leased), and by extension, nobody should be holding onto their Cadillac’s that long either.
Furthermore, if your whole argument against Cadillac displaying any kind of technological advancement at all is that the technology could break down, then you’ve never read ‘the penalty of leadership’.
You must struggle first, and then prove to the world you’ve mastered the craft when the sunroof doesn’t leak or when the mag ride doesn’t fail. If you’re suggesting that the entirety of even having any luxuries at all is all for not because they could fail, then your defeatist attitude is what’s holding Cadillac back.
That the ‘good old days’ of hydraulic windows were better than electric windows, that paper maps could out-do real-time maps, that steel spring is better than mag; your whole argument against any kind of advancement on Cadillac’s behalf is that “why bother if it could fail? Might as well never try to rise above your station”
That kind of thinking is disgusting and unbecoming of Cadillac and what the company was founded upon.
First I am NOT saying that at all !!
I am one of the ones who are saying just the opposite.
I think Cadillac needs it all, Everything.
I am even one of the hated electric fans on this site.
All the tech.
Larger screen.
I was saying V-8 always.
And I know most people here don’t keep there vehicles out of warranty.
However the longer a vehicle is on the road the more exposer there is of that brand.
This has NOTHING to do with giving it all.
It has to do with choice.
The lack of competitive choice is what got Cadillac into this trouble.
Why do you think Cadillac has fallen so far behind Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus, Tesla ?
Because they have been giving there CUSTOMERS what they want ?
Because they have been shooting to the stars ?
In your opinion what has been there downfall, or are you one of the ones who think they only do the greatest all the time ?
“However the longer a vehicle is on the road the more exposer there is of that brand.”
No. The more often people see NEWER cars from a luxury brand, the more the public is exposed to the impression that the brand as a status symbol.
Anyone can keep an old car running, but that’s not impressive. It’s only impressive if the public is seeing the best and newest product constantly.
Anyone can see the past in an old car, but people are more interested in the promise of the future in a new car. They want to be on the cutting edge of tomorrow, not a reminder that a car from 8 years ago is still running; that kind of stuff isn’t that impressive or amazing anymore.
“In your opinion what has been there downfall,”
Cadillac’s downfall came after WW2, when GM management decided that volume sales were more important than ATP, and that Cadillac should be seen as a reward that anyone could get instead of as an exclusive status symbol for the wealthy.
The thinking embodied in Sloan ladder-esque phrasing that “a Cadillac means you have arrived” is what destroyed Cadillac from the 50’s onto the early 2000’s.
The thinking was from Cadillac’s inception (and should always been) “our cars are better because we’ve laboured to make them better.”
If Cadillac had always made out-and-out superior cars continually instead of slacking off like they did, people would line up for Cadillac’s, pride themselves in ownership, know that whoever owns a Cadillac is a person of means, and would still use the phrase “‘The Cadillac of X” to denote the superiority of the product.
By having Cadillac give into it’s customers means Cadillac has to cater to the lowest common denominator instead of having to establish a higher set standard. Mercedes has had no problem getting wealthy professionals into their cars for decades, whereas Cadillac has to settle for having carpet salesmen driving their cars.
And you don’t see that as a problem for Cadillac and GM?
Finally we at least agree on one thing.
If Cadillac had always made out-and-out superior cars continually instead of slacking off like they did, people would line up for Cadillac’s, pride themselves in ownership, know that whoever owns a Cadillac is a person of means, and would still use the phrase “‘The Cadillac of X” to denote the superiority of the product.
Agreed !!
I do not agree on the new deal old deal.
Well I somewhat do.
If Cadillac could get back to building the TOP the BEST and luring in the % of people to buy.
Then we could again see a great Cadillac.
Then we would also see more on the road.
So what is you plan for GM to get there ?
Is it possible ?
Hello, stakeholders I think Cadillac should just build the ct6v and the Escalade drop all the other suv if they are not selling well.
MiatsoCi, I would hope you are now just talking CT6 in “Cadillac offers, IMO, a better vehicle than X ”
Because now that the CT6 has a V-8, it is at a ” opinionated competitive level ”
However I surely would NOT lump ALL of Cadillac into that statement !!
Every vehicle that Cadillac currently offers, or offered in the last 3 years.. competes well against the competitive set from the Germans. In other words.. a CTS vs E-Class vs A6 vs 5Series. An ATS vs 3Series vs C-Class vs A4 . Escalade vs GLS vs Q7.. etc. They are all more desirable than the German equivalent. Now.. in areas where Cadillac does not offer an option.. certainly if I wanted that option I’d have to go with a German marque. For instance.. I want a Convertible Mid-Size Lux.. NOPE!!! CTS doesn’t come in Vert. gotta get a 6series or E-Class.. so Cadillac loses a sale.. Want a large lux Coupe.. NOPE.. gotta go with a S-Class Coupe or Bentley Conti (I know different level) because CT6 doesn’t come in a Coupe.. Cadillac lost another sale. BUT!!! Where they have an available option they tend to build a very nice car.. very competitive with the Germans. Hence the reason why I chose a CTS-V in 2016 over a M5 or E63AMG
To add with what you just said (and I agree with totally) is that when Caddy doesn’t offer such as a larger 2dr (can we say Eldorado??) or convertible, they also lose out in other segments in which they do have competitive offering. Many times cars like those are considered halo cars that may bring in a potential client. But how many of those potential clients may drive out in a big sedan or even an SUV? Go in looking at the S-Class coupe, drive out in a G-wagon?? Same could be said for all brands. Come in looking at the El Dorado, leave in an Escalade.
Good points.
The CTS-V was a great car in 2016, Btw. Top of its class.
I have an 09 CTS-V in my garage, which I really can’t let go, because it is a 6sp manual and was also the head of its class when introduced.
Now Cadillac offers no high performance crossover, so can you blame me for looking elsewhere? (AMG).
To be fair, the CTS and the ATS lines have not remained competitive or more desirable than their German counterparts. In addition to having gaps in its lineup, Cadillac has been non-existent with mid-cycle improvements, virtually letting products die post midlife.
Something about the CT6-V makes me suspicious it’s not fully baked. Maybe it was GM kicking its sedans to the curb. Also can’t help feeling the CT4/CT5 will come out half-hearted after the rollout of Cadillac Crossovers/SUVs left everyone unimpressed.
Maybe Cadillac no longer cares about V customers and enthusiasts.
Suggest you hold on to your CTS-V. No guarantee what the future holds.
Well MiatsoCi, I do not agree with you on this .
I will speak my opinion on the ATS vs A4 for sure. I don’t believe the ATS compares to the A4 at all.
We own an ATS and test drove the A4 to replace it and the A4 is far superior.
And less money than a new ATS.
But we don’t need to concern ourselves with this any longer as the ATS is being replaced.
So we will wait for the CT5 before buying the A4 as I have owned 5 Cadillacs and would love to stay with GM.
However I no longer have ANY loyalty to the brand.
GM has spent all 38 years of loyalty on our last three GM vehicles.
And ZERO CUSTOMER SUPPORT.
But you are welcome to your opinion.
If you have driven all those vehicles for some tine, compared the options and prices, and that is your opinion, fine.
However it is not mine for the vehicles I have driven, compared options and price.
“It just doesn’t make sense and I’ve been saying it since the ct6 debuted that once it had a V-8 there is absolutely no reason why it should not go price for Price up against the 7 Series Audi A8 or even the S-class.”
^ This X1000.
If Mercedes and BMW can command as much, why can’t Cadillac get fair its price too? Why should GM automatically cripple Cadillac and accept a lower price if the full-size market market has so much extra headroom that it can easily support buyers willing to drop $90K+?
If GM didn’t price the CT6 as high, it give the public the impress that GM doesn’t have any confidence in their product and therefore had to retreat to the lower-end of the market to make a case for the CT6.
Besides, the buyer gets the satisfaction of knowing that they are driving about in something that not only looks like money, but cost big money for the privilege of ownership too, and if the general public knows this, then they’ll know that whoever is behind the wheel of a CT6 is not someone who’s faking it.
and isn’t that what Cadillac should have been all along instead of a perpetual tribute to the past?
This is a great vehicle, and a beautiful vehicle, so now that GM has “ONE” non GM/Chevrolet Cadillac and people actually want it.
Like many – many – many have said ( give us a Cadillac that is not a GM Chevrollac and with a Cadillac engine) like this.
So what does GM/Cadillac do when they finally get something right, or almost right ( GM interiors are just )
Change it.
Quit changing things that are working . When most people find something that works, they try to do more of it.
What the H**l is going on over there.
Who makes these decisions ?
Keep it the same price now that people want it and SELL SOME !!
Get some on the road !!
Some vehicles that people don’t only like but people LOVE !!
You hit the nail on the head. Cadillac finally builds a phenomenal luxury sports car that people want to buy, so first they EOL the car, then they raise the price. Wouldn’t want to sell too many now, would they?
I really agree with you and Lithuim-V here. Love the car. I do feel the CT6 is just as good if not better than many other “much higher priced” cars. I don’t feel that the price (although not something I can afford now) is that out of touch based on the content and luxury. For example: The Volvo S90 Inscription T-8 (only engine offering that comes within 150 HP of the Blackwing CT6) with a few options will push around $80 grand. It’s not even close to this CT6.
lifelongGMowner: I too agree with you on the getting a car without sunroof and all the other stuff. My idea of luxury is a comfortable (softer) seat with good support, very quiet interior, safety, comfortable ride without the harsh jarring over bumps and a car that will last. I’m not even really hung up on if the car shares the platform with Buick/Chevrolet as long as they still make it a real Cadillac.
Mostly agree but calling ats,cts, or ct6 a chevrollac is just wrong. Yes, rich uncle caddy loaned some alpha platform stuff to the camaro but the alpha and omega are true cadillac platforms. XTS was a Cadillac too though the platform, being fwd, was better suited for it’s second career in the impala.
Crossovers? Yes they totally deserve every bit of flak they’ve caught for being rebadges of inherently awful minivan clones. Powertrain? Remember the 2.0t was a Cadillac exclusive in the 13 ats. Pretty impressive in its debut form too. 3.6 premium v6 was 1st offered in Cadillac and also the di version was exclusive at 1st. Problem is caddy tends to come to market with a just barely class leading motor and then GM counts on trickling it into lesser brands. They often water it down with detuned versions as the years go by and emissions get stricter. Instead of keeping caddy at the front of the pack they get greedy about cost while competition leap frogs them in year 2,3,4… next thing you know what was a coty winner in the debut year is last in class by year 3. Either the average customer is too ignorant to care or gm just has no respect for those of us who demand the best. Personally the ct6 refresh is the last remaining Cadillac with enough presence and uniqueness to interest me. Since they cannot seem to get their depreciation under control, I’m done paying high lease prices. I’ll look for a used ct6v in 2 years. If I find a 7 series or an a8 before then, I’ll be driving the German. And no, a China built Cadillac will never sully my garage
OK I agree with the original CTS. Still own one 3.6.
I Agree with the ATS. Still own a 2014 so not the 2013.
I Agree with the CT6 also.
The crossovers — as a Cadillac — are a joke.
I will give Cadillac 1/4th for the Escalade, however still just a GM/Chevrolet at the core. (very reliable GM)
Now to my opinion on the overall GM/Cadillac problem.
Like you said on the first then leap frogged.
Like the troubles of old that have ruined a lot of the old steadfast companies.
You simply can NOT invest today, stay stagnant, and reap the investment.
Only through continued investment and improvement will you survive.
Now nobody knows for sure at GM what goes on ( some do ) but this is what it looks like from my perspective.
Once the “money people” have let the ” progressive thinkers” spend and develop something great, decisions need to be made.
GM at this point seem to no longer make those decisions correctly.
This does not mean I think GM needs a new ” widget ” more often.
I think GM needs to stick with a design and constantly improve on it.
With GM every X years they start over.
We could look at ” to many examples to mention” lets try one or two.
1st CTS, ours 2004 is a 3.6. BEST GM car I have EVER owned in 38 years of GM.
Bought it with 400 miles, drove it to 140,000+ at this point. RWD only so not good in the snow.
So we would have replaced it with a new one, and I think I liked the 2008 look even better than ours.
We also could have gotten a RWD/AWD with the 3.6.
So we go to test drive new ones and get the 2014 CTS or ATS. Truly did not like either one but settled on the ATS – AWD – 2.0T.
Mistake !!
So Cadillac went from leading platform, leading engine, in 2004.
To 2.0T redone GM Ecotec with the wrong transmission in 2014
And so you know IMO the 2004 was the BEST GM car I have ever owned and the ATS rates to one of the worst, if not the worst.
HOW – WHY – WHO.
Same with the SUV stuff. We had a 2005 SRX AWD with NorthStar to what a GM – Chevy – GMC – Buick.
We did not replace the SRX with anything Cadillac. ( 2015 Canyon with terrible wrong GM transmission)
I do not even care if GM shares platforms and some stuff, but Cadillac needs to be the TOP not the worst.
OWNERS and CUSTOMERS spoke and Cadillac was rated EXACTLY where I would have rated them,
terrible.
So what Mary is doing is ok with me, however when you go through a downturn I would suggest making fewer vehicles rather than cheaper ones.
At least then your customers can chose from one good vehicle rather than all poor ones.
GM/Cadillac just doesn’t know what the US customer wants and I think they are so focused on China they don’t care.
So the only ones I call CHEVROLLAC are the ones you can buy the same engine/transmission/HP in any and all of GM products.
GM could cut the price a lot by importing it from China. Luxury buyers love imports, so give them what they want.
Price cutting is not what Cadillac needs. You should never race to the bottom.
Anyone who spends 90+K for a car, knock yourself out. Just don’t stop at a convenience store or gas station late at night.
Live to dream.. if I was running Cadillac, I would make the Blackwing 4.2-liter twin-turbo V8 LTA engine rated at 550 horsepower and 627 pound-feet of torque available to every Cadillac in production where the Blackwing will fit; I would want everyone in the world to know that Blackwing means 4.2L Twin-Turbo DOHC-4v V8.
I want a Cadillac convertible
Hey Cadillac, want to increase your customer base? Want to build your brand? What should we do when we obviously screwed up and underestimated the demand here, even though we get paid Giant-Sized bucks to KNOW this stuff as Senior management of the division/”Company?? (“we” = “Cadillac” here folks… Stay with me here…)?
I know!!! Let’s RAISE the price $4,000 and call it a phoney trim level! Yeah: That’s it!!! Get rid of this “V” thingy. Who’s the dope that came up with that? Fire them!
It’s Armageddon at General Motors.
I bought a new (2018) CTS-V last year. MSRP was $95k, does anyone think that’s what I really paid?
I look forward to checking out the new Blackwing CT6. I may never get rid of my V3 though, it’s damn near the perfect car.
No wait!!! Here’s an even better idea: make up a trim level and throw in everything but the kitchen sink… and bump the price up another $4,000. Hahaha! NO WAIT! EXCEPT the maximum HP spec motor. There you go! Case closed…. What a raise this i’ll give me!
We’re you planning to buy a Cadillac or any luxury car?.
I like the price spread, it’s enough room for a small-block V8 Chevy/Buick counterpart to be made without stepping on Cadillac’s toes (I hope this is the case) .
PS: Take a memo: I think it’s time to put a four-banger in the Escalade… Let’s ruin that cash-cow too! Nothing over 2 litres.. Oh yeah: raise the price by $4,000.
Luxury is not a value proposition, and it never was.
If the price of a luxury product scares you, then you are not a luxury consumer.
If you were, then price would be no barrier to you.
Love the car but won’t buy if its made in USA..
GM’s greed knows no bounds.
Limited first time offer,
Does not even let the car get a foothold, and they are raising prices.
Stupid.
Typical GM arrogance and ignorance. Raise the price a staggering 4K for the exact same car but leave the same often criticized interior intact. All this shows is the CEO desperately trying to make a quick extra few bucks in her never ending profits above all else obsession. Is it any small wonder that consumers are abandoning GM in droves these days?
…and raise the price a whopping $8,000 if you want the Platinum edition with a DE-TUNED version of the Blackwing. Ignorance and arrogance indeed.
My only beef is the V-Series is supposedly geared toward performance enthusiasts and, aside from power ratings, there’s not one iota of information of how this car performs or how capable the chassis is.
So I suppose if Cadillac wants to do some price gouging, it’s really up to them – but does anyone have any idea what they’re getting?
Why is there so much whining going on here do people know they have a choice either you want the car or you don’t very simple…..If you can’t afford don’t buy it how hard can that be ???.
Laverne Z.
I hear you and kind of agree. But…..maybe I’m wrong, but I think this is really more about being heard. I know personally (I normally buy/lease a new car every 2 years and I’ve been on the retail/fleet side of sales for 15 years total) that no manufacturer has ever reached out to me in a form of “research” or “customer preferences”. I have no clue if Cadillac (or any brands) actually read some of these types of posts, but they should because people like you and me (and probably everyone on here) may just be the best focus groups they could have!
So I don’t look at it as whining, but more like un-filtered focus groups! haha.
Laverne Zehr,
I want to know why people see wanting a better GM vehicle as complaining or whining ?
I also want to know how you and others think this is connected to “cant afford”
Because this has nothing to do with the money.
Its the product !!
My brother asked me why I drive a Canyon sitting in his Tahoe. He said you payed to much and it doesn’t get any better mileage than his Tahoe.
My answer was I don’t want a vehicle that big, and I own a 2017 HD Denali.
You see, simple, I don’t wan it !!
I could buy It, he didn’t say ” O ” that right you couldn’t afford it.
Its like this. GM market share and for sure Cadillac, in the USA, has been dropping for 20 years now, or so.
This market share has gone to MORE EXPENSIVE vehicles.
NOT less !
This is 100% to be heard !!!
As a GM customer for the first time in 38 years I no longer recommend it as a brand. I drive it and probably will continue.
When I get my dealer survey after service, I will not recommend it.
I would no longer recommend it to my own children and I hope they make enough money to drive better.
It is simply a shame GM as of late.
Look at the new truck, will it sell, yes. To who ? Me. You have 3 to choose from and GM will be mine again NOT Chevrolet.
However the OVERALL, OVERWHELMING, OPINION, is people and CUSTOMERS.
DO NOT LIKE IT !!!
Also the OVERALL, OVERWHELMING, OPINION is people and CUSTOMERS.
DO NOT LIKE THE INTERIOR !!!
GM was quoted they GM had 7000 people give it a thumbs up.
WHAT !! Between just the top two truck brands there are over 1.6 MILLION truck owners.
1.6 MILLION, and GM thought 7000 owners of a GM truck was the answer here !!
This is NOT whining or complaining.
This is voicing OPINION and CONCERN !!
GM in the USA better do better !!
The only thing they have left in the USA are trucks and SUVs all the sedan sales (and there are still a lot, over 1 million ), are foreign.
And the Silverado last I knew was still being outsold by a DODGE, a DODGE ( I know RAM owners want it to be called RAM ) buy unless it is owned by a US company it is still a FCA vehicle.
Get with it GM !!
Some of us still want you to win !
Nadaguides.com has the build and price for the CT6-V online already. If equipped with the rear seat group, driver assistance package and carpeted floor mats (unbelievable those don’t come standard) it just crests the 99 thousand dollar mark. Hey, still cheaper than a Mercedes S63.