President Trump has been an outspoken critic of General Motors since his title of president-elect, but he opened up more about the nation’s largest automaker in a new interview with Fox News.
Reuters reported on the televised interview on Thursday where the president said GM’s electric car strategy is “not going to work.”
“They’ve changed the whole model of General Motors. They’ve gone to all-electric. All-electric is not going to work … It’s wonderful to have it as a percentage of your cars, but going into this model that [CEO Mary Barra is] doing I think is a mistake,” President Trump said.
GM announced last year it planned to introduce 20 new electric cars by 2023. However, it’s highly unlikely the United States will see all 20 models. Many automakers, including GM, have been swayed by Chinese regulations, which will require automakers to sell more zero-emission vehicles to do business in the country.
In the U.S., the Trump administration has proposed freezing fuel economy requirements at 2020 levels.
Although GM consistently says its “Triple Zero” vision guides its decisions, the market for electric cars remains incredibly small in the U.S. Pickup trucks and SUVs continue to fund investments in future vehicles. GM will also soon lose its $7,500 electric-car tax credit after it sells 200,000 qualifying vehicles.
President Trump has threatened to revoke the credit in retaliation to the automaker’s decision to idle four U.S. manufacturing plants, which comes at the cost of up to 15,000 layoffs. Crucially, two car production plants are in Ohio and Michigan, key states that helped the president win the 2016 election.
On the topic of plant closures, the president said the news is “not acceptable to me” and continued to urge GM to reverse its decision to idle the plants.
“Ohio is going to replace those jobs in like two minutes,” President Trump said. “She’s either going to open fast or somebody else is going to go in.”
GM cannot shut down the plants without negotiating their closure with the United Auto Workers. Labor negotiations will begin next year as the current contract expires next September.
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Love our President. He doesn’t take crap from anyone, is not a typical bs politician, and is leading one of the great turnarounds of our country. The economy is booming because of him…Miss Mary Barra and GM could learn a thing or two from President Trump these days.
Haters can write all the want in response below (Reggie/ Old Trombone/ John Hart) but it wont change the fact Trump is President.
He’s a buffoon who has committed felonies as President. Also a proven pathological liar, but hey, keep drinking his Kool-aid.
Yes, “Matt” (Sean/ Reggie, perhaps, judging by your IP address?), we get it you are a sore loser who still can’t over losing even two years + after the election. Sad, really.
But just remember this, YOU lost to a “buffoon” so that kind of puts your intelligence in perspective, doesn’t it?
I voted for him because It was the lesser of two evils vs the Hilldog. He is a buffoon though and should really learn to shut his mouth about a lot of things he knows nothing about. He’s like a bull in a china shop, only it’s Baby Huey in a china shop.
He does have a few good ideas that are often taken too far.
As far as GM goes, I’m done with Mary. She’s turning GM into a Toyota. A lifeless soul-less appliance maker of a car company. Ironically Toyota has been making great strides to shed that reputation.
Hey “Matt” and ‘Mike”,
At the end of the day Trump still beat Hillary/ Hitlery/ Hilldog. The “buffoon” is still smarter than she is. lol
Flipping the board in a game of chess does not mean you won, australian.
Coming from a guy that seems to want a do-over to the election in which he lost. Change the rules because you didn’t like the result, eh? hahahaahahah
You LOST the election. It is OVER TWO YEARS ago. PLEASE MOVE ON. You are looking so sad to the world.
“It is OVER TWO YEARS ago. PLEASE MOVE ON.” – Austrian
“At the end of the day Trump still beat Hillary/ Hitlery/ Hilldog.” – Also Austrian
You hypocrisy is overt and comical, comrade. I hope Vlad doesn’t waste rubles on your frozen ass for this weak trolling. You just can’t sleep at night knowing he didn’t LOCK HER UP! huh?
Yet he has people that worked for him that are being investigated or scheduled to go to jail for numerous amount of corruption practices that led up to the result of this fraud election…”Yeah, What A Good Choice You Made At The Voting Booth” be proud of yourself dummy.
Well said Mike.
I like Trump, but we do not agree on everything and I do agree that some of his ideas are just a bit too extreme. However he is the lesser of 2 evils and is not doing a bad job.
Also agree about the GM/Toyota comment. GM is becoming a brand of rebadged CUVs. Welcome back 2006.
I actually didn’t lose. I’m Canadian, therefore not under his rule. But I call it like I see it. You have made a poor choice for a leader, and it unfortunately looks bad on your country.
Canadian, says it all! You come from a country with the laughing stock Prime Minister of the world! lol Trudeau is a complete and utter idiot…Maybe he wants to play Mr. Dressup again in Indian wedding attire. lololol And his Liberal party is collapsing in Canada and Canadians reject him in huge numbers. What a joke your PM is around the world and in Canada, and Trump plays him like a fiddle.
Second, you have absolutely no say in American domestic politics. In fact, it is people like you why many of my friends voted for Trump…You are just too dumb to get that.
Poor Canada, lost to the U.S. and the “loyalist” all ran like little chickens north in an humiliating manner. Poor Canada tries so hard on the world stage to scream and yell “please look at me! Please! Did you know we are nice?! Please be my friend! Please!!!!!!” lol While everyone runs to the U.S. in droves to become American (330 million and counting, not to mention those climbing walls desperately trying to get in), Canada is stuck with 1/10 the population and obviously because they lost the popularity war along time ago. With an idiot Prime Minister like yours who is destroying your economy and reputation around the world, have fun…
Best part, Trump is dominating Trudeau everyday. Out-smarting and out-gaming him. Enjoy the sore, sore loser.
“a country with the laughing stock Prime Minister of the world! lol Trudeau is a complete and utter idiot”
The more you trump supporters are allowed to fester, the more the educated class starts supporting implementing buck v bell. Get help and sterilization.
Yup, you are “so educated” yet you lost to Trump, “a stupid man.”
lololol I can see that hurt your type greatly. Kind of popped that superiority elitist bubble, didnt it eh?
Sore losers are hilarious. Those who laugh last, laugh the hardest. Trump must be laughing every night at people like you…in the WHITE HOUSE! lol
Do you need a safe space, Canadian _vorg? How about a Teddy Bear?
Time for you to move on lil’ buddy. Nothing will change reality…no amount of projection. No amount of spinning the facts and spewing your hate-filled left-wing propaganda. You lost to Trump. That is a reality. One for the history books. Hitlery will never ever be president of the U.S.A. Now please Move On as this is an auto site, not a sad political rant site for weeping angry sore losers that missed their medication today.
Comrade, you’re too funny.
Nothing will change reality…no amount of projection. No amount of spinning the facts and spewing your hate-filled right-wing propaganda will change the fact that trump, a felon and a traitor, cheated. That is a reality. The US will punish him and will punish the rest of you confederates if you attack us again.
Luckily you have many a safe space in Moscow where you can experience your GOP fantasies for real.
Sorry Hillary keeps you up at night, snowflake!
D.C. is a crime syndicate. It’s obvious You know nothing about the U.S. state Gestapo. Keep trying to sell the state cover story while the A.G. report makes you look like a shill for Strzok Page and the rest of the “insurance policy” SS TEAM.
“While everyone runs to the U.S. in droves to become American (330 million and counting, not to mention those climbing walls desperately trying to get in), Canada is stuck with 1/10 the population and obviously because they lost the popularity war along time ago”
If population = public popularity, then both India and China are at least 3 times better than the US.
You must’ve been really reaching with that one. You just plain suck.
The sad reality is that the Mexican economy has been doing so well that 1.5 million Mexicans have gone back home. The wall talk is complete BS meant to scare the imbeciles and uneducated. Trump is well aware that to get that type of individuals to support him he must divide the country and create rage and outrage. He even described it as such in an interview.
He knows what he’s doing and has absolutely no respect for his followers.
You are a shill for the open border lobby of traitors. Mexico & Latin America have brought a tidal wave of drugs, crime, human trafficking, rape and murder to the USA. Currently there are over 1400 outstanding murder warrants in Los Angeles county alone. Over 1200 are for illegal aliens. That’s one county. Massive wage destruction alone is reason enough to build 2 walls. And now the biggie : Importing foreign nationals to change voting patterns (Steal current and future elections) and change our very nation is beyond TREASON. If you think loyal U.S. citizens are going to sit back and take anymore of this your insane.
So we’re you born in 2010 or 2011?
Matt, my Canadian buddy. Slow down there Canuck. I realize that the Great Canadian Inferiority Complex you Canadians have with America consumes you daily. And losing the NAFTA thing (now called “USMCA” as Trump decided) didn’t help your condition much. But realize that 90% of the “Canadian economy” is run by American companies and trade to the U.S. Without American companies, money and jobs provided to your countrymen, along with 85-90% of the trade going to the U.S., there wouldn’t be a Canada. No healthcare, no jobs, nothing. Literally Trump could collapse the Canadian economy within days if he wanted to shut off the border. Hence why your Prime Minister cowered to Mr. Trump and signed his new NAFTA agreement. He won.
Let is go once in a while and focus on building a proper economy in Canada that is not so dependent on Americans to support you.
USMCA? I thought it was Kovfefe
USMCA, AKA “inbred NAFTA”
I love it when people throw out random figures and percentages without knowing what they are talking about. Your post is extremely inaccurate. I will agree that the US plays a large roll on our economy, but if you closed the border to all trade, the US economy would be in deep trouble too. Your claim that 85-90% of our trade going to the US is incorrect, as we also have large free trade deals with Pacific Rim countries and the European Union. Even though it isn’t true, you President claims that the US has a trade deficit with Canada(it’s pretty close to even). Your own US Embassy put out this fact sheet: https://photos.state.gov/libraries/canada/303578/pdfs/us-canada-economic-relations-factsheet.pdf
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China just announced that their economy is growing much slower than anticipated because of our Trade War with them. They have just suspended U.S. Tariff Hikes. U.S. is doing very well. China wants to make a big and very comprehensive deal. It could happen, and rather soon!
The guy just keeps on winning!
Remember when Sean was trying to scare-monger us into believing the whole world would collapse because of Trump’s trade tariffs on China? lol
I just hope GM’s “Electric Car Strategy” works out better than Trump’s “Legal Strategy”. GM has been making gasoline powered cars for over 100 years, and they seem to be getting worse at it. Does anyone really believe they will do any better with electric vehicles ?
brian W,
Why the fruçk are you wasting your time on this site then?
Dude, no one is buying your IP bluff. It didn’t work 6 months ago, what makes you think you can scare people now?
I always love when the left-wing whacko sore-loser types accuse President Trump of “lying” and committing “crimes”, and even going to “start WWIII”…But then fail to ever give even one example to support such hate-filled accusations.
Interesting, isn’t it?
Meanwhile. Hitlery, the Clinton Foundation, and Obama have been proved to be world-class criminals to the tune of billions stolen from American taxpayers and countries around the world………
No example of Trump’s presidential crimes? How about in Helsinki on the official podium in front of the Russian President “yes Vlad, sir, American officials should be questioned by Russian officials”
If you don’t get that broke a law called “treason” then you are …. DUMB
Crazy Reggie/ Old Trombone/ Matt is back on cue!!!! So obvious.
Old Trombone, how many people does it take to tell you you have a few screws lose and really need to get help for that Trump Derangement Syndrome? It is eating you alive, buddy. Please see a doctor. Mental illness is not something to laugh at and to be taken seriously. Hope you get the help you need.
Thank God for President Trump when you see people like this posting on here in crazy nutjob rants.
No example of Trump’s presidential crimes? How about in NK in June this year he saluted a North Korean military officer.
If you don’t get that broke a law called “treason” then you are …. DUMB
Here is how to tell if someone is “anti-American”.
They hate Americans! If they say “get over it sore loser”. If they say someone who voted for a candidate who didn’t win is a “loser” then they are against that “loser”, they hate that “loser”, and they think that “loser is NOT American”.
If one citizen of America hates another citizen of America unless they vote/speak/write/wear-clothing exactly the same as them, then that is anti-American. If you’re not wearing the uniform and singing in the choir, then they hate you, even if you were born here or swore on the constitution to uphold America before any another.
Regardless of your birth and/or citizenship, if you voted the wrong way, that qualifies you for deportation, right? So those folks who voted for Bush in 1992, and voted for Clinton in 2016, they’re not American, right?
It’s easier than you think to tell an America hater.
“The economy is booming because of him“?
Forbes: “2019 Will Be A Tough Year For Trump And His Economy”
LATimes: “Under Trump, the U.S. debt grew by the size of the Brazilian economy in just two years”
Washington Post: “Claim: “We’ve accomplished an economic turnaround of historic proportions. WP fact check – false”
Bloomberg: “until the third-quarter GDP report showed business investment rising at the weakest pace in almost two years. Now analysts are watching to see whether the latest number was a hiccup, or whether the stimulus effects have already worn off. There’s a “big question mark” over that now, and part of the slowdown might be related to Trump’s trade war”
Fool, it ain’t me saying Trump is complete failure, it’s those markets you love so much saying trump is an utter failure as a business man, which if you saw his 6 bankruptcies you would already know.
But hey, in opposition to all the actual recorded business facts, you still come here and trigger lie.
Thanks for the FAKE NEWS cherry picking statements that “prove” your point. And from “news outlets” that have professed hatred for President Trump and claim opinion is news. Are you serious, Psycho Trombone?
Weren’t these the same mainstream media types who voted 96% for Hillary Clinton? You mean the same mainstream media that said without a doubt “Hillary has a 98% chance of winning” and laughed along with failure Obama that Trump would even have a chance at becoming president. Yup, we all know how that turned out don’t we?
Sore loser. Trump Derangement Syndrome. Classic case. But you can do anything about it, Psycho Trombone who never stops yapping politics on here…Nothing. Trump won, you lost. Move on.
Are dating Peter Strzok ?
Back in Eisenhower and Kennedy’s days (note, Prez’s from both parties) America used to be proud of being “early adopters” and “leading edge scientists” and “getting to the moon first”
Now, after two Bushes, and one and half Clinton’s, and a complete Orangutan, America only has insults for their own scientists pushing the boundaries of technical knowledge.
Europe has overwhelmingly adopted electric bicycles, yet here in California is the only place on earth to buy electric bicycles which have been thoroughly hot-rodded (see Hi-Powered Cycles). America has the fastest tech but no customers to fund it because of stupid politics like yours.
Europe is developing fast chargers and charge points. Europe used to be ignored in the technology race, now America, as clearly shown by you commenters right here, wants to be ignored in tech development. Congratulations. “DealWithit” wants America to lose the tech race, so that he can sit back and congratulate himself on being “the smart guy” when in reality he just made America dumber than him. Which he learned from Trump, the ultimate dumb-downer. 6 bankruptcies and he’s got you calling him an economic expert.
My American bicycle is wayyyy more advanced than that eurocrap bicycle. It gets better milage than a Prius, has 70hp and has 260mile range to the eurocrap 5 mile range. With an integrated sterio and gps, I can carry a passenger and my “recharge” session takes about 30seconds at a mobile station, not 30 minutes. You should here that 750 roar.
Seen Harley Davidson is changing to electric? YEAH!
And that’s why I’m actually an Indian guy
Indian – owned by Canadian company Bombadier. Patriot? For who?
Old Trombone sounds like a Nazi to me? Or maybe something worse, as lunatic Communist.
Take your pick.
No one is surprised that a trump supporter prefers nazis to commies.
BTW – “one and a half Clinton’s” – Hillary is the only complete Clinton, bad and good. Bill is half human, if that.
Go to the following two Web sites:
Qmap.pub
http://www.Twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
Think for yourself. Don’t let crazy control freaks try to control you and the narrative!
Didn’t they say that about the American mobile phone market when Nokia and Blackberry were the leading manufacturers? Where’s Europe now when the iPhone and Google Android rule?
Are you dating Peter Strzok
“Love our President.” – but you hate our country
“He doesn’t take crap from anyone,” – except vladmir putin.
“is not a typical bs politician” – He’s a typical BS d-list reality tv star
“and is leading one of the great turnarounds of our country” – Unfortunately the turnaround is in the wrong direction.
“The economy is booming” – Thanks Obama
“because of him…Miss Mary Barra and GM could learn a thing or two from President Trump these days.” – Like how bankrupt a casino or pay hush money to porn stars.
“Haters can write all the want in response below (Reggie/ Old Trombone/ John Hart) but it wont change the fact Trump is President.” – And trump being president won’t change the fact that he’s a traitor to the United States, a russian asset, and a literal retard.
Obama managed only 1.9% GDP growth in 8 full years at best!!! President Trump got 4.7% in less than two years, a number that the fake news media said would be “impossible” for Trump to achieve…
Stock market has made over 100 record closings since Trump became President…Yup, higher again than failed Obama and helping American pensions and union budget bigly.
Manufacturing is booming again with the Japanese and Europeans making big auto investments, Taiwanese in electronics, etc. American companies who left the U.S. in droves under Obama coming back in droves…
Small business sentiment highest in decades and African-American small business starts HIGHEST ever. Sorry, Obummer.
Trump has pushed the unemployment rate to a 49-year low and BLACK AND HISPANIC UNEMPLOYMENT IS LOWEST EVER!!!!! So much for the “first black (he is actually only half black) president” who talked a big game but never delivered for minorities.
Tax cut largest in history under Trump providing money back in the pocket of millions of average hard-working Americans. Obama raised taxes to extremes killing businesses, jobs and American dreams
Oh, and Obama DOUBLED the national debt…His debt was more than ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS combined!!!! Trump inherited his mess and is trying to fix it.
What happened to all those terror attacks and violent demonstrations in the U.S. under Obama…Gone under President Trump. Thank you for making us safer, Mr. Trump.
I could go on, but don’t want to embarrass you old man…
Enough of the Fake New Old Trombone and _vorg. And please get help because your endless rants on here prove your are certifiably nuts.
Regina, when will you trump-grabbed ladies ever going to learn the difference between the economy and stock market indexes?
1.9%? His top quarter was 5.9%; a full 1.8pts more than your inbred orange cult leader.
Stocks still haven’t had the gains experienced over Obama’s tenure and all but the most unqualified of FOX economists agree recession is imminent.
Consumer confidence is dropping like a rock and most small business owners are welfare leaches that are too stupid to vote in their best interest. Who gives a crap what their sentiment is when their actual position is terrible? That’s right, you koolaid drinkers are all about “our feelings > your facts”… Sad!
Obama doubled the national debt after inheriting a rate that should have multiplied it by 9. Your economic illiteracy is such a stereotype. I’ve never been able to find a single one of you that has the capability of understanding that debt and deficit are different things.
That tax cut is costing us jobs and GDP, you moron…
“I could go on, but don’t want to embarrass you old man…”
Please continue, there is nothing funnier then when you feral trumpers intentionally publish how far detached from reality your fox twisted worldview is.
CNN much : https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/12/06/the-media-are-just-as-complicit-in-doj-fbi-corruption-and-fisa-abuse/
Says the draft dodging bone spurred treasonous conman who declared bankruptcy 6 times.
You give 45 way too much credit. Has nothing to do with smarts that helped him win. Wily and conniving? Now that I’ll give him.
It was the flawed and outdated highly manipulated Electoral College that enabled him to win.
Can’t say he won in the typical fair and square approach when over 3.3 million more people in general voted for Hillary than 45.
With regard to his feedback on GM, he may or may not be right, but perhaps he should take a few steps back and figure out how to set an example of the right and proper way to run a country cause to date he hasn’t accomplished much save for being divisive and antagonistic. He inherited a growing economy and low unemployment -thank you very much to his predecessor- that is now starting to show cracks because of his trade policy and incompetence.
I don’t think a guy who’s never run a successful business besides franchising his own name, is in a position to tell anybody how to run their business. Also, since when did Republicans drop the whole “government should stay out of the way of private business” mantra? Trump doesn’t want to regulate the auto industry, he wants to micro manage it. Or worse, let the Koch brothers pick the winners and losers.
Trump will soon be on the inside looking out. Not soon enough though.
Couldn’t agree more. Great to see others with the same thinking on here.
Americans are tired of the fake news media hatred towards our President. Fake news obviously failed in stopping Trump from becoming President and it is failing again with the American people who hate the media lies and bias.
Time to work together and build a great nation once again. If some hate him and the country so much, I can show them the door. Mexico is close by…
Mexico doesn’t take illegal immigrants from failing USA
Do you see México asking for a wall? They don’t because they don’t need it. Their folks can keep their border solid. Did you know thousands of USA citizens try to go to Mexico illegally every year and they get stopped every time? Yup, didn’t know did ya? Because you think the world is exactly like Fox tells you.
You’re such a fking moron! Get lost snowfake.
Fox News is full of Trombone. And oh yes Mexico is suffering the horrifying effects of U.S. citizens desperate to hop the border into Mexico. All 5 of them. Quit shilling for cheap labor you ______
Qmap.pub has all the details and facts online.
Check it out.
AMEN!
So it will work for Tesla but not GM huh Mr. Trump?
Wonder how many Deep Pockets of the Oil Industry he has hands in. This is getting Ridiculous in this country.It is from both Political Parties. Too many ties with Big Oil to assist our market companies in leading this new Revolution like Europe is doing and hate to say it, especially China.
Get on Board Government. Stop taking Big Oil Money. This is the Future. Period!!!
Making me sound like a freaking Tree Hugger because both Parties are not willing to give up the Oil money they receive. It is utter Garbage from our Government.
“So it will work for Tesla but not GM huh Mr. Trump?”
If they put any other American auto maker’s name on Tesla products, sales would plummet. Likewise for the German luxury cars. The pursuit of status has a herd mentality.
Some of us have woken up from the heard/ sheep mentality.
Others who haven’t need to see the Web site below:
Qmap.pub
Qmap calls itself “patriotic”.
And it is! Very patriotic. To the country that owns it. Na Zdorovie! If you are American and go to that site, you are the exact definition of “triggered”.
Qmap:
“If you are a free thinking American, here’s what you should be thinking”
“If you are a independent American, here’s what you should be doing”
“If you are a self-motivated American, here’s what you should be saying”
“If you are a free thinking American, here’s what you should be thinking”
Think of Qmap as the place where FoxFools go after they realize Fox is owned and completely controlled by a non-American (Aussie) who has an utterly weird fetish for British royals.
Qmap.pub provides all the facts. Even Old Trombone agrees. Check it out online.
Here’s your honest media : https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/12/06/the-media-are-just-as-complicit-in-doj-fbi-corruption-and-fisa-abuse/. Keep working to destroy wages for hard working Americans. Long live cheap labor !!!!
If a significant portion of the country’s auto fleet becomes plug-in electric, a large number of very expensive powerplants will have to be built, and everyone who uses electricity will have to pay for them, not just the EV buyers. Then there are all the NIMBY lawsuits and red tape. Many of the politicians would welcome the opportunity for graft, however, so Big Oil wouldn’t be the only money pot in town.
It’s a shame the Volt wasn’t a small crossover instead of a four door coupe, but they put aerodynamics before practicality and pretty obvious market trends. Also, the HHR was the only existing CUV they had that was small enough, and it was dated and probably didn’t meet newer safety standards.
Renewable energy and storable energy most importantly is the Future. Stop believing Big Oil.
There’s a reason Europe and (Man I hate giving them credit) China are in the lead here. America needs to follow soon. We cannot lose the Energy War. It will be the biggest economy going forward. Will replace Big Oil. Why do you think Gasoline is $1.85 in the Midwest right now?
Big Oil is getting close to the end. Will never totally disappear but they are just trying to hold on for as long as possible. This isn’t a Political take at all. I am not even stating one Political Party over the other is more bought off from Big Oil. I am just stating that EU and China are pumping extremely large sums of money to win the Energy Race and we in this country are arguing about Coal.
Look to see what Tesla is doing in Australia. Imagine that is a bigger scale. Energy prices are coming down dramatically. We are able to utilize and store much more energy from Wind, solar, and water power now than ever imaginable. It will only get better and better.
Well he is mostly right with our current technology. I could never own an electric car. Can’t afford one. Most of them are too small. The range is less than half of my gas powered car. And as far as the Tesla Model 3 I just don’t like the looks of the car, especially the blobby plastic faceless front end and the rental car cheap interior. So instead of attacking the president for every word that comes out of his mouth actually listen to what he is saying and work together to figure out a good compromise. Throwing all of your eggs in one basket has proven fatal in so many instances.
Just yesterday BMW took a $35k electric car and charged 60miles of range in 3 minutes. Gas mobility is dead.
Hey “DealWithit”: “Haters can write all the want in response below (old men with no jobs) but it wont change the fact Gas is Dead”
Trump is right about this. A Chevy bolt is a good car, yet its a 40000$ version of the Chevy spark when you consider the room taken up by the battery. Lion batteries are incredible, yet my phone batteries are shot after 2 years. What happens 5 years down the road and the boot only has a range of 200miles? There will be no resale value. Scinetist are talking about solid state batteries Wich will have over twice the capacity, allowing for half the price with a battery that is half as big, but gas engines are following up with new tech as well. GM needs to dabble in this tech instead of dive head first. If they put that much money into engine investmebts they could have a compression ignition V8 with improved thermal control making 35mpg next year, while keeping it about the same price.
Like the GM of old, they are about three or four years behind the trends. Case in point FCA and Ford: they saw over three years ago that the sedan market was petering out and acted to retool their plants. The bobbleheads that is GM upper management just realized it last month? The sooner Barra and her cronies are swept out the better.
GM already builds compression ignition engines. Four-cylinder, six cylinder, and V-8. The first one was built in 1934.
Barra is out to lunch and has been for years. The way this announcement of the firings and plant closing was bush league. Did she really think that Trump was not going to react to this news especially since she goes to DC, hat in hand, begging for fuel economy relaxation, fast-track AV open testing on public roads sans any safety standards, and mandates that the a certain number of EV’s be purchased to further her agenda?
Here is a WSJ article that highlights her incompetence in this situation:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/gm-ceo-is-under-fire-from-trump-lawmakers-over-restructuring-11544641616
Trump is only reacting because it’s in two very important states for him. He would have lost the election without Ohio and Michigan. If GM had announced the same thing in California he would have cared less. He knows this is a huge blow to his reelection campaign. And regardless what he says nothing could move into this plants for years even if GM wanted to sell them. You just don’t setup shop overnight. Also out of of posible buyers you have VW (has money) and Tesla (no money). But both are non union shops so the UAW would freak out about either of those potential buyers.
Best bull-case yet for GM’s electric car programs.
What a bunch of utter crap this site is turning into.
Personal insults, identity theft, zero moderation, and attic dwelling conspiracy loons does not make for a good user experience.
GMA does good reporting, and when the staff here gets involved in the discussions like Alex did yesterday we all benefit, but I would rather see the place turn into a ghost town than endure these Q retards any longer.
I’ve watched these idiots abuse the staff here for months and attempted to stick up for all of you. I’ve stuck up for you personally, Sean, on several occasions. But you let these guys walk all over you, throw sh*t in your face ,and you actively encourage more abuse by not deleting their sh*t and banning them. You quite weakly referred to a poster here the other day who had called out your reporting as a “GM’er.” They’re not GM’ers and you know it. They’re bottom dwellers who couldn’t tell a tie rod from a jump rope. And they only care about one thing, and that’s their man crush.
Sometimes I wonder if it actually is the staff here making these retarded Trump comments just to drum up responses. If that’s your intent, could you dial it down about ten notches. And if it’s not, please grow a pair and moderate these comments. The place is going downhill. Fast.
What this guy said.
I came to read about GM and it’s cars and trucks. I guess I’ll have to find some place else.
Then go
This is bullcrap commentary. Mary is betting the farm and may well lose it is all I have to say. I’ve about given up on them as a source of my next few new vehicles anyway.
The thing about all of this is that there needs to be a balance. Honestly, yes we do need to find a different source of fuel but internal combustion engines do need to live on. As far as the politics go, let’s put it at this. 1.) Donald Trump was the best choice out of the two presidential candidates. Everything else aside he is a successful businessman (being that he uses what he has to his advantage as ethically or unethically as anyone may think and the man has had several people follow some of his strategies and have become wealthy like it or not) He does have issues, talks a bit much but he has done the things he said he was going to do and has spurred this country back into action. 2.) Hillary is a lying, snake and has nothing good for this country (just like the president who came before her from that same party & just like her husband who shipped our jobs over seas!).
Beyond the politics though, lets get back to the cars. Now, as a disclaimer, I am a fan of old school cars, I like simple and Chevy has always been that. Although i don’t like them, i do feel like electric vehicles do have their place in this world. We have relied on electric vehicles such as Trolleys and trains for at least the last 40 years to transport us back and forth from places and although they’ve run on rails and cables, I do feel like fleet vehicles should switch over to electric vehicles. You figure if Parcel companies, food delivery services, Uber/Lyft, airport shuttles, etc. all switched over to electric vehicles, we’d save a lot of money in gasoline. Also, you have warehouse delivery vehicles and straight trucks that do local runs (under 100 miles a day) that could benefit from electric vehicles.
Beyond those uses, you do have the (I’ll be nice) “Eco-friendly” & “Future minded” people who enjoy the thought of owning a fully electric vehicle. Not that i’m against being eco-friendly or anything like that but if that’s what some people like, why not cater to them in some way shape or form with electric vehicles. I think most people have a problem with car companies trying to use the legendary names with these new cars that have nothing to do with the names that they’re trying to use (i.e Ford trying to use the Mach 1 name on an electric crossover or Chevy making the new SUV they created called the Blazer, when it has nothing to do with the Blazer of old.) Now if I were GM, I would take Buick and make them my electric car and hybrid car lineup. GM has already proven that they can have a performance electric car with the E-COPO camaro so why not bring out the buick Avista as an AWD fully electric performance car and just completely reshape Buick to embody the global & green side of General Motors. Cadillac would then embody that global luxury lineup with the new Blackwing engines both twin turbo DOHC V6 and twin turbo DOHC V8 engines, which leave GMC and Chevrolet to take their place as the more common place gasoline engines.
It’s still apparent that there are people who are enthusiasts and who still want American performance V8 engines and pickup trucks with V8 engines and diesels. Looking across the board, there are even foreign companies with V8 & Diesel powered pickups, as well as V8 powered performance cars, the Lexus GSF, RCF, LC500, Toyota Tundra, Sequoia, Land Cruiser, the Nissan Titan, the Nissan Titan XD diesel &, the Nissan Armada are all V8 gasoline & diesel powered vehicles that are very popular across the board. The thing about them is that they are smaller displacement V8 engines with none of them exceeding 5.7L (or, in GM terms a 346ci/350ci V8). The Lexus Trio use a 5.0L V8 (305ci) while the Titan XD uses a cummins-sourced 5.0L V8 diesel, all DOHC. As much as I love the GM Small Block, I do believe it might be time for GM to venture into DOHC V8 engines if they are going to remain. Now, I’m quite sure that GM could easily make a 305ci (5.0L ) DOHC V8 small block V8 pushing 425hp/420tq along with a 495hp/480tq 5.7L along with a supercharged version of the 5.7L Pushing 755hp with no problem. That’s a Z/28, an SS-350 and a ZL1 right there. Taking those same engines in the 1500 series trucks, They easily outgun most of the Ford lineup and even the Mopar lineup of 1500 series vehicles (minus the 3.5L Ecoboost V6) Chevrolet’s lineup could easily consist of the Camaro, the a revised Malibu (charger competitor on the upcoming VSS-R platform) a Chevy Trailblazer, a Chevy Colorado/Blazer based Colorado, Tahoe (Tahoe Blazer Z71), Suburban, Silverado and Silverado HD. That, Along with the GMC lineup of Trucks and SUVs would cater to the more traditionalist and enthusiasts while Buick would cater to the people who are more into the whole “green & modern” scene and Cadillac would have the high end luxury and luxury sports car performance group with whatever cars they come out with along with the C8 Corvette moving to Cadillac and adopting the Blacking twin turbo V8 hybrid setup and even a fully electric super car setup.
As I’ve mentioned before, with the Chevrolet lineup catering to those enthusiast of the Camaro, the Silverado and a performance Malibu sedan for the masses, GM’s Performance & Accessories lineup should expand itself a bit to include factory warrantied options from certain aftermarket companies such as Driven Performance Brands Inc which include Holley Performance and it’s subsidiaries, Flowmaster & its subsidiaries, along with brands like Forgeline, Centerline, American Racing wheels, & Kicker.
Lastly, moving to a more ethanol based fuel type will not only save on fossil fuels but also make cars more efficient. As we know E85 fuels burn differently than regular gasoline (which is already an E10 mixture) so moving higher and basing more fuels on a higher Ethanol content would make for more efficient fuel systems. So now you’ve catered to different customer bases, you have smaller, more efficient engines, have a smaller carbon footprint with cleaner burning, high performance exhaust systems, and a more profitable lineup. Oh completely forgot the about the v6, yes I do believe that GM should also show love to the V6 group by adding a DOHC 3.8L 350hp V6 With an optional supercharged 390hp 3.8L V6 offered as a performance option such as the Camaro RS 1LE, a Colorado ZR2 option and as a base engine in the Silverado since the Supercharger would add more torque. And for the Diesel powertrains, I see no issues or anything that needs to change with them. All of this really puts GM inline with the rest of the world as far as engine sizes, powertrain offers, etc. Except for the fact that GM would be offering only about 4-different transmission options (10-speed auto, 7-speed manual, 10-speed Allison and a 10-speed DCT in Cadillac only). GM would have about six plant sites in North America, 2 for each platform (VSS-R, VSS-T and VSS-S) dropping the VSS-F (Front drive) lineup altogether. I would also return Holden to its rightful place as a muscle car lineup and truck lineup for Australia.
Do you post 5 paragraphs about all the cars you want to make on every GMA article about car strategy?
vbondjr,
The entire world, including the largest market in the world; China, want full electric self driving cars. Your backward looking suggestions are a guaranteed plan to extinction.
That’s why people like you don’t lead corporations. (hopefully)
A lot reading this are not going to like, agree or face up to what I am going to say, but I think GMs C.E.O. Ms. Mary Barra has to be appreciated for taking on the very difficult task of steering General Motors as a business in the ONLY direction she can to ensure GMS future survival.
That ‘direction’ most certainly means considerable pain for many in the short term and I expect that Mary Barra is well aware of this and the bad press it brings for General Motors.
As I understand it America’s current ‘president Donald’ (Trump) has a lengthy record of failed business ventures, little knowledge of the automobile industry and his comments about how Mary Barra should run General Motors are motivated not by sound business practice but by self interest in gaining political support (votes).
For over 60 years I have been a loyal GM supporter. I hold valued memories of the times when Cadillac, Buick and Oldsmobile were the high end respected GM brands, While Pontiac and Chevrolet supported the rest of the market. GM certainly has a proud history of having built / designed some outstanding vehicles.
Nevertheless nothing remains the same! GM and other automobile manufacturers face a very different world to the one that existed during the 1950s, 1960s & 1970s. Sadly GM at least in the short term will be a much smaller company than it has been in the past and this reflects the changing community attitude to the car itself.
‘Trump’ might disagree with C.E.O. Mary Barra however Mary is wise to not take advice from a failed business man who knows nothing about the automobile industry. Of Course Donald could show his support by investing all of his money into continuing to build and promote GM vehicles that are not selling or producing a profit for GM. Then Donald could add yet another failed business to list that he has already destroyed.
I say, let’s work with Mary Barra in the hope that GM is not lost altogether. GM has all but departed Australia, Germany, South Africa and the United Kingdom, Canada could be next and even the USA! In my view Mary Barra will in time be seen as having saved GM!!
I partially agree with your optimistic viewpoint. I also believe that the consumers should be more involved. Gearhead/enthusiasts, pickup lovers, hybrid/electric followers, fleets/business, etc should voice to gm what it is that they want in their cars. Trust me if I could I’d be beating in their ears what I would love to see in their cars again. Same as I would do with ford.
That is a good thought, but Barra and company operate under the Roger Smith philosophy of “if it has a GM nametag on it, it will sell.” This deafness is evident in the cheapness of GM’s interiors across all brands and lack of competitive product in key segments.
Tigger,
If GM is such crap why are you wasting your time on this site. Get lost, buzz off and go play in traffic.
It is none of your business why I post here. GM is not crap, its management is and you are too ignorant to see it.
Barra is so far out if touch it is unreal. Love Trump or hate him, he did not become a billionaire because he was stupid. Barra was a GM lifer and someone’s golden child that was put on the GM fast track. The problem is she learned all of GM’s bad habits along the way. She does not know what the market wants and instead shoves down people’s throats what they don’t want like it or not. She said herself that GM’s customers want EVs and AVs. I am not interested in either especially AVs. I would like to see, however, a Bronco or Wrangler competitor but we can’t have that. At the end of the day, she is loosing market share for her company, alienating customers along the way. She is the Carley Fiorina of the automotive world.
And you’re a little whinny b!tch who needs to get a job.
Hey Bill, how’d you get to use my screen name?
Not copying. I was born that way and have been using it here for over 3 years but I usually don’t post much.
You would know imposter Bill. BTW I do have a job- making idiots like you look even more stupid…
You’re not very good at it, likely like everything else.
Hate to break it to you, but posting your idiotic thoughts don’t make you earn your welfare checks.
You would know. How long have you been on welfare?
I think the impostor named Bill has a name that cannot be posted on this site so he just chose a generic one.
Instead of everyone arguing and bickering amongst ourselves, what can we do to change the way gm is going? We are the dollars that back gm because we are the ones who buy their products (or don’t buy their products) how can we get gm to actually listen to us instead of us suffering from their short sightedness? Bickering and complaining has never changed anything. It just wastes time as whatever is being argued about slowly moves in the same direction and never changes. Gm changes the camaro front end because in a loud voice people told gm to fix that shit! And that was something small. If more of us gm loyalist were to step up and say something to gm about what we want, something may change. It’s just like politics, if you want to see change, get involved. Start at your community politics and get change there. Those are where the chain starts to reAch the top. We as consumers are the ones with power and we’ve been made to think that we are the bottom. Without us, there is no industry. The industry is for us to buy from. Why don’t we actually tell gm what it is that we really want! Just saying.
GM doesn’t get a $7,500 tax credit! Please stop repeating this. It’s inaccurate. CUSTOMERS get the tax credit if they purchase a qualifying plug-in vehicle. It certainly helps the manufacturer sell more of these vehicles (and helps them make the case for creating them in the first place), but it’s not a tax credit for GM.
I agree that the incentives should end, but for a very different reason. We incentivized companies to build plug-in cars. Some took the opportunity to do so. We shouldn’t reward the companies that didn’t take advantage of this. The incentives are helping manufacturers to speed up their deployment of clean vehicles. Going forward, I’d prefer a substantial increase in gas taxes to give everyone the clear incentive to buy fuel-efficient vehicles (and for manufacturers to design and build them). This would also help to maintain a consistent fuel price so manufacturers can plan future product with a semi-known market. Not only do we need to think of emissions, we need to consider the subsidies paid to the oil industry and the military/security costs of importing oil.
Those that would be most affected by an increased gas tax are the least likely to be able to purchase a more fuel efficient car. They are stuck in the used car market. They already limit unnecessary driving. They might react the same way the French have to increased gas taxes.
Keep the EV incentives.
BMW and Porsche just announced they can fully charge a battery in 15 minutes. How do people not realize that fortunately or unfortunately, whichever way you see it, that EV cars are the future. ICE engines will still be around for some time but all the R&D from companies will be going to Full EV vehicles.
VW just announced their next round of ICE engines will be their last ones to get developed. I am sure they will last on the market anywhere from 10 to 20 years. It all depends how well the EV Tech keeps getting for the average costumer looking for a new car.
In my onion the Holy Grail will be when an EV gets 500 miles per charge and can fully recharge at a Super Charger of the customers choice in under 10 minutes. Nobody but a very select few would want too or have too drive more than 500 miles in one sitting. Trust me from all reports out there we are not that far away.
I hate that people will lose their jobs right now but on the flip side, our Government needs to step up to not have the EU and especially China leapfrog us in the Auto sector. That to me is worst care scenario. I will know how well Mary Barra is doing when the first Cadillac EV comes to market. It that thing is basically DOA, then Cadillac and GM might die out unfortunetly. Time will tell.
The only way that people will buy EVs in good numbers is if: 1) They take no longer to recharge than it does to fill up a ECE vehicle; 2) the EV costs no more to operate than a ECE Vehicle; 3) Charging stations are as abundant as filling stations; and 4) the cost of the EV vehicle is no higher than an ECE Vehicle.
One thing that people are not looking at is this: If EVs catch on to a substantial extent, the cost of electricity will skyrocket while the cost of gasoline will plummet sending the buyer back to ECEs. Oil companies are not going to fold up shop for the good of a nation or cause.
Is a Tesla Model 3 more expensive than a BMW 3 Series?
Yes the BMW 3 Series has a lower starting point but the Tesla is pretty much priced exactly the same.
Did somebody say #MAGA? I thought so! Best President ever. Even Rusty Trombone knows that.
You have to be a complete MORON to be mindlessly repeating slogans while he’s giving it to you up the backside.
Tried to kill your healthcare, trillion $ deficits, killing the US auto industry, surrounds himself with criminals…
Well you must be king Moron then. Maybe you can explain this http://falseflag.news/2018-08-30-top-ten-instances-where-the-deep-state-fbi-doj-and-cia-spies.html
Hey! GMA! Why have you allowed more than one person to use the same screen name? What a bunch of JERKS!
Yeah! What Bill said.
I agree with the other Bills.
Spot on
yup. nailed it
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Truth!
Any Bill can only speak the truth.
Hey, Alex, this issue deserves your attention.
Yeah! What Bill said.
Indeed
Two things any country needs to do before they begin selling electric vehicles on a massive scale, the first is an upgrade to the country’s power grid to support the additional thousands of megawatts of electricity generation that will be needed to support over a million additional electric vehicles as countries in the European Union will face rolling brown outs because they have done nothing to their power grid; the second thing is to build an infrastructure where it is ‘easier’ to recharge an EV battery than buying gas because not everyone has a garage to install a recharging stall meaning every public parking space must double as a recharging stall as only after these two things are done will adopting a EV fleet be practical.
(A third thing is an universal EV battery recharging system because you can’t be like notebooks with every manufacturer having their own type of AC adapter; not to mention the fact that the added electricity for the power grid needs to be from a green source or moving to EV is meaningless.)
https://nypost.com/2018/12/08/comey-claimed-ignorance-about-warrant-at-house-hearing/ : just do a search with the words “Comey admits” find out for yourself the things this STASI agent has admitted to.
Can I speak with the censor who is blocking my free speech ?
Love our President