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Cadillac Will Stick With Johan de Nysschen’s 10-Year Turnaround Plan

Cadillac abruptly ousted Johan de Nysschen from the top leadership position this past April and replaced him with Steve Carlisle, formerly head of GM Canada.

With the change, rumors have circulated over how Carlisle will lead the division as it works to transform itself from bargain luxury brand to a competitive premium line of cars and SUVs. Even though de Nysschen may be gone, we now know his plan will largely stay the course.

Cadillac confirmed with the Detroit Free Press that the 10-year turnaround plan will remain in place. It’s very likely what comes from the brand in the years to come will still have de Nysschen’s fingerprints all over.

“We are staying the course with our 10-year strategy that we put into place a few years ago. If anything, Steve will be looking at ways to accelerate that strategy,” Cadillac spokesman Andrew Lipman said.

It’s largely understood that GM’s upper management grew impatient with Cadillac’s turnaround time, and the emphasis to “accelerate” the strategy appears to confirm the thinking. We’ll still see a new Cadillac vehicle pop up every six months, per the brand. On the docket are CTS and ATS replacements (likely called the CT3 or CT4 and CT5), a three-row crossover called the XT6, a new Escalade and the potential for a production Cadillac Escala flagship.

Carlisle still has quite a challenge on his hands: shifting brand perception. According to the report, many consumers still look at the brand as tarnished after years playing to a specific consumer and highly subsidized lease rates to move metal. Carlisle must help Cadillac find its own identity once again.

Former GM Authority staff writer.

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  1. The time line will not change as they can not speed it up.

    They an discontent the cars and parts bin them more to cut cost and leave us with lesser cars than what we should be getting.

    Look for corner cutting by GM again and that will result with the same outcome as the past 20 years. More good but not good enough. GM is willing to come up short here and that is not acceptable.

    You want to convince people of quality stop using Chevy parts. Or at least hide them better.

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    1. Scott it really seems what ended up hurting Cadillac in it’s 10 year turn around plan is that they did not forecast correctly for the CUV/SUV’s they would have needed to maintain a bit better sales numbers.
      Because GM actually did go all out on the ATS/CTS chassis. I know the cars are not perfect but they were a huge step up.

      The CT6 is pretty nice, but just arrived at a tough time for Sedans as the market shifts even harder to the CUV’s.
      I honestly think this may have really hurt JDN’s vision for the turnaround as if there was at least another CUV/SUV or 2 to get those sales numbers up, he would have been left alone by GM Corporate(Board) in the meantime.

      just my opinion.

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      1. It depends on what truly happened. Did JDN not push to get more Cadillac crossovers approved fast enough, or did he want to do crossovers better than what will be done?

        If he didn’t push them fast enough, why was it? Was it because he was incompetent (highly unlikely) or was it because he was held back by the overall GM superstructure/bureaucracy (more likely)? We should keep in mind that Cadillac technically still doesn’t have its own product development, but instead takes on GM designers and engineers as vehicle assignments roll in… so perhaps vehicle development resources were not readily available to speed up Cadillac crossover development.

        And if he wanted to do crossovers better than he was allowed, what does that involve, exactly? Did he want rear-drive platforms worthy of the Cadillac name but instead was forced into using corporate GM architectures?

        We’ll find out with time… but there’s much more going on here than we know…

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    2. Yep I have a 2014 ATS with 36,975 miles with a shattered CUE Screen. I would love to buy a NEW XT4 but GM will not fix my CUE screen even though it is a well known issue. What part of this can’t GM get. If you don’t make quality cars, and don’t fix the known quality issues, you will not sell quality cars. Its perception and consumers. I feel everyone around me driving BMW,AUDI, and Mercedes is laughing at me for driving Cadillac.

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      1. The shattered CUE screen isn’t covered under your warranty???

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        1. Nope, no warranty on this car. Branded bought with 2000 miles. Stopped by the Cadillac dealer today, they had two screens shatter on there lot last week. SAD

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    3. Well said, Scott. I agree.

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  2. Acceleration the 10 year plan is not sticking to the 10 year plan.

    Cadillac will fail under Steve Carlisle. It’s not just about product that checks boxes to fill out segments, but they have to fit those segments. Carlisle will not push the boundaries of what GM deems reasonable for a Cadillac interior, he will stay well within them.

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    1. Wrong.

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    2. Have you seen the new BMW X5 interior?
      Cadillac is nowhere near that level and I highly doubt the upcoming XT6 will come close to that level, I hope I am completely wrong but I doubt it. It will probably be the same thing Cadillac always does, price the XT6 the same as the X5 and be nowhere near that level of execution. Please prove us wrong GM. Bring Cadillac back to where it should be. Tier One Luxury.

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      1. It’s not just the interior! The design & proportions, engines & so on … The thing have a motorized parcel shelf for god sake! (gimmicky, but very convenient).

        And we both know it’ll be part of the Individual program.

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  3. My question is does the 10 year plan start now or when Johan announced it? My opinion is the only way Cadillac will succeed in truly competing with the top Luxury brands is to match or exceed them in everything but price. Like Scott said good but not good enough is not going to cut it and trying to match them in price with Cadillacs suspect reputation is not going to work. Even if Cadillac were to match or even exceed the competition in every measurable way they would still have a problem trying to sell at the same price point. If I was a Mercedes,BMW,Audi or Jaguar fan why would I choose Cadillac over my previous choice. They have got to find a way to get those customers interested.

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  4. Good. We do not need more Chevillacs. Cadillac needs to keep pushing to make its way to a better, upscale image. Cadillac needs this now more than ever with fierce competition out of Europe, now Korea (Genesis), and on the home front with Lincoln stepping up their game.

    Cadillac needs to invoke luxury, refinement, and innovation into everyone’s minds again. Do so with an iron fist, whilst wearing a velvet glove, GM.

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  5. I hope the Aviator and RDX were a humbling wake-up call to Cadillac Interiors team that dynamic interior designs are paramount to a Cadillac resurgence. You can not parts bin yourself to the top.

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    1. Cadillac is going down the Cimarron road once again. The XT4 is a crossover will be built on an average Chevrolet platform with an average GM engine. Jack it up, put on some Cadillac headlights and some fake wood in the interior and voila! A Cadillac! GM just doesn’t get it. Luxury vehicle owners value Quality, Craftsmanship, and Engineering, not GM parts bin trickery. This is supposed to compete with Audi, BMW, Lexus, Mercedes, Volvo, Alfa Romero, et al? It’s not even in the same league as Lincoln.

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      1. Really? VW, Audi, Porsche, Bentley all share platforms. Lincoln Continental on a Fusion platform? You need to do your homework.

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      2. You do realize that every other automotive company does this exact same thing but Cadillac is the only luxury automaker that is held to this standard!

        And why is that? Benz used parts from dodge when they owned them nobody said a word, BMW shares parts within the rest of their parent company nobody says a word! Those two brands fill up the sales charts!

        I ask again why are Benz and BMW allowed to do this but if Cadillac does it they are considered a failure?

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        1. I don’t care if Cadillac uses SOME gm bin parts. Most are good parts etc. But in GM eyes, Cadillac is supposed to be the top of GM vehicles. They are simply the lowest in ratings of GM vehicles. Cadillac fix my shattered CUE screen please. ATS with 36975 miles. JUNK

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        2. The problem is Cadillac is using parts you can see, touch & interact with. Its okay to use modular platforms, transmissions, electrical systems, … Etc, sometimes engines as well. But you should never ever share things like switches, gauges, seats or any interior parts.

          Mercedes still catches flack for sharing parts with Jeep on their current ML\GLE\GL\GLS. Maserati & Alfa Romeo are under fire (& rightfully so) for using Chrysler interior parts.

          You know, one of the first things Ferdinand Piëch did when took over VAG is to separate Audi & VW, he made each brand get its own suppliers, accountants, leaderships, engineers, dealers …everything*. Basically treated them as if they were completely separate companies. Was it expensive? Absolutely! But it paid off.

          Audi was in a worse shape than Cadillac when Ferdinand took over & it didn’t have Cadillac’s or Mercedes’ heritage to rely on, today Audi is an innovator & a heavy hitter in the luxury car market … They are still unreliable, but very desirable.

          Unfortunately in the wake of #DieselGate VAG began to cut corners to save a buck & he’s no longer there to stop them. It’ll hurt them in the future across all their brands … Save for Porsche, maybe.

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          * things got blurry with modular platforms & some engines (tightened emission laws).

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    2. All future Cadillac interiors need to be of the Escala design language. Got to come firing at the German Brands.

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  6. You do know JDN started this 10 year plan. XT4 and XT6 is stared of these plan. It was going to move faster from there. How do you figure he will cut corners, but jdn would not have?

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  7. A Cadillac models coming ever six months, it’s be said may times. It’s JDN work to speed up Cadillac, and it started with these XT4 and XT6. These man said in every interview.

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  8. “Largely stay the course”, “accelerate” the strategy!! It takes a Hella lot to Scare me, but these two phrases Scare the Hell out of me, anytime you “Largely” do a plan..you Not doing the Plan and “Accelerate” means you cutting corners to get there! I like to give the New Guy a chance, but with talk like this, Cadillac will be Junk again, if you gonna use someone’s plan, why did you get rid of the person who Implemented it in the first place??? Because he would Stick by the Whole Plan and Not Cut Corners…Bring Him Back GM, Dam…

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  9. You can ruin a brand in a day but it may take at least 10 years to build it back up. I think Cadillac is on a good foothold in the rebuilding process.

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    1. 10 If you are lucky. It was projected that Lincoln would need at least 35 years to catch up to Cadillacs of few years ago, that’s why Ford’s former former (is it 2 or 3 now?) CEO, Alan Mulally wanted to kill Lincoln alongside Mercury.

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  10. I am a big GM fan and I wish them well but I am not going to hold my breath. Just can’t forget the almost as good is good enough attitude that was once GM. Need someone in there to step up and accept nothing less than the best. Make money for investors or sell cars to customers who would not normally buy GM products. Which is more important? Making money for investors is a good thing(I am one), but if you cant sell your products no body makes money.

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    1. I am also a big GM fan. I am currently sitting here with a 2014 ATS with a shattered CUE screen 36975 miles. GM and Cadillac will do nothing to fix this issue even though there are thousands of these shattering. Again I would love to continue to buy another Cadillac, I have driven GM for 34 years and have owned 5 Cadillacs but all I get are excuses. You notice Cadillac didn’t win any of those fake JD power quality, or dependability awards. I simply can’t believe it. I have owned Cadillacs my mom drives Cadillac and they will not do anything . Poor quality to start with and poor customer service to follow. Just 1 more Cadillac customer looking elsewhere.

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      1. Is the car under warranty? If not then how do you have a leg to stand on? Seems to me that if the car was under the bumper to bumper warranty GM would fix it.

        So stop being cheap and take out your check box out and pay the bill.

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        1. I am fixing it tomorrow by installing a new digitizer myself. Also you are correct in your eyes and GM eyes I don’t have a leg to stand on. That doesn’t change the FACT that the screens are JUNK and are freezing and shattering and people are not happy. How are you going to get higher consumer ratings, and reliability ratings by not fixing the problems you know are there. Consumers are consumers, we buy GM and Cadillac we are your consumers. If you would take care of your consumers, even when you sell them un reliable poor quality products , consumers would take notice. But you and GM just keep telling yourself warranty, warranty, warranty, but if you know you have a problem and don’t fix it you will loose. LOOK ill say it again LOOK Cadillac has lost and is loosing. But you guys just keep preaching warranty, my last 4 Cadillacs lasted well over the warranty. People I know buying high end cars are not buying warranty, they are buying QUALITY and RELIABILITY.

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      2. Two customers looking elsewhere.

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  11. No were in these main article say that they were going to do things have way, cut corners, or change these 10 year plan. They talk of speeding things up. JDN said these same thing, he was going to do these same thing, he just didn’t do it fast enough.

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  12. People on here need to read/listen to some of JDN interview’s.

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  13. Here’s how you can accelerate the 10-yr plan:
    – Don’t spend any more time developing exclusive engines (use corporate powertrains)
    – Don’t spend any more time developing gimmicky electronics (that lack usability)
    – Spend time giving the cars a premium look, feel, driveability, quality and a dealership network that offers a consistently great experience

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  14. ahaha, feel sorry for you Drew.

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  15. working for GM at dealership level I don’t know what some people are looking at when they down talk any GM product . exterior styles are more stylish to compete with anyone else and interiors are smart and functional. fit and trim has much improved . Remember all the other nameplates mentioned have their own problems as well or there would be no need for warranty departments that they all have ….

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    1. Literally the only sensible comment

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    2. I actually really like the direction GM is going. I think the CTS, malibu, impala, and cruze are the best looking cars in their segment. Same deal with the trucks, I prefer the sierra and silverado over others. I think some of these guys would complain about getting BJs.

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      1. OK JWL, Lathan, TomG,

        If your working at a GM dealership, and some of us guys complain about everything. FIX MY SHATTERED CUE SCREEN. Read Cadillac forums. Look at all the shattered screens. GM will do nothing. I will give you my address you guys drive your GM asses over and fix my Shattered screen. GM is great in your eyes. Better yet what dealership do you work at, ill drive there. Cadillac fix this JUNK.

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        1. Look, I know that being outraged is the vogue things these days. You’re car is 4 years old and out of warranty. It sucks, i’d be pissed too. Service departments as synonymous with horrible experiences no matter if its GM, Toyota, or Honda. A little perspective here would help, I mean, its just a cracked screen. Its not like the engine thru a rod or transmission failed. Sounds like you are fixing it yourself and moving on. That’s good.

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          1. I am not outraged, its simply SAD. A little perspective. I bought this ATS with 2000 miles, dents on every panel of the car except top ( roof, hood, trunk ), and one headlight. Therefore in insurance company eyes totaled. With this branded title GM and Cadillac decline ALL warranty or repairs except government mandated safety recalls. No interior damage, no air bags blown no windows broke nothing. Perspective, my wife and I went and drove a new Audi A4 today, WHAT-SERIOUSLY-WHAT. What ever you do as a $50,000 ATS owner DO NOT go drive a $50,000 Audi A4. You would have to be a GM employee or be payed to buy an ATS. That Audi was SO, SO, SO much smoother, had more power, was more comfortable, the dash screen was great, the gauge cluster great, the ease of use. “O” by the way we also stopped by the Cadillac dealer they had 2 CUE screens shatter last week just sitting on the lot. So we are moving on alright, take a guess.

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            1. By the way, at GM dealership this simple $100.00 digitizer screen is a $1800.00 repair. A little perspective. After we have terrible luck with the Audi I am sure we will be back. May be in 10 years after Cadillac is great again.

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              1. 34 years of GM and 5 Cadillacs SAD DAY over a $100.00 screen that are literally breaking on the dealership lots. SAD.

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          2. Known defective part sensitive to heat and cold. Cadillac replaces for some customers post B2B if they contact infotainment department. Dealers do nothing for customers with delaminated CUE screens.

            Did GM/Cadillac not know the cars would be driven outdoors?

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            1. Just pay for the repairs like a normal person that has a car that is not under warranty!

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          1. I have already read them all. SAD. When these cars are 6 to 8 years old and over 50% are driving around with shattered screens, people will all continue to talk. Yeah its a Cadillac they have those shattered screens. What are you going to buy when you finally save enough money to get a new car, well it wont be one of these Cadillacs. BUT here we go again. Another 4 to 5 year period where Cadillac has released SUB PAR, and KNOWN DEFECTIVE Vehicles. Now once again trying to convince Jo public the status quo has changed. I however will sit this one out for 4 to 5 years. We will see in 4 to 5 years how these new Cadillacs are holding up.

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            1. Explain why this is a GM problem they need to fix? How should a company keep fixing car past the warranty? 5 years, 10 years, 15 years?

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              1. OK Brian ,
                Just for you one more time. More than a GM problem, this is a Cadillac problem. I know they are the same BUT Cadillac is supposed to be TOP TIER. Now GM has there TOP TIER product FAILING. So now here this, I don’t care if Cadillac or GM have a warranty. So by you saying GM or Cadillac not fixing a car out of warranty, you are saying that the life of a GM car is 3 years 36,000 miles. If that is what GM advertised they would not sell one vehicle. “O” I take that back, they would sell you one. GM has a known problem of premature failures on certain items they will not address for the general public the same. Some people will get them fixed, others not. I know its $$$$, but the perception is terrible. I have sat in many engineering meetings designing products, do you believe GM engineers sat around and decided we want the CUE screen to shatter in a 4 year old car. NO. Also I am raising engineers, you know how Mark Reuss said there is or will be an engineer shortage. This very thing is why. Engineers don’t want to be known as failures because some BEAN COUNTER said we need you to engineer a inferior product to sell to make someone else $$$. This is NOT a wear item, this is a PERMATURE FAILURE. Again It is fixed in my car by me $100,00 part. The main problem is Cadillac is trying once again, or still, to rebuild its brand. How do you rebuild your brand by NOT fixing your brand.

                So in conclusion for you, I DO NOT expect GM or any other company to fix worn out junk. This is a is a 4 year old Cadillac with 36975 miles. It is NOT worn out junk.

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                1. I cant believe I have to explain this to a grown adult! Look if you want GM not Cadillac to do something about it, then inform your fellow buyers to purchase a extended warranty. If GM is forced to fix these on their dollar because the smart people (not you) purchased a extended warranty then you would see a move to cover their backsides! But because their are people like you running around they say why bother!

                  I find it funny that we would never expect a company to replace a broken TV or stereo anything for that matter that’s out of warranty!

                  I’ve asked this question before and I’ll ask it again. What dont you understand about being under warranty? I dont care what the failure rate is on a part!

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                  1. I know we will never agree on this. this is NOT a $200.00 tv, or stereo. This is a $49,000.00 Cadillac. And again this is what YOU don’t understand, My fellow Buyers, the SMART PEOPLE, have already and are still doing something about it. It is something you CAN NOT WIN. There buying NOT CADILLAC. Cadillac has been going DOWN HILL for a long time. What cant YOU understand about that. The SMART buyer IS buying something else . Look at the CONSUMER numbers Cadillac is terrible.

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                    1. If you want to talk about a warrant on a car then we can talk.

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              2. “Explain why this is a GM problem they need to fix? How should a company keep fixing car past the warranty? 5 years, 10 years, 15 years?”

                Brian, the CUE screen is a known defective part. The screen delaminates in heat or cold temperatures. Cars are driven outside. Do you understand that this is not the touchscreen on a microwave oven used in a climate controlled environment?

                CUE delaminating is not a wear and tear item. It’s a known defect.

                Brian, when you finally spring for your very first new Cadillac come back and talk to us. Until then you are just blowing smoke.

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                1. I have a informat screen in my car, if it stopped working or cracked then I would one take to the dealer if under warranty or order the part and pay to have it fixed!

                  I dont care if it’s a part that breaks everyday, I dont care if last one day past the warranty. This conversation should not be about the screen it should be about what is a warranty?

                  Why do we even have warranties if automotive companies are going to be forced to fix parts that are out of warranty?

                  Do you think GM should be required to fix the screen in year 15?

                  Buy the way the screen does wear out everything that is built will wear out!

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                  1. Brian, the part is defective. Cadillac continues to use it in the cars. The screen does not shatter. It delaminates under the glass because it is temperature sensitive. The delamination is spontaneous. It is not the result of impact or misuse by the car owner.

                    Try a little common sense. Buy that first Cadillac with *your* money. We’ll spend ours wth a different car maker for our next purchase.

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      2. That my friend was funny

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    3. As many of us on this forum are lifelong GM customers, we have a different perspective than you Tom. We actually pay for our vehicles and experience those problems with warranty departments. We are the ones that experience poor support from service because of the shortcuts taken with the products. We are also the ones that experience the lost opportunity costs of not having bought a superior product from any other manufacturer that is not rated last in vehicle dependability. Really, it is just disappointment seeing that nothing will change.

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  16. “many consumers still look at the brand as tarnished after years playing to a specific consumer and highly subsidized lease rates to move metal.”

    Subpar quality & unrefined powertrains weren’t an issue? Hmm.

    Anyway I digress, I’m not surprised, as I mentioned in my post when JDN quit, if contracts were singed & money already changed hands, the plan will continue. However, GM will still try to find wiggle room to cut corners … Aka “Accelerate”

    BMW announced the new X5 today, that interior picks up where the XC90 left off & you know Mercedes will not let that go unanswered…

    Obviously, the upcoming Cadillac XT6 will not be able to go toe to toe with X5 in driving dynamics, off-road capabilities (BMW appears to interested in giving it some capabilities) & available powertrains (i4 to hi-po V8s), but it better be just as refined, just as luxurious & just as comfortable if not better.

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  17. I have owned 2 Cadillacs (2010 CTS4 wagon and a 2009 SRX4). The CTS I purchased new, the SRX slightly used when a 3rd child suddenly appeared and we needed a larger car. To me, those were the highpoint of recent Cadillacs. The SRX interior (post-2007) looks and feels great even today (we still have the SRX as it will be a car for our oldest who will start driving soon) – no squeaks, very few rattles, wood and leather look great, knobs have a solid feel still. There have been a few reliability issues (power steering motor failure, hatch motor failure, heater failure, timing chain issue – the latter was fortunately covered under a special warranty) but the build quality and materials of both were on-par with their competitors at the time.

    Unfortunately, the recent Cadillacs have not improved as much as their competitors have. I wouldn’t call the interiors junk, but they don’t feel special nor do they feel like they will last like our SRX’s has. Cadillac also drug their feet so long on a non-Escalade 3rd row vehicle that they lost me to Ford (where we are VERY happy with a Flex Limited Ecoboost) when we needed a newer car for the family.

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  18. Wha I am readin a few of you think Cadillac an GM are doing ju fine. My self and a few others think they could and should do better. Especially Cadillac who Ned to offer vehicles an service second to none in every measurable way. Grants ther ar omevh the GM portfolio that are doing quiete well, but in Cadillac’s case they are playing catch up. Therefore everything about them should be impeccable including your experience at the dealer before,during and after sales.

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  19. Guess I need to proof read before posting. There is Some weird stuff going on in my last post. For example READIN missing the g. AN missing the d. JU missing the st.NED missing an e. AN missing the d. GRANTS should have been granted. THER missing the e. AR missing the e. OMEVH boy that one is really screwed up should have been some vehicles in. No excuse but like GM needs to do I will try to do better next time. Iol

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  20. While it’s too late to make dramatic changes to JDN’s 10-year turnaround plan for Cadillac, one has to remember the old adage the devil is in the details as new Cadillac President, Steve Carlisle, may fine detail changes to the vehicles which may differ from what JDN originally had plan.

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  21. I drive an ELR that I’ve had for 3 years. I love it…never had any issues. Before this I drove a cadillac cts and again no issues. And I drive about 30,000 miles a year. I’m looking to get a new car in September for my bday but im not sure if it will be Cadillac. I’m 24 years old and the current cars are just too bland. My #1 choice right now is the navigator, unless Cadillac blows me away with an amazing offer.

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    1. Are people just obsessed with just getting the best deal or buying what is popular at the time?

      Are people constantly looking over at the neighbors driveway to see what they are driving so they can determine what they need to be driving next?

      Why dont people keep cars for a long period of time? I see so many people who trade in their cars every 3-4 years. Not sure why this is, I wonder if someone could explain it to me?

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      1. I can’t speak for everyone, obviously. But for me I love new luxury cars. Cadillac is my favorite. I own 3 successful nationwide businesses, but I’m very frugal, so I don’t treat myself much. Ideally I’ll get a new car every 2-3 years if there is something that I want. Buying my favorite car is my reward. 3 years ago it was the ELR (It still turns heads everywhere I go). Now I want something more comfortable. And actually, I live in a high rise and I already drive the best car on my floor and the best in my family. So this has nothing to do with keeping up with others.

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      2. Speaking for myself, there was a time from 1990s to 2010 or so when it seemed every next turn of a model made it more powerful, better handling, roomier & safer, all with better fuel economy to boot. There were also the big technology must-have’s like navigation, built-in bluetooth, safety cameras/sensors, etc, sprinkled along the way that made driving better. I started leasing in the mid 90s, but then finally opted to buy in ’09.

        Since around 2010, I haven’t exactly figured out the new must-have’s aside from having an SUV/CUV so I opted to buy one as a 2nd car and held on to my CTS-V sedan w/manual. Oddly enough, the Caddy doesn’t feel like it’s lagging my 2017 SUV in terms of tech (and definitely not in terms of performance).

        Otherwise, I haven’t bought into the self-driving craze as a “must have” …and a full-size electric vehicle is still overpriced IMO. I’m guessing Apple Car Play and Google Auto will become one of those “must-haves” eventually when they allow more functionality

        … but yeah, I don’t see an urgency to upgrade as frequently any more.

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    2. What if the CT5 looked like you ELR? Would you then consider a Cadillac again? I am not in the market for a new car and I cant afford a Cadillac, But if all Cadillacs looked like the ELR they would certainly get my interest. That is one hot car.

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      1. I actually really liked the 2010 cts I used to drive. It was the perfect size and was unique. If the CT5 is like a new version of that then im all for it.

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        1. From the rumors I heard it is suppose to be in between the ATS and CTS. That where the current ATS should have been and the CTS should have stayed the same size or slightly larger than the old CTS. One of the reason the earlier CTS did well is because you got an almost E class size for the price of a C class. Then they bring out a CTS that is slightly smaller than the E class for almost the same price.Didn’t understand that. GM did something similar with the last generation Malibu. They gave it a little more style but took away interior room. I am greedy I want it all. Style, performance, room and value.

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