Chevrolet To Lower Starting Price Of Mid-Model Year 2017 Camaro By Adding New Base 1LS Trim18
A new base 1LS trim level will be added to the mid-model year 2017 Chevrolet Camaro to slot beneath 1LT.
According to GM’s order guide for the 2017 Camaro, the 1LS trim will be available in Coupe and Convertible body styles, while offering the 2.0L I-4 Turbo LTG as the standard engine, and the 3.6L V-6 LGX motor as an option. Both engine offerings will be mated exclusively with a six-speed manual transmission.
The 2017 Camaro 1LS will be priced from $26,900 with destination for the Coupe and $27,595 for the Convertible, according to CarsDirect. That compares to a $27,595 and $33,595 for the 2017 Camaro 1LT Coupe and 1LT Convertible, respectively.
The addition of the 1LS trim also results in the deletion of the manual transmission on the 2017 Camaro 1LT, which served as the base trim for the model year 2016 Camaro.
Check out the order guide for the 2017 Camaro, which details the features and options for the new 1LS trim, at this link: 2017 Camaro order guide (in PDF format).
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“Both engine offerings will be mated exclusively with a six-speed automatic transmission.”
Pretty sure you mean manual.
LS was badly needed, but I wonder what this will do to the LT1’s price. It may mean that the LT1 is also getting a major discount if you wanted an automatic LT1.
Exclusively manual, indeed.
The 1LT becomes priced at $27,595 for the coupe and $33,595 for the convertible.
The 2016 LTs were $26,695 for the coupe and $33,696 for the vert.
Basically, then, the 1LT becomes the same price as before, adjusted for the automatic.
I see a couple probable-glitches on this guide involving the 1LT with the V6, but really – this only adds up if you want to add incentives to 1LT/2LT and keep them from 1LS. The base prices didn’t change, just the designations.
I predict GM will offer steep dealer incentive offers on LT’s now – in order to upsell and make the cost for an Automatic V6, somewhere well south of $30k – which, is why nobody is buying 6th Gen to begin with.
If GM wants to keep the Camaro at these prices, they need to get the warranty up. Challenger with *lifetime* warranty add-on is $29,500 MSRP… with the V6 standard.
The reason the Dodge has such a warranty is because it is old and FCA has had many quality issues.
GM needs to focus on packaging and price.
That’s funny because I recall in an old post you said the opposite – that you agreed GM needed to improve its warranty offerings.
And lifetime warranties are pan-FCA. Any car south of an SRT can get the lifetime warranty (including R/T V8’s). It’s offered even on Fiat 124 Spiders and brand-new Cherokee’s. Both with very new-gen platforms.
While I would not have bought the Chrysler that I did without the lifetime warranty, FCA is no longer having the quality issues you describe. Its reliability rating over the past three years have climbed to average, and is class-competitive with GM.
FCA knows that there is a segment of customers that can be won over with lifetime warranties. With Pontiac gone, I’m one of those customers.
Find it as I never said that.
Find it as I never said that.
If you really were a student of the Auto industry you would know long warranties are generally a way to entice customers to cars they do not trust. In this case FCA with the large number of recalls and warranty issues they have reverted to this.
Most cars today can go 100K miles with no issue anymore. Sure a sensor or some odd failure can happen but generally once you get through the first initial years generally most cars are no problem.
As for not having issues you had better look at the many issues and recalls they have had. My in-laws new 300 has been in for several warranty issues and now the major shifter issues.
You can play fool some here but I can tell the difference from S#+t and Shinola here.
To make my case just look at the history of long warranties and how they have played out. Generally most long warranties are on cars that have been having a checkered past of quality and to gain trust in people buying they will use a longer warranty for a few years till volumes and trust is returned,
GM had used it like this, Chrysler has used it several times. Hyundai did after their junk of the 90’s.
But companies like Honda, Toyota and others that generally have had no issues with warranty issues and a questionable quality reputation they have never resorted to this.
Generally the people they win over are people who are insistent on buying cars from a company with a checkered past. Why do they take the risk’s because they are insistent on buying even with these issues or they are willing to take the risk to take advantage of major discounts on the same cars they are trying to move.
In your case you evidently know Chrysler has had issues as you state you would not have bought it with out it. So this proves you knew there are issues. Part two is you wanted this particular car enough to take the risk with the warranty. I would have done the same if I had wanted the same car.
Now on the Camaro or Mustang neither have had major warranty failures or recalls. I would not have an issue with either cars present warranty.
The extended warranty is like rubbing raw hamburger on the kid to make the dog play with him.
The bottom line is FCA has had issues and they are well know for these issues and they are just doing the warranty to get people willing to take the risk of buying their cars that normally would not under regular warranties that most other MFG offer.
As for what I posted about Warranties it is not my opinion but a well documented issue with automakers and has had many reports and stories to document the real reason.
If people think they are buying a good quality car they do not worry about the warranty being 5 years. Plain and simple.
The only and I mean only time GM should extend a warranty is if they are coming off a stretch where they have had a tone of issue and sales are down because people do not trust their quality. As of right not they have no real issues of this.
When they cut the warranties a little while ago I was one of the most vocal of saying there was no issue of this since they have had no major driveline issues.
Be more concise, please! Any time I was going to take to dig up your old comments was consumed by reading that. Seriously, it’s not worth the effort to talk to you when you post walls of editorial in a threaded comment. Start a blog, vent there.
Made my Point!
Prove it Wrong!
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Sorry if I think in complete thoughts. I cut these down to help you. LOL
Chris if you can back up and substantiate what you sale you could post it in a full page if you like. The problem is you can not back up what you posted.
I think it’s good to offer these additional models to increase sales and to match the competition. But on a personal note, if I were to purchase a Camaro, it would be a second car. And to me, getting a car like this is for one reason, the need and desire for a muscle car. That being said, I would have to buy at least the SS trim. What is the purpose of getting this car if it doesn’t have the big powerful V8.
I completely agree
Many will be commuter DD’s and rentals. My plan is to pick up a used 2016 or newer with low miles and in great condition, drive it as is while the LS engine is built to 525+ HP, then perform a swap. Obviously the clutch or torque converter will need to be addressed but it should be a pretty good sleeper to slay some muskrat GT’s and Camaro SS’s. Locally, very nice 15k mile or less v6 8spd auto 2016 Camaro’s can be had for $22K and 2.0t’s for less than that. This makes an LS swap very attractive for less than $30k all in.
want more sales put the biggest HP engine in the cheapest car like was done in the muscle car heyday. I remember the 270 HP 57 283 chevy in a 150 2 door coupe.
That just is not as easily done anymore.
The problem is Cheap cars are not all that cheap anymore and many cheap cars do not make money even if you sell a ton of them.
Options are where money is made.
In the past you had cheap cars because that is what most cars were. Today the average price of a car is $35,000. The added cost of emissions and the cost of building a car to meet all regulations has added much to the base models. The GM V8 is not the cheap cast iron carbed engine that it used to be that was sold in 90% of all Chevys. Today the numbers are down it is a very advanced engine and cost more than what a loaded 57 Chevy Belair convertible cost with Fuel Injection did complete.
Sorry but the dream is over as nothing is cheap anymore as even the cheap cars are expensive if you have not notices and that is a major problem for the automakers today. Why do you think they are looking into investing in ride sharing. They know people may not be able to buy cars individually in the future so like airplane owners do today they buy a share of a vehicle or the right to use one.
That is where this is all going. Times have changed some for the better some for the worse.
In other words it ain’t 1957 anymore and it will never be it again.
the car companies do not want the high HP engines in a lot of vehicles because it hurts their CAFE. the high HP 6.2 engines are only available in high dollar silver because if they were available in all models too many customers would buy them. same with the Camaros as the high HP 6.2 is only available in the SS model. the 6.2 engine does not cost any more to build than the base 5.3. the supercharged engine does cost more and a lot of buyers would pay the difference for the engine
The reality is the MFG want to get people to buy more smaller engines. HP can still be high but they want to just sell more smaller engines and cars.
Automakers have a choice to make in the future. They can kill the V8 engines and just stop offering them. Not a popular move.
Or MFG can take the V8 engines and offer them as they have and just offer them in higher priced models to limit sales naturally. Not popular but better than not offering them at all.
In the end we may only see the V8 in large trucks and the highest end Camaro and Corvette models at Chevy. The standard performance models will be turbo 4 and V6 models at best.
They are already going global with both models and will expand this over time so they can sell less models in one market and still be able to make a profit globally. This will mean the cars will take on a more GT flavor globally in an American way.
They will also make them smaller and lighter so the higher HP numbers to make them fast are not really needed and they will improve on MPG.
These cars are no longer the true Pony cars built on a Falcon and Nova platform anymore. What they are now are global players that are finding ways to survive in a climate hostel to their kind of performance.
The models and the way they are sold like the Camaro and Trucks will continue to change. They are out of Cylinders they can cut out so changes in other areas will have to happen.
It will be interesting to see how they keep performance alive in the future. Cars will be fast bit in different ways of getting there.
My recommendation is if you want a new v8 Performance car you may want to get one in the next few years as there is a very good chance you may not be able to afford it later.
On the bright side the older cars will show more retained value as there will be more demand for the used cars. At least till the government tried to pry them away from us.
Think I am kidding just look at the RPM issue with the EPA now where they are still trying to say it is illegal to remove the emission from a new car to even just race it off road. SEMA is fighting this now and it is just ridicules. It would end all forms of grass roots racing accept for older cars pre emission. Then I would expect them to go after this too.
The wack jobs at the EPA are doing this by saying the law was meant to be enforced that way. The truth is off road cars were never considered part of the emissions deal but the far left people at the EPA are now trying to legislate law by redefining it to suit their agenda and pass over congress and the house.
The good news is GM realizes they have a pricing problem with the Camaro. I await a real solution. This ain’t it.
wheres the ZL1 first drive? whats the hold up