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Breaking: Cadillac Reportedly Cancels Flagship CT8 Program

The market shift to crossovers and SUVs has taken a new victim. Autoline has received word that the flagship Cadillac CT8 program has been cancelled.

The news source tweeted the information to their official Twitter page, but we have yet to hear anything official from Cadillac itself on the matter. However, it doesn’t seem unlikely.

Cadillac has been busy investing rapidly into new crossovers and SUVs as analysts predict a more permanent shift to the body style for the entire market. The news also follows Cadillac’s move to scrap long wheelbase models for China, in favor of a global “right size.”

Concrete information on the Cadillac CT8 was never brought to light, but it was nearly a given the luxury sedan would ride on the Omega platform and offer an even longer wheelbase than the 2016 Cadillac CT6. According to our intel, rear seat passengers were to be emphasized in the flagship sedan.

Has Cadillac made a smart decision to allocate investment elsewhere, or has it made a dire mistake by foregoing a flagship sedan? The news asks more questions than it answers. Stay tuned as more information becomes available.

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  1. rye shelton

    Sad

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  2. Rye the second

    *ucking bean counters. Cadillac is cadifail now. Its dead. They cant even redesign their dated a&s garbage. Typical gm move. Im so tired of it. It is always a waiting game. Bmw is planning a sedan above the 7(besides of the x7), and these bums cant even make a car that can compete with the 7, inside and out. F.u.c.k them. F.uck their art and scince, fu.ck their lifeless tai lights and dated looking profiles. Fuckin’ dick.heads

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    1. Tim Kroeker

      Rye the Second,
      I feel you are holding back. You need to let go, show your emotions. Do not repress those inner feelings of regret and loss. Just let it come out, you will feel much better after it is all out there.

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      1. Raymondjram

        Yes, go and buy a 2016 Cadillac and a sledgehammer, then take out your anger by smashing it to bits. You will be relieved and feel better, and the dealer will make a new sale.

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    2. Bob Wercle

      Why are you holding back? Tell us how you really feel with a few more words next time. Lol

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    3. Megatron

      Rye: Thanks for telling it like it is! There are a few of us who want to see an american automaker succeed and reclaim lost prestige. Ford builds appliances, heavy sports cars and unattainable supercars. Chrysler has always had reliability issues. GM was the only one left poised to be world-class. And instead, they keep building appliances. Even the GM concepts suck – I would love to see a mid-engine cadillac supercars – even if it’s only in concept form. GM, you just keep letting us down.

      Tesla, you’re our only hope.

      On a separate note: GM is choosing to build SUVs over sedans? What a great new idea from the General! Let’s just classify them as light trucks and circumvent CAFE.

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  3. scott3

    Sad not to see a car like this but based on the market and coming regulations the SUV models will be more flexible regulation wise and more profitable.

    We may just see a SUV based on the Omega now vs. just a bigger sedan.

    Cadillac still needs to sort out the CTS and CT6 since they are nearly the same size.

    The fact is car sales are dwindling. Let’s face it Porsche and Bentley both have gone SUV as that is where the market is going.

    It has much more to do with what people are buying vs. bean counters.

    Coupes are dead and large sedans are dying.

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    1. Yes

      coupes are not dead and large sedans are nor dying… Look at the benz. (s-coupe, the upcoming e coupe). Bmw will make a model that will be above the 7. The upcoming continental, a7, panamera, cls, 6.. so on.
      So its not about coupes and sedans, its just cadillac that sucks. They cant even make a new design language…. forget about them….

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      1. scott3

        Don’t argue with me just look at the number and it will show you what the market is doing. This is far from my opinion.

        There are some larger sedans out there but most are high end and sell in moderate numbers.

        Coupe sell in very modest numbers accept for the Camaro and Mustang a and the numbers have been declining every year.

        The mid size segment with the Camry, Accord, Malibu and Fusion is only stable segment of sedan out there. The compact is next but it has slipped a little with the CUV sales climbing with a bullet.

        The CUV and SUV are the dominate models as of now. The larger sedans only live on high prices and global sales.

        What it is about is you do not understand the way the market is or how automakers work and you show it with your disappointment as you can not rationalize it. You know like the kid at toys r us that pitches a fit because he does not understand mom will not spend $200 on a toy that he will forget about in a week.

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    2. Win

      Sedans&coupes are not dead. And they are not planning.
      Vice a versa, z germans(and not only) are making more and more sedans and coupe jsut like the suv’es.
      So this is a stupid excuse for gm.

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      1. scott3

        I suppose you are going to say Wagons are coming back too…..with wood grain?

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      2. Pres

        To late Merkel’s Germs will be making Yugo’s with that great industrial migration of craftsmen. Buy your German stuff before it becomes what they did to Yugoslavia.

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    3. Curtnik

      I really don’t see a way to brighten it up, since all of Cadillac’s purported competitors are investing heavily in these segments. Mercedes Benz doesn’t even have a development budget for the S-Class, and has a vehicle in almost every segment. BMW wants to build a car positioned above the 7 Series, and created a few niches. I’m having a tough time believing it’s the market conditions when all of the competitors are keeping segments on the market.

      I would compare Cadillac to Lexus right now, but Lexus just rolled out a grand tourer to compete with the 6-series, and they announced a LS-based CUV to slot above the RX. Lexus and Hyundai are daring greater than Cadillac.

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    4. Alex Luft

      Scott, the CT6 and CTS are not “nearly the same size”. Huge difference between the two dimensionally inside and out to warrant the former be a full-size sedan shile the latter be a midsize.

      As for coupes being dead and starve sedans going away… just ask Mercedes and BMW about that, each of whom has rolled at least one of each over the last 24 months. The segments are only “dead” or “dying” to those who don’t compete or don’t compete well in those segments… such as Cadillac, Infiniti, Lexus, Acura, Volvo, Lincoln… in other words, the plethora of non-Tier 1 luxury brands.

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      1. scott3

        Alex I have seen both and I know the CT6 is a little larger but not that much larger. Add to it the similar styling can make them to the uninformed appear at a glance as very similar.

        The greater difference is the packaging inside the CT6 as it is laid out much better.

        I get your point but you even have to admit the size in the three sedans right now are pretty close and it would be nice if there was a little more space between them.

        As for the others they can add and take away what ever. Their situations is different from Cadillac. They are global models and brands at this point and they can spread that production out all over. Cadillac is still years away from being able to spread out that production as effectively.

        Right now their global world is North America, China and the Middle East. What would sell the best in all markets a world class SUV.

        What segment is growing faster globally? The SUV.

        What would fit these three markets as they all are embracing the again SUV.

        What does GM built the best of anyone The SUV.

        What Cadillac is making the most money and the most profits. The SUV.

        Cadillac is not abandoning the sedans but right now to better fit higher profits the SUV is going to play better to the markets they are in and they can dominate the others.

        Now once they build a SUV to dominate the others then they can refocus on the large sedan and be taken seriously.

        People do not pay attention to you even if you build the best car if you come in third. But if you build the best SUV and finish first it will reflect on everything you do.

        Work smarter not harder.

        Right now North America is the number one priority of Cadillac. If they can win and dominate here where will they? You let them build what this market wants and dominate then they can refocus on the other markets.

        Alex answer this. What would have a better chance of being successful at a higher price right now in North America for Cadillac. A world class SUV or a large sedan. Keep in mind we are in six figures here. Which one would sell the best and make the most money? Now we are speaking about Cadillac and not the others. What fits their abilities to dominate the best?

        As for sedans hell the Ford Taurus last year was down to just over 50,000 units. That car has declined every year for the last several. The Impala has declined too but not as bad. The LX Chrysler are old but even at fire sale rebates they are still in a steady decline.

        Most North Americans have moved to CUV and SUV models. Like I said above this is not my opinion as the numbers bear this out.

        What would I like. I would love to see a world class sedan from Cadillac. What do the number say and what would provide them with the best advantage in this market. The SUV.

        Now keep in mind this SUV may not be truck based either. We could very well see a Omega based platform made into a Porsche like Cayenne like model.

        Imagine a Cayenne like model but with out the weight of nearly 6,000 pounds the Porsche is? Toss in a TT V8 and The sales numbers would be great and the profits would be at least 18% or even more.

        You know the market well and you too still need to think outside that GM box we all are guilty of thinking in. These new cats in charge are not GM and they will be doing some things much different.

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        1. Captain Carl

          What’s the over/under that JdN and Uwe are still w/ GM past 2018?

          50/50? Whatever shares they got on the way in will have vested by then.
          Dealer body is growing tired. Management’s growing impatient.

          It’s going to be hard for the grand plan to take root, when things are starting to fray – from dealership agreements, to marketing, to slow product development.

          A lot of us would like to see this work. But things are looking a little wobbly these days.

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    5. Steve

      Large sedans will always be with us. Benz and BMW haven’t given up due to the fat profit margins. But everyone wants an SUV/cross over body style. Small, medium and large cars aren’t going away and the next oil spike will prove that. Meanwhile, Caddy needs a real flagship unless they want to be Lincoln.

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    6. Kim

      I currently have a 2002 DTS. The advertised dimensions for the CT6 are exactly the same. Should be way more roomy than a CTS. The local Cad dealer loaned me a CTS recently and it’s MUCH smaller! Now if Cadillac will just get the CT6 in the store so we can touch and drive we’ll know for sure.

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  4. Yes

    SAW the ct6 AT THE CAR SHOW. ALL I CAN SAY IS GARBAGE. CHEAP UNINSPIRED INTERIOR, DULL EXTERIOR.

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    1. scott3

      You may want to wait and just see what is true here first before anyone wets their pants.
      This could be wrong.

      Even if it is true you need to consider that what may be coming.

      We could be seeing a Omega based SUV that is done in a way like a Porsche Cayenne. These have been big sellers with big prices even at 6,000 pounds.

      Now think about a Omega platform sport SUV that would be as large as the Porsche but come in at 4500 pounds with a DOHC TT V8.

      Benz and BMW have nothing to challenge that.

      We are not just going to get some Chevy truck make over here.

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      1. Curtnik

        But… A few weeks ago, DeNysschen said the upcoming CUVs will be on C1XX scaled to different sizes.

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        1. scott3

          And a few weeks ago we had the CT8 coming too.

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  5. rye shelton

    Maybe the vehicle above the CT6 will be a more appealing design crossover….or sedans are just died.

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  6. John Hart

    Way back in 198something I saw the Honda Wagavon. I was like HEY… check THAT out. A car that was little taller than longer. My brother saw it, wanted it, but it was discontinued when he was ready. He instead got the Eagle Summit Wagon… which was all that the Wagavon was… but better. When it came time for me to replace my Honda Civic I got the similar Plymouth Colt Vista Wagon. That car humiliates the current Honda Fit for size and space. It’s not contest.

    Ever since that car I’ve never looked at sedans. Every time I do I’m like this is LOW and CRAMPED. I don’t need a full blown SUV tank (Tahoe, shudder) but even these little ‘taller’ cars beat their sedan cousins hands down. I mean I’d need someone to explain to my why I’d ever get a Verano over Encore. They’re basically the same car but one is easier to get into and roomier.

    What I’m trying to say is that I’m amazed it’s taken this long for sedans to fade. I was kinda getting it by 1986ish.

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  7. David

    ‘Cadillac scraps large flagship sedan in favor of SUVs and Crossovers’

    *Sigh*

    This world is not what it used to be.

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  8. Curtnik

    Ah.

    So first DeNysschen touts the C1XX platform for even more upcoming CUVS, now the true S-Class fighter gets cancled.

    What does that leave? A “flagship” sedan that while great, won’t win any comparison tests with what’s supposed to be Cadillac’s competitors. Crossovers that will, more or less, be re-bodied versions of lesser GM CUVs.

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  9. DRY ICE

    The CT8 is not dead it is under going a name change. It will be the ATE. Look for a announcement shortly.

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    1. GGG

      Dry, tell us what u know, please.

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      1. Alex Luft

        I think he’s being sarcastic… unfortunately.

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  10. Andrew

    Give them a top tier truck. They should offer a pickup placed above the Denali ‘Ultimate’. 3.0TT, 4.2 V8 TT, 6.2 LT4. Could have rolled it out prior to the Chevy and GMC fullsize trucks make the switch to aluminum body panels.

    MRC suspension with adjustable ride heights, make it the truck flagship for extensive aluminum body-work and multimaterial frame, offer 2+2 seating as an option, give it all the tech Cadillac has in offer in the CT6 and all the tech they have on offer for the truck lineup. Full sliding rear window, full pana-roof with sliding sun roof, power running boards, dem rims, top leather and suedes with lots of interior colour configurations.

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    1. Curtnik

      I would give you a thumbs-down, but I wouldn’t put it past Cadillac. Heck, why don’t we look for an announcement saying Cadillac’s subcompact sedan is going FWD/AWD?

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      1. Andrew

        Can’t thumbs-down because it would make a ton of money and fund more low production offerings.

        Transaction prices of trucks have been steadily on the rise, and luxury truck offerings are extremely hot items which leads to those higher transaction prices. Huge profit margins on trucks, even more in the luxury segment. If trucks and SUVs make Cadillac wildly profitable, it allows for them to build things like a mid-engine super car, and continue to build the V Series models. With those huge profit margins maybe they can revisit the CT8 in 5 years time, by then the market may have shifted back to wanting sedans.

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  11. Tim Kroeker

    Wow. So many positive comments.

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    1. Curtnik

      We’re a bunch of Cadillac fans who just found out that the CT6 will be the best the Cadillac can do indefinitely. We already know most of the upcoming CUVs, save for maybe the top models, will be FWD budget-luxury compromises.

      Now we’re hearing that they won’t strike at the crown jewel of the luxury car world and offer a world-class full-size sedan. That said, now Cadillac’s closest competitor will be the smallest in the class, and it will clash in price with the CTS.

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      1. Tim Kroeker

        Curtnik, you know, had this news come out before they blitzed the guardrails of design I would have agreed heartily with you. Growing up, I collected every Cadillac brochure from the mid-sixties on. I was a severe Cadillac-aholic. Then they murdered the brand with fwd 80s trash, and everything thereafter was a mockery of what made the brand great.

        The new design motif is good, no question, and it looks deadly awesome, but alas, it is NOT Cadillac. It is not stately, it is not refined, it is not eloquent and elegant, it is not a statement, it is not statesman-esque, it is nothing that made Cadillac what all of us should think of when we hear the name. Most of all, it is not American. There is nothing of the current design that causes one to aspire to wealth.

        Frankly, if what they were thinking with their halo product was more of what we already have, then so much the better that it was canned. Maybe after they have spun off everything to the new Escalade brand they will approach the design from the angle of making a product that is suited to a name and not some stupid, meaningless collage of incoherent, unremarkable, completely drab, and utterly un-intriguing alpha-numeric nonsense. I noticed that Lincoln returned with “Continental”. I am not a Ford fan, but just like I am not a huge Bernie fan (I would take him everyday and twice on Sundays before I would take Trump or Cruz) I would take the Continental over at CT6 (whatever the heck that is).

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        1. Curtnik

          Tim, I get what you’re saying, but Cadillac’s exterior design is the least of its problems. Cutting edge is a more fitting description of the design language. “Swoopy” doesn’t communicate stately, it communicates “elegant”, which Mercedes-Benz does better than anybody else. “Aggressive” best describes BMW’s design language, Audi is defined by “understated”. Lexus went from “conservative” to “polarizing” why? They weren’t happy with conservative, inoffensive styling. Cadillac should be happy with having “cutting edge” to themselves, lest they end up like Lexus and screwing up royally.

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    2. Doug

      Got a bunch of people who think a car that will sell a couple thousand tops and lose money is a better investment than a suv/cuv that will still in the tens of thousands and create big profits.

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  12. Danny J

    Give the nerdy castrated consumers what they want!!! CUV’s for all!!!
    C’mon Cadillac you are embarrassing your damn self.
    CUV? Get that $h!t outta my driveway.

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    1. Curtnik

      Calling them nerdy would imply they’re knowledgeable. How much you wanna bet these consumers think ‘CUV’ and ‘SUV’ can be used interchangeably? Or that their CUV isn’t nearly as rugged as it looks?

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      1. Danny J

        I hear you Curtnik, I was just using the word one way.
        Now I like the nerds that are into EV’s. now that don’t bother me.
        It’s the damn mindless person that like you said “thinks a CUV & a SUV” are the same.
        And hell yeah those CUV’s are not at all as rugged as they think they look! Ha that was good!

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        1. Curtnik

          Heck, us auto enthusiasts are one of the oldest and largest collective of nerds out there.

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  13. Dr. Fatso

    ummm…..what just happened? and why?
    I am getting sick to stomach.

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  14. Dan

    Something is not making sense here. Just yesterday we here that cadillac wants a CT9 and XT9 in the ultra luxury range, now we hear that the CT8 is dead. There has to be some wires crossed with this story. GM and most of its exes including stated over a year ago this car was coming. All I can say is this is a big mistake. As nice as the CT6 is, its still not a full on flagship car.

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  15. matt

    first UNC looses at the buzzer then this… I think I need a drink….. my feelings are being destroyed this last 24 hours

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  16. J

    Now why can’t this be an April fools joke?!!! It’d sure stir the pot up for some fun conversation and laughs!

    This is unacceptable by Cadillac!!! This whole “Daring Greatly” ad campaign looks to be pointless, and is yielding very little appeal in the brand! And with no proper flagship sedan to showcase Cadillac’s ability to effectively compete in the full size luxury sedan segment, there’s really nothing to look forward to with this brand! It’s been approximately 13 years since there have been rumors of an ultra luxurious Cadillac sedan: since the 2003 Cadillac Sixteen graced the Detroit auto show! And Cadillac hasn’t even come close to producing anything like it! I don’t wanna hear it regarding the need for time to develop!!! This brand has been given over a decade and $12 billion to start fresh!! And it appeared as though the brand was heading in the right direction! The development of the Alpha and Omega platforms were some of greatest things to hit the market ever!!! And now you’re telling me Cadillac is refusing to direct these resources to build a vehicle that can effectively showcase the fruits of their efforts, and serve as the epitome of GM engineering, performance and luxury?!!!

    This brand is a joke!! This is why the Germans will continue to dominate the market! They’re not afraid to dare greatly!!! Neither is Hyaundai!!! My interest in Cadillac is officially dead if this news turns out to be true!!!!!

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  17. rye shelton

    sedans are dying and they don’t have a future….crossovers are the future.

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    1. Danny J

      And the future looks like $h!t…I’m so tired of seeing these tools driving around in their automotive appliances.
      When I take my lady out we drive around in my nice Sedan. Not some damn grocery -getting egg shaped eyesore CUV.

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      1. Doug

        Or maybe, and this may shock you, people don’t like sedans and find them as stupid as you find cuvs.

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    2. ex-Holden

      You’re not telling us Aussie ex-Holden guys anything! We found that out the hard way. Sorry you’re just finding that out now but at least you’ll have some decent SUV’s unlike the rubbish we had to deal with.

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  18. Dave Mas

    I don’t understand this move from Cadillac.
    The higher income consumers are the ones that purchase Sedans and even coupes. Cadillac has been positioning itself to be the GM division that is prestige/luxery/ Mercedes and BMW fighting territory. They are courting these customers….so what’s the deal with this decision?
    This might be a grave mistake. If they are going to include more FWD CUV’s in their lineup and then get rid of a Large Flagship sedan. Their image has been steadily improving, so go for it…Throw some caution to the wind.
    GM has played it smart since the bankruptcy but it appears they are getting too conservative in some areas with the Cadillac & especially the Buick division….this is not a good move.

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  19. chevyman

    Simmer down fellas. This is just an immature attempt by autoline to get Cadillac to confirm said CT8. They have never officially confirmed it. Now Cadillac has to say something about these ridiculous allegations. We should have more concrete information shortly.

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  20. Curtis

    Maybe they see that all the cars in the lineup will need to grow in size to add an entry level model at the bottom and the next CT6 will just get larger making a CT8 redundant but I also question why GM put all this money into Omega to only have one vehicle on the platform.

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  21. Dan

    In the artical it says there was never concrete evidence of the CT8. Well when you have top GM brass like Johann, Mark Ruess and even President Dan Amannn all saying the car was approved and on its way, that sounds like pretty good evidence to me. I was thinking along the lines of what Curtis just said, where the next CT6 becomes larger flagship in its next gen. Or the Ct6 becomes a CT8 later on. Which I think might be another possibility.

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  22. johnls_39

    I’m taking this story as a grain of salt until something official come from Cadillac. If the story proves to be true, it would be a perfect opportunity for Cadillac to add a long wheelbase for the CT6 with more opulent interior, technology and luxury this car currently lacks.

    However, this story, some on here pointed out, does not make sense because Cadillac is planning a $300K ultra luxury sedan and SUV in ’27-’29. So how can you skip producing the CT8? This vehicle is more of an indicator and a clutch for the ultraluxury model to be readily accepted by the consumer in regard of glowing image because the CT8 will instill in the consumer mindset which will make it easily welcome for anyone willing to spend the money more than quarter of a million on CT9.

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  23. Cory Young

    oh for fck sake. I’m done with cadillac and their shit. If you havent made up your mind on something, just stfu. Everything with them is a big build up to just be let down. Its old! Millennials don’t want to play these games. There are other options, if you cant get your shit together people will and do go else where. You need something to go head to head with the s class sedan and coupe, not more excuses.

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    1. NewQ

      I’m 100% with you. I very excited for the CT6, but the back and forth between flagship/not-a-flagship status, and the delay delay delay in getting it to market just took it’s toll.

      I picked up a BMW 7-Series instead, but I kept my eyes open for the “real” Cadillac flagship and was very excited for what it could bring. Now, Cadillac has nothing I want to buy.

      This is not the first time it’s been on-again-off-again either.

      Wake me up when you have a real product in the showroom, ready to compete at the highest flagship level.

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  24. Jonathan

    Come on people this is not an official announcement. This is still a rumor . Cadillac has officially not said this is true yet . Rumors of it’s cancellation have come out before. Remember those rumors that their would be no more V8 Cadillac’s yet we have the CTS-V and the all new V8 twin turbo engine that is a Cadillac exclusive. It’s only still a rumor . From a financial standpoint it makes no sense to build a single model on the Omega platform.

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    1. Curtnik

      At this point, I wouldn’t leave anything off the table.
      >FWD CUVs
      >No CT8

      What else? More FWD, no more original Cadillac platforms?

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    2. European

      Well, there still is no sight of NA V8.

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  25. rye shelton

    Cadillac will probably develop higher end platforms that will replace Alpha and Omega platforms and they would probably underpin something besides sedans in 2024 or 2025…to me the Omega is a complete failure.

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  26. rye shelton

    All we are getting is a big boring ATS.. don’t buy it at all.

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    1. European

      ATS definitely isn’t boring, but it’s the (current) bottom of the line-up. They’re missing the top.

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  27. rye shelton

    Cadillac stinks!!!

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  28. European

    They want to compete with Mercedes, BMW and Lexus and not have a proper flagship sedan? If this is true, Cadillac’s worth has surely dropped in my eyes.

    …I’m sure they’re very sorry now! 😀

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  29. OMEGATALON

    If the CT8 was yet a bigger version of the CT6; then this move to cancel the program and use their financial resources towards the development of more CUVs makes sense especially if it includes a lightweight 3-row CUV built on the Omega platform.

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  30. rye shelton

    Ya a CUV would makes much more sense than a sedan….Sedans aren’t so hot anymore….it would be great if they can build a large CUV that would be lighter and handle like small cars and not look so stubby….maybe lower height crossovers.

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  31. Alexander Carabitses

    Call me crazy, but I that this is a good move. With the CT8 coming, it was very unclear what the CT6’s role would be. A car that’s the size of an S-Class that doesn’t actually compete with the S-Class sounds stupid to me, and having a car much larger that the S-Class to compete against a regular S-class is also pretty dumb. Now Cadillac can focus on perfecting the CT6, creating higher end trims (beyond Platinum) and making the CT6 the true flagship car that it deserves to be. It would be stupid to introduce two stop-gap flagship sedans (the other being the XTS), and invest so much money in them, only to phase them out after a single generation. It’s ashamed that the CT8 isn’t coming, but in the end, I think it’s all for the better

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  32. bobp

    I believe that Cadillac may still build a larger sedan. However, it should be a high end luxury car, which would have low volume expectations. Maybe $130,000+.

    I look at Mercedes and BMW, and they are having trouble with trying to sell large luxury sedans as demand moves toward luxury Crossover/SUV’s.

    The CT6 still has very good potential as a fun luxury vehicle to drive in comfort. Adding a light weight V8 would move the CT6 further upscale.

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  33. Bob Wercle

    All you whiners should take a look at the numbers. The high end sedan car market has collapsed and Tesla with the model S absolutely dominates it. Introducing a car in that segment, no matter how good, would be a complete failure. With the numbers in front of them, this was an easy business decision.

    The whole market has gone to two box, toasters on wheels.

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  34. GM PDT

    This is a HUGE disapointment for the luxury brand of GM . You have to wonder just how far in the development stage it got before they pulled the plug . Wasted money . So much for the S-class fighter . Initially that was going to be the CT6 and Johan had to back away from that . Mercedes , Audi , BMW , Volvo and even Lexus just kicked Cadillacs @ss.
    They are not going to forgo the car market , but are expanding their portfolios into CUV’s . They will end up with a vehicle in $amn near every segment out there .
    Cadillac is putting all their resources into one basket and that again is a HUGE gamble . The future of CUV’s are becoming more car based , or tall wagons . Just look at what is coming from the Tier-1 automakers .
    Cadillac now will never be able to play in the ultra-luxury segment , or Tier-1’s . They are basically the Chevy of luxury cars . Don’t be suprised to see the XTS soldier on longer than what we were told .
    You also have to wonder how this “new ” program that was just announced yesterday is going to change how Cadillacs dealerships feel after learning that the flagship they were promised has been canceled . Why invest more dollars into the dealership experience . When they can continue to go on as they are . To many promises made to trust in what products they will see .
    The ELR dead , the ATS they can hardly give away , the CTS has a refresh coming in June ( hopefully ) ,the XTS is getting long in the tooth , A new XT5 ( thank goodness ) , the CT6 had better launch correctly and the Good ‘ol Escalade’s sales are flat . Oh, and the ” gone fishin’ ” sign is up until 2020 . WTF . 🙁 ,

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  35. fred wood

    Like Buick, Cadillac seems to be in retreat mode! Image and prestige are required for any Brand to excel

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  36. Roger Klyn

    Caddy should have changed it’s logo sooner!! lol g

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  37. Barry

    Why are people soooooo tough on the internet..If you are not a fan of General Motors or Cadillac why are you even looking on this site.I own a Cadillac ATS thats why im here.I do not own a BMW or an Audi and that why im not there.And the people that complain the most are the ones that would have no intentions of buying a CT8 or could not afford the first payment regardless…

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    1. Curtnik

      I’m looking at this site because I’m a GM fan. I’m a GM fan because not only do I come from a GM family that worked in factories in the rust belt, I’m over 6 feet tall. I find GM vehicles to have some of the roomiest interiors in their classes. I’m fully aware that the best room I can get comes from a full size sedan (or coupe).

      That said, the only reason I’m not pulling off the lot in a CT6 right now is because as a 23 year old, the best I can hope for is a used model. I’d love to retire in a CT8 and/or CT7 coupe. Can’t we just be fans who want to see the underdog win? How can we keep rooting for the underdog when they keep forfeiting when the going gets tough?

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  38. rye shelton

    Sedans have the most cramped interiors.

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  39. alan

    I see a awd shooting brake type sedan/suv/cuv type of vehicle with 10 speed auto high hp with maybe some battery assist

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  40. Dangee

    Chevy, buick, and GMC Are giving military discounts, what’s wrong with Cadillac ?

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  41. rye shelton

    Sedans are falling out of favor….I think it’s a good move that they cancelled the CT8…the CT8 would of probably be a further stretched boring CTS any way so it would be smart if they wait another 5 years and then develop something better and more appealing…something other than a sedan.

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  42. Michael

    PATHETIC.

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  43. scott

    Why do people obsess about the size of the interior of a car? Especially the back seat? How much room do you people need?

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