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Joe Biden’s Former 2005 Cadillac STS Up For Sale: Craigslist Find

We already know that U.S. Vice President Joe Biden is a huge Corvette fan. He owns a ’67 of his own, and talked briefly about his love for the 2015 Corvette Z06 during his visit to the North American International Auto Show in Detroit earlier this year. It turns out the left-leaning politician is a bit of a Cadillac fan too, and thanks to an ad that popped up on Craigslist in Delaware, you can now own his former 2005 Cadillac STS.

According to the ad, Biden leased the STS from 2005-2008 prior to his election as Vice President. It’s fully loaded, complete with the V8 Northstar engine, all-wheel drive and a Bose stereo system. The seller is asking $15,000 for the car, which has an unspecified number of miles. That’s a little more than you’d normally pay for an STS of this sort, but  it isn’t a bad price for a piece of presidential history.

So how does the seller, Jeff Finkle, know it’s Biden’s old ride? According to him, the Bluetooth system still had the numbers of three of Biden’s family members programmed into it.

“At first I didn’t know,” Finkle told the Delaware News Journal. “Until the Bluetooth in the car had Beau, Hunter and Jill’s Washington, Philadelphia and other important numbers in it.”

He also said information on the warranty from Delaware Cadillac indicated the car used to belong to Biden.

If you’re a Biden fan, or are just in the market for an STS in decent shape, check out the ad right here.

Sam loves to write and has a passion for auto racing, karting and performance driving of all types.

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  1. Why didn’t GM put the 2005 Bonneville on the Sigma platform? You could have had loads of fun with a car like that! You could put a 2.8t or 4.4sc in there without worrying about torque steer..

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  2. Average Joe’s car.

    I have half a mind to buy it. LOL!

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  3. EvanG, they did with Sigma 1.5… Aka Zeta. Better known as the Pontiac G8.

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    1. While the G8 was a good car, it wasn’t a “true” Pontiac. It was a Holden imported from Australia. The Bonneville GXP looked a lot better than any G8 and had more potential.

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      1. The only “true” Pontiac since the late 90s was Solstice. Bonneville was basically a platform-mate of Lucerne and DTS. A front-wheel drive rebadge.

        I’m not saying Pontiac couldn’t succeed with rebadges nor am I an enemy of rebadging. But the G8 belonged as a Pontiac, and continuing the Bonneville under a FWD platform would have not sold any better – in fact, under economic pressure, sport buyers had plenty of newer options like Charger to lean RWD.

        That’s something the new Lacrosse/Epsilon2-based Impala is learning the hard way.

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        1. Dude, you do not even know what rebadging is! Do you not remember the Sky? The Solstice was rebadged. The Cobalt/G5, Aveo/G3, Matrix/Vibe, Commodore/G8, and Equinox/Torrent were all rebadged. The G6, Grand Prix, and Bonneville were the last true Pontiac vehicles that only showed what more they could improve on. Does the Bonneville even look like the Lucerne or DTS? That’s how you can tell if it is rebadged or not (BTW, the answer is no). The Bonneville didn’t have to continue on the FWD Platform. Pontiac/GM could have switched it over to the Sigma instead…

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          1. Your facts are way off. Solstice was the origin of the Kappa platform. Lutz and Wagoner tasked Pontiac with the development of Kappa.

            Sky came much later. First Saturn had their own design concept (which was unveiled alongside the Nomad Kappa Hatchback concept). Critics panned it, so Saturn embraced the Opel/Vauxhall concept and that came at the same time that GM was strategically linking up Opel and Saturn.

            The notion that Solstice was a rebadge of Sky is completely, totally, one-hundred-percent incorrect. Kappa was built for Pontiac first, with the notion that Kappa would parrot Cadillac’s Sigma as a division-leader for the platform.

            And I say this as a Sky owner – never owned Solstice, but I plan to someday.

            Pick up The Pontiac Solstice Book and read how Kappa was born – you could use a history lesson.

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          2. P.S. Your “Bonneville could have been Sigma” shows how you misunderstand the history of those two platforms. Holden used Sigma as the original template for Zeta. There was no Sigma development after 2008. Sigma became Zeta.

            Sigma II is where Detroit imported the Zeta improvements back to Cadillac. This is why Sigma II shares more in common with Zeta than the original Sigma.

            Thus, when you wish that GM had made a new Bonneville under Sigma, they basically did with the G8 using Zeta. It also permitted GM to boast that Sigma is exclusive to Cadillac which was something Cadillac really pushed for.

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  4. I remember seeing the Holden Kappa. It was too good to toss out and the Saturn concept was too bad to keep.

    You are also so correct on the Sigma and Zeta.

    The real issue with the Zeta and Sigma is they were not as flexible as GM had hoped. At one time they had hoped to make them very flexible to provide a full range of RWD for all of GM and but cost limited their range.

    GM was able to invest more development money into the Alpha and it has achieved what they have wanted to do in the first place. I am not saying the Zeta or Sigma are bad but they were just less than what GM really wanted originally.

    Scott Settlmire explained this once back a few years ago.

    But then again GM has for a long time has development and refinement issues due to the limited funding on many models over the years. Scott pointed this out on the F body how they always came up short on the interiors as they normally ran out of money after doing the engine and suspension packages. As he said this is why your windows may not always go up in a 4th gen. Cheap regulators.

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    1. Actually the Torana TT36 concept (the Holden one) came long after the Nomad concept. Holden’s was rejected because they deviated way too much from Kappa to get the green light. At that point, GM had already realized that Kappa was too different to go alongside other vehicles at a plant from a different platform.

      Holden did the TT36 because Chevrolet’s Nomad was rejected, but GM wanted something in the RWD hatch department, and Pontiac was selling Solstices very well – they wanted a RWD Vibe, basically. It played well into Lutz’s plan to make the G6 RWD and dump the G3 and G5 – for an all-RWD Pontiac lineup.

      What frustrates me is that Alpha has met all of GM’s goals here – why aren’t they leveraging it, pulling a Pontiac and delivering affordable great RWD cars today.

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      1. Shhh! You have not seen the last of what all the Alpha will do.

        The Torana was really the roots of the Alpha. That is where the seed was planted but GM did not have the money to do it. GM really wanted the Alpha 10 years ago. So they remained with the Zeta. and updated it as it was the cheaper root.

        I can remember Settlemire speaking about the things they wanted in a RWD Camaro when they were pushing for the new car and all most all his points are met with the new platform. In a way the 2016 Camaro is what they really wanted in the 5th gen and with no compromises. This car will have the weight right, the suspension right and the refinement that we have never seen in a Camaro ever before. The real key will be the refinement. Just think what Mark Steilow could do with a new suspension on a Camaro vs. just fixing the old one he was given to tune. A clean sheet of paper will open may opportunities to do things they could not have done any other way. Cadillac’s investment in the platform will give Chevy things they would never have invested in too.

        They are not done with the Alpha, The Omega will be used for more than just a couple vehicles and they still would like a sub Alpha RWD but with the slow sales of the other small RWD coupes right now they are having a time making a business case for one. I believe GM could do it with the proper Eco Turbo but you still have to sell the higher ups to green light a deal like this as it will not be cheap and they will need to make sure the get their return on investment and still make a profit.

        Just to give you an idea of where all this started the TT 3.6 V6 just arrived and we saw it years ago but they just did not have the money to do it. Many other things to come are ideas or things they wanted but are now just able to pull them off.

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        1. I’ve heard it all – and it sounds great. Pop Pontiac back inside Buick dealerships as a sub-brand. GM: Less talk – make it happen.

          The new Charger is amazing, and Chrysler/Fiat will have smaller, cheaper RWD cars on that new RWD global platform. Maybe even a bi-fuel CNG unit too. I may be loyal, but loyalty has its limits, and a $27,000 RWD Charger Bi-fuel is about it.

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