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Mailbag: Jack Thinks The New Vette Is “An Ugly Car”

This article is part of the GM Authority Mailbag series, where the GM Authority Crew features and replies to your questions, comments, and observations.

This one comes to us from Jack immediately following the unveiling of the 2014 Corvette Stingray:

The new Vette – What an ugly car! It may be fast and handle well, but it looks like the previous version on steroids. Pimped out with detracting detailing and unsightly body lines (those horrible body lines up the hood… ugh) that say anything but sleek. And I love Corvettes. I have a 1960, two fuel-injected ’64 convertible’s, two 427 roadsters and a 91-six speed convertible. But I won’t ever desire the new model.

Jack — you are, of course, more than entitled to your own opinion about any vehicle, including the all-new 2014 Corvette Stingray. Personally, however, I disagree with your assessment — as do most others, judging by our preliminary reactions poll.

If it matters, here’s my reaction to seeing the C7 Corvette (in photos and in person here in Detroit): it’s anything but “ugly”… rather, it’s beautiful and awesome. I liked (and continue to like) the Corvette C6 and respect it for its capability and value. But I never really felt like I had to have one.

After seeing the C7, however, I simply must have the new model. For me, this change of heart has everything to do with the looks; heck, even if the C7 utilized the components and technology of the last-gen model, I would still be salivating for the Stingray. That is to say that the design of the C7 is not only appealing to me (the C6 was “appealing”), but it’s gorgeous, sexy, aggressive, and passionate (not to mention functional) — qualities that any Vette should be proud to possess.

In the end, whether you like the C7 is entirely up to you; but from a marketability standpoint, I expect the Corvette Stingray to attract significantly more people than it will detract.

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  1. tell jack to shove it…….i like the lines of the new vette, as he said like the c6 on steroids…..that retro look is getting played out for one….this is nice to see them reach out side and try something new……he will get used to it….give him a few days of just staring at the picture and realize that is a nice design….he will be iight

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    1. I like the new design a lot, but I agree with Jack on the hood. All of the lines are good on the front except that one pesky stripe on the center of the hood, because it isn’t carried through any other part of the car, it’s just random.

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      1. I agree that the line does not carry throughout the car, but I think it balances out the other lines on the hood. And honestly, there is so much glass on the back, it might have looked out of place on that tiny little trunk lid.

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      2. I am glad I am not the only one who feels this way. The rest of the lines on the hood are great, but the center one just seems out of place.

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    2. The Vette is gorgeous- he must have been thinking about the new Silverado- it’s so ugly from the front -Chevy spent millions of dollars try to sell us on the tailgate

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  2. Of course, styling is subjective – but it’s pretty clear (to me at least) that the C7 has very little to do with the C6, style wise. Exterior, interior, I see nothing of the old car – could be my Corvette tinted glasses, but C7 is simply stunning. Park this car on any average street in America (or the World for that matter) and watch the people line up to get a look.

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    1. Jack, you are aloud to have a Opinion. I also have one and like everything I can find about the C8s.
      First ordered the COUPE when announced
      When Convertible was I changed. Looking forward to it.
      You have a great day Jack.

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  3. I think it’s interesting to hear Jack, somebody who has a whole garage full of Corvettes, give this new one a “thumbs down”? I think in order to get the attention of a younger buyer, they had to make it a bit over the top? In reality, they need to sell more than 1000-1200 Corvettes per month and I’m guessing this one will do the job.

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  4. I disagree somewhat. It does look a bit “busy” as a friend of mine said to me this morning. This is due to the black air vents that should be body coloured. Otherwise I wouldn’t necessarily call it stunning or class-leading in the looks department, but it’s a step up from what prevailed before. If you want to see a busier, uglier car, head to your Nissan dealer and ask to see the GTR. Thats aid, the red car that they used at the unveil did it no justice. The pewter or the black would have done the job better.

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  5. I’ve appreciated the Corvette styling over the years, but just have never been into this type of sports car. Without that biased mindset, I must say this is a beautiful evolution of the Stingray and a nice flagship model for the Chevrolet division – as well as a solid mark for GM. They can still build a world class vehicle when they set their mind on a target.

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  6. I agree with Alex; this is the first car I’ve seen offered by an American company that my id screamed: “YOU MUST HAVE THIS CAR AT ANY COST!!!”.
    Of course, my wallet, bank account and driving record just chuckled and replied: “Maybe you’ll get a nice 1/32nd RC replica for Christmas if you can go all summer without a(nother) driving infraction.”

    Seriously, I could own this car and not worry about getting chest hair implants to fit in. I love it.

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    1. CTS-V Coupe was the first American car that made me scream that, though I think Im screaming louder for the corvette , unfortunately , the speakerphone of reality always scream louder. 🙂

      Other than the rear end, which I will probably come to love down the road, its beautiful.

      In regards to Jack, there will always resistance from the older generation when the next gen of such an iconic car comes out, Im sure sales will go up dramatically despite many previous owners being turned off, not to mention I think this corvette will be sold all around the world.

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  7. This would be a great 40th birthday present from my super awesome, gorgeous, extremely talented, wonderful, did I mention gorgeous wife. Hope she reads this. 🙂

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  8. Might as Well tell him to go see it in person then if he still has the same reaction then will talk

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  9. The old adage applies here: You can please some of the people some of the time, but you will never please all of the people all of the time. You can tell Jack is a retro kind of guy. There is nothing wrong with that, but one should be honest with one’s self when looking at a technology driven/modern car.

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    1. That’s the problem I have with retro. The stigma of being atiquated preceeds the car. GM had to revolutionize the C7 or it would look like it was there only to echo cars from the 60’s and 70’s.

      The 21 century is only going to be here once, and there is nothing wrong with change if it raises the profile of the car, the brand, and the company to reflect the age in which we live in.

      The kind of statement GM wants the C7 to say is technolgically advanced, world beating super car. They couldn’t do that by continuly apeing styling cues from the past while compeditors get acolades for their appearence.

      Jack is likely a stick in the mud, and probably wouldn’t buy a car if it didn’t have factory whitewalls.

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    2. it’s not his age – i’m 23 & i’ll never like/own a C7 Stingray.

      maybe if it looked like &/or incorporated more of these designs i would change my mind;
      http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164281

      but, i feel they dropped the ball completely on this design. it looks like a Nissan GT-R, Ferrari F12 Berlinetta, & C6 Corvette had an orgy, & this C7 Stingray was the resulting child.

      the new taillights are a step in the right direction, but the rest of the car falls short IMO. i feel as though they tried too much & got lost in the swirl of ideas – blacking-out some panels was a big mistake too. it’s okay, but nothing mind-blowing to me – not like the C5 & C6 generation IMO.

      i’ll definitely take a C5 Z06 or C6 Corvette over this design.

      the real interest this C7 Stingray design gave me was for the C8 generation. haha

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  10. I agree with Jack, a lot of nice elements, in fact way too many. A crazy quilt of 21 century car design cues. I love Vettes and I love Chevy but this my friends is at best a placeholder until we get a firm hand on the design rudder and the will to let designers follow their hearts.

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  11. And one more thing there was a Stingray in 69 also. so Chevy you can update your poster of Stingrays.

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  12. Jack, John Murphey; Ru kidding me… Let thecar designers do there jobs and shut up… This Vette is stunning period… And is the right design for the times…

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    1. Time will sort it all out. Didn’t mean to rain on your parade. Let’s see what Cadillac does with the same innereds.

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  13. People can say what they want, it won’t make me like it any less.. I think Corvette will be class leading not only in the looks department but in performance also, and especially on the track. The design of the car is great and it all comes together. To me I don’t care for the looks of some European cars, they are too plain and you pay a premium price that is way out there..

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  14. Haha did anyone else notice the Camaro’s new rear view mirror on the Corvette? Looks great, though I suppose it would on any car. 🙂

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  15. If he says this is an ugly car, why don’t he say that to the Corolla Furia Concept?? Props to Toyota for making Pikachu as realistic as possible LOL

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  16. The front and side views look pretty good, but the rear end view is absolutely dissappointing given all the alternatives they could have come up with. The two-tone blocky grey bottom and the back angles just don’t flow together at all. Rear tail lights look too camaroish and cheap. Looks like some college kids designed the rear end. What a shame.

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  17. I own a C6 and this new C7 design does not appeal to me at all. I especially do not like that rear end. I do not like the lines on the fron of the hood (it just doesn’t look as aggressive as the c6), and the same goes for the fron bumper. The lines are way too similar to that of a Nissan GTR or Skyline. They obviously borrowed some elements of the new Viper for the headlights. I like the rear window, however I can easily see it become a serious issue for blind spots (where as with the C6s, C5s, C4s, and the later C3s had an all glass surrounding rear window – thus eliminating the blind spot issue). However, I suspect GM is incorporating technology such as a “back-up” camera and proximity sensors to remedy that problem (technology that should’ve been available on the C6s). I don’t mind the cowl-induction setup on the hood. Although the black decorations that come with it are a no-go. I give this new design a 5/10. GM could have easily come up with something better and I am shocked that they chose this one. This car looks like one of those concept designs, that were too crazy and abstract to what a Corvette is, and should’ve been shelved and saved for only the next Corvette album book that you would find at your local book store. Very disapointed. At least I know that I will be owning the last good looking Corvette that GM has made. I hope the C8 will redeem this Vette enthusiast.

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  18. I hate the new Vette. Rectangular tail lights on a Vette? Yuck.
    It looks like 20 designers each had an idea, independent of one another, and they all just tacked their idea on. No subtle lines, and sexy curves. I have been a Vette guy all my life and have owned 6 or 7 of them. I won’t own one of these.
    Hate it, just hate it,

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  19. I totally agree with Jack. It does look way nicer than the C6, but it’s basically the C6 on steroids. I know we all really like this car – I would LOVE to have one – but that’s just because it’s a vette. They had a chance here to revolutionize the design. Instead I feel they just evolved the previous gen with sharper lines and a non-curved rear windshield. Also, they borrowed the taillights from the camaro and slanted them. It’s very un-vette. I printed a black and white picture of the new vette from the front/side view to put near my desk at work – from a few feet back you can’t even tell it’s a new vette. It looks like a less advanced version of the f12 berlinetta design. Feels more plastic-y and has a tuner look. My bet is they’ll fix up all those unsightly holes and shapes with some finesse in the refresh in another 4 years. Meanwhile, being the pragmatist that I am, I love this car, but will be saving for the alpha-platform camaro. Please give the next gen camaro good visibility and a bigger trunk! Just copy the 4 series!

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  20. I love it!! finally got rid of that glass hatch back (sooo 80’s) Not crazy about all the black accents though. Corvette needed to be more modern but not to euro, think they did a good job!

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  21. Jack, if you think the C7 is ugly; then don’t buy one. I am thinking that will be just one more available for all who love the new look and your boycott of the new design will go unnoticed.

    So far the poll show the new design is very popular.

    I like it and my name is not Mikey.

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  22. the C7 is definately in your face. may be a little over exadurated, in real life this car will be hard to resist,and will draw a crowd, the rear lights just grab you to look more, just get rid of the chrome spear in the grill and thats it, i really want one!

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  23. Random thought – every time I look at that back with the new checkered flags logo, I see the pontiac logo.

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  24. Lets be honest here. We all know Chrysler has always “rushed” to put a car out ahead of GM. Quit with the C7 copied the Viper statements please. As soon as Chrysler found out GM was bringing out a new Camaro, they jumped and got a Challenger out first. And please, quit saying this car looks like a GTR. It doesn’t!! Not even the lines. And one more thing, when this car dusts yours, you won’t have time to notice the shape of the taillights.

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  25. Ive just looked at some pics of the new corvette stingray. I gotta tell you it didnt impress me at all. It looks like something someone has customized. The pic I refer to is of the red one w/black rims. If this was sitting in your driveway with the emblems removed, you know some neighbor is going to ask what is it. To the older vette guys, we kinda like the vintage look. Always will..

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  26. Well..I gotta tell ya guys…after anticipating my very first Corvette ever I am devastated by the rear-end of this car. I won’t be buying. You can flame me if you like but it’s not gonna be in my garage.

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  27. I just gotta say this. Whoever doesn’t like the new Corvette Styling, you’re entitled to your own opinion. Chevrolet did try their hardest to design this vehicle in every way possible. There are people that likes it and there are people like you guys don’t. But just keep this in mind. This Corvette is the American born technological performance car that is about to shock the competition.

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  28. Thank you Vic! Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, good or bad. But people just automatically say they hate it without giving any real reasons besides “It copies a Ferrari.” Seriously people, drive the car first please. And if you can’t see that this is a Vette by the shape, then you need to get your eyes checked or just move away to the country of the car manufacturer you think the Vette is copying. The C7 Stingray is a Vette whether your close mindedness will allow you to admit or not.

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  29. I would just say test drive it before you hold your judgement

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  30. If they got rid of theside windows extending past the door windows and redesign the side grill, I might be able to appreciate it… and get rid of that retro stingray hood. If they’re not going to conform with the basic principles of a corvette design, then its stupid to have that hood.

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  31. I wasn’t liking the first renders I seen specially the tail lights.
    They didn’t have to be round but the pictures I had seen didn’t do the car justice at all and as others thought they were reminisant of the Camaro’s but since I do own a 2010 RS/SS There not exactly like the camaro’s there just so much better I wish they were!
    There more like the Afterburner tails on the Concept Camaro than a producion Camaro.

    The back end is reminisant of the Concept Stingray in the Transformers movie.

    Now after I seen the Car outside in the Sunlight at the Barrett-Jackson on TV I was in awe with a Corvette again!
    They finally changed and updated the car enough it doesn’t just look good it looks fantastic!

    I am also glad they got rid of that fishbowl rear window glass!
    It was showing it’s age.
    I love fastback hatches in most cars but the rooflines just didn’t look modern or attractive as other Sports/Musclecars.
    Now it looks as great as a Ferrari 599 and other Exotics.
    I like the added fuctional vents and scoops. But maybe they need to be in Carbon fiber and not painted black. I thought the hood could use a couple more on the sides for heat extractors.

    I’ll never be able to afford one but a diecast model but makes me feel good again of Chevrolet for making a daring change in an iconic car!
    I cannot wait to see these in GT Race Form!
    Now if they could make a “Mini Me” version of this into the Code 130R 2.0 version They won’t be able to keep these on the lot and no one would look at a BRZ Toyoburu!

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  32. @ Tim rosser…you hit the nail on the head on your observation. And those of you that aren’t impressed with the new vette, let me tell you a little story. I have a friend who is a diehard corvette guy. He’s been saving to buy a used corvette for cash and didn’t want to spend more than 40k. He was intent on getting a C5. I told him for that money, he could get himself a C6, he said he didn’t like the styling, particularly the back end. I gave him another perspective of the car and showed him some different angles to change his perception of it ( he thought the back end was too flat). After that, He changed his mind and now he is intent on getting a C6 Z06.

    I’m sure that most of you “old”-er guys that have an aversion to change will come to realize the beauty of this progression of the Corvette as you have in the past. LOL. See you in the showrooms. 😉

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  33. My only issue of the back is the middle part where the corvette emblem sits. It should’ve been left indented like how the tail lights are. The tail lights are ok. They’re starting to grow on me (however I think a hexagonal shape for the lights would’ve been better).

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  34. I was a GM owner for 20 years from my first car (an ’84 S-10) up through a C5 Convertible. I loved everything about the C5, and waited as long as I could to sell it, hoping Chevy would deliver something better than the tacky hackjob that was the C6. Eventually I gave up and for the first time ever, ditched GM and bought an Audi S5 and have not regretted it. I have remained glued to rumor mills about the future of the vette, hoping for something that would bring me back into the fold. This new C7 has the opposite effect; I didn’t think a design could get more childish and dated than the C6, but GM delivered on a riced-out “upgrade” that has removed every vestige of elegance from the Corvette’s classic designs. Oh well.

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  35. and to the commenters who dismiss the negative opinions of this model on an aversion to change – WHAT? What about this car is a change? The problem with the C6 and now this godawful mess is that there is no significant change. I was waiting for something very different, waiting to be impressed as I was by the huge departure from the C4 to the C5. The C7 isn’t change, it’s a bunch of extra creases and scoops added to the already overdone lines of the C6. The C6 is nothing but a C5 with it’s curves made angular and an idiotic big-mouth front grill (Why GM insists on their cars having faces is beyond me, last i checked 5 year olds couldn’t afford cars). Sure, there are square tail lights, who cares. I’m left baffled that after 8 years, this is the best they could come up with? The whole thing looks like a trim package for a C6. This is barely evolution; I was hoping for a revolution. The Transformers Stingray prototype gave me a lot of hope for where the design could go; again – GM did not deliver.

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  36. Okay J, I’m glad you’re enjoying your overrated Volkswagen. I guess I’m the direct opposite of you. My first car was a 1981 Buick Skylark. I then switched over to imports, preferably Suzukis then when BMW revamped the old Minis into the current brand MINI, I jumped on that ship. Then, I read about updated Buicks in an issue of Motor Trend. When the Regal GS came up for availability to order, I jumped on it. Now, I’m a believer in GM. Most people who hate GM now a days are either (a) still sore because of the bailout or (b) just can’t be pleased. Sorry you don’t like the new Vette, but in reality, there is nothing wrong with it.

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    1. Haters gonna hate, Tim. That means there is more for the rest of us! 😉

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      1. You are right VetteGyrl!!

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  37. I’ve got to say I love this new style C7 Stingray. This line on it are spectacular and the red body with black wheels and accents really make it sharp. I’ve had a C3, C4, tow C6’s to include my current ZO6 which I love but I’m truly considering the C7. I’ve got my name on a list already so when the orders go out in June I just be in on the action. I’ve seen all standard equipment and options list already but no price lists till June. I have only one question I can’t seem to get an answer for and that’s on the exhaust. Is it louder than the mild C6 & ZO6 exhaust before you pull the fuze? I like a bold sound exhaust without pulling any fuzes or adding on aftermarket exhausts.. Than the bigger question is what happens when the 8 drops down to the 4 cylinders? Does this make the exhaust sound like a Prius at a stop light? You don’t even know it’s running. That would be the only thing holding me back from purchasing this C7, if it doesn’t sound loud and bold all the time it’s not a true sportscar in my mind. Maybe GMAuthority can and will answer this or maybe anyone else that has an idea. Thanks. Bill

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  38. The new C7 will appeal strongly to the same people that thought the 2002 Pontiac Trans Am was gorgeous. It has an over abundance of junk tacked on it and the side vent is crooked. The rear is hideous. Over all for an American car it is not terrible. But sadly I was expecting a smaller prettier car if anything. A real nice “little red Corvette” would have been a dream. Not some hulking 80s style nightmare with slab Aztek angles everywhere and plasticky vent holes cut into it ending with a cheap Camaro’s rear butt. FAIL.

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    1. @Doctor Fine it seems that you’re communicating your opinion of the design… which is fine — as long as we’re all clear that it is just that — an opinion. Let’s not make any overarching statements about who this car will or will not appeal to, etc., because we simply don’t know.

      That, and every element you dislike on the car, others adore. I happen to be part of that camp.

      And here’s another thing: I will buy the C7 based on design alone; can’t say the same for the C6. That speaks to how much I love the design itself, and I bet there are many others who can say the same.

      In addition, the exterior that you so despise is also very functional. Check this:
      http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/01/2014-chevy-corvette-stringray-c7-exterior-tour-video/

      Overall, I think we should all keep in mind that design is a very subjective beast… some will hate it, and others will love it… Like Diane:
      http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/01/mailbag-diane-never-had-any-interest-in-cars-until-the-2014-corvette-stingray/

      I say that if a design doesn’t move you (either to hate or love it), then it doesn’t actually accomplish anything. This, thankfully, can’t be said of the C7, but is definitely true of the C6: very safe, not offensive, and middle-of-the road.

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      1. @Alex, excellent point on the design “moving” you. I could not agree more. I think the fact that there is such a hot debate on the hate/love of the design speaks to the fact that is it very different than the previous models design.

        I will be buying mine based on just the information provided at the reveal. And all the info GM Authority has provided to us!! 🙂

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  39. Doctor Fine: You want a “little red Vette?” Sounds like you can’t handle a large car with high HP numbers. It also sounds like you might want to go get a Mazda MX5, Subaru BRZ, or a MINI Roadster. Maybe one of those is more of your speed. There is nothing wrong with the styling. Had the new Vette been a smaller car, there would have been people complaining about that. So the concerns is here is, you can’t please everybody, so really, these discussions are null and void. As VetteGyrl stated above, “Haters are gonna hate!”, people are going to complain without ever driving the car and then get their feelings hurt when the said car spanks their arse. And just for you Doctor Fine: The new Vette = WIN!!

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  40. There is little of the C7 Vette styling that is new. The coke bottle shape was done to excess back in the 70s. The squashed roofline is reminiscent of the current claustrophobic Camaro as are the rear tail lights and the butt of the car.

    On the other hand some things sound exciting and improved. The interior. The chassis. The steering. Bravo Chevy.

    But I can’t get over the styling as a big backwards step. I would be all too eager to purchase a C7 but every time I came out my back door and noticed the crooked side vents I would have to score the car a “fail.” Sorry guys.

    As for the teenybopper attacks on my personal character, thanks but again—a “fail.” I have owned lots of “big boy” cars including gassers, a 1965 GTO tri-power, a 1965 XK-E, two 400 Trans Ams, various BMW coupes and convertibles and many of these ran in the 12s without breaking a sweat.

    I frankly find it childish to be attacked for simply having an honest opinion. How typical of the teenybopper generation that instead of offering some thoughtful ideas they get personal and attack the messenger… You should run for Congress…

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  41. I don’t value brute force as an attribute in an automobile, however there are automobiles that have a long pedigree as a sporting type of vehicle. The Corvette is one of those niche vehicles that has had a very long shelf life. Longer than some people will live in chronological years! 60 years is as old as dirt.

    I have to commend GM for keeping the Corvette name alive through thick and thin. The Corvettes that offer the greatest in elegance and beauty are the 1963-67 models. The 1968-82 models had a very alluring appeal to them as well. I never liked the 1984-96 models. They were very constructed of very cheap materials and their styling aged poorly. The C-5 era was a step in a better direction in terms of improved style and engineering, but the C-5’s suffered the same cheap interior materials and early model hiccups. I found the C-6 to be a rather homely design. The bobbed rear end is very annoying to my eyes. Now comes 2014 version of the Corvette, the C-7, and though its a technological wonderland I find the styling quite disruptive. The rear end is way off scope. Just awful. That’s the worst part. The other problem with the new Corvette is way too many body lines that have no rhyme or reason. The interior is another disappointment. The instrument panel reminds me of a 1990’s Toyota Supra. Not a bad thing since Toyota does much of their designs to perfection, but it looks very dated for 2014.

    As odd as the new Corvette is in its clothing all I can say is at least GM didn’t go retro on this one. The whole retro movement in auto designs is so unoriginal and down right banal. The Mustang and Challenger look like clown cars especially in gaudy colors and stripes. That’s one reason why the current Camaro is such an ugly duckling; a morbidly obese ugly duckling.

    If I had 60 or 70 grand at my disposal to plunk down on a new car my choice would be a Tesla. Not for the performance factor, but for Tesla’s sheer innovation and true beauty in auto styling and the all electric power plant is the way of the future.

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  42. i agree 100% with Jack – the new design is absolutely awful & it looks like they put up a picture of a F12 Berlinetta & decided to alter that design a bit to make it into a Corvette. i mean, what happened to the entire design of the classic Stingray? everyone says they see the style of it, but i’m convinced that’s only because Chevy chose to call it a Stingray.. there’s nothing “Stingray” about this car besides a few sloppy attempts to add in some retro design aspects..

    compared to this design, the new C7 Corvette Stingray looks like a heartless, trashy F12 Berlinetta copy..
    http://standardcars.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/chevrolet-corvette-stingray-concept-transformers2009-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-sideswipe-concept-stingray-chzkzc47.jpg

    am i the only one who thinks this thing is ugly? i’m in complete shock here.. it looks like a terrible attempt at a copy of Ferrari’s F12 Berlinetta – the shape of the hood, the rear window, the grill, the outline of the car, everything.. i mean, just look at these two images & tell me the two designs are not eerily similar;

    http://www.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Corvette_C7_Stingray_2014-07.jpg
    http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/525858-3/Ferrari-F12-Berlinetta-07.JPG

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  43. Each new generation of Corvettes has always created renewed enthusiasm and has instilled and deepened the legacy that makes Corvette…and this 7th generation is no exception. Most of you who are hating on the car and are present and past owners are only realizing that your respective models are further obsolete and it makes you look foolish. Each generation is special and unique in it’s own way. They have each had their time in the “Sun” but now it’s time for the new Stingray. If the economic conditions exist, it should be one of the best selling Corvettes ever. It is THE most technologically advanced Corvette to be made and there should be no reason that it shouldn’t be, combined with it’s killer, jaw dropping styling. Way to go GM, It’s definitely a winner.

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    1. Right there with you on that one 🙂

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    2. C7 technology? no shit it’s FAR superior – who’s arguing this?
      C7 looks? 100% subjective.

      don’t tell me i have to like this new C7, because i certainly do not – that’s why i can go buy the used C5 that i MUCH prefer to this C7 generation.

      looks are NOT universal & not always improving as technology is. the new C7 Stingrays look to me like a Nissan GT-R, F12 Berlinetta, & an Aston Martin had an orgy & the C7 Stingray was the cluttered child that resulted..

      the biggest problem was them making the design reflect Ferrari/Nissan to appeal to a younger audience – which i really hope wasn’t a person in their mid 20’s.. what young person can throw down $50k or more on a car? besides,
      MANY young kids already liked the C6 – they just couldn’t afford one at 20 something – not the car’s styling that’s the problem..

      YOU may like it, & others may like it, but that does NOT mean it has to look good in everyone’s eyes. i personally cannot stand the design, & am not alone. the ONLY redeeming quality of the design is the rear lights; updated tastefully IMO. everything else is all too busy, & a blatant rip-off of other cars.

      performance is undeniably better, as technology is always improving, so saying it’s the most technologically advanced Corvette is hardly useful when talking about it’s looks – the Bugatti Veyron is technologically superior to mostly any car on the road, yet there are people who find it ugly.

      i’d MUCH prefer an “obsolete”, 505hp C6 Z06 to ANY XXXhp C7 Stingray, & that is entirely personal choice/preference. saying owners of older Corvettes are being foolish because they don’t like the C7 styling is just foolish in of itself. what if my dream car is a C5 Z06? what if i prefer C3’s? who are you to say im foolish for liking a certain style? that’s just rude & insulting..

      OF COURSE the C7 has better technology, but that means NOTHING to me if the styling is piss poor..

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      1. People keep saying it looks like this car and that car. That seems kind of ridiculous from a design perspective. How in the hell is the design team going to mull over thousands of other designs and say “hey, lets go with this look here and this one there and call it a day”. Unless you have first hand knowledge of the design process, people shouldn’t make the assumption that they did it that way just because it has features that RESEMBLE other features from other cars. I’m sorry you feel that the design is a fail, but It won’t stop those who do love the design. I’ve loved every generation of the Corvette, so why can’t you? That’s why it’s foolish 😉

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        1. “People keep saying it looks like this car and that car. That seems kind of ridiculous from a design perspective. How in the hell is the design team going to mull over thousands of other designs and say “hey, lets go with this look here and this one there and call it a day”.”

          none of the other generations look anything like other cars from their era.. the C2, C3, & C5 especially don’t look like other super cars; & the C6 has a style all it’s own. a design team is supposed to be able to come up with something new, not copy all the others & call it original – because thats their job; designing. haha even the awful-looking C4 looks different than any car from that era – still ugly IMO, but at least not a heartless copy.

          plus, have you even looked at how INSANE the similarities are between this C7 Stingray & the GT-R, F12 Berlinetta, & Vanquish are? all the other generations of Corvette designers managed to create fresh, new models. except for the C7.. the only original, fresh thing to come of this C7 is the taillight design change IMO.

          i’d be okay with the C& being ugly looking to some [like me] if at least it weren’t copying other cars. THAT’s were the problem for me is; the copying. making a design mistake is one thing, but not even trying something new besides taillights is another thing entirely. they had so much potential for something completely fresh, that looked NOTHING like the other super cars, like this;

          http://forums.corvetteforum.com/attachments/c6-corvette-general-discussion/47637046d1239678522-c7-prototype-sideswipe-in-transformers-2-sideswipe_corvette_stingray_concept.jpg

          ^at least THAT would have been a fresh, non-copied idea..

          im not saying the Corvette is a bad car, because it’s not.. what i’m saying is that it’s just been designed badly this time around. i’m looking forward to the C8 design to be as innovative & fresh as most of the older generations were. GM has tricked TONS of people into thinking that this design is fresh & not a copy, so the buyer market will remain steady & the Corvette will live through this awfully designed generation – no worries there.

          say what you will about me being “foolish” for not liking every generation of Corvette, but i’m pretty sure i’d be FAR more foolish if i bought a car that didn’t appeal to me just because of a brand loyalty attitude; performance is great, but it’s not 100% of the equation either..

          you have to love what you drive IMO.

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  44. Is anybody else sick of people saying that the new Vette looks like a GTR or a Ferrari? I know I am. This Vette looks nothing like a GTR…….PERIOD!!! Get off of Nissan’s sack please. The Corvette has more history behind it than a Skyline and to be honest, I don’t think a GTR was on General Motor’s mind when they redesigned the Vette. If you REALLY look at the C7, it still has unmistakable traits of the C6 in it. thats only if you can let your biased eyes actually look. Another thing I find funny is how you skeptics never say anything about the tons of super cars out there that “mimic” each others looks, yet you pull out your torches and pitchforks saying GM copied Ferrari when it comes to the C7. Quit please, you sound like a bunch of fools. If you don’t like GM, you don’t like GM, but don’t criticize their cars just because you have a sore spot, or you’re still pissed about the whole bailout. At this ludicrous rate, you’ll be saying that the new C7 is copying a Hyundai Genesis.

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    1. “Is anybody else sick of people saying that the new Vette looks like a GTR or a Ferrari? I know I am. This Vette looks nothing like a GTR…….PERIOD!!!”

      -that’s great, but it DOES resemble one ; & a few others – pictures don’t lie kid. QQ more.

      “Get off of Nissan’s sack please.”

      -tell that to the C7 designers.. & maybe you should get off Chevy’s sack you hypocrite..

      “The Corvette has more history behind it than a Skyline and to be honest, I don’t think a GTR was on General Motor’s mind when they redesigned the Vette.”

      -haha what does the car’s history have anything to do with the current design? i’m well aware of the Corvette’s long history, thank you, but that changes absolutely nothing about it’s current design being trash [except for the taillights]. haha please stop going on silly tangents that make no point. just look at the pictures of a Nissan GT-R, Ferrari F12 Berlinetta, & Aston Martin Vanquish & you’ll see all the designs for the new C7 Stingray; it’s that simple.

      -you can also look at pictures of classic C2/C3 Stingrays & see absolutely zero design similarities; making the name very confusing to me..

      “If you REALLY look at the C7, it still has unmistakable traits of the C6 in it. thats only if you can let your biased eyes actually look.”

      -my eyes are not “biased”, they show me what is there. in this case, i see a myriad of borrowed ideas mish-moshed into a heartless design that had so much potential. of course i see a C6 underneath the mess – that’s why it’s so heartbreaking to look at this C7.. i see all the wasted potential, & will now appreciate the C5 & C6 generation even more than i already did before the C7 came along & disappointed me.

      “Another thing I find funny is how you skeptics never say anything about the tons of super cars out there that “mimic” each others looks, yet you pull out your torches and pitchforks saying GM copied Ferrari when it comes to the C7. Quit please, you sound like a bunch of fools.”

      -Lamborghini’s only mimic Lamborghinis.. Ferraris only mimic their own cars in production sequences [360 Modena, F430, 458 Italia / F40, F50, Enzo, etc.]. Porsches only look like Porsches.. i have never seen a Pagani, Koenigsegg, Bugatti, Porsche, Ferrari, Supra, GT-R, Ford GT, Viper, Audi, or any other super car that resembles another so much like this C7 does to the GT-R, F12 Berlinetta, & Vanquish.. if you have ANY examples besides the Miura & Ford GT similarity [which was meant to be designed that way out of respect, yet still didn’t copy as badly as the C7 Stingray of today does..] or the Lancer/Evo similarity, please, fill me in fool.

      -i bet you can’t come up with a single example, & are just spewing nonsense in order to defend your hypocritical, biased brand loyalty to GM.

      “If you don’t like GM, you don’t like GM, but don’t criticize their cars just because you have a sore spot, or you’re still pissed about the whole bailout.”

      -biased fanboy hypocrisy finally comes out; keep drinking the GM kool aid man – i hear it’s even better if you drink it with your eyes closed.

      -i happen to choose my cars based on more than the company they come from – i love Corvettes [besides the C4 & C7 generations..], & the C5 Z06 is one of the cars i’m set on buying later because it actually has great design & performance all in one package. this new C7 is all about new improved technology with a lack of design.. no kool aid for me, thanks.

      “At this ludicrous rate, you’ll be saying that the new C7 is copying a Hyundai Genesis.”

      -nice sarcasm. but, no, i won’t be saying that because it’s not true. i will continue to say it looks like a GT-r F12 Berlinetta, & Vanquish, but not a Genesis – there are no design features of one of those in the C7 – i guess i should be thankful of that at least. 🙂

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      1. I don’t see it looking like any of the cars you mentioned. In fact you can take any car and equate it to some design element to another vehicle. You don’t like it, OK, but you’re not going to change people’s minds that do appreciate the design of the new Stingray. You’re perceptions are just as skewed as anyone else’s. To-ma-toe. To- mat-oe. I for one would not be ashamed of owning a C7, much better value than any of the car’s you mentioned and a vastly improved interior as well over the previous generations, save maybe the 1st and second generation for it’s simplicity and beauty.

        “say what you will about me being “foolish” for not liking every generation of Corvette, but i’m pretty sure i’d be FAR more foolish if i bought a car that didn’t appeal to me just because of a brand loyalty attitude; performance is great, but it’s not 100% of the equation either..” I never said that you have to buy the car because it’s a Corvette, people should buy the car because it’s visually appealing as well as it performs and functions and is reliable as to its intended function. I’m very much a GM loyalist but I would also never drive something that would not appeal to at least 95% of my senses.

        Take for example the Camaro. A lot of people don’t like the refresh and myself at first I was a bit put off (because you get used to the first design you fell in love with) but after letting it sink in, I’m really liking the front end refresh. I’m not overly thrilled with the back end though, which would still not keep me from buying the car because of the rest of the car is still great (plus the options for Recaro’s, WOW!)

        You obviously have an in-depth knowledge of different vehicles thus affecting your influences of what you like and dislike, and in this case, It appears that the Corvette team has not met your criteria for a winning design, but like it has been said, it is subjective and maybe the next gen you can be part of the collective that says – “WoW”

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        1. “You obviously have an in-depth knowledge of different vehicles thus affecting your influences of what you like and dislike, and in this case, It appears that the Corvette team has not met your criteria for a winning design, but like it has been said, it is subjective and maybe the next gen you can be part of the collective that says – “WoW””

          -exactly; bring on the C8! 🙂

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  45. I’m not even going to respond to half the drivel you post. You’re obviously a troll. An old grumpy troll at that who at some point probably had a bad experience with GM. And you have the nerve to call me a fan boy. No son, check yourself. In my current fleet I have a 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, a 1996 Geo Tracker, a 2000 Toyota Celica GT, and a 2012 Regal GS. As you can see, or as blindly as you are, maybe not, I have a very diverse selection of automobiles. I choose cars that I like, not based off a brand. I’m not a die hard GM fan. I do however admit when a car is done nicely and done right. My advice to you is to not say anything else to me because obviously you have an inability to see reason because of your arrogance. Not to mention, that whatever you say, everybody should bow down to you because YOU said the C7 looks like a Ferrari, then it’s set in stone. Yes, styling is subjective. Everybody knows this. You can either like the C7 or not, but don’t be a hater. Rant off!! I’m done!!!!!!

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    1. a Jeep Wrangler, Geo Tracker, Celica GT, & Regal GS?
      bwahahaha come on. really? really? & you come at me for MY design choices?

      obvious troll is obvious.
      fail troll is fail.

      go home Tim, you’re drunk.

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      1. Yes Really!! Oh, and I’d rather be drunk than be someone who is close minded and can’t see things for what they are because they are delusional. Seriously, it must suck to be a robot!!

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        1. stop Tim.. it’s just sad..

          your trolling failed – go back to your garbage car collection & QQ some more.

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  46. Actually, I think you’re the one who’s sad. Sad because someone called you out. Do you really think calling my cars garbage affects me? No, because one, while someone of a stuck up, snobbish, close minded personality like yourself may turn up your nose, but at the very least, I have cars. There are some people in the world that would love to have what I have. And me a troll? Please? There’s a bridge somewhere with three billy goats waiting for you to show back up underneath. Internet gangsters today. I guess they come in the grumpy elderly too!

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    1. “Actually, I think you’re the one who’s sad. Sad because someone called you out.”

      -oh.. you’re calling me out? okay then. here’s a list of beautiful vehicles for a garage;

      https://www.facebook.com/notes/joe-yuskaitis/my_future_garage_of_cars/10151658493982033
      https://www.facebook.com/notes/joe-yuskaitis/my_future_garage_of_bikes/10150149181237033

      -im sorry, but you DO own shit cars; absolute garbage machines compared to the vehicles i will own [& already do].

      -BTW, let’s not forget this whole thing started with YOU telling ME to “Get off of Nissan’s sack please”, & called me a “fool”. why? all because i don’t think the C7 Stingray design looks good, & is unoriginal. so before you start making me look like a troll/snob/whatever, go back to the above comments & look at how it was YOU who rudely started trashing ME first.

      -it’s one thing to like it & disagree with me, but another thing entirely to come at me & insult me because i posted my opinion on this page – it’s a thread buddy – people ARE going to post different opinions than you, but that does NOT justify you throwing insults at me when i didn’t say ANYTHING to you first. & you call ME snobby.. smh.. -__-

      “Do you really think calling my cars garbage affects me? No, because one, while someone of a stuck up, snobbish, close minded personality like yourself may turn up your nose, but at the very least, I have cars.”

      -okay? i have vehicles too. so, congratulations on owning some crap – i own better stuff. you say that i have no sense in style & you own a Jeep, a Geo Tracker, Celica GT, & Regal GS.. those are all junk. sorry to tell you this, but those are NOT stylish sport cars, fast performance vehicles, or anything remotely tasteful.

      -i don’t understand how people are honestly thumbing me down when you own that crap.. how can someone who actually pays money for those types of vehicles possibly have any serious ideas of what a truly beautiful car looks like? all you own are economy junk heaps that can barely muster 800hp [collectively], & SEVERELY lack style.. people make no sense to me. smh.. -__-

      “There are some people in the world that would love to have what I have.”

      -sure there are. there are scores of people who would love to have clean water too, & more who’d like to have a clean bed to sleep in at night. i’m well-aware of other people being less fortunate than you or me. again, please stop going on pointless tangents like that.. & there are FAR more people that would want MY choices [above] over yours..

      “And me a troll? Please?”

      -yes.. umm, you were the first to insult me, so you fit the definition of a troll – the instigator of the drama. that’s how trolls operate, BTW.. **facepalm**

      “I guess they come in the grumpy elderly too!”

      -im 23 pal.. im NOT old. how old are you? & yah, i may be grumpy. but, it’s only because of your initial attitude & above comments. YOU seem even more hot-headed & bothered right now, so im not sure why you’re calling me out for the same emotion you’re feeling..

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  47. This thread has hit a new low. Some people just don’t know when to take the higher road…but that comes with time, knowledge and experience. Don’t worry you will all look back and say, “Yeah, I could’ve handled that better” Some of lifes lesson’s are learned the hard way.

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    1. Not really Corvette Admirer. I think others probably were just as sick of hearing about how the C7 looks like a Ferrari or a GT-R. It is what it is.

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      1. then just go do something else.. haha you don’t HAVE to look at the thread & start insulting people you don’t know just because you’re tired of hearing someone else’s opinion..

        who would have thought? opinions on a thread about how a car looks.. :O

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    2. “This thread has hit a new low. Some people just don’t know when to take the higher road…but that comes with time, knowledge and experience. Don’t worry you will all look back and say, “Yeah, I could’ve handled that better” Some of lifes lesson’s are learned the hard way.”

      -notice how when you & i messaged, it wasn’t an immature argument, & only lasted three replies. it’s pretty obvious where the problem was – i can talk to you & other people just fine, it’s when Tim got into the mix it all went downhill.

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      1. Well it does take two to tango(if you haven’t heard that one before) My opinion is that you shouldn’t have taken his “get off Nissan’s sack” so personal, then it wouldn’t have kept escalating. If you would have replied with a lighthearted touch, a joke or quip in jest, you both could have ended up with a mutual respect for each others opinions. That is the goal of what individuals with like minds try to achieve. Trying to communicate one’s thoughts without insulting another persons can be a challenge, but it is achievable.

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        1. haha of course i’ve heard “it takes two to tango” before, & i agree completely.

          “If you would have replied with a lighthearted touch, a joke or quip in jest, you both could have ended up with a mutual respect for each others opinions.”

          -i kinda tried in the end to do that;

          “-nice sarcasm. but, no, i won’t be saying that because it’s not true. i will continue to say it looks like a GT-r F12 Berlinetta, & Vanquish, but not a Genesis – there are no design features of one of those in the C7 – i guess i should be thankful of that at least. :)”

          -but i guess he didn’t take it as me trying to bury the hatchet. :/

          -the only reason i got annoyed so badly with his “get off Nissan’s sack” comment was because im very against brand loyalty, & am immediately offended when people accuse me as such. i enjoy specific cars from all companies, not all cars from one company; so it just hit a nerve, & then the rest of his comment only built onto it from there with the insults & such.

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  48. Ohhhh, you’re 23!! I laughed when I read that. I’m 36 and have owned 19 cars in my life from Austin Minis to BMW sourced MINI Coopers, Morris Minors, and older American cars. So my current cars are garbage? Why, because YOU said so? Don’t make me laugh. I’m glad you have such an illustrious career in the automotive field. I look forward to picking up my next issue of Motor Trend and reading one of your tests!! I don’t have a lot of money. I use my ridiculous government salary for what I can afford that I like. And actually, this started all because your attitude was that the C7 was no good and anybody else who thought otherwise was dumb. Sounds like a troll to me. Later!!!! 🙂

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    1. “Ohhhh, you’re 23!! I laughed when I read that.”

      -why? because you’re the “grumpy elderly” guy you’ve been referring too this whole time?

      -i’m still laughing at your car choices..

      “I’m 36 and have owned 19 cars in my life from Austin Minis to BMW sourced MINI Coopers, Morris Minors, and older American cars. So my current cars are garbage? Why, because YOU said so?”

      -no, your current garage is crap because of the crap that sits inside of it.. maybe you’ve owned cool cars at some point, but at this point you own garbage economy junk; a Jeep, a Celica GT, a Geo Tracker, & a Regal GS are nothing but trash.. none of them are class-leading, none of them are fast, none of them look different or good – they’re all just average shit that is boring & plain. it is what it is.

      “I’m glad you have such an illustrious career in the automotive field. I look forward to picking up my next issue of Motor Trend and reading one of your tests!!”

      -same to you; what issue of Motor Trend did you write/do?

      “I don’t have a lot of money. I use my ridiculous government salary for what I can afford that I like. ”

      -clearly you don’t have a lot of money with the garage you currently listed.. that’s fine. use your salary as you please, but please don’t tell me you have ANY taste in cars if you actually spend money on the cars in your garage.. my god, i understand having one economy car because of a family, but to have FOUR junkers & no worthy vehicles? nothing? come on man.. just call a spade a spade – you have a silly collection of junk.

      “And actually, this started all because your attitude was that the C7 was no good and anybody else who thought otherwise was dumb. Sounds like a troll to me. Later!!!! ”

      -so, i have a different opinion than you & you’re “forced” to start insulting me for it? sounds like a troll to me.

      -makes sense to you i guess – you have to be a little delusional to own the cars you mentioned.. & you also have to be somewhat delusional to make things up. i NEVER said that anyone who didn’t agree with me was dumb, NOR did i express ANY attitude like that; don’t believe me? go back & look at my original comment.

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      1. Why do you keep insulting his cars?

        The Jeep’s a great truck and is definitely class leading. Unless you like the FJ cruiser better.

        The Celica looks pretty good, its not that fast but it is very fun to drive.

        The Regal GS is a decent car, though it kind of lacks an identity

        Yes, the Geo is the only car that is “crap”, i.e : only worth owning out of necessity

        Besides, styling is extremely subjective, not a topic that can really be fought over, since there are few concrete ways to prove a car looks good or bad.

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        1. “Why do you keep insulting his cars?”

          -because they’re not fun/exciting/stylish cars. not a single vehicle he has inspires ANY performance rush, thrill, or excitement [besides taking the Jeep off-loading].

          “The Jeep’s a great truck and is definitely class leading. Unless you like the FJ cruiser better.”

          -no, i prefer trucks that can actually do real work.; Diesel engines have been & are still designed to out-last, out-tow, & out-perform ANY Jeep or SUV that has ever been made. not to mention that trucks have better suspensions & better frames than a Jeep. SUV’s are a dying breed being replaced by Crossovers, & with good reason. if you need to go offloading or do work? get a truck. need to get the kids to school & events? get a Crossover or car. you don’t need a V8 to go grocery shopping..

          -Jeeps are just slow, underpowered, boxes. they are okay off-road, but that’s it. the styling is obviously subjective, but the technology inside is not. Jeeps are one big compromise – not enough performance mixed with not enough economy.

          “The Celica looks pretty good, its not that fast but it is very fun to drive.”

          -haha no they’re not. they’re economy cars with the “sporty” ploy. they accelerate like garbage, look like a Fast & Furious cereal box toy, & are really just economy cars to get people from place to place. they inspire no fun – unless you only enjoy getting from place to place with A/C & radio. anyone who gets a thrill from a Celica would have a heart attack in a performance vehicle [like a Croevtte]..

          “The Regal GS is a decent car, though it kind of lacks an identity”

          -i agree 100%; decent economy car without any thrills. but it’s still not a fun machine..

          “Yes, the Geo is the only car that is “crap”, i.e : only worth owning out of necessity”

          -it’s not the ONLY one that’s crap, but it’s the #1 garbage machine in the collection for sure.

          “Besides, styling is extremely subjective, not a topic that can really be fought over, since there are few concrete ways to prove a car looks good or bad.”

          -exactly; which is why i was confused when he began insulting me for simply speaking my opinion. all i did was state how the car looks to me, what my ideas were on the design choices, & post some pictures of what i thought looked better & what i think the engineers copied. i then left the thread & waited to see if anyone agreed/disagreed. i was NOT planning on starting an argument until he posted his comment about me “getting off Nissan’s sack.

          -check above – i even commented normally with Corvette admirer & no arguments were started there.

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  49. Sorry fellas and ladies as well. I’m done so you all can continue on.

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    1. good; go home Tim.

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  50. Joe and tim, you guys should be married, hollyman, lets get by this.

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  51. Some people seem to forget that high horsepower isn’t everything. A combination of just the right amount of hp and good a good suspension set up can be just as fun. The car I sold to fund the Regal GS was my 2005 MINI Cooper S. It was built up for mountain carving. As far as the Celica is concerned, it’s not a speed demon, but the chassis is firm. The car handles very well, and again, this is where high horsepower is not needed for a “fun drive.” The Regal GS is NOT an economy car and anybody who knows anything about cars and has “actually” spent time in one would know this. As for my Geo, well lets just say after 17 years and serious abuse, the only thing I’ve ever had to do mechanically to it was fix a wheel bearing that the inner race welded itself to the spindle. So, I’m not worried about it being crap, plus while stationed in Florida, it was the perfect beach vehicle. It ha served its purpose and then some. The main reason I brought up my cars is so people can see that I’m not biased for car companies. Some people might like my cars and others may not, but at the end of the day, they’re mine and I’m happy. And even after a year and a half owning it I still have people walking up to me asking about it. And yes, for a four door family hauler, it’s fun to drive. Not to mention that all my cars have personality just from the customizations I have done. i enjoy personalizing my vehicles. Now maybe one day when I win the lottery, I’ll be able to afford something cool, but until then. And again, sorry If I offended anybody.

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    1. “Some people seem to forget that high horsepower isn’t everything.”

      -when did i say that high HP was everything?

      “A combination of just the right amount of hp and good a good suspension set up can be just as fun.”

      -you need a combination of the two in order to have fun. a 1000hp Supra is fine to go speed/race with, but they suck to drive regularly on the street. a Ford GT only has 550hp, but that car is great on & off the track to drive; same as Corvettes & Vipers are because they incorporate many things besides horsepower. the powerband has to be wide enough, & the ride has to be smooth enough to cause any real thrills.

      -HOWEVER, you need a certain amount of power in order for the ride to be fun too, & that is where a Celica & Regal fall apart.. you’re absolutely right when you say you don’t need high horsepower to have fun, but you do need SOME horsepower, & the Celica/ Regal simply do not have enough juice to thrill most people; which is why they are economy cars for normal driving from place to place.

      -the Regal IS a sedan – however “sporty” or “luxury” you want to consider it, it’s still only considered a sedan by Buick themselves, & sedans are designed for day-to-day economy driving [work, school, shopping, etc.], not thrills. not trying to start a fight here, but it’s the truth. im not trying to say you can’t have fun in a Regal – if you do, that’s fine, but it’s not supposed to be thrilling to drive, & hasn’t ever been marketed as anything but a luxury sedan, so please don’t imply that i don’t “know anything about cars”. i’ve never driven a Camry, but i know it’s a sedan..

      -my girlfriend thinks her Accord is a fun car to drive, & takes curves well on the highway, but she also has never stepped into a car that intends to make thrills, so she has no comparison, & has no clue what a real powerband & suspension can feel like. sure, the Accord may seem fun at first, but once you drive a car that has any real performance capabilities, the Accord is reduced to the bland economy car that it is.

      “The main reason I brought up my cars is so people can see that I’m not biased for car companies.”

      -understandable. but, then why did you say that Nissan comment? if you don’t like people thinking you ‘re biased, why did you jump to the conclusion i was?

      -i just don’t care for the C7 Stingray, & was posting my reasons for that; i never said others couldn’t like it, only that i was surprised that they do. you’re allowed to like it, obviously. i posted my comments because i wanted to agree with the guy Jack [who the this article was based on] & see if anyone else thought the same as i did/do.

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  52. Just step away from the keyboard. C’mon, is he really worth that much time and attention? Sheesh, you guys! =)

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    1. wow, thanks.

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  53. do we remember what the original question is ?????

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    1. “This article is part of the GM Authority Mailbag series, where the GM Authority Crew features and replies to your questions, comments, and observations.

      This one comes to us from Jack immediately following the unveiling of the 2014 Corvette Stingray:

      The new Vette – What an ugly car! It may be fast and handle well, but it looks like the previous version on steroids. Pimped out with detracting detailing and unsightly body lines (those horrible body lines up the hood… ugh) that say anything but sleek. And I love Corvettes. I have a 1960, two fuel-injected ’64 convertible’s, two 427 roadsters and a 91-six speed convertible. But I won’t ever desire the new model.

      Jack — you are, of course, more than entitled to your own opinion about any vehicle, including the all-new 2014 Corvette Stingray. Personally, however, I disagree with your assessment — as do most others, judging by our preliminary reactions poll.

      If it matters, here’s my reaction to seeing the C7 Corvette (in photos and in person here in Detroit): it’s anything but “ugly”… rather, it’s beautiful and awesome. I liked (and continue to like) the Corvette C6 and respect it for its capability and value. But I never really felt like I had to have one.

      After seeing the C7, however, I simply must have the new model. For me, this change of heart has everything to do with the looks; heck, even if the C7 utilized the components and technology of the last-gen model, I would still be salivating for the Stingray. That is to say that the design of the C7 is not only appealing to me (the C6 was “appealing”), but it’s gorgeous, sexy, aggressive, and passionate (not to mention functional) — qualities that any Vette should be proud to possess.

      In the end, whether you like the C7 is entirely up to you; but from a marketability standpoint, I expect the Corvette Stingray to attract significantly more people than it will detract.”

      -it’s about your thought[s] o the C7 styling – agreeing or disagreeing with this Jack guy.

      🙂

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  54. The new C7 corvette IS ugly. It looks like the designers took parts from several different performance vehicles, put them together, and came up with something that looks kind of like the Ferrari F12berlinetta but uglier. It’s like someone gave a Ferrari F12berlinetta the Pontiac Aztek treatment. One good thing though – the floor of the C7 isn’t a balsa wood sandwich like the ones in C6 ‘vettes.

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  55. This is all fine but at the end of the day I am really pissed that I can’t buy a new Corvette (which I have plenty of dough to do) because it is so freakin ugly I want to vomit…

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  56. @doctore fine…….if you “really” wanted the vette you would be buying……just for pure driving pleasure……so no you don’t “really” want it……take you 50 some thousand and buy something just a good……..oh wait there isn’t….

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  57. @ Doctor Fine and vixiv – Awwww, sooo sad, Too bad. WAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!! Don’t worry, Chevy won’t be missing your money. LOL.

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  58. GREAT more for us

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  59. I HAVE to buy a new Vette or be left out of the new car “performance market”???

    Ha! I would rather simply buy a new yacht.

    My classic cars are appreciating. And if I get bored I still want to build a Willys “Gasser and take it to the drags for exhibition night and to look cool around town.

    Bye guys. Have fun with your ugly Vette….

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  60. Good riddance!! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

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  61. I was agast when I first saw photos of the new Corvette. I saw one on the road a few days ago, in white, and it’s just as offensive in the raw as it is in the photos. Leave it to the impaired folks at Chevys design studios to put that blight into production. I don’t give a flying f?!) how dynamically superior the new vette is, it’s just so ugly to look at it pisses me off. The American automobile companies have completely lost it in designing attractive automobiles. Except for Tesla.

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  62. The new Vette isn’t picture prefect but it looks so much better than the dreadful, fat Camaro! I can give the folks at Chevy credit for not doing the dang retro thing.

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  63. Yikes… This thing looks like a Caddy XLR dry humping a Mazda RX8. It is absolutely atrocious. GM finally has the balls to do a significant re-design and this POS is what they come up with? Jesus Christ, was Michael Bay somehow involved?

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  64. I think the 2014 Corvette looks attractive, but it also looks hideous. I love the taillamps, but I find the front of the car hideous.

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