April 6, 2012 at 7:11 pm #38228
Would it be feasible for cadillac to make a sports car with the voltec technology. Something bigger than the elr and aimed directly at the i8 from bmw. i’m thinking have it share the platform from the corvette. two door four seater like the camaro/cts-v coupe but having the same wheel base as the c7 corvette. the voltec system would be redone to beat the i8 in performance and still get more all electric range than the 35km (22 mi) of the i8. styling wise i’m thinking elr/xlr with a little bit of cien.
April 6, 2012 at 7:19 pm #39545
Not a bad idea… but it would have to be a $100,000+ car, if brought to market.
And there would have to be a significant amount of re-engineering to bring Voltec to the Corvette platform… especially for the battery.
I’d rather them start with a clean slate for an all-electric/Voltec and not base it on anything, because adapting existing platforms is very difficult and usually results in tons of compromises.
April 6, 2012 at 7:46 pm #39546
that would be really expensive to do though but i guess so would changing the corvette platform and the voltec system. though all of this could be absorbed by a cadillac price so it’s all possible in my mind. thanks for the input alex
April 7, 2012 at 11:38 am #39547
At the momment, not yet. It is possible, but I’d rather see the ELR roll out first before Cadillac starts taking bigger swings.
April 7, 2012 at 11:40 am #39548
And I think it will be able to take those bigger swings, @Grawdaddy — but only as it develops and successfully sells its bread-and-butter models/ranges — ATS, CTS, SRX, and sub-SRX compact crossover… One it has some cash in its pockets from selling the profitable high-volume vehicles, Caddy will be able to do anything!
April 7, 2012 at 1:22 pm #39549
then it will only be a matter of time…… muahahahahaaaa.
sorry i just had to do that. yes but why couldnt they start the development now so that they have it ready for when the world of electric vehicles kicks into highgear. I’d personally like it to come out asap so cadillac can go model to model with bmw though.
April 7, 2012 at 2:20 pm #39550
Personally, I feel full EV is the future of automotive powertrains. At present, we’ve got things like the Leaf and Volt; one is early to the party, and one is great for the intermediate time between ICE and EV.
But full EV is still in its infancy, hence why we have the Prius and the Volt. For EV to become mainstream will require jumps in battery technology as demanded in automotive applications.
Then again, if EV is the future, then it would be wise for Cadillac to jump sooner rather than later. GM has loads invested in Voltec and we have yet to see how well the ATS and 3rd gen CTS will do.
I guess it comes down to money. If GM has the money to develop an Voltec platform successor, they should pursue it. Right now, climbing gas prices will move Volt’s and subsequent ELR’s…..and eventually i8’s.
April 7, 2012 at 2:22 pm #39551
@Grawdaddy Completely agree. The future, as it stands now, is full electric.
But, just as you said, we’ll need some major advances in battery tech as well as infrastructure development/modification for it to make sense on as wide a scale as gasoline.
GM is already developing Voltec 2.0, but it seems to be guarded closer than the President of the United States… I’m sure we all know the reasons 😀
April 7, 2012 at 5:49 pm #39552
First thanks guys for the awesome input. second this by the way wasn’t supposed to be a question (still haven’t gotten a hang of this yet :-/ ). third i agree graw but you forgot the to most important ,financially, cars to cadillac aswell. the srx/escalade/ soon to be xts.if those sell/continue to sell well then they will have enough money to do the research and develpment of all the previously mentioned aspects. then they can beat bmw at there own game and mabey jaguar and porsche while there at it 😀
April 7, 2012 at 6:36 pm #39553
@chevtothemax Exactly. The brand Caddy really needs to beat is BMW. Jaguar, ironically, sells by the handful compared to BMW (and even Cadillac) and Porsche is something GM can worry about later.
Then, aim Buick at Lexus (by increasing content and prices proportionately), and you have yourself a perfect strategy for the luxury market.
PS: I changed the topic from being a question to a regular discussion. There’s an option when starting the discussion to select between the two. No problem 😀
April 7, 2012 at 7:45 pm #39556
yes exactly but if they made the proposed electric sport car good enough it might just be cross shopped with the 918/cx75 as well as the i8 even though those are more of the supercar class. thats all i meant in the comment. yes aim buick at lexus and make it a kill shot.
PS. thanks for changing the question/disscusion thing for me next time i’ll remember to change the setting :)>-
April 9, 2012 at 1:00 pm #39560
So something like an ELR sport, but not an ELR-V?
April 9, 2012 at 3:50 pm #39562
no bigger than an ELR. I’m thinking about corvette maybe camaro in size and performance levels. but an ELR-V would be awesome as well.
August 9, 2012 at 6:12 pm #40449
I still love my cts-v……..198 mph, awsome power. I still get 15 to 16 miles per gal in my sedan. Most people would never guess I have a nascar under my sedan frame:) Just crusing around town…..smiling:)
June 14, 2014 at 5:28 am #61178
I just received an ELR and I must say I absolutely love it. Although it’s a slouch on acceleration, the feel and luxury is certainly there. After just joining and reading the 2 year old comments above, we finally have an i8 and Tesla killer if we truly want it. GM should tune the battery and generator for more power. There is a 2 year supply of ELR’s sitting at dealers. My suggestions to completely turn around sales and EV PR is the following;
1- turbo or supercharge the engine generator
2- swap or tune the batteries with more power
3- combine battery and generator power on full acceleration
Most bloggers and critics cite the ELR as slow and not comparable to Tesla and the powertrain as being close to the Volt for twice the price. Well, my response is simple; offer an advertised special lease price, figure out the 3 suggestions above and fight the i8 and Tesla with all resources of GM as needed. Otherwise, ELR will fail and so will the advancement of EV’s for all. The General should reward its ELR customers and currently has physical cars ready to roll. Let’s do it…
June 14, 2014 at 6:27 am #61184
Oh, 2 more points. The fuel should allow for E85. More power than premium gas and this will result in only 15% fossil fuel. Add this as #4 to my previous suggestion. #5 should be to out-source solar on homes since it can be used in lieu of the grid. Thank you…
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