May 26, 2013 at 12:00 pm #42165
I bought a Hot Wheels Camero and I was sitting at a stop light on a slight incline. When the light changed I tried to go but the car wouldn’t budge. I stalled it and the brakes finally released. I drove straight to the dealer to find out what was going on. When I explained to the service manager what happened and he started to laugh and told me that there is a hill assist built into the car. I have never heard of this and he explained that it helps hold the car on an incline and will release after about 2 or 3 seconds. I have never heard of this and was wondering what MORON would put something like this on a PERFORMANCE car. I have been driving since 1964 and learned how to leave a stop on a hill. That was part of the driver’s test. When I asked how to disengage this piece of electronic JUNK they reserched the electric system and said that they couldn’t find a fuse for it.
How do I bypass this piece of CHEVROLET stupid engineering? If you don’t know how to start up on a hill that go find on and LEARN.
May 31, 2013 at 6:20 am #42373
The Hill Start Assist is designed to release as soon as you depress the accelerator pedal OR 2 to 3 seconds. Your’s is the first complaint I’ve ever heard.
June 1, 2013 at 5:20 am #42415
If this was such a good idea why didn’t Chevrolet put it on ALL their vehicles??????????? I have a 2013 427 Corvette convertible and a 2013 Silverado and they don’t have the Hill Start Assist. Go drive all the other Chevys and then go drive one with the assist and tell me you will know when it comes on. I don’t drive around with a protractor to try and judge the incline of the road so I use the hand brake to get around Chevys great improvement.
June 3, 2013 at 10:00 am #42505
You’ll see a lot more of Hill Start Assist on the 2014’s, including Silverados.
June 3, 2013 at 11:24 am #42510
I’ve driven a Sonic with the hill start assist. I had no problem with it, and I’ve only owned cars with manual transmissions. I also have no problem handling a hill without the assist, although it really is quite handy. I don’t see why you’re complaining so much. If you stalled the car on a hill because the brakes stopped you from rolling back, you might want to practice driving stick a bit more to get the hang of it.
Also, my friend’s 2013 Silverado 2500HD has hill assist, to help with towing on hills.
I think you need to calm down and stop whining that your $45,000 Camaro has technology that prevents you from rolling backwards on a hill. Or go drive your 2013 Corvette, if it really bothers you that much.
June 5, 2013 at 5:11 am #42606
Because you’ve driven a Sonic you are the expert and you know it all. I’ll leave it at that but it still is my $45,000 Camero and if I don’t like the Hill Start Assist and I’ll whine as much as I like. You don’t like it don’t read it. I’ll enjoy both of my CARS while you drive your whatever it is you drive
June 5, 2013 at 10:36 am #42620
Ah shit, I read it anyway. Darn. And by the way, my “car” is only .5 seconds behind your Hot Wheels Camaro to 60 (not spelled Camero, but the way) and .9 seconds behind in the quarter mile, with four less cylinders to boot. Ah yes, I do enjoy my 2008 Cobalt SS very much. But what do I know? I drove a Sonic once and therefore my logic has no place in this argument.
I’m also a little confused why you seem to really hate GM engineering, but keep buying GM vehicles? But again, I drove that Sonic once. I don’t know what I’m talking about.
But in all seriousness, why not just drive your Corvette if it’s that big of a deal? There’s really no reason to drive a lesser sports car if you have a 427 Corvette lying around. But hey, it’s your money.
June 5, 2013 at 5:59 pm #42661
Gentlemen — let’s cool our jets, shall we? We’re all, ultimately, after the same thing here.
To answer @dutch‘s question a bit more: yes, Hill Start Assist is a new technology that first made its GM debut on the Sonic. It is making its way across all of GM’s other vehicles (along with those of other manufacturers), including the Camaro and the 2014 Silverado — as @CraigInIndy mentioned. However, I don’t think the 2014 Corvette will have it.
To me, the way the technology works is pretty cool. Here’s some more details about it:
With that said, I completely understand the concern you’re expressing, as I’ve stalled a Camaro with Hill Hold Assist once before. That was my first coming into contact with the technology, and it’s rather annoying (at first) — especially for someone who has grown up driving cars with manual transmissions, and has learned to manually mitigate starting up on an incline. Either way, it would be nice if Chevy offered a way to disable the feature altogether — especially on a performance car like the Camaro.
That said, I do have a question. To my knowledge, Hill Start Assist is activated by automatically applying the brakes for a couple of seconds when these conditions exist:
1. The brake is depressed
2. The clutch is in and a gear is selected
3. The vehicle is facing an incline steep enough
My question is this: when the driver applies the throttle, do the brakes automatically release, or do they hold on for the full 2 seconds to complete the “cycle”? Would be nice to know. It
June 5, 2013 at 8:19 pm #42683
Alex, thank you, you’ve asked all my questions and concerns better than I did but you forgot one in your conditions and that is that the Hill Assist also works on the downhill.
to LPG975 I never said that I hated Chevy Engineering. I just wondered why they would put something like Hill Assist on a performence car like the Camaro.
I had a Cobalt SS when they first came out and got rid of it 2 months after I bought it because I did not like the torque in the front wheel drive. I will never own a front wheel drive car. My Corvette is 1 of 11 Super Sonic Blue 427 Convertibles, and is a one year only car so it only goes out on sunny days. The Camaro is my fun car and my Silverado is my daily driver.
June 6, 2013 at 11:54 am #42695
The front wheel drive problem is understandable, I’m a fan of rear wheel drive myself. But it was the fastest, sportiest car I could afford when I bought it and it’s a hell of a lot of fun to drive. The 2008 is much different than the first supercharged models though, which is what it sounds like you had. Torque steer is much easier to deal with from 2008-2010 (I have driven my friends 2006 Cobalt SS – pretty “meh” in my opinion).
You didn’t mention that the Corvette was a collector’s item, so that’s more understandable. And I do agree that there should be a way to disable the hill start assist. But you did call it a “piece of CHEVROLET stupid engineering,” which is where I got confused and, admittedly, slightly offended.
By the way, Hill Start Assist is deactivated whenever the red BRAKE warning light is lit. So, just lift the E-brake a bit at a stop and it will not engage.
June 7, 2013 at 9:40 am #42712
Alex, The brakes should release when the accelerator is depressed.
At some point I read that Hill Start Assist is technically part of the Stabiltrak stability control system.
The next part of my post is speculative and I have NOT verified if this is true, however it seems possible that you might be able to disable HSA by turning off the Stabilitrak.
It’s too flat in the Indy area for me to test that today. Perhaps Dutch can try and report back?
June 7, 2013 at 7:53 pm #42743
@dutch I didn’t know that Hill Start Assist was also activated when the car is facing downhill. That’s interesting — and even more reason for any manufacturer (GM and Chevy included) to offer the ability to turn it off.
I do wonder, though, if @CraigInIndy‘s suggestion of turning off StabiliTrack would also disable HSA… could you try it?
June 8, 2013 at 10:34 am #42759
It finally quit raining and had to go to the chevy dealer,so I tried what was suggested and realized that I always turn off the traction control and the stabiltrak when I get in the car unless it is raining. I used it for about 3 weeks as a daily driver and found that I didn’t like that idea so I bought the Silverado.
Anyway it doesn’t change anything.
I ran into the owner of the dealership and told him my questions and he took me to a mechanic who had a gen 1 Camaro and did alot of computer work. He had heard of the Hill assist when he was sent to an orentation class on the new cars and he said they skimmed over it but didn’t explain it to much. He was going to call the G M mechanic help line to see if there was a way to disable the system. That won’t happen til Monday so I’ll just have to wait and see. Let you know what I find out
June 8, 2013 at 11:53 am #42764
Be aware that just pushing the button only turns off the traction control, you have to push and hold the button for 3-4 seconds to turn off Stabilitrak.
June 8, 2013 at 6:47 pm #42770
I’ll have to try that on another day. Tomorrow I’m going to a car show in Perryville Maryland at the Veterans Hospital. I’m going in the Vette. No trophys just a nice day with my fellow VETS. Lots of nice cars too.
June 10, 2013 at 3:08 pm #42832
I just traded my 2011 silverado for a 2013 silvrado. The hill assist works to good once you set it off the only way I can get to stop comming on even on flat ground is to come to a stop, put the gear shift lever into park then put it back into drive. The other thing you never know how long it going to hold you before it releases. Sometimes 2 seconds sometimes 5 or more seconds. This is real fun when you go to put the truck in the garage it will hold you then release you into the garage. You cant just idle into the garage you need to give it throttle so you can move if you dont give it throttle the hill assist just stays on. I would like to have a way that I can turn it off or it only comes on in the tow haul mode. Someone should think this one over if driveway is on a incline the hill assist will come on then need drive though it to get your car – truck into the garage. I dont want garage remodeled by GM but if they want to … OK with me.
June 11, 2013 at 5:28 pm #42916
June 12, 2013 at 9:18 am #42939
I’ll give that a try. Theres a switch on the dash to turn off traction control and the same switch will turn off the stabilitrac. My wife will not drive the new truck. I’m taking it to the dealer and if hill assist can’t be turn off I want my 2011 back. The hill assist is so unpredicable. I never know when its going to come on, the next stop light even on flat ground. Once engauged I never know how long it going to hold me before it releases. To dangerous pulling into the garage. Were I live it snows I can’t see trying pull into garage with the drive way snow covered and have the hill assist come and then release me into the garage.
August 16, 2013 at 6:39 pm #45869
HSA is garbage. I have to time the light so I’ll be ready when the HSA turns off.I can usually count to 3 before it releases. I just bought a 2013 Camaro but I think once I run up the mileage, I won’t buy another Chevy. You put HSA on a sports car, quite often driven by people who have driven manual transmissions for years. It’s a shame that you care so little about your customer base that you would put technology on this car that is obviously not calibrated properly. I have to ride the clutch and feather the gas waiting for it to release and prevent the rollback it’s actually suppose to prevent.
I’ve read other car forums that have HSA but apparently know how to calibrate it for a positive driving experience. I’m still waiting for the list of rollback accidents that have occurred in the past few years that precipitated this less than functional addition.
Too bad you put so much time and effort into this. Would have been nice if that time had been spent on upholstery as my 2 month old car has a split seam on the seat back.
August 19, 2013 at 7:44 am #45937
I have a 2013 Camaro RS with this stupid feature as well. I’ve brought it back to the dealer twice and they say it’s because of the larger wheels and higher geared transmission. I say that’s crap. We tried another Camaro without the RS upgrades and that one worked perfect. The difference was in the travel of the clutch pedal, mine a short push the other 2 to 3 inches more. The service manager even drove mine and stalled it twice and said there was a noticeable difference in both cars. Hey Indy, take a look at Camaro5.com if you haven’t heard of any complaints. I told the dealer that when the clutch is burnt out just as I go over the warranty period they will cover it. It’s embarrassing to drive this car and have it sit on hill with the engine at 2000 rpms and not moving. The only way to disengage it is to pop the emergency brake up 1 click. Chevy needs to allow the driver to disengage this stupid feature. If it worked right I would have a problem.
October 9, 2013 at 9:26 pm #48076
@camper1 The HSA should release a second or so after you engage the clutch and apply the throttle… I grew up driving cars with manual transmissions without HSA and am quick enough to get off the brake and onto the gas without rolling back much, if at all, but when I drove the 2014 Camaro with HSA recently, I found it quite useful — and not at all calibrated poorly. In fact, as soon as I got on the clutch and then on the gas to get going, the brakes released right away.
But if you don’t like it, why not disable it by turning off Traction/Stability control as outlined before?
October 9, 2013 at 9:36 pm #48078
October 22, 2013 at 12:30 pm #48503
why would it be on a silverado as they do not build stick shift pickup trucks
October 25, 2013 at 3:07 pm #48653
@motormam HSA isn’t necessarily limited to vehicles equipped with manual transmissions. It’s useful with automatics as well. On trucks, they’re useful on starting on an incline when hauling/towing as it doesn’t put as much strain on the powertrain and prevents roll-back.
November 20, 2013 at 8:15 am #49658
Guys, there is a DIY solution to the horrible HSA problem, since GM has failed to address it. At least for the Camaro guys. Surely this can translate over to other models…
January 6, 2014 at 4:30 pm #51549
Jeesus Christ what’s up with you guys not liking hsa? Not able to do burn out or what??? But then again I wonder if mustang or challenger do have hsa….
December 1, 2014 at 7:16 am #78524
I have a 2013 Camaro. In my opinion, the hill assist is defective in that the delay after releasing the brake is too long. Depressing the accelerator DOES NOT release the hill assist. I have to stop at a hill almost every morning during the week. I watch the other cars accelerate away from my performance car as I wait the obligatory 2 seconds for the crap bag engineering assistance to turn off. I estimate I prevent at least 2 cars from getting through the light. I will not massage the manual brake to overcome crappy engineering. I continuously stalled the car for the first few months until I got used to the Chevrolet Engineering Delay in my day.
I will never own another Chevrolet with this feature that does not offer the ability to turn it off. I have been driving using a clutch for over 40 years. I do not need assistance. And when I say I will never own another Chevrolet with this feature, I mean NEVER.
I have also disabled the 1st to 4th feature which is another bit of crap bag engineering.
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