May 31, 2016 at 5:53 pm #129612
Hey guys, new to the GM forums. Currently a Ford fanatic, enthused by the new 2016 Camaro 2.0L Turbo. Currently searching for a Blue Camaro 2.0L Turbo. Base price around $25,000 to $30,000.
As far as my 2016 Ecoboost Mustang, it is currently set to 500rwhp @ 20psi. If I tighten up the watsegate I can get it to 24-30psi. For the record 20psi on a 2016 ecoboost Mustang is good for 142mph. Which I have seen more than 5 times at 20psi.
I heard that the Camaro 2.0l turbo is good for 24psi from the factory. If you tighten up the wastegate you can achieve 30psi for sure. Chevy cant fool me though. I know for a fact that the 275hp number is for marketing purposes. The 2.0L Turbo must have no less than 500rwhp from the factory. Ford says that the 2016 is rated at 310hp. This is a clever trick. Cause promising 310hp and delivering 500rwhp is genius! Chevy had to pickup on this. The new Camaro 2.0L Turbo is a brute! I have yet to drive the new 2.0L T, but am sure @ 3000rpm is where all the fun begins. In the 2016 mustang, not the 2015, but the 16 the turbo starts its spool @ 1400rpms, and runs all the way to 6500rpm without any lagtime. The 2016 ecoboost mustang uses a Honey/Garrett T04z turbo, which is good for 800rwhp. So no need to ever upgrade the turbo, like the 2015 ecoboost owners must do. The 2016 ecoboost mustang uses an aluminum block with fat forged rods and main caps, along with a beefier crank fro the factory. 2016 mustang ecoboost owners are very lucky. No need to pull the motor and replace all the factory shortblock accessories.
The 2016 Camaro I am sure is on the same level as the 16 ecoboost stang. I have seen 142-145mph @20psi more than 5 times, and the car purrs like a kitten. I be right back!
May 31, 2016 at 7:22 pm #129617
Ok I am back. Need to find more reviews of the new 2016 Camaro 2.0L Turbo. Searching the internet like a mofo for 2016 Camaro 2.0L Turbo! Randy Probst and Carlos Logo are you out there? Need u to do an ignition head 2 head on the 2016 Ecoboost mustang and a 2016 Camaro 2.0L Turbo…
Not to worry Camaro enthusiast, starting the turbo spool at 3000rpm is not bad. 1400rpm is much better from a dig but as long as u are aware of this u can race accordingly. Just mash the gas pedal to the floor on a dig and let the drag radials do their job. U understand what I mean? At the track a 2016 ecoboost does not need to rev the engine from the start, just punch it when the light turns green, and the Honeywell/Garrett T04z will spool no less than 10psi from 1400rpm to 6500rpm in first gear. Cant make 20psi in first gear though. Only in 2nd gear can you get to 20psi. To combat this, do a short shift from 1st to 2nd and achieve 10psibefore 2000rpms. Check out my videos on youtube on how to do this.
As far as the camaro goes I am sure Chevorlet will shut down production to introduce a smaller exhaust side inducer, to lower the powercurve on the factory turbos. Chevorlet installed a turbo which has a large exhaust inducer which will allow the 2.0L Turbo engine to make max horsepower at the 7000rpm range. Over time, the current batch 2.0L turbos may see a shortlife span depending the the driving habits of the owner. Sure the car will produce alot of HP at the top end., but you have to consider the curve on a dyno chart. The ecoboost mustangs start off at 1000rpms and makes 10psi on a 1st to 2nd short shift which will produce 20psi in 2nd gear for the ecoboost. The Camaro 2.0L turbo must use drag radial tires to get the power to the ground at 3000rpm. There is alot of torque at 3000rpm and the transmission gearing will keep u above 3000rpm on each shift . So not to worry. Just make sure you have some drag radials at the track to keep up with the 2016 ecoboost mustangs. As far as the 2015 ecoboost owners, you must bow down to the 2.0L Turbo camaro, cause chevorlet made the new camaro turbo to compete with the 2016 mustang, and totally kill a stock 2015 ecoboost mustang.
2015 ecoboost mustang owners must do upgrades to keep up with the new 2.0L turbo camaro. Where as a 2016 ecoboost mustang owner can compete head to head with a 2016 Camaro turbo counterpart. It is very important to note that the camaro spooling at 3000rpm is not a big deal as long as you have a HEALTHY set of drag radial tires to handle the torque produced by camaro at 3000rpm..
For the record the 2016 Ecoboost mustang is a monster. Seriously, it is a mofo monster. I raced a 500hp z06 from a 50mph roll and killed it at 120mph, I pulled hard on him to 130mph. He gave me a thumbs up.. I thanked in kind for the race. So be aware Corvette owners, an inline 4 or inline 6 corvette is on its way. As soon as Chevy sells no less than 100,000 2.0L turbos Camaros, I am positive they have an inline 4 or 6 for the corvette line up. If they are smart, they will pay attention to this blog and start production ASAP!
May 31, 2016 at 9:40 pm #129618
Just want to emphasize something about the 2.0L Turbo’s hotside inducer. After further thought on the 3000rpm spooling characteristic I find it quite a stroke of genius for Chevorlet to offer a different spooling option for the 2.0L Turbo as opposed to the Ford way. The Ford way being that the 16 ecoboost can build boost from 1400rpm and the eco-turbo Camaro starts off at 3000rpm. For the Camaro this means you will be set at 3000rpm with that massive torque curve you will see on a dyno graph. This is going to be a big deal cause this means the camaro will do real good after the 1/8th mile. This could possibly mean it can run down an ecoboost mustang after the 1/8th mile and pour it on all the way to the traps. If 2.0L eco-turbo owners tighten up that wastegate spring they could achieve 25-30psi easily. Stock the 2.0l camaro is set to 24psi. With a tightened wastegate it could achieve 6 more psi of boot. 1psi of boost is worth 20rwhp. This means with an extra 6psi of boost 20×6=120rwhp! Add 120 to 500rwhp and u get 620rwhp factory stock!!!!!
That’s insane! All u need is a vice grip to tight the wastegate. So looking at it from this perspective, Chevorlet is not going to have any problems selling this 2.0L Camaro.. In fact, both Ford and Chevorlet have both done their homework on both platforms!! They should both feel proud of their accomplishments, in introducing both cars. If u buy either one, never sell it. This batch of 2016 cars will be remembered as all time favorites like the SVO and Grand National sports cars!
Just for the record, of course you can tell that I am not biased in any way. I will own both cars and have no need to root for one side or the other. Its a breath of fresh air owning both cars! Also, I doubt very seriously I will ever get smoked in the quarter mile by being run down after the 1/8th by a new 2.0L turbo with 24psi.. I am worried about the camaro which is producing 30psi after the 1/8th mile, cause 620rwhp will be nasty in a 2.0L camaro which runs down an ecoboost mustang before the traps!
All this means is 2016 Mustang ecoboost owners and 2.0L camaro owners need to keep a pair of vice grips handy just in case!
June 1, 2016 at 1:11 pm #129699
Sure miss the 1984-86 mustang SVO. If u search Youtube for the SVO, u will find a few 900HP 2.3L SVO’s running 9’s.The new 2.3L Turbo motor is far more advanced than the 84-86 SVO inline 4. With direct port injection and all. The new 2.3L turbo can handle up to 45psi of boost. Much like an EVO from Mitsubishi. 45psi will sit a 16 Ecoboost owner right at 900hp-1000rwhp. 25psix20rwhp=500rwhp. Add this to 500rwhp and u have 1000rwhp for a 2016 Ecoboost mustang. Going to need a boost controller to add that extra 25psi. This is also the case for a 2.0L Turbo Camaro. Here is the link for the beautiful Mustang SVO!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXQqF5QrcG8
Read more at: http://www.modularfords.com/threads/246497-2016-Mustang-Ecoboost-owner-looks-into-buying-a-2016-2-0L-Turbo-Camaro!?p=2187329#post2187329
June 1, 2016 at 1:55 pm #129705
Ok guys found a few interesting clips for the Ecoboost and Camaro Turbp owners.
One clip shows a 9 sec SVO, then the next clip shows a 900HP ecoboost at SEMA!!
Here is a clip of the SVO at 900rwhp.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUFMBNmjiuo Here is a clip which discusses a new ecoboost stang at 900hp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt_I9S9vasw For those who are still on the fence, these two clips should ease your mind!
Read more at: http://www.modularfords.com/threads/246497-2016-Mustang-Ecoboost-owner-looks-into-buying-a-2016-2-0L-Turbo-Camaro!?p=2187353#post2187353
June 1, 2016 at 4:53 pm #129714
June 3, 2016 at 1:58 pm #129984
June 5, 2016 at 10:46 am #130029
Update! Ok guys I found a dealership which has 2 camaro 2.0l turbos. They don’t have my color preference, so they are currently looking for a blue or black manual 6spd with cloth interior. I don’t like leather.
I have been pre approved based on my credit, so now it is just a waiting game. I really like the blue 2.0L turbo, I can wait for the dealership to find a blue one.
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