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Community Question: Buick Verano Turbo Or Base Cadillac ATS?

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  • by Manoli Katakis
  • — Aug 8, 2012
Cadillac ATS vs. the World - Patagonia

With exactly $4,000 separating the base Cadillac ATS and upcoming Buick Verano Turbo, the question of which one you prefer is perfectly appropriate.

As the UFC’s Mike Goldberg states before every fight, here’s our tale of the tape:

  • 2013 Cadillac ATS 2.5: compact sedan, rear-wheel-drive, 202 horsepower, $33,990.
  • 2013 Buick Verano Turbo: compact sedan, front-wheel-drive, 250 horsepower, $29,990.
Despite the Buick being FWD, it does feature a significant power advantage over the more expensive Cadillac. Additionally, only the Buick offers a manual transmission at this level. There’s also distinctively different brand images to factor in here, if you indeed care about the badge on your key fob. Where the Buick Verano Turbo comes across as being a mild sleeper car while managing to continue a laid-back persona, the ATS portrays itself to be the latest exciting performance sedan on the marketplace, as evident from the launch marketing campaign.

With all things considered, which one would you rather have? Participate in the poll and elaborate in the comments below!

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46 Comments

  1. Daniel Hana says:
    August 8, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    It’s always good to have a choice

    Reply
  2. Ricardo Reyes says:
    August 8, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    If money wasn’t an option, i’d opt for a CTS-V Sportwagon, but since it is, i can’t afford the Buick, must less the Cadillac. lol

    But if i must give an answer and only 4k is separating the two, i still would choose the Buick. Sorry, i don’t like any base models, no matter the brand.

    Reply
  3. Kyree S. Williams says:
    August 8, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    As the last person said, I don’t like base models. I’d much rather have a Buick or Chevrolet that’s loaded to the gills than pay more to suffer from a premium brand’s “bargain-basement” model.

    Besides, I’m not a RWD junkie and the Verano seems to be quite an agreeable vehicle, even in non-turbo guise.

    Reply
  4. Danny says:
    August 8, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    Verano, of course………love the ATS’s style and swagger but unless Cadillac has a suoper sale, not now

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  5. ERIC says:
    August 8, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Verano……it seems to be a Cadillac in disguise….so much more standard….rear camera, fogs, intillilink, folding rear seats, pretty and luxurious interior……etc, etc…..even that 2.5 should do a great job

    Reply
  6. Main Wayne says:
    August 8, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    ATS. Cadillac taste with a Chevy budget.

    Reply
  7. Hunter says:
    August 8, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Verano. I would only say the ATS 2.5 if it was as fully loaded as can be

    Reply
  8. Babersher says:
    August 8, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    Verano hands down, I feel the same way as others, i hate base models, and 4k is still alot of difference.

    Reply
    • Danny says:
      August 9, 2012 at 3:47 pm

      Verano and ATS have a lot of family characteristics…RWD and FWD seems to be biggest difference as they will both have 2.5 ecotecs eventually….both elegant, etc……..just the big $$$$ dfference…cannot wait to see/drive a new ATS!

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      • Babersher says:
        August 9, 2012 at 9:13 pm

        Of course, if money wasnt an issue, it would be ats without blinking, even though the Ats would drive better, I bet the verano is faster and more comfortable, both great cars, but 4k difference and “base” just knocks the ats out of cotention.

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    • Dan says:
      August 15, 2012 at 8:22 am

      Great leases available on Verano lately….year-end clearance before the new ones come in I guess…..I don’t think dealers have many left

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    • Danny says:
      September 2, 2012 at 1:40 pm

      Babersher….along with the $4k difference, ATS still does not have fogs, remote start, rear-folding sets, etc., etc…..it should really offer more than BMW and people would be much happier to look/drive one.

      Reply
  9. wtfwtf says:
    August 8, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Front wheel drive is garbage. Rwd has more advantages and better traction in 99% of the driving environment in Philly area so its the way to go. cold air intake and exhaust might squeeze 20 more horsepower from the 2.5… if I’m spending 30k+ RWD or AWD are the only options in my view .

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  10. Daniel Hana says:
    August 8, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    I don’t know how you can compare a Front Wheel Drive car to a Rear Wheel Drive car they have different driving dynamics. It’s like comparing a Audi to a Cadillac :-) lol

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  11. randall mullan says:
    August 9, 2012 at 3:31 am

    I am with you on this Daniel, very different dynamics. If you have ever lived with both will you really understand them, each have their own unique attractions… I have both rear and front wheel drives in my garage and enjoy each for different reasons.

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  12. Tim rosser says:
    August 9, 2012 at 8:32 am

    I really hate when people try to belittle FWD cars, when they have totally different driving dynamics. It’s kind of how Motor Trend put the Regal GS in 8th place during their comparison. Their reasoning, even though the GS actually performed quite well, was because “it didn’t feel right!” Really people, if you actually can’t drive a FWD car, don’t knock them. In my spare time I live canyon carving. I take my car to Deals Gap, NC at least once a year, and I’ll tell you, FWD or AWD is where it’s at. FWD cars are excellent handlers. I will be the first to admit, FWD cars have their faults and flaws. Trying to launch my GS can be a chore. Understeer can be problematic, however; I’ll take under steer over oversteer ANY day. There is nothing remotely wrong with a FWD car. I’d probably take the Verano Turbo because I want the amenities that come with it versus the bare bones ATS.

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    • wtfwtf says:
      August 9, 2012 at 8:53 am

      The solution here would be to make the Buick RWD. FWD was spread like a cancer for the sole purpose of cost savings. If you are smart, RWD / AWD are the only options for the 30k+ price range. Drive the bare bones ATS and the Buick and then tell us how you feel, even so…

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      • Main Wayne says:
        August 9, 2012 at 11:25 am

        FWD is for CAFE. RWD is for cost savings. AWD is for higher profit margin.

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    • chevtothemax says:
      August 9, 2012 at 6:19 pm

      “I’ll take under steer over oversteer ANY day” this opinion differs from mine as i would rather end up sideways on a canyon road then going straight off the edge. I would personally choose the ATS because a caddy, regardless of trim, will always beat a buick for me. i however am not against fwd i am a huge fan of hot hatches.

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      • Tim rosser says:
        August 9, 2012 at 7:43 pm

        My Cooper S was the most forgiving car when it came to understeer. All you had to do was lift off the throttle and then punch it again. Either way, understeering or oversteering too much can send you over the embankment as I have seen numerous times on Hwy 129. And yes, I’m a fan of hot hatches myself. It’s why I’ve owned two MINI Coopers and plan on getting another one in the future. By far, the best FWD car I’ve ever driven, not counting the classic Minis I’ve owned.

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  13. LDM says:
    August 9, 2012 at 8:50 am

    You’ll have to solve this puzzle with dollar votes. After a year on the market you’ll have a better understanding of what is prefferred.

    Reply
  14. Tim rosser says:
    August 9, 2012 at 10:56 am

    I can tell you how I feel without driving either. After coming from a 10 year stint of owning classic Minis and the BMW sourced MINIs, I know first hand how to drive a FWD car. I like the way FWD cars handle. You make a mistake with a RWD in a mountain curve, you’re done. FWD is very forgiving. No, I like my FWD cars and I absolutely love my GS!!!

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  15. wtfwtf says:
    August 9, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Tim, first off, you are totally clueless about rwd if you think “you’re done” if you make a mistake in a rwd car. A better balanced car is safer and more maneuverable than a nose heavy understeer wheel barrel . Secondly, ALL CARS TODAY HAVE STABILITY AND TRACTION CONTROL. You won’t be able to spin out pretty much anything these days, regardless of drivetrain layout .

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    • Tim rosser says:
      August 9, 2012 at 1:31 pm

      Clueless? Sounds like YOU’VE never driven a FWD car. It sis much easier in my opinion to correct a nose slide, than if you were to oversteer a high HP, RWD car. Traction control you say. How many people leave that on when they’re out playing? Did you see that Corvette fail compilation posted on GM Authority a couple of weeks ago? I rest my case.

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  16. wtfwtf says:
    August 9, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Tim, the only car I own right now is a 09 Malibu. It IS front wheel drive. I have owned plenty of RWD cars in the past and plan on switching back in the future. If you stick 500 horsepower in a front wheel drive car, tell me how much easier it is to control than a RWD Corvette, and yeah, you can turn traction control off when you try that one too. I’ve seen quite a few d-bags in turbo/sprayed FWD civics crab walk their cars right into the wall / guardrail plenty of times. So no, your case is not rested. You obviously never have driven a RWD car before.

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  17. Tim rosser says:
    August 9, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    I’ve driven lots of RWD cars. The numerous cars my dad owned to include a ’75 Vega and ’67 Skylark and one of my favorite past cars I’ve owned, was a 1980 Morris Ital wagon. Currently, along with my GS, I own a 1996 Suzuki Sidekick. Yes, it’s RWD and it’s fun to drive. That’s why I’ve kept it for 16 years. I can honestly say my Regal GS hugs the road very well. It’s not a rail rider like my old Cooper S was, but grips the road nonetheless.

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  18. wtfwtf says:
    August 9, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    Without a doubt the Regal is a beautiful well engineered car. But how much more beautiful the ATS is underneath is what counts to me. If the Regal was built on the Alpha platform, it would be better, hands down. You can’t compare a 60′s, 70′s, or 80′s RWD car to a modern FWD car. Compare a 3 series to a Regal. That’s more like it.

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  19. Tim rosser says:
    August 9, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    No, I was merely mentioning those cars as examples that I do in fact have experience with RWD cars. Now, I agree, the ATS is a well engineered car. If they could share some of their diet secrets with Buick, the GS could be an even better car. For the life of me, I still can’t figure out why the GS weighs 3700 pounds. If I had the money, the turbo version of the ATS would be mine. I can barely afford this GS now, and I’d hate to see what the sport version of the ATS will run.

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  20. Rj says:
    August 9, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    A 2.5L 202hp Verano would be my number one choice.

    Reply
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